I have web and walk unlimited internet with T-Mobile which is about as fast or a bit slower than 56K. It's great though for when I'm out and about.
At home today, I connected it to my pc and activesync fired up. It showed me that I now have a new local area connection 3 specifically for the mda, as well as my local area connection 6 for my broadband. All of a sudden, my mda is as fast as my broadband connection! It loads up pages and threads as fast as my home pc does, which is on a 2MB connection. Fantastic. I didn't realise this would happen so that's pretty cool.
What you say is right but if you're sitting in front of your PC with you're MDA attached to it with around 1m or so of cable why bother using the MDA?
i would do it over bluetooth or better yet wifi
then one dont have to operate the pda right in front of the pc
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What you say is right but if you're sitting in front of your PC with you're MDA attached to it with around 1m or so of cable why bother using the MDA?
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Because I can use my MDA for surfing and stuff while my pc is occupied with say, gaming.
Rudegar said:
i would do it over bluetooth or better yet wifi
then one dont have to operate the pda right in front of the pc
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But my MDA doesn't have wifi, only the xda orbit has that, no?
I'm not sure I can bluetooth, I don't think my pc has it.
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But my MDA doesn't have wifi, only the xda orbit has that, no?
I'm not sure I can bluetooth, I don't think my pc has it.
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every Artemis has Wi-Fi apart from bloody T-Mobile MDACIIIs... T-Mobile removed the hardware so that you had to pay for Web'n'Walk seemed to work lol
Web and Walk works for me, what do i need WiFi for? Everywhere where there is a usable WiFi Connection i most propably have a notebook or a computer with me ^^
I have the Artemis HTC version and T-Mobile version, I have to say that I have only switched the WiFi on a couple of times in the last 14 months on the P3300, I just use the Web-n-Walk, since getting the Ameo most of my mobile internet use has switched to that device (its noticably faster) - roll on the Touch Cruse (Polaris) as that will be a true step in the right direction - Mike
I have a T-Mobile MDA Compact III and decided to get Onspeed
I pay £7.50pm for the Web 'n' Walk and a smidge over £2pm (£25 pa) for the Onspeed. The end result is effectively unlimited downloads at broadband speed on my MDA for a tenner per month. You can't get streaming downloads but I only ever use it for surfing anyway so that is no great loss.
You'd need to be in a wi-fi hotspot to get that (if the MDA had it) but I can surf wherever there is a phone signal. Including on the train and Tube on the overground section of my commute
You know it makes sense
Save yourself the £25 per year and drop the onspeed, it will not be doing anything at all for a mobile phone GPRS based internet connection, the speed is governed by the network provider and the hardware you are using - Mike
mikealder said:
Save yourself the £25 per year and drop the onspeed, it will not be doing anything at all for a mobile phone GPRS based internet connection, the speed is governed by the network provider and the hardware you are using - Mike
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It is definitely MUCH quicker using the Onspeed browser than straight GPRS with PIE. Reformats the pages a bit but that doesn't bother me in the slightest.
If somebody was able to tell me how to speed up WnW via GPRS on a CompactIII without Onspeed I am all ears
HOW???
Roman5 said:
I have web and walk unlimited internet with T-Mobile which is about as fast or a bit slower than 56K. It's great though for when I'm out and about.
At home today, I connected it to my pc and activesync fired up. It showed me that I now have a new local area connection 3 specifically for the mda, as well as my local area connection 6 for my broadband. All of a sudden, my mda is as fast as my broadband connection! It loads up pages and threads as fast as my home pc does, which is on a 2MB connection. Fantastic. I didn't realise this would happen so that's pretty cool.
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Dear Roman5,
How on earth did you get such a fast connection? I have tried that before but it won't connect to the internet, even though it does recognise a new local area connection. I have to exit activesync and use the MDA's 'internet sharing' software - PAINFULLY SLOW, in fact my old dial-up was faster
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Dear Roman5,
How on earth did you get such a fast connection? I have tried that before but it won't connect to the internet, even though it does recognise a new local area connection. I have to exit activesync and use the MDA's 'internet sharing' software - PAINFULLY SLOW, in fact my old dial-up was faster
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same here mate would really appreciate to know which settings you are using.
He isn't saying that he is getting ultra fast speeds on the PC when connected with his phone. What he is saying is that when his Artemis is connected, it uses the PC's internet connection as its own. So instead of using GPRS or Wi-Fi, it uses the computer as like a broadband USB modem
I do it with mine when its activesync. Especially when I have just flashed a new ROM and I'm using Resco Update
ah right. you mean using the pc as the modem?
but why would you want to do that? lol just use the PC.
i guess you are right tho no matter how fast t mobile provide their internet, if the phone as a 56k modem then you can only get 56k down the pc if using phone as the modem.
maybe the next model up might have a faster modem?
Yes that's right, it uses my pc's broadband connection instead of it's own gprs. I only noticed it because I connect the MDA to my pc every day to charge the phone. It's handy when I'm gaming on my pc or using some other application. If I want to surf the net at the same time, I can use the MDA at broadband speed.
Hello, I am a rookie, let us a lot of attention
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Hi,
Now updated to Activsync 4.5 on my laptop - when I connect the phone via USB it immediately makes a connection to O2 GPRS which obviously I do not want as their data rates are high.
Shall I just install and use the program thats been reported here to disable the auto GPRS connectivity.
I wish the Orbit could just use wifi as the default network connection
Gavin
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I wish the Orbit could just use wifi as the default network connection
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Now that would just lose them money from the people who don't know any better.
A little off subject here - I went with T-Mobile "web n walk" with my calling plan. Unlimited GPRS usage.
What b******t
So are you sugesting he needs to get a head to cure a headache ?
Obviously NOT, unless of course you work for T-Mobile.
I would suggest you check the options on the ActiveSync software to disable the posibility of syncing over the internet, or perhaps as you rightly found, simply try the software to disable GPRS download.
@Longhair - People get in this forum to seek others opinions and not to be taken a mickey off!
Peoples,
I would like to set up my Orbit to work as a modem for my Laptop whilst on holidays ie use it to connect to the internet etc
Question is how can I do same, and the best method given that my laptop has bluetooth and wifi (or direct cable connection?)?
Many thanks
I assume you're on O2 and don't mind paying for GPRS roaming while aboard, which I assume your holiday is also aboard.
You can follow the below link from O2 (setup for windows) which tells you what username/passowrd, phone number and ips you need to put in the settings.
http://www.o2.co.uk/assets/O2HybridNav/Static-files/PDFs/Windows manual set up instructions.pdf
as far as the installing the modem goes, turn on bluetooth, discoverable, and your PC should see your phone in the bluetooth browser and you should be able to add it as a modem.
Thanks for the reply humps
...will try here (UK) first, but back in Australia will use a local SIM for data and calls....cheers
It's not that hard..
You simply need to pair up your orbit with the lappy... the blootooth should detect and install various components (modem etc)... but the one you need to use is Bluetooth LAN. On the orbit, go to intenet sharing, make the pc conenction Bluetooth PAN, and hit conenct - I've not tried it on USB, as the bluetooth is perfect...
Then, just double-click the bluetooth LAN connection on the laptop, and it should piggyback on the back of the orbit's GPRS connection.
USB is easy, start Internet Sharing in the Programs menu, tell it what connection settings to use, select USB, then touch connect. Plug the cable into the laptop and your done.
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I've not tried it on USB, as the bluetooth is perfect...
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Except it runs the battery down very quickly. USB will charge the battery whilst you browse.... But other than that it is fine.
i was wondering is it possible to share ppc's wifi connection through usb to a lappy without wifi capability?
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i was wondering is it possible to share ppc's wifi connection through usb to a lappy without wifi capability?
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Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1315142&postcount=2
It might or might not work though!
This really gets me in the UK... I have hundreds of mins free calls yet get charged sill money for going on line GPRS.... When away its cheeper to plug into a phone line and go on dial up and the same speed.... why hasnt someone come up with a way of using the phone as a 'modem' old skool style. that way i could use the phone call mins and pay for the on line time rather than kbs
Interesting thought GPRS v GSM
Have you tried settings..connections, add a new connection and just specify 'Cellular Line' arather than GPRS...
You'll need an ISP with a dialup number, but it would count as a standard call.
Problem, of course, is that most ISP dialups are 0845 numbers which won't come out of your call allowance, but if you could find one with say an 020 number, you may be getting somewhere (line spped would be v slow, but it would be good enough to download mails and then read them offline)
I have a laptop at home on comcast broad band. I also have a phoneline going into the laptop. I've already configured vista dial in server on the laptop. I cannot make my unlocked dash to use the dialup feature to dial. I know im supposed to setup the DUN feature then launch explorer but when i do that it doesnt dial out.
If i can achieve this, will ATT charge me for the data im using?
I know i havent given all the details of my setup, please ask away.
No, all you have to do is plug your phone into your computer through usb and bam... you will have the internet on your phone too...
Thanks but thats not what im trying to do. WHat im trying to do is to dial into my broadband when im AWAY from home. Obviously if i want to surf from home i can use my pc, use my wifi on my dash or do what u described.
dont all answer at once! does anyone have a clue how to do this
When you say dial-in, are you trying to access services on your pc? Of you're trying to use your PC as a radius server all you're going to get is 9.6kbps, way slower than edge.
i dont know what a radius server is. Im trying to just dial-in to my pc to use the broadband internet. If i use edge it will cost me. dont want to use edge
it doesnt work that way.
A radius server is what authenticates when you dial in via dial-up. If you dial in via dial up, edge or wifi, you're going to be limited by the bandwidth of the connection you're using to connect to your broadband from. If you're connected at dial-up (9.6kbps) all you're going to get is 9.6Kbps regardless of what you're connecting to. If you used edge all you would get is about 200kbps. If you used wi-fi you'd be limited by the aomount of bandwidth provided by the ISP. Wi-Fi is the way to go but any other connections aren't going to give you broadband speed when the total throughput for each of the methods aside from wi-fi are way lower.
The pipe has to be big at both ends for this to work, if the pipe is smaller on one end then all traffic will be sent out at the smaller pipes bandwidth.
ahh very well explained. It can be done by setting up a radius server but the through put will be like waiting for brittany spears to stop drinking?
I want to use your phone's internet connection to connect to the Internet from your PC or laptop is this at all possable on blackstone!?? if so how?
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I want to use your phone's internet connection to connect to the Internet from your PC or laptop is this at all possable on blackstone!?? if so how?
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just connect your hd to your PC via usb and than when you get a pop up message (activesync , internet sharing , disk drive) choose "internet sharing".
that's it
Will this use alot more of my internet i gt unlimited internet bundle but only to 500mb i think
depends what you do with it. but yes, it will use however much of your GPRS internet package you use.
I've been doing this for ages on O2's unlimited data plan.
And I use the wifi sharing app instead of connecting it by USB since it's obviously more convenient.
I use internet sharing with the USB-cable quite a lot. Every week when I travel by train for 2 hours.
In some regions I have a bad reception and the connection drops every now and then, but when my reception is good I even can chat with Windows Live Messenger on my laptop, with both webcams turned on (mine and the person I'm talking to).
I'm very happy with internet at my laptop
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I've been doing this for ages on O2's unlimited data plan.
And I use the wifi sharing app instead of connecting it by USB since it's obviously more convenient.
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wher can i find wifi app2?
this mean ur laptop hasnt got wifi
n ur able use ur device find wifi
gd idea would b handy but most
wifi connetions here have passwrds
karlcook_86 said:
wher can i find wifi app2?
this mean ur laptop hasnt got wifi
n ur able use ur device find wifi
gd idea would b handy but most
wifi connetions here have passwrds
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That's not what he means.
With a program for your HD you can send Wifi signals, like a router.
You just use your incoming phone signal and that program sends it out as Wifi again. Than you can connect to the wifi-signal with your laptop.
It is the same as internet sharing via the usb cable, but without the cable
If you want this, look for WMWifiRouter (paid) or HTC Wifi Sharing (free!)
here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4170499
however internet connection is much faster if you just connect to your usb...
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here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4170499
however internet connection is much faster if you just connect to your usb...
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How is it (much) faster through USB?
If I connect to O2's HSDPA network (which I frequently do) I get around 3-4Mbps and that's the network maximum so not sure where you got the cable is faster idea...
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How is it (much) faster through USB?
If I connect to O2's HSDPA network (which I frequently do) I get around 3-4Mbps and that's the network maximum so not sure where you got the cable is faster idea...
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i measured it... when connected to usb my download speed was 500kb/s and when connected to my phones wifi my speed was 40kb/s...
i guess that communication between my laptop and pda is much faster when connected through usb , nothing else.
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here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4170499
however internet connection is much faster if you just connect to your usb...
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thnx buddy i will try soon as
i can...work,work, work n more work
unfair lol
Hello, I have been searching around for a day and a half now to no avail. I figure I will ask here as a last attempt before I go and buy another USB wifi adapter.
I am trying to use my HTC Dash with WM6.5 to tether an available wifi connection over to my Windows 7 PC. Basically trying to use the phone as a wifi adapter. The phone has no cell data service, but can connect to the home wifi network that is here. My Windows 7 PC has no Wifi adapter (I left it behind >.<).
Here is where I am at. The HTC Dash is connected to the Wifi network, and when I try to select a Network in the ICS program, it says there is none available. I have been able to get USB selected in ICS, and the phone connected to the computer. In Windows I see a Windows Mobile Remote Adapter in the Network Connections area when I sync the device in Windows Mobile Center. But no matter what I try, ICS sharing on the phone will not let me select the Wifi connection it has.
Through my searching I have found a lot of information on tethering 2G and 3G internet through USB, and using the phone as a Wifi Hotspot. But those where no help in this.
My friend on a G1 with Andriod can tether Wifi connections to a pc, and I am wondering if Windows Mobile can do the same thing. I can flash my ROM from to 6.0 or 6.1 WM if needed.
Thanks in advance to any advice given, hopefully someone can help me out
UPDATE: Still have no luck. I found a program called ICS Control v.21, but it only works on touchscreen WM phones, not WM standard. Which means a bunch of crashing.
This program would do exactally what I need it to do... just does not support my phone. Well the search continues... looking like I may just have to go buy an USB Wifi adapter soon.
tethering w/wifi
It does work. I'm currently answering this on my 2nd desktop Vista with my S620 via my home wifi network. Waiting for a 25' ethernet connector to hardware to wifi/modem Not quite sure how it is with a wifi adapter but 2 things I do know from experience. You shouldn't need an adapter.
1st: you can't be in Sync Center while trying to tether, at least in my case on a Vista desktop. It won't let you tether while the sync is running (or your already synced).
2nd: (this worked for me) open internet sharing on your Dash/S620, pc connection-usb and be ready to hit connect the 1st couple of seconds after pluging your usb connector into your phone, and give it 10-20 seconds to actually connect. If you wait to long to hit connect, the phone will start syncing with the computer. Won't let you tether.
RE-read post, missed thar "WinMo" remote part. My bad. Don't own Win 7. Don't know what that is.
Question: Is there an active wifi where you are ? From your post it sounds like "yes"
You do not need a wifi adapter. You do need a USB cord.
I tethered with edge for a bit, but then got to thinking. Try Wifi. It worked, but be quick.
Neither one is super fast but Wifi is definitely faster than Edge. Better than not being on the net at all. Occasionally it'll cut out, just unplug usb, get to connect screen, plug in and hit connect. Should be set.
As a side note: I also tried tethering with G1. Xferd pc driver to Vista from G1 but computer says it can't find the driver. Gave up after 2 hours.
G1 tethering works great on XP though.
Hope this helps. Good Luck. Really cool when it works.
Are you using a wifi tether or just usb?
If wifi, what program/version are you using and where did you get it? I got the ICS usb tether working, but my version of wmwifirouter.cab won't even install on the dash. cheers
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Are you using a wifi tether or just usb?
If wifi, what program/version are you using and where did you get it? I got the ICS usb tether working, but my version of wmwifirouter.cab won't even install on the dash. cheers
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I'll have to break out the Dash again and let you know. It's been sitting for weeks since I repaired LCD screen and flashed my TMO Wing. Can't seem to stop playing with it.
Give me a little time and I'll get back to you.
You do have a wifi modem, correct ? I was using usb.
Right, just to be clear, my goal is to set up my Dash to receive it's edge data and transmit that out as a wifi signal that my laptop will pick up and connect to the internet. No USB connection. I'm getting an ipad eventually and this is all to avoid that stupid 3g garbage they're hawking.
I tried a program called wmwifirouter.cab but was unsuccessful. An ad-hoc wifi network was created by my phone and my laptop was connected to it but couldn't connect to the internet. And my phone kept crashing.
Any ideas? Thanks
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Right, just to be clear, my goal is to set up my Dash to receive it's edge data and transmit that out as a wifi signal that my laptop will pick up and connect to the internet. No USB connection. I'm getting an ipad eventually and this is all to avoid that stupid 3g garbage they're hawking.
I tried a program called wmwifirouter.cab but was unsuccessful. An ad-hoc wifi network was created by my phone and my laptop was connected to it but couldn't connect to the internet. And my phone kept crashing.
Any ideas? Thanks
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Well, in your case, I won't be any help. What I did was run a 2nd computer off of my Dash with a Wifi Modem.
XP in another room with a wifi modem attached on Comcast, Dash on wifi and usb to Vista computer, since I didn't have a 25ft ethernet cable at the time.
Was running Vista-Dash-wifi modem-XP to comcast so I could run 2nd computer without being hard wired.
I'm familiar with wifirouter cab. It let's you use your phone like a hotspot, correct ?
In all my searches for various things for the phones, I thought I saw a different application that did the same thing. Possibly might even have it. I'll check and upload for ya if I find it. Have hundreds of cabs/zips to search. Let you know.
Possibly google it and you might find it yourself. There's a program called: WalkingHotSpot online for $24.99 if you don't mind spending. Dash isn't listed as a supported windows device but looking at the other phones listed my guess would be it should work. Try their DEMO version, see if it works.
Good Luck.......
2AM and I was just wondering......When you received your phone, you also got a usb cable with it, right ?
Why don't you just usb Dash to laptop and use "internet sharing" ????
My plan is to set this up for an iPad, which doesn't allow internet access over a USB cable, so USB tethering is out, has to be wifi.
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My plan is to set this up for an iPad, which doesn't allow internet access over a USB cable, so USB tethering is out, has to be wifi.
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Do you have a home computer ? If so, get yourself a Wifi Modem and set up a home network. $40-60. Although Comcast sold me mine for $20 and I get to keep it. I can get all 5 phones on the internet at the same time, not that I need to. It'll also be so much faster then running thru Edge. Besides the fact video's don't play for crap tethered running through Edge. Just a suggestion.
My opinion stands concerning Apple. Get ready to cough up more fees for internet (ATT). They're doing away with unlimited data. Did you see their prices ?
You'll never catch me with ATT.
I just put WMWifiRouter on my TMO Wing 6.5. let you know how it worked. Setup went fine, so far.
did you try downloading the actual .cab from WMWIFIROUTER.COM it's only a trial for 21 days, the "Free" versions don't work on the dash i've tried many of them.
once you install and get it set up be sure to write down the Access ID and Password it gives you so you can connect to the WiFi signal beaming from your phone from your PC. It works for me to tether a WiFi connection from my Dash to PC though I prefer the more stable Internet Sharing USB to PC and I have an Unlimited Data Plan.
WMWIFIROUTER also lets you tether a connection from your phone via bbluetooth.
I use WMWiFiRouter and its a life saver. It lets you pretty much tether any connection to any other.
Just yesterday I was at a meeting in a resturant with some clients and used it to hook my netbook to the internet and used bluetooth as the connection to the phone. Yes, Internet Sharing can do that, but it has alot more it can do too.
You can use Bluetooth, USB (it shows up as a USB modem), or even set it up as a WiFi Router.
Very cool program and it works perfectly on the Dash. I love it.
I never tried the trial version. A friend of mine showed it to me, so I just bought it. It's under $20. Well worth it if you run into that situation often.