Tochflo/touch device - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Hi alltogether,
can somebody explain the difference between the touch devices and the software that works on our hermes (eg. tochflo from the wm6 roms S64 in my case). is there also a hardware difference?
the main reason for me to know is cause i cannot make a decission for my next phone. perhaps the kaiser or the touch cruise. (ok..ok.. with or without a keyboard.. i know)
greets
voxid..

The main difference is the screen. Ours are not laid out for touchflo. Everybody tries to overcome this with the software. However Hardware wise it is different. Go into a phone shop and pick up a touch and you will feel the difference.

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Harrier Forum?

Is it completely absurd me thinking that there should be a forum added for the Harrier as it is CDMA? I'm just thinking it would be a lot more convenient for people to find solutions for their particular hardware.
It would be nice since what works on the BA obviously doesn't work on the Harrier, but I think there must be an unusually small number of people that use the Harrier. It seems there is little interest in the Harrier judging by the fact you posted this question over 2 weeks ago and I'm the 1st to respond!
iam also intrested
Very Interrested.
I would be too. But everything has been said and done already about the Harrier (6600s). And until someone figures out how to get the rom updated to WM5 or 6 there is nothing else. Every other forum is dead or removed that I know of. I brought up trying to use the WM5 rom for a samsung i730 as our stepping stone. But as of now there hasn't been any reply.
I'll say it again. If anyone could tell (show) me how to strip down the rom from the i730 to just the OS and the drivers, I think we could get somewhere. But I know next to nothing about it. And sure as hell don't know enough to go it on my own.
The main problem is the bootloader, not OS. To run WM5/6, you need a WM5/6 compatible bootloader. The OS itself is actually not device specific. It can actually be ported from one device to another with relative ease. The drivers may be a problem, but I've heard in some cases WM2003 drivers can work, and I think most drivers from the Blue Angel may work in the Harrier with the exception of the radio drivers. So basically, I think even tearing the i730 ROM apart won't help. That's not even considering the XIP! Most files in the XIP are device-specific. Even if we had a WM5/6 capable bootloader, I'm not sure we could come up with a compatible XIP.
Samsung bootloaders are usually very, very different from HTC. It's remotely possible it could work, but if it doesn't, it will PERMANENTLY brick the phone. It could definitely at least get us further ahead if it were possible to try different bootloaders, but experimenting with bootloaders is 100% guaranteed to brick the phone. That would be no big deal if someone knew the JTAG pads in order to repair a bricked phone with corrupt bootloader, but without knowing the JTAG pads, it's rather silly to even attempt it.
Most of the time when a device doesn't support WM5/6, but someone made it work, it's using the bootloader and XIP out of a leaked ROM. Perhaps through a secret connection through someone that works at HTC.
I tore apart my 6700's ROM and noticed there's a file, RadioServicePresent.dll that seems specific to CDMA whose description is "Harrier Radio Present Service". Could that possibly mean somewhere, there is a prototype WM5 for Harrier?

Question? What should I do?

I have been proposed to change my Excalibur to a QTEK 9090... What should I do? Is the QTEK a good device?
Qtek's are good devices...I had the T-Mobile MDA which is the Qtek 9100. It does have WM Pro which will be different than the WM Standard that the Ex does. At first I didn't think it had a keyboard but it does so that's a plus...it looks like a version of the SX-66 that Cingular/AT&T carried and if that's the case it looks like it's a older device and may not run WM6...or even 6.1 for that matter. It may not even be able to have WM5 on there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372485
seems WM 6.1 PRO is supported. Would it run swift?
Well that looks like it will run 6.1 on it, Blue Angel is another name for it and as long as they are saying it runs without a hitch then you shouldn't have any problems...size might be a factor depending on if you want a smaller phone...I have a habit if I get a touch screen then I baby the phone alittle more than I should and always freak out about the screen aposed to my Dash I just wipe it with my hand and keep using it and not worry too much about damaging the screen since I don't have to worry about damaging the digitizer

HTC Service is verry bad!

Hello everyone,
I bought a NEW TP2 in august 2009. It was a nice phone I thought then. But when I closed the keyboard the phone sometimes went off. I thought updating WM6.1 to 6.5 will solved that problem, so I waited for the upgrate, but it was no succes. I put the program Rhodium Keyboard Controller from Tarkim on the device. A great program, that's make a diffence with the iPhone.
So I decribed the problem and I sent it to HTC repair. It took 2 times to resolve the problem. But I got it back with a new motherboard (and s/n). But then the volume buttons didn't work correct anymore. So the device went back (3 times) to solve that problem. Oke it can happen, the people of the servicecenter HTC are nice and polite.
But now it is not possible to use the program from Tarkim anymore. The complete device freeze all buttons will not work anymore. I also have tried to put back several backups (Spb Backup). It is not possible anymore. So I sent it back to HTC services (2 times). Included a video and a link to Tarkims program. Both times the did NOT look at the cd (still sealed). Just reset the device and sent it back.
And now the HTC service say they do not look at 3th partsoftware, end of case. I think it is a hardware failure.
So I am out of options.
Does anybody think I can solve this problem with a custom rom.
Thanx in advance,
Richard
that sucks that you have to use htc service for repairs. Verizon just gives me a new phone in one business day if it is broken.
Jamboman said:
Hello everyone,
I bought a NEW TP2 in august 2009. It was a nice phone I thought then. But when I closed the keyboard the phone sometimes went off.
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I've seen reports where there is a little slop with the battery in the compartment. Put in a small shim to be sure its good and tight with no slop. Some even reported better battery performance with the better contact.
You need to use Rhodium keyboard controller not Raphael keyboard controller.
petard said:
You need to use Rhodium keyboard controller not Raphael keyboard controller.
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You are right, but I do mean Rhodium, sorry.
But do anyone know or think, that the problem is a hardware or a software problem?
Thanx

Diamond screen weird behaviour....Please HELP..

Hey guys,
I have this weird problem on my diamond 2G's screen...My touch screen, if seen from side ways,shows a spectrum like thing(green redish) in the center of the screen(1/2 inch by 1 inch)
Also the touch sensitivity has been affected bcz of that. I have to press a little harder than d other part of the screen. but it works flawlessly...
So i dont know wat could be wrong with my diamond(if anythng)...
Please help...
Not quite sure of "Diamond 2G", but assuming its P3700, I've seen a similar thing happen right after I've flashed the HSPL. As far as I recall, it was all good after I flashed a custom ROM. Could possibly be a image rebasing issue...
Yeah its diamond p3700 only...actually i have my hardspl installed installed since a long time...never happened before...
Also, have been using custom rom since a long time...i thought it would be hardware related..but if u sayin u had the same problem and it went away...i will try flashin a new rom and will report back...
Thanx
@openwicked...
I just wanted to ask one more thing..as u mentioned that it happened after installing hard spl...so u suggesting its a software thing...
but i tried removing the battery too..and it still shows dat spectrum thing...also if i touch it, it spreads..as in it doesnt increase in size but the same effect if u touch an lcd screen..the moving of the liquid inside...
does that sound familier???
Sounds worse than I thought. The spectrum persistence will stay for a few seconds (maybe more depending the amount of time the capacitors take time to get discharged completely), but isn't the kindof thing I faced though.
In anyway case, the board support packages (be it QUALCOMM or anything) are quite close to the hardware and can affect display (among other things) adversely. I'd recommend you fall back to the stock ROM/Radio for now.
Do let me know if it helps.

Buying a Blue Angel today?

Hi, my sister needs a low cost new phone and i've found, on eBay, some Qtek 9090 at 144€.
I know, it's a quite old device, but, viewing the tecnical sheet, it doesn't seems to be so bad... In fact, i'm asking you users, would you buy a Blue Angel today?
Of course i'd upgrade its ROM, it's dangerous?
Now i've got an HTC Diamond, is it really different beethween ARM and Xscale? Does it cause any compatibility issue?
And, important thing, is it strong? She's not very "soft" with phones
i would definetely buy one again, but not for 150eur! 30-60 maybe. on ebay, for 150 you'd get a touch pro or touch diamond in mint condition.
upgrading the rom is not dangerous. many people messed up their phones during upgrading, but there is always a pretty easy way to restore it. no mistake is fatal.
Chef_Tony said:
i would definetely buy one again, but not for 150eur! 30-60 maybe. on ebay, for 150 you'd get a touch pro or touch diamond in mint condition.
upgrading the rom is not dangerous. many people messed up their phones during upgrading, but there is always a pretty easy way to restore it. no mistake is fatal.
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I couldn't find one for lower prices that meets my payments requests...
But this is not a problem
I've seen that flasing is a bit tricky compared to flashing the HTC Diamond, where you can just download the ROM and, if it's for Diamond, you can flash it without problem...
Here there are some IDs to edit before flashing, right?
no, i find the blueangel to be the easiest device to flash, no CID locking, no need for SPL changing... just bootloader, flashing, hard reset, and that is the same procedure for any device, just that the BA does not need to be unlocked before, just the extrom resize, which is not mandatory.
Chef_Tony said:
no, i find the blueangel to be the easiest device to flash, no CID locking, no need for SPL changing... just bootloader, flashing, hard reset, and that is the same procedure for any device, just that the BA does not need to be unlocked before, just the extrom resize, which is not mandatory.
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Uh Really?
What about this? It's useless right now? :O
the RUU checks for deviceID and countryID and other IDs, but by using a custom RUU and putting the device into bootloader mode before connecting to the pc, all those id checks are bypassed.
on the wiki page in your link, the topic is finding the correct STOCK rom for your device. but nobody uses stock roms with wm2003se anymore. all the roms offered on this forum work for all blueangel models, no matter if it's a t-mo mda iii or spv m2000 or siemens sx66 or whatever. the only device, that cannot be flashed with blueangel roms, is the harrier, the cdma version of the phone. but since there is no cdma network in europe, there is no chance of getting a harrier, plus, you would recognize a harrier immediately, because it has no sim card slot, because on cdma, that is not needed.
btw the best thing about the blueangel is the community i have a Blueangel, a Universal and a Touch HD and while the other 2 devices' hardware is way superior, their respective sections here on the forum are by far not as good as the blueangel's.
Chef_Tony said:
the RUU checks for deviceID and countryID and other IDs, but by using a custom RUU and putting the device into bootloader mode before connecting to the pc, all those id checks are bypassed.
on the wiki page in your link, the topic is finding the correct STOCK rom for your device. but nobody uses stock roms with wm2003se anymore. all the roms offered on this forum work for all blueangel models, no matter if it's a t-mo mda iii or spv m2000 or siemens sx66 or whatever. the only device, that cannot be flashed with blueangel roms, is the harrier, the cdma version of the phone. but since there is no cdma network in europe, there is no chance of getting a harrier, plus, you would recognize a harrier immediately, because it has no sim card slot, because on cdma, that is not needed.
btw the best thing about the blueangel is the community i have a Blueangel, a Universal and a Touch HD and while the other 2 devices' hardware is way superior, their respective sections here on the forum are by far not as good as the blueangel's.
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Great, so i just have to go to bootloader and flash? Just great
So it's even less dangerous than flashing other devices. Wow, i like it
I can't wait to play with it
Cero92 said:
Hi, my sister needs a low cost new phone and i've found, on eBay, some Qtek 9090 at 144€.
I know, it's a quite old device, but, viewing the tecnical sheet, it doesn't seems to be so bad... In fact, i'm asking you users, would you buy a Blue Angel today?
Of course i'd upgrade its ROM, it's dangerous?
Now i've got an HTC Diamond, is it really different beethween ARM and Xscale? Does it cause any compatibility issue?
And, important thing, is it strong? She's not very "soft" with phones
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I'll sell you mine for 100e with postage fees included. Seriously, just need to fix this sim card bug, and if you want it, we can do business.
aco036 said:
I'll sell you mine for 100e with postage fees included. Seriously, just need to fix this sim card bug, and if you want it, we can do business.
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Sorry i've already bought it
The main problem was the payment method: for 150€ here on XDA i could get some newer devices, but i don't have paypal and postepay...
dont buy ba today
it's slow and old and big. just buy some newer, smaller and faster. i have one but i don't use it any more
trilv said:
it's slow and old and big. just buy some newer, smaller and faster. i have one but i don't use it any more
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BA is slow ??? LOL not really it is faster as a Kaiser for example
I should get it today
The 400Mhz CPU is (by frequence) faster than my old Elfin (200Mhz) but it's an XScale based device, so i don't think i can directly compare them... What are the differences beethween XScale and ARM?
I have.. .. alot of devices. I like the blueangel. It's alot better than the newer phones, faster. I'd use a blueangel over any of the newer phones. Hermes was the last good phone put out by HTC.
cheapusenet said:
I have.. .. alot of devices. I like the blueangel. It's alot better than the newer phones, faster. I'd use a blueangel over any of the newer phones. Hermes was the last good phone put out by HTC.
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I got it today and it seems to be good, i like it...
Just a question: is normal that the slider is a bit "strong"? In fact, on mine, it doesn't open itself when i press it up (i am used to the new Nokia's sliders )
However i'd take it, but also my sister likes it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7948072#post7948072 I have some problems

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