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hello,
their seems to be a few posts on this being ported to BA recently. ow ive got linux running on my BA fairly well (havent got round to setting up gprs etc yet though but thats a different matter) and id be willing to try and get a port of android working, if someone can extract the 3 img files in the android sdk as ive not managed to do that yet ? anyone want to try and help or am i talking of a lost cause

ok, ill post this incase anyone is watching. i made some progress getting andriod running but i keep getting seg fault tryingto run it, any1 who could provide insight let me know pelase

Unfortunately I can't help you but I'll be keeping a VERY close eye on this thread!
Good luck, I'm sure there are a whole load of people who'd buy you a beer if you succeed.
Steve

glad to see someones watching . ill have another play around over weekend see what i can come up with

it will be interesting to see how android works on BA keep up with the good work

Nice.
I like my BA and I don't wont to change it until an open linux mobile is avaible (an open Iphone could be great).
Maybe a sub-forum called "Blue angel linux" could help.
I'm bored or a problem with the actual BA linux is the acces to the wifi chipset?

And this seems noise. And I don't want to pay for having linux on my BA!
http://www.a-la-mobile.com/news/press/pr080114.html

aperles said:
I'm bored or a problem with the actual BA linux is the acces to the wifi chipset?
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Not the access, but a nice gui/setup.

remember linux is designed primarily for people who know what their doing. yes theirs guis now which help but you stil need command line to use linux properly. except on the iPhone and android from what ive seen

actually there was an earlier thread regarding android. and with 921+ adding 200+ views here, We bet there are people that are REALLY interested porting this.
hope we get it up and running.
anything for our BA.
even alternatives to WM6 are welcome.

well im not having a lot of look, it seems to be segfaulting pretty much constantly. think its down to the busybox shell though so im going to find a newer one and try that later, does anyone know what version of the arm feature set the BA uses. (because from reading http://benno.id.au/blog/2007/11/21/android-neo1973) android only seems to work on devices using ARMv5 featureset. whatever that means)
UPDATE: thats not a problem, the pxa263 in the BA is ARMv5TE so thats ok - gotta love wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XScale)
Further update: ok been reading up a bit more and im doing the risky thing of building my own kernel for android see if i can get round these damn segfaults

ok just thought id post up so people done think ive given up here . still havign issues compiling the linux kernel with the android addidtions. mainly because i ahvent got a proper linux machine at home (only virtual pc on this computer)...dont suppose anyone uses linux and has a decent knownledge of compiling kernels on here ??

DJ_Steve said:
ok just thought id post up so people done think ive given up here . still havign issues compiling the linux kernel with the android addidtions. mainly because i ahvent got a proper linux machine at home (only virtual pc on this computer)...dont suppose anyone uses linux and has a decent knownledge of compiling kernels on here ??
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I've compiled kernels under Linux before, but not for an embedded system like the angel's.
Where did you get the tarballs for everything? And what distro of Linux did you install?
Really, real machine vs virtual machine, in this case, shouldn't matter. It might, but shouldn't.

not so much the fact im using a virtual machine, its the fact im only on a 2mb connection so downloading linux cd images takes ages and since debian is the only distro ive seen which has arm crosscompile tools that work that means 2 dvds or 9+cd images. most of the tarballs ive had to rip direct from the android sdk emulator. i could host them somewhere if someone wants to try and help me out getting a kernel running - after that i think most of android should fall into place on its own, but getting openbinder support in the kernels proving difficult
EDIT/UPDATE: ok just tried installing the arm crosscompiliers on my development dedicated server and it seems to be compiling a kernel as i type (hopefully) so looks to be some progress happening here

Been following your thread with interest.
I should be getting a new PDA from work, so then I could take the risk of bricking my trusty and battered Blue Angel.
Any chance you could post some links to the various bits you are using? Not a step by step (unless you have the time) but the starting points so others can attempt to duplicate your efforts in parallel?
Good luck - I'm rooting for you!

ok, im just tarballing up the files on my webserver now, didnt have any success with kernel, looks like im going to have to take the blueangel drivers etc from the kernel posted on handhelds.org and manually merge the config files into the android kernel image to get it to compile. unless anyone can suggest a way to do that easily (windows or linux routine i dont mind)
the main sites ive used to help out ive listed below
http://benno.id.au/blog/ << somewhere on their theirs a link to the android root filesystem image. (http://benno.id.au/android/system.tar.gz and http://benno.id.au/android/data.tar.gz)
http://nemustech.blogspot.com/2007/12/android-porting-to-real-target-hw.html
http://euedge.com/blog/2007/12/06/google-android-runs-on-sharp-zaurus-sl-c760/
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelKernel
the three above above links help even though their not scriptly related to android on blueangel
the rest of the files are in http://radiodmp.net/android-files/ - the 365mb file contains the 2 arm cross compilers and also both the newest blueangel linux kernel and the android kernel - as said above these need merging (android kernel needs to be the one that is the final kernel as its newer i believe
edit: ive just put the system and data tars linked above into the folder on my server also to save people time.
hope that helps
if anyone wants any help drop me a message and ill try and help out. will of course keep trying to sort it myself too

Any update on this?
Actively watching this thread and just wanted to know. I'd love to be able to play with Android.

good to see ppl interested. ive not had time to try and merge the kernels yet, hopefulyl might get chance this week

DJ_Steve said:
good to see ppl interested.
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Still watching, still interested!
Keep it up.
Steve

ok managed to hack together the two kernels, compiling it as i type - hopefully it'll workon my BA

[PRJ][OS]Linux and Android on HTC Diamond "NOT YET WORKING"

This thread discusses Linux for HTC Diamond and HTC Raphael
User resources
To get started with android real quick use this site http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelDonut
Further information on progress with Linux and Android and help can be found at the Raphael Linux wiki page.
Developer resources
The wiki of the htc-linux.org project has all the required uptodate research information http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki
If you want to contribute in the kernel porting project, please use this wiki.
The latest kernel code for Raphael, Diamond (and the other msm7xxxA devices) can be found in the htc-msm-2.6.27 branch of the linuxtogo.org git repository.
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original post:
Hi,
Would be nice if somebody could try and test if the kaiser linux kernel boots on their diamond. Here's what you need
http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/
It has a small documentation but here's what you need to do again:
Get haret.exe, default.txt, zImage and angstrom-console on your diamond into the same folder, run haret.exe and tap run.
edit: the link above points to a website with kernel builds for the kaiser (msm7200). since diamond has msm7201A, it would be better to build directly from the android-msm-2.6.25 branch which has the halibut machine type. halibut is also an msm7x00A. there are some differences between the A and non-A msms.
google git is at
git.android.com
checkout the branch android-msm-2.6.25 ( it's most uptodate)
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I have in fact been researching this since yesterday. The vanilla Android is for 7x00A devices, and should work on Diamond without too much fuss. I'm not a Linux developer though, so I'll need some help with that part. (though I am a developer)
The Kaiser boot kit does not work. Once it's done loading the device freezes entirely. Kaiser uses 7200 though, not 7201A, and for all I know it might actually be (partly somewhat) running, but with no frame buffer.

agreed with the freezing part.

From Haret:
WinCE reports memory size 134217728 (phys=118571008 store=115261440)
Where did the rest 64 MByte go?

Ok who's seriously interested in getting this to work?
Whats the progress so far? Lets try to get something packaged and up for diamond.

me
I am definately going to spend some time trying to gets this to work when I get my Diamond.

teddyen66 said:
I am definately going to spend some time trying to gets this to work when I get my Diamond.
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I haven't been able to compile the kernel, but it sounds like you'll be able to. Give it a shot and I'll test it.

I'll test it too.

k, can you also try the vogue builds? http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DiamondResearch
the shared memory looks similar to the on on kaiser. So it will probably be easy to make communication with the phone work as soon as it works on kaiser. Of course you need to be able to boot first

Hi guys,
I've been trying to get Android running on my Diamond for a few days to no avail.
I've tried the Kaiser set of files and Vogue set of files. The furthest I've got is to make it display the 'Go Go Go...' message and then it hangs.
Has anyone actually got Android to run on a Diamond before?
Thanks.

Vogue does not work, but might be because of HaRET, don't know.
7201A is different from 7200. I would not expect it to work. However, the vanilla kernel is for Diamond type chips, so if anyone could compile a vanilla kernel it's worth testing. HaRET might need a few modifications though.

Very interesting!
This Android thing, getting it to run, what would the expectations be? Functionality, speed?
Just very curious, having once installed some linux-thingy on my magician.

I don't have a Diamond to test on, but I suspect the dev team for the Advantage could be of help. The build they have is running ok on Advantage, the touchscreen driver even works. No phone yet (last I checked). Maybe it will also run on Diamond?

nopes advantage is a different platform

I believe it'll just be a matter of time before we get a fully functioning Android build for the HTC Diamond because I can foresee it to be a very popular platform for the Android.
If there's any modifications to the default.txt boot file that would potentially make this work I'll be happy to try it out and let you guys know the results.

happyguy82 said:
I believe it'll just be a matter of time before we get a fully functioning Android build for the HTC Diamond because I can foresee it to be a very popular platform for the Android.
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I hope that too . I can not wait to run Android on my Diamond.

I guess it'd be a matter of setting up a cross compile (toolchains - chroot, binutils, gcc, glibc) environment for the ARM, compiling the kernel with the correct drivers and bootstrapping for the ARM.
Am I right? Or did I miss something?

Would this link be of any help ?
http://nemustech.blogspot.com/2007/12/android-porting-to-real-target-hw.html
I would like to get involved if someone is already working on it

Darn that's running smooth ...
... hope we can get some linux running on this hardware.

adwinp said:
I guess it'd be a matter of setting up a cross compile (toolchains - chroot, binutils, gcc, glibc) environment for the ARM, compiling the kernel with the correct drivers and bootstrapping for the ARM.
Am I right? Or did I miss something?
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Well, kinda. Where do you intend to get "correct drivers" for Diamond
Its not that easy, since HTC doesnt provide 'em

LG KS20 on Linux ??? ( LiMo )

Hi everybody , I was on youtube when i saw that video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1etbtava-g
Any info ???

No info but it looks awesome, it seems to be really smooth, I would love to have something like that on my KS20!

I found this
http://www.limofoundation.org/
Do you think that we can flash our KS20 with this OS ?
My english is not good , so please excuse me if I made some mistakes

someone got more information about this ?! looks very interesting but i cant find much about it via google and co.
greetz

limo its a project, this video its a testdrive demonstaration.

I found our phone (LG KS20) at here
http://www.limofoundation.org/en/limo-handsets.html
LG LiMo phone

^^ I think that's our KS20 with LiMo inside
I hope that we can also have it !!
I'm trying to boot android on my KS20 but i don't find one android release which boot arf =(
If someone can try to compile a new release of android which boot on KS20 , it will be great
Sorry for my bad english :$

Android | LiMo @ LG KS20
YOHA.. would be time to get rid of that WM6.1 from my LG KS20..
But, wait, LiMo is completely another thing than Android..
And besides that, I'm also pretty sure that Linux does work on the LG KS20, there is anyhow no trace of users able to do so in the wild till now..
So this means that either Android than some LiMo adehrent version should be available around: afaik there are no traces of such images or even help to build from sources..
Is this right or do somebody of you have some links/hints?
Maybe the closest relative to this is anyhow the HTC based Android compilations found in this forum (Vougue and Phantom..), maybe starting from them somehow..
But if someone has updates.. please do some postings here!
Cheers,
tent:wq

Hi everyone
After a hole night of compilation , i've obtain 4 files
"Generated: (out/target/product/generic/android-info.txt)
Target system fs image: out/target/product/generic/obj/PACKAGING/systemimage_unopt_intermediates/system.img
Install system fs image: out/target/product/generic/system.img
Target ram disk: out/target/product/generic/ramdisk.img
Target userdata fs image: out/target/product/generic/userdata.img"
A System.img , userdata.img , ramdisk.img and a text file android-info.txt
I don't know what to do with this files ( maybe haret ??? )
if someone would help me , it'll would be really apreciate ^^
Thanks

yuuuhuuu i'll be waitin for next info and release

Any new info on this? Willing to get rid of wm as soon as possible.

Any update ?
I'm sorry if i'm boring but if we can make linux works on our device , i think it wiil be great
as i'm a newbie , i really need help so everyone who want's to work in this project i leave my msn [email protected]
thanks you

News? (Android on LG KS20)
News? (Android on LG KS20)

I searched several times, but no traces of KS20 port of Android for the moment.
If you look at the nearest hardware device in advanced dev, you will see it's not gonna happen soon with full features :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux

kancrutt said:
yuuuhuuu i'll be waitin for next info and release
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up..
tent:wq

No Android release for KS20
I'm sorry guys but it will be hard to have Android on KS20.
This LGE phone is based on MSM7200 old Qualcomm chipset at 400MHz.
Qualcomm started developing Android releases on newer MSM7200A which not only has higher clock for the ARM11 application processor, but also different architecture in terms of graphic acceleration. This means there will not be any official release compatible with KS20 in the future.
Although me and other engineers, who have access to Android and Qcom drivers code, would like to port it to this device, we are struggled by the fact that we don't have any drivers from LGE, to make all other things working (primarly camera and display). So, no way we can do it for now...
Anyway, without the benefit of having Qualcomm Adreno 3D graphic accelerator on it, it will be a pain to run Android UI on KS20!

webjoker said:
I'm sorry guys but it will be hard to have Android on KS20.
This LGE phone is based on MSM7200 old Qualcomm chipset at 400MHz.
Qualcomm started developing Android releases on newer MSM7200A which not only has higher clock for the ARM11 application processor, but also different architecture in terms of graphic acceleration. This means there will not be any official release compatible with KS20 in the future.
Although me and other engineers, who have access to Android and Qcom drivers code, would like to port it to this device, we are struggled by the fact that we don't have any drivers from LGE, to make all other things working (primarly camera and display). So, no way we can do it for now...
Anyway, without the benefit of having Qualcomm Adreno 3D graphic accelerator on it, it will be a pain to run Android UI on KS20!
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This is a video by me ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1UB9jLpwmw

gregnapola said:
This is a video by me ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1UB9jLpwmw
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WOW! this gives me hope!
Do you have something to download and compile.. and maybe contribute?
some LGE drivers showed up at last or what? I suppose no touchscreen working atm but anyway worth to try..
tent:wq

tentator said:
WOW! this gives me hope!
Do you have something to download and compile.. and maybe contribute?
some LGE drivers showed up at last or what? I suppose no touchscreen working atm but anyway worth to try..
tent:wq
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Hi, you can try to load 0.8 linux images and almost all of other initrd like angstrom etc... with earlier Htc Niki's Kernel. Unfortunately I can't login trough ssh and GPIOs detection list from Haret doesn't correspond to the ones listed in the detailed Ks20 service manual...
I'm starting a new thread and I hope to involve some people with more skill than me...

ok, let me know about that new thread and links to the material and instructions, and I'll also try to contribute.
tent:wq
gregnapola said:
Hi, you can try to load 0.8 linux images and almost all of other initrd like angstrom etc... with earlier Htc Niki's Kernel. Unfortunately I can't login trough ssh and GPIOs detection list from Haret doesn't correspond to the ones listed in the detailed Ks20 service manual...
I'm starting a new thread and I hope to involve some people with more skill than me...
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[Q] is it possible to make desire dual boot ?

it is possible to run win ce / WM on desire?

No
Not that I'm aware of. You can't run Win Mob full stop.

Is it possible to dual boot with 2 different Custom MODS?? Like OpenDesire and Pays Rom for instance... Or a custom ROM and the official one that came with the phone..

hk5354 said:
it is possible to run win ce / WM on desire?
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This would be brilliant , they have android on the hd2, why can't we have winmo on the desire
+1 for a winmo 6,5 port

Would be great if you could multiboot, like with different sd cards.
But why would anyone want WinMo on the HTC Desire... Android for the win!

this is xda, this place has always been powered by "Because we can!", so don't ask such questions

Who in their right mind is going to put time and effort into porting a what is basically dead OS to the Desire ? Even Microsoft aren't bothering with WM anymore

Doesn't have to be 6.5...
But some WP7 features seem quite neat though.
I second this request! (if it is a request)

It's not possible since wm is not open source like android
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

back to the dual boot point, we can boot from a sd card so it is possible to dual boot 2 diff android roms

htc fan89 said:
It's not possible since wm is not open source like android
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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You are right on that. But Microsoft provides bootroms to test their emulator. Using this rom for dualbooting would be legit I guess..?

Puenos said:
You are right on that. But Microsoft provides bootroms to test their emulator. Using this rom for dualbooting would be legit I guess..?
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I think you miss the point - whilst there is a legal aspect here, I think the main point is not the license associated with open source, but the source code itself.
As Android is open source, it can be compiled to different targets, and deep changes can be made to the source code to get everything working.
As WinMo is not open source, you do not have this luxury, and so the porting exercise would be much, much harder.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I think you miss the point - whilst there is a legal aspect here, I think the main point is not the license associated with open source, but the source code itself.
As Android is open source, it can be compiled to different targets, and deep changes can be made to the source code to get everything working.
As WinMo is not open source, you do not have this luxury, and so the porting exercise would be much, much harder.
Regards,
Dave
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Well.. I didn't look at this closely enough.. but Microsoft also provides an emulator for testing their roms.. using this "microsoft device emulator"s sources would make it a bit easier I guess? Well.. you can click on "license" on the following link.. but I just get a "page not found".. so I don't know any details.. but here is the link I found:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ED-6C95B261DDCD&displaylang=en&displaylang=en
I'm not a dev.. just did a bit research on this one and found their offical emulator.. besides that, there are also a few emulators for the WinMo environment.. some even written in Java I believe..
Again I don't know if they used some code from MS, or just wrote everything from scratch.. I don't really have enough knowledge here.. but I thought maybe I could share my thoughts and get some answers.. and maybe the information I found was a bit helpful?
Thanks anyway

Hy
At first im sorry for my bad englisch.
Back to multi boot of desire.
How we can implementing boot from sd-card and back.
How can i boot from sd-card?
What is with data.img, is it nessesary to build an other image or can i use the stock-rom to boot it from sd-card ( i think its unpossibele) ?
Is it right we need to patch hboot ?
is it possibel to load an other bootloader? (grub or somthing else)
I know many questions, but im faszinated of the idea "dual boot on my desire"
Greatings
meinbier

This would be a nice, becouse there is some apps that newer will be on android, and there is people that need this apps.
Dont tell me buy win mobile phone, becouse I get droid from my company. I m not programer, so I cant help on that way. I can only tell that i will donate some money to someone who make native winmobile app install / run on android via emulation or custom rom for desire.
Tnx for your time and i support this thread.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

im really interested in this as well ,i have just got a htc desire hd and would love to run both wp7 and android ,wp7 for xbox live is this any new info on this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UE-LVuudEk&feature=player_embedded
So its possible on the DHD!
Maybe on the old Desire too.

AFAIK the Desire's internal memory is not large enough for dual boot... I mean some ROMs have trouble fitting on the partitions now so what do you think would happen with 2 ROMs lol.. you'd have no space for apps... and if you did somehow manage to run a ROM from your SDCARD like you can with legendary devices like the touch pro where you run haret.exe from the phone which boots android - it would be very slow and impractical. So I doubt we will ever see this happen.
EDIT: Guess I was wrong! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325

[Q] ReactOS ARM port on Rhodium?

Ok, so...
At first I found a ReactOS offical ARM port.
It is here(delete spaces, forum still prevents me from inserting any link): htt p:/ /ww w. rea cto s.or g/wik i/ARM_ Port
At second I don't understand it at all so if anyone are good in this type of thing, tell us is it possible to have it working UNDER HARET?
And finaly at third If yes, is it will be possible to run any applications excluding a orginals one?
And that's all
P.S. There is already a topic here(ht tp:/ /foru m.xd a-deve lopers.co m/sho wthre ad.php?t =791800 ) but it is quite old and not for our device.

Ew, why would you want React on your phone...?

i'd say ehm.. for the heck of it?
don't really think there is a point tho in rOS, both windows that comes natively and android have a massive userbase and for a 'full OS' there is already someone building linux version of Ubuntu.
beside that, the React OS makes use of 'windows' binaries (from what i read on their website.) which are in x86 format as far as i believe, running them on an ARM processor isn't likely to work.
if i'm incorrect please correct me

Not really, all the binaries were written by ReactOS Team and they are open source... So in practise we can compile it and have it running on ARM processor.
And why? Simply. If all the dll's and files can run exe files we should be able to run normal applications like firefox, flash, etc. Maybe not at maxiumum speed(because of alpha build of ReactOS) but still it can be quite useful.
I didn't managed to build it. As far as I read it is imposible beacause of compiler which doesn't compile it correctly, or at all.
If anyone have any ideas how to do it tell us...
P.S. The full source of ReactOS + additional appliactions included is avaible at ReactOS main page.

Well ReactOS to my knowledge doesn't run that well on x86 machines, so I doubt our tired old phones will run it very well...
Rhodbuntu isn't good enough...? I'd say that's your best hope - in theory it will run FF & flash...

ReactOS of course is not the faster system ever but it it a only(actualy) operation system that is in open source and have a fully rewritten binaries, etc.
And BTW you still can't have a flash and Java(SE) running on armel(rhodbuntu)

mafiu95 said:
ReactOS of course is not the faster system ever but it it a only(actualy) operation system that is in open source and have a fully rewritten binaries, etc.
And BTW you still can't have a flash and Java(SE) running on armel(rhodbuntu)
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Ah didn't realize. What makes you think it'll work on React? lol

Theres a possibility. But as I test the recent version out, there are problems with it, so I dont think its a good idea to port. There are issues from clicking to how things are displayed to windows sticking & not listening to me when I click close or minimize/maximize.