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Android on Universal

Android is a new open source mobile operating system that Google developed and an SDK has just been made available.
It would be great to see this ported to the Universal if its possible.

I don't see why it would not run since the Universal can already run Linux (to some extent) and Android is just based on that. Whether and to what extent the hardware can be supported is another question that only our programmers can answer. As we can surely count HTC out on supporting their legacy devices it might not be worth anybodies time in the end.

SDK for Android would not help at all. It is just a set of headers and import libraries. To port something to a device you need complete source codes of its kernel, software, etc. Even more - we don't know hardware requirements for Android. It may require the NOR flash to run from it - and we don't have it on our device at all.

mamaich said:
Even more - we don't know hardware requirements for Android. It may require the NOR flash to run from it - and we don't have it on our device at all.
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Nobody uses NOR these days, it's too expensive and provides no real
benefit over NAND. The XIP days are over.
I hate java with passion, but i don't see any reason why Android software
will not be running on the universal.

Any news? I mean: can Universal run an Android ROM?
I saw something on tytnII, is there an hope?

can anyone confirm if android requires a customised hardware or minimum requirements....

By The Looks Of It I Shouldnt See Why Not...
I Saw That Video Of It On The Tytn And It Looks Like Its Just A Linux Based Kernel Booting Though Haret.
Theirs Already Some Pretty Good Progress With Linux On The UNI And I Dont See Why It Shouldnt Be Possible To Patch This Up. (Wish I Could But Im Not A Linux Coder )

maybe something like this
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could be done for univ.

Getting A Replacement
I Get My Replacement XDA Exec On Monday Hopefully So Ill See If I Can Do Anything. No Promises Though
Regards,
OllieD

It looks promising but I am also awaiting the Ubuntu Mobile edition for PCC: it looks awesome!

if it has to run java bytecode
hi a .CAB solution should be possible. tis my prefered choice at present. KVM with class jar anyone??

any news ?

Kaiser can run Android, any ROM for Uni?
In this thread we have Android ported in to a Kaiser, hope someone is working on an Android ROM for UNI!!
It looks very nice the interface
Does anyone knows more info about this?
Thanks
Gracias

Any news on Android for Uni?
I've been trying to get it to work on my ELFin too, but i gave up when i only managed to get the Linwizard running without startx... (i dont know how to telnet and startx -.-)

Any news on this?
I'm thinking of getting a universal but i'm gathering info on it atm!

Has anyone been able to get some real progress on this matter?

I installed this onto my main memory, but when I run it I get a blank screen and the phone vibrates continuously, what am I doing wrong? I think this version is supposed to work on the Universal.

hye !
i also tried to install android on my universal, but it didn't work at all, i only had a black sreen and it vibrate without stopping. if someone has an idea, or a new thread were we can find out a running android os for uni... i take it !

Very keen on this
Is there a project? .. I'm a developer and would be willing to assist, but i haven't got enough experience with these devices to start the project off myself...

Count me in as a beta tester
It would be great to have Android on Uni!!
So this news means that very soon developers can start working on android to be ported on other devices!!!
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/

[PRJ][OS]Linux and Android on HTC Diamond "NOT YET WORKING"

This thread discusses Linux for HTC Diamond and HTC Raphael
User resources
To get started with android real quick use this site http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelDonut
Further information on progress with Linux and Android and help can be found at the Raphael Linux wiki page.
Developer resources
The wiki of the htc-linux.org project has all the required uptodate research information http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki
If you want to contribute in the kernel porting project, please use this wiki.
The latest kernel code for Raphael, Diamond (and the other msm7xxxA devices) can be found in the htc-msm-2.6.27 branch of the linuxtogo.org git repository.
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Hi,
Would be nice if somebody could try and test if the kaiser linux kernel boots on their diamond. Here's what you need
http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/
It has a small documentation but here's what you need to do again:
Get haret.exe, default.txt, zImage and angstrom-console on your diamond into the same folder, run haret.exe and tap run.
edit: the link above points to a website with kernel builds for the kaiser (msm7200). since diamond has msm7201A, it would be better to build directly from the android-msm-2.6.25 branch which has the halibut machine type. halibut is also an msm7x00A. there are some differences between the A and non-A msms.
google git is at
git.android.com
checkout the branch android-msm-2.6.25 ( it's most uptodate)
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I have in fact been researching this since yesterday. The vanilla Android is for 7x00A devices, and should work on Diamond without too much fuss. I'm not a Linux developer though, so I'll need some help with that part. (though I am a developer)
The Kaiser boot kit does not work. Once it's done loading the device freezes entirely. Kaiser uses 7200 though, not 7201A, and for all I know it might actually be (partly somewhat) running, but with no frame buffer.

agreed with the freezing part.

From Haret:
WinCE reports memory size 134217728 (phys=118571008 store=115261440)
Where did the rest 64 MByte go?

Ok who's seriously interested in getting this to work?
Whats the progress so far? Lets try to get something packaged and up for diamond.

me
I am definately going to spend some time trying to gets this to work when I get my Diamond.

teddyen66 said:
I am definately going to spend some time trying to gets this to work when I get my Diamond.
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I haven't been able to compile the kernel, but it sounds like you'll be able to. Give it a shot and I'll test it.

I'll test it too.

k, can you also try the vogue builds? http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DiamondResearch
the shared memory looks similar to the on on kaiser. So it will probably be easy to make communication with the phone work as soon as it works on kaiser. Of course you need to be able to boot first

Hi guys,
I've been trying to get Android running on my Diamond for a few days to no avail.
I've tried the Kaiser set of files and Vogue set of files. The furthest I've got is to make it display the 'Go Go Go...' message and then it hangs.
Has anyone actually got Android to run on a Diamond before?
Thanks.

Vogue does not work, but might be because of HaRET, don't know.
7201A is different from 7200. I would not expect it to work. However, the vanilla kernel is for Diamond type chips, so if anyone could compile a vanilla kernel it's worth testing. HaRET might need a few modifications though.

Very interesting!
This Android thing, getting it to run, what would the expectations be? Functionality, speed?
Just very curious, having once installed some linux-thingy on my magician.

I don't have a Diamond to test on, but I suspect the dev team for the Advantage could be of help. The build they have is running ok on Advantage, the touchscreen driver even works. No phone yet (last I checked). Maybe it will also run on Diamond?

nopes advantage is a different platform

I believe it'll just be a matter of time before we get a fully functioning Android build for the HTC Diamond because I can foresee it to be a very popular platform for the Android.
If there's any modifications to the default.txt boot file that would potentially make this work I'll be happy to try it out and let you guys know the results.

happyguy82 said:
I believe it'll just be a matter of time before we get a fully functioning Android build for the HTC Diamond because I can foresee it to be a very popular platform for the Android.
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I hope that too . I can not wait to run Android on my Diamond.

I guess it'd be a matter of setting up a cross compile (toolchains - chroot, binutils, gcc, glibc) environment for the ARM, compiling the kernel with the correct drivers and bootstrapping for the ARM.
Am I right? Or did I miss something?

Would this link be of any help ?
http://nemustech.blogspot.com/2007/12/android-porting-to-real-target-hw.html
I would like to get involved if someone is already working on it

Darn that's running smooth ...
... hope we can get some linux running on this hardware.

adwinp said:
I guess it'd be a matter of setting up a cross compile (toolchains - chroot, binutils, gcc, glibc) environment for the ARM, compiling the kernel with the correct drivers and bootstrapping for the ARM.
Am I right? Or did I miss something?
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Well, kinda. Where do you intend to get "correct drivers" for Diamond
Its not that easy, since HTC doesnt provide 'em

Android OS Released

Not sure where to post this... but now that the Android OS source is realsed, what is needed to compile a native version for Hermes?
http://source.android.com/download

MrCeddy said:
Not sure where to post this... but now that the Android OS source is realsed, what is needed to compain a native version for Hermes?
http://source.android.com/download
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Already on kaiser, maybe can be ported:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782

Keep in mind this is the official OS which was released today.

Its been noted that its not that easy.
1) the CPU in the Hermes is a older ARM that doesn't support all the needed instructions.
2) We couldnt "port it", it would need to be recompiled for the Hermes's older ARM, and that would be HARD.
3) We would then need Storage/wifi/touchscreen/ect ect drivers, and someone would need to write them, theres not going to be a device with the same chipset as the Hermes to steal the drivers off, like there is for the Kaiser.
So, unless you know a lot about writing drivers/recomplieing linux, tisnt going to happen

veyka said:
Its been noted that its not that easy.
1) the CPU in the Hermes is a older ARM that doesn't support all the needed instructions.
2) We couldnt "port it", it would need to be recompiled for the Hermes's older ARM, and that would be HARD.
3) We would then need Storage/wifi/touchscreen/ect ect drivers, and someone would need to write them, theres not going to be a device with the same chipset as the Hermes to steal the drivers off, like there is for the Kaiser.
So, unless you know a lot about writing drivers/recomplieing linux, tisnt going to happen
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Thanks for your input!

So, are you planning to fiddle with the idea??

joshkoss said:
Already on kaiser, maybe can be ported:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
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so somebody wrote the drivers for kaiser ??
Originally Posted by veyka
Its been noted that its not that easy.
1) the CPU in the Hermes is a older ARM that doesn't support all the needed instructions.
2) We couldnt "port it", it would need to be recompiled for the Hermes's older ARM, and that would be HARD.
3) We would then need Storage/wifi/touchscreen/ect ect drivers, and someone would need to write them, theres not going to be a device with the same chipset as the Hermes to steal the drivers off, like there is for the Kaiser.
So, unless you know a lot about writing drivers/recomplieing linux, tisnt going to happen
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if somebody did manage to get it working in kaiser, it can be done for hermes ?
don't we already have working linux ports for hermes? can't the drivers be pulled from there ?

[W O R K I N G] Kaiser-Buntu - Ubuntu on the HTC Kaiser (!UPDATED w/DL-links!)

Hello everyone,
I am happy to inform all those folks who waited for a full Linux operating system on the HTC Kaiser PDA that today a little bit modified version of Zubuntu finally booted successfully on my HTC Kaiser.
It is a really in the alpha-state but it works, let's see what do we have:
TouchScreen: works perfectly with calibration
Screen: looks good. but programs doesn't support Kaiser's small resolution. You can fix this by using INTERPOLATION, but this makes picture quality a lot worse. To try it out edit the default.txt, find the mddi.height and mddi.weight values and change to for example 480 and 360.
Keyboard: works exactly as expected, some fine tuning with the keyboard map will be done
ScreenRotating
Not tested/not working:
WiFi (MY #1 ISSUE, TRYING TO FIX): I extracted the wifi section from an Android rootfs, successfully modprobed wlan.ko, dmesg shows that the driver is loaded OK, but:
Code:
iwconfig
tiwlan0: no wireless extensions
ifconfig tiwlan0 up
ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCDIFADDR): Can't assign requested address
TI's WLAN_LOADER program didn't work either, so now I am moving to the other driver (wl12xx)
Bluetooth (Driver is there, no BT programs installed, couldn't test it)
3G
Cameras
Phone (NO dialer, nothing, however perhaps gsm-libs can help us firing it up)
Many many thanks goes for all these people form the #htc-linux IRC channel: randomblame, Markinus, ali1234, Ondalf and bombenbach for their outstanding support and help!
I would like to say thank you especially to phh for his awesome help and patience with me!
Click on the image for more pictures!
Stay tuned for: hopefully working WiFi, screnshots, YouTube-demonstration.
If you are interested, want to say thank you, want to help, or have an idea how to fix some things please write into this topic.
Also if you like my work, please consider a little a donation for me
After all, I am pretty sure now you want to try this on your own too, so here is the link for the Google-Code website. Download all the files and read the Wiki to know what to do.
http://code.google.com/p/kaiser-buntu/http://code.google.com/p/kaiser-buntu/
Link to RootFS:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ANRC94ON
Mirror (thanks to jmcbrother):
http://rapidshare.com/files/371631240/ubuntu_rootfs.rar
Mirror #2 (thanks to hoatienii):
http://www.mediafire.com/?uvytadoykyy
Want to be updated? Check out the project's Twitter page!
http://www.twitter.com/kaiserbuntu
Thank you,
DOMy

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great work . please upload link to test

Sweet that is great news! I can't wait to try it out!

Me wants the alfa link
This is so great!
Maybe we can find a solution at my hackersspace.

Great Work... Luv Linux.... Ported Android on Windows Mobile Device... Eager to port Ubuntu on Kaiser...
can you please share the Linux Beta link ...

Makes me almost wanna install Ubuntu on my PC.

Dukenukemx said:
Makes me almost wanna install Ubuntu on my PC.
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oh……thank you……I wanna test……wait ……

Would it be destructive to flash it to nand at this point in the project?

I wouldn't count on it even remotely fitting on the NAND. Besides, you'll probably have to have half the apps on an SD card anyway...

how about a build that will work with the new nomorootfs installers so hose of us like me can try it without going back to winmo, Would like to install to ext2.img files or sdcard partitions.
And is this remotely close to the MER Linux build that progress seems to be halted on I was able to get it to work

working XWindow?

I wouldn't recommend installing it to NAND (it doesn't work so good, for example I didn't have time to test power/suspend).
Xwindows works perfectly (except the resolution issue).
DOMy

resolution issue. can you please explain that? (whats wrong in resolution) before i flash back to ,WM and try it

Michga said:
resolution issue. can you please explain that? (whats wrong in resolution) before i flash back to ,WM and try it
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The problem is that the rootfs is not for the Kaiser and the Xserver uses some hardcoded resolution (that means there is no config file for it) so circa half of the windows are too big for the screen. It is not a big problem because you can move them around so it is easy to get to one of the corners and resize them so you can see the whole thing at once.
Fixing this is on my To-Do list

sorry for the dumb question but...
will this support phone???
no mention in the OP.
I assume no. (for now anyway)

mnjm9b said:
sorry for the dumb question but...
will this support phone???
no mention in the OP.
I assume no. (for now anyway)
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Driver support is there, but AFAIK no frontend yet.
DOMy
mod: I found this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/comm/gsm-utils and this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man8/gsmctl.8.html perhaps I will try it later (or someone can try it and report)

This intrigues me muchly, but why ubuntu/debian based?
There are other, (and imho simpler), bases to build on, slackware springs to mind, and there are some tiny distros out there, which may also be worth looking at, to say nothing of the likes of Familiar, an interesting candidate for a non-android htc-linux.

[Q] ReactOS ARM port on Rhodium?

Ok, so...
At first I found a ReactOS offical ARM port.
It is here(delete spaces, forum still prevents me from inserting any link): htt p:/ /ww w. rea cto s.or g/wik i/ARM_ Port
At second I don't understand it at all so if anyone are good in this type of thing, tell us is it possible to have it working UNDER HARET?
And finaly at third If yes, is it will be possible to run any applications excluding a orginals one?
And that's all
P.S. There is already a topic here(ht tp:/ /foru m.xd a-deve lopers.co m/sho wthre ad.php?t =791800 ) but it is quite old and not for our device.

Ew, why would you want React on your phone...?

i'd say ehm.. for the heck of it?
don't really think there is a point tho in rOS, both windows that comes natively and android have a massive userbase and for a 'full OS' there is already someone building linux version of Ubuntu.
beside that, the React OS makes use of 'windows' binaries (from what i read on their website.) which are in x86 format as far as i believe, running them on an ARM processor isn't likely to work.
if i'm incorrect please correct me

Not really, all the binaries were written by ReactOS Team and they are open source... So in practise we can compile it and have it running on ARM processor.
And why? Simply. If all the dll's and files can run exe files we should be able to run normal applications like firefox, flash, etc. Maybe not at maxiumum speed(because of alpha build of ReactOS) but still it can be quite useful.
I didn't managed to build it. As far as I read it is imposible beacause of compiler which doesn't compile it correctly, or at all.
If anyone have any ideas how to do it tell us...
P.S. The full source of ReactOS + additional appliactions included is avaible at ReactOS main page.

Well ReactOS to my knowledge doesn't run that well on x86 machines, so I doubt our tired old phones will run it very well...
Rhodbuntu isn't good enough...? I'd say that's your best hope - in theory it will run FF & flash...

ReactOS of course is not the faster system ever but it it a only(actualy) operation system that is in open source and have a fully rewritten binaries, etc.
And BTW you still can't have a flash and Java(SE) running on armel(rhodbuntu)

mafiu95 said:
ReactOS of course is not the faster system ever but it it a only(actualy) operation system that is in open source and have a fully rewritten binaries, etc.
And BTW you still can't have a flash and Java(SE) running on armel(rhodbuntu)
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Ah didn't realize. What makes you think it'll work on React? lol

Theres a possibility. But as I test the recent version out, there are problems with it, so I dont think its a good idea to port. There are issues from clicking to how things are displayed to windows sticking & not listening to me when I click close or minimize/maximize.