Back from the Dark Side - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

My Vario II went dead on me (touch screen stopped working) about 6 weeks ago and I was so busy I didn't have time to put it in for repair (compounded by the need to downgrade to WM5 for warrenty purposes). I finished up using an old MDA phone (running WM5).
Around the same time, I got a Blackberry from my office and started using that for business purposes. And I grew to like it. Don't get me wrong, I always knew that it was a brain-dead phone compared to WM devices but it was so simple to use and the trackball thing is so smooth that I was starting to get seduced by it.
But I got my phone back today, immediately upgraded to WM6 (Schap's V4) and installed my old software - and the Blackberry is back in my briefcase. WM6 is so customisable and tweakable that it leaves the rest behind.
Schap's ROM is great but I'm having two problems. I really like threaded SMS and I want to install Skype (mobile) on my phone - but neither CAB works (both CABs worked fine on all other ROMs). The device hangs when I try to install either app.
Also, button 5 is normally configured for voice dialling but Schap's ROM maps it onto new SMS. I can't see how to enable voice dialling using button 5 (or any other button!).
Any ideas about either problem?
Bobby

Perform a soft reset, and then try to install the cabs... For the second issue, you can go to Start>Settings>Personal>Buttons and then choose the one you want for button 5....

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Phone Suite vs Phone alarm

It would seem lots of us like these type programs. Neither one seems to be working great with WM 6.0.
Here's my issues using latest beta of Phonealarm: loosing graphics on reset, sometimes the today plug in doesn't appear. Alarms seem to work and profiles seem to switch correctly.
Also just feels unstable.
Trying PhoneSuite from SBP. Starts fine and runs well. Like the photo dialer. Major issue: only one time based profile; can't see the current profile icon or change it if I click on the space where it is (though dropdown list appears); Caller ID doesnt work with incoming calls, but offers to send SMS to missed calls.
Anybody else having these type issues?
I have been messing with profile switchers and whatnot for sometime now. Typically haven't had too much trouble with Phonealarm...however I know what you mean when you say...just feels a bit unstable. Probably comes from using it long enough to have had some bad betas...so it just gives you that feeling...
I am trying the new Phone Suite from SPB...not bad, but it seems a bit limited as you have mentioned with the profiles. Plus, I am using Mobile Shell right now and you get messages, missed calls etc on the today "Now" screen, the only drawback with Mobile Shell or their new Phone Suite for that matter is they don't show you number of Voicemails, Phone alarm is the only one I have seen that does this. I do like Phone Suite's photo contacts integration...that is pretty cool...so I am still messing with it a bit. For a profile switcher...I am currently using PocketZenPhone v6.103 (doesn't have the missed call, SMS etc but that is what the Shell Now screen offers). This appears to be really nice so far. Lots of custimization, profiles switch quickly and you don't have to have a today plugin..you can have it just as in icon in the bottom toolbar.
Hey on another note. How is Black 2.5 running on your device? I have 2.0 on mine and love it, just recently lost my camera function for some reason and was thinking about flashing my device to 2.5 and hope it comes back.
Cheers,
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Cingular 8525
Black 2.0
oosing graphics on reset, sometimes the today plug in doesn't appear.
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It's a stupid bug in lots of WM phones, this happens occasionally on Black 2.0 and used to happen when i had a Prophet.
but there's a little workaround.. when the phone booted up and started to load the today screen, just quickly press the Windows hard key twice !
Im running phonealarm 1.6 beta 13 (build 134) and have experienced no instability or today screen troubles?!
I have had no problems with PA ever!? The latest beta (14 build 138) however is very unstable...but its a beta so doesnt reflect the final product!
did some more checking. they are up to 140 but its got issues too. 139 was reported to be more stable.
they are aware of the wm6 issues too. maybe 141 will fix it.
Black 2.5 with buzzing add on is running fine. I went up from vanilla (custel's) Black 2.0 and did not have any problems aside from PhoneAlarm.
i just use o2plus 2.3
profiles are there, meters, launcher with tabs, can customize profiles/wifi/bt at certain times etc.....
only 300kb footprint.
This one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281237
on my spv m3100 with lvsw 0423 wm6 and spb phone suite i don't get displayed the phone numbers of incoming callers i think its a bug with phone suite unfortunately
O2Plus won't load without O2 connect, is there a work around.
Only downside to O2plus vs Phone alarm for my purposes, is I like to be able to assign different or no sounds to emails/text alerts depending on the active profile. If I set the ringer to nil, (ie a silent profile) will that kill the email notification too? (I will check later but am going to be tied up for a while now
PS - Scrog, search for the 'amended' version i n fact, I seem to remember JJ posting it somewhere in the last week or two?
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Only downside to O2plus vs Phone alarm for my purposes, is I like to be able to assign different or no sounds to emails/text alerts depending on the active profile. If I set the ringer to nil, (ie a silent profile) will that kill the email notification too? (I will check later but am going to be tied up for a while now
PS - Scrog, search for the 'amended' version i n fact, I seem to remember JJ posting it somewhere in the last week or two?
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Try Pocket Zen Pro. I had issues getting this to work on my Softbank X01HT when it was Japanese WM5, but seems to work great on Black 2.0 / 2.5.
The today screen is pretty much only profiles + some time / operator information, but it is just as customizable as Phonealarm with regards to setting different sounds for different profiles, etc.
The "Today" element is very minimalistic which I actually like after I got used to it.
Actually, you can configure the "Today" element to be just a single line on your screen; i assigned a hardware button to change profiles and it is much easier to use than phonealarm in that respect.
http://www.pocketzenphone.net/PZPForum/index.php
what about Photo Contacts Pro 5?
did you try it?
it has some features PA dont have...
what say you?
Phone profiles pro
Had never heard of it.
Have currently dropped back to O2plus. Am going to try out Pocket Zen Phone, and then maybe PP Pro. Have you used it on WM6 (Black 2.5 in particular)
I like PhoneAlarm and never had problems with it except for some skins that allows direct WIFI on/off and are not compatible with the new connection manager (the Trinity one). Have tried the SPB app but it is useless for me cause it has only one time based profile and I use at least 3 time based profiles. PA has more options and is much more useful...comparing to SPB it use 2mb of storage PA use only 900kb of storage!
Regards,
Primoz
crazyC said:
Had never heard of it.
Have currently dropped back to O2plus. Am going to try out Pocket Zen Phone, and then maybe PP Pro. Have you used it on WM6 (Black 2.5 in particular)
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Yep, currently using it with Black 2.5 however, this is version 5, and not 5.02, which should be a little better (Photo Contacts Pro).
features wise, it has things that i prefer than the others.
I will give PA another chance although it doesn't deal "right" with "Reject calls and send SMS" or with the Profile based on User or Category.
PZP
Guys,
PZP does it for me.. VERY lightweight and all the different notifications per profile. See the website - zendrui dot free dot fr
- Arnie
(on WM5 and Black 2.0)
Scrog said:
O2Plus won't load without O2 connect, is there a work around.
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O2 plus worked fine for me without o2 connect installed. Previous versions wouldn't work but 2.3 doesn't seem to be dependent on o2 connect being installed anymore.
at10ti0n said:
on my spv m3100 with lvsw 0423 wm6 and spb phone suite i don't get displayed the phone numbers of incoming callers i think its a bug with phone suite unfortunately
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Spb Phone Suite v1.0 working perfect ;-)
Displayed the phone numbers, no problem
mateuszrac said:
Spb Phone Suite v1.0 working perfect ;-)
Displayed the phone numbers, no problem
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What device/os ROM are you using?

GSM/GPRS Crashing but Everything Else OK

I'm finding I tend to have to do a soft-rest on my MDAC III about once a day, because although the phone continues to function fine, the radio (i.e. the GPRS/phone, not the FM radio) crashes. All appears fine, the device still works and has a signal showing on the bar, but I won't get any incoming calls, I can't make outgoing ones, and when I look at Activesync, instead of saying "Exchange: Connected", it says "Exchange: Last synchronised at 10:48am", which I guess is when the thing crashed. It's very frustrating because the only way I realise this has happened is when I notice that I haven't had any e-mails for a while.
One thing I have noticed is, working in London, I use the tube, and on my normal tube journey the train goes above and below ground, so the signal frequently comes and goes. The times it shows me I lost my ActiveSync Exchange connection usually corresponds to these times, so I think it seems to be that the phone loses the signal, but then never picks it up again (even though the top bar shows it's got a signal).
I'm currently using a WM6 ROM (3.7), but I also had this with an earlier WM6 ROM and the original WM5 ROM.
Anyone else have problems like this?
Yep, had exactly the same thing with the SEA Dopod Rom, had to soft reset to get it working again. The problem seems to be more of an O/S thing as the radio update (2.95.90) didn't make a difference.
The worst I have seen it is on the Dopod Rom where I had to soft reset, I didn't have any issues with the O2 WWE rom (except that it was rubbish!). I am now on Tom's B&B 4 Rom which does have this issue but I am able to recover by simply restarting the phone side of things via the comm manager.
Its a bit annoying but I'm happy to live with it for now and I'm keeping my fingers crossesd that Tom can cobble together a 4.1 rom out of the Kaiser extract he's got his hands on.
Cheers
Alex
Yeah it's the SEA Dopod I'm running at the moment, and although I've always had this problem, it seems a lot worse with this ROM, and like you said, with the others I could just restart with Comm Manager.
I'm not a big fan of the B&B interface, so I guess I need to either roll back to WWE v3.5 or find an alternative v3.7

Artemis Vanilla 4.01 and Touch 4.01 issues

I have serious problems with Touch 4.01 and even Vanilla 4.01 reported as stable. It is fare away to be stable at all. Continuous freezing the mobile phone functionality. Telephone looks like everything is fine, but SMSes are not delivered and calls are in my voice mailbox. To find out the problem, I have downloaded Bepe's Artemis kitchen 2.1, what was (my feeling) the source of this ROM. And possibly recognized the problem. The Bepe issued two versions, second is fixed. But it seems that this Vanilla and Touch (4.01) has been generated by the first one. I have checked the size, date and time of OEMDrivers and they are different. Meschle, is it possible to generate your ROM by this fixed version? Thanks in advance.
josef.bilek said:
I have serious problems with Touch 4.01 and even Vanilla 4.01 reported as stable. It is fare away to be stable at all. Continuous freezing the mobile phone functionality. Telephone looks like everything is fine, but SMSes are not delivered and calls are in my voice mailbox. To find out the problem, I have downloaded Bepe's Artemis kitchen 2.1, what was (my feeling) the source of this ROM. And possibly recognized the problem. The Bepe issued two versions, second is fixed. But it seems that this Vanilla and Touch (4.01) has been generated by the first one. I have checked the size, date and time of OEMDrivers and they are different. Meschle, is it possible to generate your ROM by this fixed version? Thanks in advance.
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Hi, how long do u have such problems and who is ur mobile operator. according to ur name I suppose that u r from Czech Rep.
I'm asking b'cause during last weekend I had also problem with my phone which leaded to reflashing of my phone but it was problem of operator.
I'm by O2 and have O2 XDA Orbit. I wasn't able to get any sms or report of delivery, i could send them only. and now i have bit different problem, sometimes sms from me is delivered, is shown in phone but it is something what i sended already before and then it dissapears from phone reciever's phone.
Such serious problems with ROM are strange, b'cuause those ROMs are out more then month and as I know, nobody had the same problem as u. I'm using Touch 4.01 without cube from first day when it was published here with no problem. i'm not couting problem with memory leaking which is probably problem of wm6.1 rom in general then Touch 4.01.
No, I am not only one who referring this problem. Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375930
Correct, I am from CZ and using T-Mobile, but in roaming quite often. But it happens independently on network. Touch Full 4.01 was more or less horrible, Vanilla 4.01 is better, but still time to time is freezing the radio part. To avoid discussion about radios, I have tried last 3 versions with the same result (3.08,2.98,2.97). But I really believe that problem is with OEMDrivers in Bepe's Kitchen. What Bepe even highlighted, that these drivers in first version are for different type of phone. The most stable version, what I had, it was B&B4.2 for more than 1/2 year. But of course WM6.1 is much faster. It was my reason for upgrade.
ok, then i cannot help, this is up on guys which r cooking ROMs.
will cross my fingers for u to solve this problem. it is nice from guys that they provided new ROMs based od WM 6.1 two months earlier than Macro**** but such serious problem takes us back to prehistory, b'cause having phone with which u r scared to call b'cause of freezing has no point.
Same problem here, flashed a lot of different roms to my device but only having these freeze problems since touch 4.01.
Right now it's only once per week. But it's been much worse: reboot, lock after 30 secs, freeze 5 secs later, repeat. Had to reflash my device. (And i always flash twice with a new rom).
I hope the fix is as easy as just building the rom with a newer version kitchen.
same problem for me.
i am running 4.01 Touch with full cube, operator is orange netherlands.
sometimes i have to reset the phone 3 times a day, after that i get a whole lot of sms (normal) and the calls i missed.
going to try 4.02 now, hope that's one's better
doesnt matter what version do you use - but always flash twice(one by one) and make a hard reset after flashing. Result is - much more stable work.
@d3ton4tor
I'm on dutch orange too, but haven't had a problem with touch lite 4.01. I'm using touch vanilla 4.02 now and still no probs.. I've got a MDA Compact tho..
I never had any problems with 4.01, or any of the previous roms, but since using 4.02 i have had several lockups now, about once a week. So maybe i better reflash it again see if that cures it ?
It is interesting. I have made update for Touch Vanilla 4.02 and everything works perfect. Sometime the less is more. I would never go for all Cube staff, it is only the memory eater from my perspective. I have realized that I can remove from StartUp folder WiFi link (I have T-Mobile ARTE110 - WiFi missing) and it is better. Under more or less conditions above 20 MB and it is very valuable especially for navigation SW like iGO.
Try PagePool 8M
Try PagePool 8M.
Pagepool
My English is so bad.
Or try the 4.02 it works fine here in my HTC 3300 also t-mobile client ;-).
Flashed it yesterday and works fine no freeze or what ever, even gps and radio works fine.
Greetz THeM
Destinator n maps
hey i just installed destinator 7 on my o2 orbit it doesnt detect the map infact no map at all
can any1 help me with this???
Hi,
You need to ensure that the maps folder is included in the destinator apps folder. That is when your destinator would be able to detect the maps.
By the way can you share your Destinator 7 (Mumbai Map) with me ??
Regards,
kailash
I too have problems with the Touch 4.1 vanilla rom but my issues manifested themselves after I had been using the rom for a while without any problems. Now I run out of memory quicker when using PIE and have to reset a lot more. Also sometimes am unable to connect to GPRS/EDGE without a reset. I will be trying any new roms that come out but its becoming clear to me that I need to upgrade.

Probelm with WiFi

Hello there,
What I Have: Att 8525 Herm100
Rom: Att's Mobile 6
Everything is stock but the extended life battery
The problem I am having is when ever I try to activate my WiFi the phone doesn't do anything. I am not sure if there is a wifi card or not but that's want I want to know. I have tried everything from activating it in com manager to going into the settings and activating it manually and nothing happens it acts like I didn't even hit the button to activate it. Is there a wifi card in the phone or is it integrated on the motherboard in the phone. Note: I bought this phone off e-bay and the wifi never worked when I received the phone.
I am new here and if there is a post about this already I am sorry.
I hate it when that happens.
To begin, there were two ATT OEM WM6 roms relevant to the 8525 that I noticed deep in the bowels of XGA.
I chose the later file (higher revision numbers) I found it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Available Original Shipped WM6 ROM Versions
From comm manager when I click the tower button on within a second the spinning windoze icon shows something is happening. It then starts "sniffing" for my preset wifi connection (ATT supplied 2wire portal 802.11g).
Now, if yours does not show the spinning windoze working icon when you turn on wifi? There obviously is a problem. This could be software, or hardware related (duh). If there is no error message related to "wifi is not an option, unavailable, or screwed" then my first guess is there is something missing or damaged in the ROM update that was applied to your device. As far as I know all 8525 (herm100) were shipped with wm5. It had been mentioned in the volumes of xda that the first AT&T WM6 rom was a little buggy. Try the later released AT&T WM6 update.
It was a run file so no muss no fuss. Sync the phone run the update from the pc, three minutes later the phone is flashed to ATT WM6 professional.
You could take it to a ATT shop? But, I think that without a doubt they would hand it back and say you need a new phone with a 20 year contract and 3g data plan even Obama would blush at.
Try the hard reset. take a picture of the startup screens so you have the numbers and see if the wifi startup is working after the reset. If not then compare the numbers to the above mentioned roms. If the indications are you have the first issue of WM6 from ATT try flashing the second release. If that still fails then your device could indeed have a hardware problem.
The wifi is indeed built into the system and if that chip on the board is not working it could be a overly expensive problem. Possibly a shop has a working board they would swap out cheap? Otherwise, it is a fun phone you can keep notes on, run gps software if you have a bluetooth gps receiver and software like tomtom.
To be honest the wifi on my 8525 has been convenient when around the house to check the local weather radar when I hear a thunder outside, or browse headlines from the porcelain room or even leave messenger turned on incase a gamer friend is looking for someone to get shot up in a game.
I have used the live search voice thing to amaze the neighbors once. But, the limited range of wifi is a real drawback to how truly wonderful that addition could be.
HELP Please! Wi-Fi not working!!!
Hi to XDA all users !!!
MY Hermes - HTC TyTN [Herm200]
I bought HTC Hermes myself year ago.
there was flashed a WM5.0, I've just downloaded from here HARD SPL & WM6,1 (Custom) Flashed.
Wi-Fi will works on WM5.0.
Well here I am at 6.1 flashed and now is not working Wi-Fi. When i pressed Power ON - loading long and nothing happens.
Other methods are also tried on Commanager and Settings - but did not help.
What do I need to do my dear.
HELP!
Thank you for your attention!
Hi Nurk.
Since the wifi worked on wm5 but failed after the 6.1 flash. I would guess the problem is in the 6.1 components. You might start with contacting the kitchen rom you employed for WM6.1 thread and see if this has happened to others. Next step would be to check the radio rom version. I did see on xda an assortment of Radio roms.
If your not totally in love with the current rom you have flashed? Try another 6.1 or even a 6.5 and see whats poppin.
and what you have in HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName?
utak3r said:
and what you have in HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName?
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I have get this from registry:
HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName - {98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\TIACXWLN1

Tilt 2 Random Freeze with Keyboard

Hi All,
I looked thru 160 pages of searching with different keywords, and didnt find answer. I have the stock ATT rom, hard spl to add the 4.49 radio, have personalizer and Photo Contacts Pro 5.5 on it. Nothing else except to the two cab fixes to reduce ram useage.
The problem is at times when I get a txt msg and I hit reply the txt opens up and when I slide the phone to expose the keyboard to reply, the phone will freeze up, the cursor is still blinking to input but the buttons and the touch screen is not responsive, I have to hit the reset button on the side of the phone to regain control. Anyone else having this problem and is there a fix for this?
Check the hot fix on HTC's site
I have had the same issues and HTC recomended installing both hotfixes as they fix alot of other isses other than what is shown. I will let you know how they work as I am installing them now.
i have the att tilt 2 and tried to install the hotfix to stop my phone from freezing but when i tried to run the installer its said not compatible for this phone??? what is the deal?
kenyaata said:
i have the att tilt 2 and tried to install the hotfix to stop my phone from freezing but when i tried to run the installer its said not compatible for this phone??? what is the deal?
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Yep had the same problem when I tried to install the caller ID fix. the sms fix installed fine no issues there. I think the reason why it might have said its incompatible is because it might have been for the WinMo 6.1 not for the 6.5 version. I read somewhere (sorry who said it) that it checks against the loaded rom. and my feeling is the sms fix wasnt corrected in the 6.5 version but the caller id was, possibly. I have Tilt 2 from ATT and it has WinMo 6.5 on it stock, just hardspl-ed it to add the newest radio to it, which is 100x better then the stock version that came with the ATT rom.
The hotfixes only work on the stock ROM. Not sure if the fact that the OP changed the Hard SPL and the radio would prevent the hotfixes from installing. And the stock ROM for the Tilt 2 is WM 6.5, not 6.1.
I know the tilt 2 comes with 6.5 I stated that already but I tried the caller id fix before I hard spl when I had it only couple of days ago and still wouldnt update on the stock att rom with no tinkering.
The hotfixes will work on HardSpled phone as long as rom is original. I did mine when they first came out with no issues.
I also looked a little more closely at this, I installed the rom 1.86.401.0 that comes with the radio 4.49.25.14 and the date of this is new compared to the hotfixes, with that said would it be safe to assume the hot fix is already implimented? Cause ever since I dumped the ATT stock rom and add this htc original rom, and the tweaks I wanted to add, I have had no issues with the phone and have not installed the hotfixes except for the keyboard which seems to have come out after this rom update.
Any word on how we can get it to work on the phone with other roms?? or if I go back to th eoriginal will it work... I am basically stuck in limbo every time i go into sms now and i am about to drop kick the phone.

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