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i have upgraded to LVSW(2007/04/23) RUU_Hermes_WWE_3.30.0.1 and now work like hell

2 weeks ago i have upgraded to lvsw latest rom release and is the worst release (sorry for that m8).... manny apps doesn't work.... and even the last one before this was much better :|.... and any1 can help me how can i get back to the original orange rom... like when i buyed from the storage? thank u....

Hey, this is bull**** - can u specify which apps etc? I am using LVSW 20070423 from the first day of release and no problem...

This ROM is pretty damned good - so slow operation is probably something you've got installed.
To go back to your original orange ROM (PRESUMABLY wm5) you first need a copy of the original ROM, then follow Mrvanx's guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
maddogydog said:
2 weeks ago i have upgraded to lvsw latest rom release and is the worst release (sorry for that m8).... manny apps doesn't work.... and even the last one before this was much better :|.... and any1 can help me how can i get back to the original orange rom... like when i buyed from the storage? thank u....
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MaRaHoX said:
Hey, this is bull**** - can u specify which apps etc? I am using LVSW 20070423 from the first day of release and no problem...
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lol... i know is bull****... prob is when i m tryin to call ... i hear 2 sounds ... and that`s it ... and office give me this error "Program Not Recognised" .. anyway ... now i am with the previous of lvsw rom

Problem during a call I supposed in GSM part, which is indipendent on LVSW's ROM (maybe other causes - 3rd party app, bad A2DP mod etc.) - but primary try new RADIO ROM.
Office works me well - I just try it before a few secs (immediately after HR) and its ok?
I am using phone daily for hard work and no problems, you mentioned.
Some unstability was caused by wrong Page Pool, but I suppose, that it is not your case.

LVSW ROM is very good, I like it compared to others. Try installing a new radio and try a hard reset or reflash it.

Remember LVSW bundles the Radio along with his ROMs, could you please tell us your Radio version??

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Remember LVSW bundles the Radio along with his ROMs, could you please tell us your Radio version??
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@mrvanx, LVSW 20070423 is an OS-only distribution. He recommends that Hard-SPL-v7 and Radio 1.41.00.10 be installed beforehand (links provided). A deviation from his previous ROMs.
John

maddogydog said:
2 weeks ago i have upgraded to lvsw latest rom release and is the worst release (sorry for that m8).... manny apps doesn't work.... and even the last one before this was much better :|.... and any1 can help me how can i get back to the original orange rom... like when i buyed from the storage? thank u....
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What do you mean many apps doesn't work? All apps works on mine..IMO, LVSW's rom is the best. There must be something you didn't follow correctly or you installed some bull**** 3rd party apps. I am sorry if that offense you.

LSVW 423 is a great ROM - fast with all the bits I want and none of the bits I don't want, but I'm having issues with hanging on soft resets (about 10%) of the time as well as freezing and not able to resume from suspend. I have had these issues with most if not all the WM6 ROMs and can't figure it out.
Anyone else with similar issues?

Meanwhile orange have released a new WM5 AKU3.3 rom on their business site.

I've had no issues with LVSW 4/23 rom. I use the phone heavly during each day for the office and I never had experienced any issues. LVSV rom is the most stable in my opion. All apps are working as they should.
I only down graded my radio back to 1.40.30.00 cause of stability and the fact 1.41.xx.xx kept dropping my calls between 3G to Edge, not to mention weaker signal. Fact, 1.40.30.00 is I beleive the offical ATT radio release ATM (I might be wrong, something more official may be out).
Did you read the entire forum before flashing? As Johnburn mentioned, LVSW repackaged to OS only and given specific instructions to Hard-SPL-v7 and Radio before the OS only ROM due to issues on the his first post of the full package.

I think you're the only who has bad experience w/ LVSW release and you blamed it on the ROM. way to go.

khammo01 said:
LSVW 423 is a great ROM - fast with all the bits I want and none of the bits I don't want, but I'm having issues with hanging on soft resets (about 10%) of the time as well as freezing and not able to resume from suspend. I have had these issues with most if not all the WM6 ROMs and can't figure it out.
Anyone else with similar issues?
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yep exact same issue right here.
LOVE the roms, hate the fact that I keep freezing in suspend with all wm6 roms.
thought it was my phone till I flashed back to wm5, and its working perfectly again.

charbz said:
yep exact same issue right here.
LOVE the roms, hate the fact that I keep freezing in suspend with all wm6 roms.
thought it was my phone till I flashed back to wm5, and its working perfectly again.
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What do you have installed??? Also please note if installed programs are on the DEVICE or MEMORY CARD. What today items do you have??? And did you have cabs in the extended ROM??? All of these things will affect the device and could possibility cause it to lock up. Any whos I have no problems with WM6.

charbz said:
yep exact same issue right here.
LOVE the roms, hate the fact that I keep freezing in suspend with all wm6 roms.
thought it was my phone till I flashed back to wm5, and its working perfectly again.
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to fix the freezing go to:
start-> settings-> today-> items(tab)-> and set the today timeout to 12hr

stukes said:
What do you have installed??? Also please note if installed programs are on the DEVICE or MEMORY CARD. What today items do you have??? And did you have cabs in the extended ROM??? All of these things will affect the device and could possibility cause it to lock up. Any whos I have no problems with WM6.
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I always installed EVERYTHING on device memory. Nothing on storage card (even though it worked fine with Wm5 for anything other than Today apps).
I thought it was my applications so I went back to scratch. Even no apps installed and even with SD card removed, it fails to wake up from sleep if anything other than Exchange Activesync tried to use the radio while it was asleep.
Main culprits include IMAP mail sync and weather app syncing. You can verify this by setting sync interval to some ridiculously low value (every 5 minutes) and then watch a sitcom or something. It will be locked by the time it's over. (Hey, I just looked down and whaddya know, my phone is locked again).
There are some files laying around in extended ROM but They are not installed on hard reset. Are you saying they might be interfering nevertheless?
I hear rumors that LSVW 3/23 does not have this problem so I'm going to try that one last time. If I can't resolve it, I'm going back to WM5.

webpain said:
to fix the freezing go to:
start-> settings-> today-> items(tab)-> and set the today timeout to 12hr
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Hmm... seems an unlikely fix. Is this verified to work? What about just unchecking the Today timeout box altogether? I'll give it a try...
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I tried the Today timeout fix and it still locks up.

@khammo01
Good to see you have tried to isolate the problem. However you say that a fresh install also locks up. If this is true then the problem is deeper. Have you tried each Cooked ROM? I have and only by preference choose Black2.5. So far the only lock-up I have had came from a today plugin. WHich I should have put on the DEVICE instead of the CARD. At times the Active Sync appears to be sluggish but it is only right as it connects. Then all is well. Verify your download and try again.

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@khammo01
Good to see you have tried to isolate the problem. However you say that a fresh install also locks up. If this is true then the problem is deeper. Have you tried each Cooked ROM? I have and only by preference choose Black2.5. So far the only lock-up I have had came from a today plugin. WHich I should have put on the DEVICE instead of the CARD. At times the Active Sync appears to be sluggish but it is only right as it connects. Then all is well. Verify your download and try again.
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I have tried LSVW, Black 2.0, 2.5, Dutty, Custel, you name it. They all have the sleep error.
If I have IMAP or anything enabled that uses the radio when the device is asleep, I get lockups.
Basically I cannot enable anything useful. I'm going to try LSVW 3/23 (pretty much the only ROM I haven't tried) and if that doesn't work, I'm going back to WM5.

So we can bring on WM6 - but why?

Hi all
I just got myself sent a Hermes the other day and I was looking around here, my favourite XDA resource, for nifty things I could do with it. One thing that seems to be all the rage is upgrading to WM6. Now, I'm all in favour of upgrading and the amount of information and material here is, well, staggering. Overwhelming even. But, for all I read, I miss one critical thing: why do we upgrade to WM6? What does it give us that WM5 doesn't?
All I see, at the moment, is a swankier interface and a faster operation. But neither of those are big sellers in themselves and don't justify the bricking and incompatibility risks. So, what's the big appeal that I've missed? I guess I'm looking for an excuse to do this
Lastly, as I mentioned, there's almost too much information about all this. i can follow the guides and tools for installation but one thing will vex me if I was to upgrade - and that's which ROM to use. Now I'm certain every one of you has a favourite and so I'm not looking for a definitive recommendation, but what the hot ones that I should look into at the moment? As I see it, the "XDA Live" and "Black" see pretty popular..
Cheers!

Three reasons for me.
1. TomTom doesn't occassionally freeze
2. Easier to set as a modem
3. More responsive menus, button presses, etc
By the way WM6 is more like WM5 second edition rather than a brand new system.

wywywywy said:
Three reasons for me.
1. TomTom doesn't occassionally freeze
2. Easier to set as a modem
3. More responsive menus, button presses, etc
By the way WM6 is more like WM5 second edition rather than a brand new system.
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Pretty much says it all. I never soft reset anymore. More memory, faster than WM5, better tweaks, and has some things WM5 didn't cooked in to the ROM. As for the risk of bricking, that's an extremely low risk, very minimal actually, if you follow the guide and wiki.

and html email is not to be sneezed at.

Because we can!

Mobile Office 2k7 can read o2k7 native formats. You will never see this on WM5 unless some imgfs God with a lot of time on his/her hands ports it there....
Native SD card encryption is Huge. The A2DP stack is a thing of wonder too....

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Because we can!
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exactly!!!!!!!!

My softbank x01ht came with WM5 and the only upgrade I did was the radio upgrade to 1.40.
May be it is my luck, but my x01ht seems really stable in its original ROM version (WM5 aku 2), I have never hard reset and the machine seems really stable. So my need to upgrade to WM6 to avoid system hang is not really existing.
Also, I use a lot of BUILT-IN functions such as Push Email, Wifi and Chinese support (my x01ht was flashed with a Hong Kong version 838 pro ROM before sold to me). If ANY one of such functions is WORSE in WM6 than in WM5, than WM6 is a no no for me. I can't stand any frequent freeze of the x01ht because I now depend solely on it for my daily phone/PIM use. If I don't have it working 100% normal, then I will lose many important phone calls.

I see WM6 really as an evolution of WM5. In WM6, MS has fixed many bugs that were in WM5, for example:
- Crappy A2DP
- WiFi now supports WPA
- HTML email
- Faster and more stable
- I'm sure MS has updated little things here and there to make WM6 more telco-standards (GSM, etc.) compliant

Well, are you still using Windows 95 on your PC?
My reasons for upgrading have been for (in order of importance) the speed, bug fixes, better memory management, the X button actually closing the app not just minimising it, Office updates, better compatibility and usability in the new Internet Explorer, etc.
When I bought my TyTN I was shocked by how slowly it responded to user input compared to previous Pocket PCs I'd owned.
After the developments that started occurring here a few months ago, there really was no turning back. I upgraded and now the OS is quick and very responsive. WM6 has been a godsend. The phone application also doesn't take 3-4 seconds to load when I press the call button to answer a call like it used to!
WM6 also has a much more polished look to it I think.

hold on, TomTom still freezes on mine with WM6 !
I still love it though (tomtom that is and wm6)
Let me know if this is solved will ya ?
ta
bb

I did it simply because WM5 was a little unstable and I love experimenting / playing with stuff like this.
A side benefit which I didn't know I would get is the LVSW version that I installed allows WPA2 & WPA2-PSK authentication on the Wi-Fi. That meant I could run my Hermes at the same security as my network and didn't have to modify my wireless router and other PCs.
There's probably still a few other good reasons that haven't been mentioned in this thread yet.
Cheers, Oggy.

Bug fixing, more speed,...
With WM5 I had issues like the phone applicatoin reacted too slowy on an incomming call. so i missed the call. Or sometimes it even didn't ring.
WM6 works in that point.

bingobob said:
hold on, TomTom still freezes on mine with WM6 !
I still love it though (tomtom that is and wm6)
Let me know if this is solved will ya ?
ta
bb
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Did you install TomTom 6.03??? As of that version I never had freezes anymore...

I to have tomtom lockup and sloooooowwwww to get map directions. Please I miss my fast tomtom 6. I am using 6.03. I wonder if i did something wrong. I never had this problem with wm5.

What about support?
One benefit of wm6 is that the hackers, tweakers, rom cookers, and random slackers such as myself keep this hermes wm6 forum active (albeit sometimes unforgiving to newcomers). If you have a question about wm6 on a hermes, it is probably already answered here. Can as much be said for the wm5 forums?

Just works
Personally I was about to ditch my TyTN. The default OS was infuriatingly slow, buggy, and had me resetting several times per day. If I hadn't stumbled upon XDA-develoopers and started flashing WM6, I would probably be a Nokia user again... WM6 just works. I've flashed maybe 10 different versions now, also the radio, and it's completely worth it. No big risk of bricking if you do your homework first.

F*SH said:
... faster operation. But neither of those are big sellers in themselves and don't justify the bricking and incompatibility risks. So, what's the big appeal that I've missed?
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I don't think anyone with half a brain has bricked their phone doing an OS only upgrade (especially if they read the wiki etc etc)... and you answered your own question... who doesnt want a faster device?

LazPL said:
Personally I was about to ditch my TyTN. The default OS was infuriatingly slow, buggy, and had me resetting several times per day. If I hadn't stumbled upon XDA-develoopers and started flashing WM6, I would probably be a Nokia user again... WM6 just works. I've flashed maybe 10 different versions now, also the radio, and it's completely worth it. No big risk of bricking if you do your homework first.
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I feel the same way as LazPL in that I was about to stop using the phone.
What I hated most about WM5 was a lack of real integration between the phone and contacts funtions, eg.:
. If you chose a call from the recent call list you could not access the contact directly (eg. if you just tried calling someone on their fixed line and wanted to try their mobile, you could not just click on the recent call you just made and select a different type of number, you had to select the name again from the list). In WM6 you can do this
. If you saved an unknown number from your recent call list it would automatically create a new contact, instead of giving you the option to save it in an existing contact (and choosing what type of number it was) or creating a new contact. In WM6 you can.
For me these 2 were just basic everyday usability features that I can find in the cheapest phones, and totally unacceptable to be missing in a €600 device. On the basis of these 2 alone, upgrading to WM6 was worth it.
In addition, my original Orange ROM had some bugs that were just pathetic (although these could have been cured with a newer ROM, or perhaps were due to the original radio ROM - which I also upgraded - and not the OS):
. Calls to busy numbers started blaring the busy tone through the loudspeaker (very loud)
. Trying to answer a call waiting would freeze the phone and require a soft reset
Hope that helps.

Pastings WIFI keys!!!
I've not been able to paste a wifi key in my WM05 ROM somone told me it was security...
rubish i think M$ to implement the copy/paste code.
Modem -> Bluetooth PAN is HUGELY more stable, my connection used to drop all the time in modem mode, i can now sit for 2 hours on my laptop at coffee shops and surf the web, whithout paying silly 1 day WIFI pass prices!

Black Shadow IV Problem

Hey guys,
First post on the forum, so I hope I don't offend/irritate with my dumbass questions,
I successfully flashed to the Black Shadow IV rom yesterday. I installed all th e helpful cab files to restore my settings to the orange standard and got the skdcert fix for the voicemail quirk. All seems (seemed) to be running smoothly but I then stumble upon a problem.
I have found that I am resetting the device more than I should due to the fact that whenever I try to make a call, 5 times out of 10 the phone just crashes, all the buttons freeze up and the touch screen doesn't respond. On the odd occassion the buttons freeze but the screen still responds butr there's no way to drop the call. It just wont have it.
I upgraded to the Black IV shadow rom, but did not upgrade the radio which was out of the box at version 1.38.00.01. Could this be the root of the problem? I am running SPL- 2.10 Olipro.
Any ideas guys, you're the experts, I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut.
Thanks in advance.
Gav

The 1.38 radio is pretty stable. However, if you are in the US, you might want to try upgrading it to the 1.40 radio which is AT&T optimized.

That ROM was released and is supported here: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-hermes/

Same happend to me too, I used Black Shadow IV for a week and now removed it, It is not stable.
My Jasjam hangs all the time and when conncting to PC.
Regards

Yeah, same. I used it for 3 days or so and crashed frequently. No additional programs installed either. BAD ROM

i've had nothing but a good experience with Shadow IV. ::shrug:: seems stable enough to me. it's never locked up on me and i've never had to reset except when i chose to to clear out the old memory once in a while.
as i mentioned in another thread, i have not installed any spb apps since they seem to have problems w/ WM6. i've had problems on a couple of different ROMs w/ the Spb apps.
could it be something that you've got installed and not the ROM itself? i had to do a little process of elimiation by installing basically one or two apps a day and seeing how it ran. things started going badly when the Spb apps were on there (Mobiel Shell, Time, Weather, Diary) so I haven't reinstalled them.
anyway, it could be something other than the ROM that is causing the instability.
regards,
mark

having multiple problems as well. cannot send text messages on cingular even after trying multiple fixes, frequent slowdowns, have had to soft reset at least once daily and also having problems with random lockups when charging. Going to reflash another rom.

having multiple problems as well. cannot send text messages on cingular even after trying multiple fixes, frequent slowdowns, have had to soft reset at least once daily and also having problems with random lockups when charging. Going to reflash another rom.

Am on Orange UK, and after running Black shadow for a while now I would rate it as the most stable ROM I have used. Admittedly I have only dabbled with some of the others, but have not felt the need to do more as am happy with what I have.
I did have an issue with SPB weather that others did not seem to have, but after romoving it, everything seems to be running fine. I soft reset every few days etc but I am happy with that.
Tis a bit strong to write BAD ROM with such certainty based on an individual experience, given that it works well for so many. Perhaps "This ROM did not work well for me" would be better.
Just a thought.

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The 1.38 radio is pretty stable. However, if you are in the US, you might want to try upgrading it to the 1.40 radio which is AT&T optimized.
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May be it is the radio rom, I have now installed radio 1.38 then Black Shadow IV and will try it for a few days and see how it works.

Also crash
Also crash and then back to Black 3.5 rom is Stable!

Still the same even with Radio 1.38, Crash when connected to PC and deep sleep in standby.

Use to have same problems while running CE-Star. Virtually permanently freezing on making/receiving calls, sending SMS and simple operations with the device.
After manualy setting chinese character set (thanks to XDA-Devs WIKI ) the ROM is extremely stable. Even trying to "destroy" the system with multiple operations (calls, internet browsing, sync, installing new soft, etc.) do not freezes it - very stable.
Suspect in your case you are using software which makes some changes to the system, consequently destabilizes the ROM

marttin said:
Use to have same problems while running CE-Star. Virtually permanently freezing on making/receiving calls, sending SMS and simple operations with the device.
After manualy setting chinese character set (thanks to XDA-Devs WIKI ) the ROM is extremely stable. Even trying to "destroy" the system with multiple operations (calls, internet browsing, sync, installing new soft, etc.) do not freezes it - very stable.
Suspect in your case you are using software which makes some changes to the system, consequently destabilizes the ROM
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Hi,i am runing Black 3.0.1 and ce-star,like ou said freezing ,and my problem is when i use CE-STAR keyboard,it is Freezing too.where i can find the setting chinese charscter set?
thanks

Been running Black Shadow for 5 days, alongwith Radio 1.43, without any problem...

I've been running Black Shadow on T-mo US w/1.43 rom and I've had no problems.

I have been running Black Shadow since it was released and no problems so far.

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Hi,i am runing Black 3.0.1 and ce-star,like ou said freezing ,and my problem is when i use CE-STAR keyboard,it is Freezing too.where i can find the setting chinese charscter set?
thanks
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Use WIKI and SEARCH funstion
You can go first to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and click on Hermes. After that use SEARCH function with keyword "chinese". Should get the following page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweak_Language_Chinese
I am using for few days Black Shadow with 1.43 Radio, able to read Chinese Characters thanks to the described in WIKI method and no problems. Personaly I installed A4 input method as it serves me at best. I didn't change the registry manualy, but used the cab, it works perfect. Simply follow the instructions.
The only issue is that when serving internet with IE Chinese sites do not apear properly. Suppose it is needed additional fixing of the fonts in IE. Do not have time at present to explore the issue, but suppose to deal with it next week. In case you find a solution for IE please share the method on this thread-- Thanks
PS. Have tested Micrsoft Input -- simply do not works. Causes a lot of problems and destroys totaly the standard inputs

All,
I have been running this ROM for just under a week and the thing has been 100% solid - not a single problem.
I also agree with a previous statement in this thread, that to refer to the ROM as "BAD" based on a single attempt is somewhat unfair! Maybe it is this sort of thing that has forced some of the more senior Hermes developers away from this site and on to another location. Ever thought about it that way?
It is just my opinion, but we (all forum users) should do one of two things if we "chose" to use someone elses development. They are,
Acknowledge (privately or publically) the time and effort that has gone into producing something. The best way to do that is by constructive feedback even if the experience hasn't been as you expected
Say nothing if you can't make it constructive!
To place a one liner in a response with a "throw away" comment is about as useful to either the developer or the other forum users as.........well,..................no I won't go any further because it's not constructive
For the record - this version of the Black release has rectified a localised issue I was having with my WLAN that other version had not resolved.
If you chose to use it - great, join in. If not, equally great. Good luck with your chosen selection of ROM.
Rant end

marttin said:
Use WIKI and SEARCH funstion
You can go first to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and click on Hermes. After that use SEARCH function with keyword "chinese". Should get the following page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweak_Language_Chinese
I am using for few days Black Shadow with 1.43 Radio, able to read Chinese Characters thanks to the described in WIKI method and no problems. Personaly I installed A4 input method as it serves me at best. I didn't change the registry manualy, but used the cab, it works perfect. Simply follow the instructions.
The only issue is that when serving internet with IE Chinese sites do not apear properly. Suppose it is needed additional fixing of the fonts in IE. Do not have time at present to explore the issue, but suppose to deal with it next week. In case you find a solution for IE please share the method on this thread-- Thanks
PS. Have tested Micrsoft Input -- simply do not works. Causes a lot of problems and destroys totaly the standard inputs
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Tomtom s..l..o..w..! (Official Dopod ROM)

Has anyone else had any issues with Tomtom Navigator 6 since upgrading to WM6 (offical SEA ROM)?
Under my old buggy WM5 ROM, it was perfect. As part of the WM6 upgrade I reinstalled it, and not it is unusably slow. It takes about 5 seconds between screen refreshes etc... you miss your turns by the time they are announced.
Does anyone know the cause or fixes? I've done a forum search and the problem has been reported on a couple of threads, but no real solution.
Some initial questions:
Under WM6, are people using the GPS manager in system settings? Or just pointing TT6 at the COM port directly? (What should the baud rate be set to?)
Is tngpseng.exe still required (never been entirely sure what this does exactly)
Does running it from the storage card (SanDisk 4GB) cause any performance hit? (I'm hoping not as my device memory is full)
The other chance I made is upgrading to the latest Australian maps. (Sinsis v675?) Are these known to be worse performance wise?
Does anyone else have Hermes, WM6 (official), TTN6, latest Australia maps working? can you post your settings?
Any help greatly appreciated!

Zilch said:
Has anyone else had any issues with Tomtom Navigator 6 since upgrading to WM6 (offical SEA ROM)?
Under my old buggy WM5 ROM, it was perfect. As part of the WM6 upgrade I reinstalled it, and not it is unusably slow. It takes about 5 seconds between screen refreshes etc... you miss your turns by the time they are announced.
Does anyone know the cause or fixes? I've done a forum search and the problem has been reported on a couple of threads, but no real solution.
Some initial questions:
Under WM6, are people using the GPS manager in system settings? Or just pointing TT6 at the COM port directly? (What should the baud rate be set to?)
Is tngpseng.exe still required (never been entirely sure what this does exactly)
Does running it from the storage card (SanDisk 4GB) cause any performance hit? (I'm hoping not as my device memory is full)
The other chance I made is upgrading to the latest Australian maps. (Sinsis v675?) Are these known to be worse performance wise?
Does anyone else have Hermes, WM6 (official), TTN6, latest Australia maps working? can you post your settings?
Any help greatly appreciated!
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MrVanx's BT Receiver Setup
Works fine with me.
TT v6.201 (Build 7160)
OZ Map v675.1431

Zilch said:
Has anyone else had any issues with Tomtom Navigator 6 since upgrading to WM6 (offical SEA ROM)?
Under my old buggy WM5 ROM, it was perfect. As part of the WM6 upgrade I reinstalled it, and not it is unusably slow. It takes about 5 seconds between screen refreshes etc... you miss your turns by the time they are announced.
Does anyone know the cause or fixes? I've done a forum search and the problem has been reported on a couple of threads, but no real solution.
Some initial questions:
Under WM6, ....
Any help greatly appreciated!
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Not related to WM6 but have you checked the number of Points of Interest that TT6 is trying to display. I use TT6 and have noticed no problems with WM6 so far - but regardless of ROM I found that unless I turned off the POIs that TT6 slowed right down and kept freezing.
Regards

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Not related to WM6 but have you checked the number of Points of Interest that TT6 is trying to display. I use TT6 and have noticed no problems with WM6 so far - but regardless of ROM I found that unless I turned off the POIs that TT6 slowed right down and kept freezing.
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Thanks Tony. I've turned them all off except the speed/red-light cameras and it does seem to have helped. (I won't know 100% until I take it out in the car, but it seems much faster at home on my balcony!)
The strange thing is I many POIs enabled on the previous install under WM6/older maps. Maybe the newer map is larger or something.
Does anyone know if custom POIs are more performance intensive than the build in ones?

I've had some kind of issue with TomTom since upgrading from Black Dymond (first to Magik and now to Satin). On the first upgrade I had to reregister my unit with my account to get access to my plus content (device ID change).
Now, I intermittently get a warning that it cannot find some file. I can't replicate it reliably and haven't had a chance to note the missing file. I suspect it has something with how TomTom is accessing info on the card.
My problem only presents itself when shutting down, so it's not a real issue for me. If it was, like yours is, I would first try increasing your caches. If that doesn't work, try going into the TomTom manager console when synced with the computer and remove everything (program, maps, voices, etc.) from your device/card and then reinstall it (make sure you have your disk or a backup, plus your registration code). If it has anything to do with lost file links, this should solve it theoretically.
I suspect your issues are due to either caching or lost links in TomTom itself, or both.

Tomtom has some problems with some wm6 roms not all.
My experience:
It worked fine with black dymond. No slowdown. No Problem.
It was painfully slow with black majik
It was OK with VP3g's v2.0 but after I added HTC home plug it slowed down considerably
Currently I am running latest Black Satin and TomTom runs just fine, stable, superfast, no freezes. This time I am going to stay away from HTC home plug.

You do not have shut down all of the 'nice to haves' (POI's) in such unnecessary and draconian fashion, quote "have you checked the number of Points of Interest that TT6 is trying to display".
Like Quist, I beleive the build of the ROM is much more at issue.
From my observations - Dopod / Black Satin / Sleuth's and Black Dymond are not at a problem.
I have noted significant refresh delays when using Schaps and Black Majik.
Good luck.

I've never seen TomTom run as fast as it does on my phone with vp3G's 3.0 WM6 rom.
I'm running TomTom version 6.100 (8330)

Im using Schaps 3.57a with TT6. So fast. Cold boot around 10s to 20s. Thanks

Love the ROMS, but please help with this HARD-reset problem?

Hi guys -
Loving all the ROMS available here, breathed new life into my p3600i, i've tried maybe 10 different ROMs in the past days.
Too many, but only because everytime i settle on one, it dies on me. i install all the apps i want on it, use it for 24hours or so, then out of nowhere, phone sort of freezes (not responding), i get impatient, memory leak maybe, then do a soft-reset via the stylus.
What happens next is it reboots, and restarts as if i've just flahsed the ROM (i.e. a hard-reset)!!! Can anybody tell me why this keeps happening no matter which ROM i use?
very frustrating, please advise...
I'm really looking to settle on one and use for at least a few weeks/months!
Thanks in advance!

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Hi guys -
Loving all the ROMS available here, breathed new life into my p3600i, i've tried maybe 10 different ROMs in the past days.
Too many, but only because everytime i settle on one, it dies on me. i install all the apps i want on it, use it for 24hours or so, then out of nowhere, phone sort of freezes (not responding), i get impatient, memory leak maybe, then do a soft-reset via the stylus.
What happens next is it reboots, and restarts as if i've just flahsed the ROM (i.e. a hard-reset)!!! Can anybody tell me why this keeps happening no matter which ROM i use?
very frustrating, please advise...
I'm really looking to settle on one and use for at least a few weeks/months!
Thanks in advance!
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Try running a Rom WITHOUT installing your apps and see if you still have the problem. If not, then add one program at a time until you discover which program is causing the problem.

Thanks for the reply, it's happened to me again, t his time whilst syncying with my exchange server it hung after about 5mins downloading (usually takes no more than 3 mins - I know cause it's the 10th time i've had to do it). Essentially these are the list of CABS i install:
1) SPB Pocket Plus
2) SPB Keyboard
3) SPB Back-up (only recently so i don't have to re-install apps)
4) PocketMusic
5) TomTom (off SD Card)
I've nailed it down to times where i'm running a memory intensive app (TOMTOM or Syncing using Outlook) where I use the stylus and do a soft-reset as screen has frozen up.
After that boom it's as if i did a hard-reset and have to configure/re-install from scratch!
I'm confused/frustrated!

argh it's happened again! this time i was not even doing anything special!
Could it have anything to do with: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399779
> WARNING BEFORE FLASHING:
While most people have not had any problems, a small but consistent number have reported lockups with various ROMs, requiring either soft or hard resets, depending on the conflicting program.
Have backups of your data, and be prepared that something you install might break the ROM you have installed.
UPDATE: It seems like lockups are possible even with (practically) nothing installed - while they do seem to be less likely the less you install, apparently there does not seem to be any P3600i immune to this issue, whether full of programs or not. Note that the newer ROMs seem to be more stable
As much as I loved playing with the cooked ROMS, how do i go back to original HTC provided ROM?

i've not been able to download the official HTC ROM after putting in my phone's S/N. possibly because there were no p3600i ROMS listed so i had to go for a d810.
anyway, i'm now trying a WM6.0 ROM, will see how i go. for those that have been around long, was this ever an issue, i.e. p3600i users trying cooked WM6.1 ROMS with stability/hard-reset issues?

Unfortunately, I am using a standard P3600, so I cannot verify your issue. I just know how to diagnose simple things. I know that on my phone, added software is usually the issue.
I can verify TomTom runs fine on my phone, but I don't use the other 4. I do run SPB Mobile shell 2 and 3, and SPB Weather, without any problems.
Hopefully, somebody else can shed some light on this?
Good Luck gunnerxl

I can confirm the same issues, I have not found ONE cooked ROM that will let my p3600i last more than a month without a freeze of some type that requires a hard reset.
Search the forums for my posts on this, been here for ages trying every single ROM, all fail on my PDA.
I'm of the opinion that my PDA is actually faulty in the onboard RAM, because there are some seriously fine ROMs here and it would be close to impossible that all the ROMs end with the same fault.
All the ROM cookers here do a fantastic job, put in a great effort and I thank them.
Even the stock ROM for my PDA has failed me.
I have learned to use back ups and make sure I have all my contacts stored on 2 computers etc, to recover from a hard reset is no real issue to me, just an annoying glitch until I upgrade to the next PDA.
I have not been able to find a program that will functionally test the onboard RAM like what is available for an PC.
IMHO - if you can afford it, UPGRADE away from the p3600i, but this is CLEARLY a biased opinion.

try schaps WM6.0 ROM, been using for past 2 days without any hard-resets... it's possibly that our version of the p3600i's HAVE to use WM6.0, all the WM6.1/5 ROMS crashed out on me, i'll test with intensive usage for the next couple days and report back... hopefully no issues, any other WM6.0 ROMS available? I used the official list at top of this forum section...

gunnerxl said:
try schaps WM6.0 ROM, been using for past 2 days without any hard-resets... it's possibly that our version of the p3600i's HAVE to use WM6.0, all the WM6.1/5 ROMS crashed out on me, i'll test with intensive usage for the next couple days and report back... hopefully no issues, any other WM6.0 ROMS available? I used the official list at top of this forum section...
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I have tried Schaps, have tried them ALL as I previously stated.
All the ROMs available are the ones listed, there are no others that are known to WORK that have been supplied to THIS forum.

You won't get a custom ROM from here above WM6 for the P3600i that is stable. This is because HTC only supports up to WM6 on them. Why does this matter? A core component of any ROM you flash is the kernel for the phone. This is customised by HTC for the OS. I don't think any ROM 'cook' from here can provide real stability because the kernel doesn't support WM6 or above. For real stability someone has to modify the kernel file itself in the ROM.
So there are no stable 6.1's or 6.5's here. Me, stability is paramount, I'll stick with the official WM6 ROM.
The D810 official download of WM6 is the same one as for the P3600i. Indeed, you can only get it if you say your phone is a D810 on the Asia site.