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So we can bring on WM6 - but why?

Hi all
I just got myself sent a Hermes the other day and I was looking around here, my favourite XDA resource, for nifty things I could do with it. One thing that seems to be all the rage is upgrading to WM6. Now, I'm all in favour of upgrading and the amount of information and material here is, well, staggering. Overwhelming even. But, for all I read, I miss one critical thing: why do we upgrade to WM6? What does it give us that WM5 doesn't?
All I see, at the moment, is a swankier interface and a faster operation. But neither of those are big sellers in themselves and don't justify the bricking and incompatibility risks. So, what's the big appeal that I've missed? I guess I'm looking for an excuse to do this
Lastly, as I mentioned, there's almost too much information about all this. i can follow the guides and tools for installation but one thing will vex me if I was to upgrade - and that's which ROM to use. Now I'm certain every one of you has a favourite and so I'm not looking for a definitive recommendation, but what the hot ones that I should look into at the moment? As I see it, the "XDA Live" and "Black" see pretty popular..
Cheers!

Three reasons for me.
1. TomTom doesn't occassionally freeze
2. Easier to set as a modem
3. More responsive menus, button presses, etc
By the way WM6 is more like WM5 second edition rather than a brand new system.

wywywywy said:
Three reasons for me.
1. TomTom doesn't occassionally freeze
2. Easier to set as a modem
3. More responsive menus, button presses, etc
By the way WM6 is more like WM5 second edition rather than a brand new system.
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Pretty much says it all. I never soft reset anymore. More memory, faster than WM5, better tweaks, and has some things WM5 didn't cooked in to the ROM. As for the risk of bricking, that's an extremely low risk, very minimal actually, if you follow the guide and wiki.

and html email is not to be sneezed at.

Because we can!

Mobile Office 2k7 can read o2k7 native formats. You will never see this on WM5 unless some imgfs God with a lot of time on his/her hands ports it there....
Native SD card encryption is Huge. The A2DP stack is a thing of wonder too....

JasenR said:
Because we can!
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exactly!!!!!!!!

My softbank x01ht came with WM5 and the only upgrade I did was the radio upgrade to 1.40.
May be it is my luck, but my x01ht seems really stable in its original ROM version (WM5 aku 2), I have never hard reset and the machine seems really stable. So my need to upgrade to WM6 to avoid system hang is not really existing.
Also, I use a lot of BUILT-IN functions such as Push Email, Wifi and Chinese support (my x01ht was flashed with a Hong Kong version 838 pro ROM before sold to me). If ANY one of such functions is WORSE in WM6 than in WM5, than WM6 is a no no for me. I can't stand any frequent freeze of the x01ht because I now depend solely on it for my daily phone/PIM use. If I don't have it working 100% normal, then I will lose many important phone calls.

I see WM6 really as an evolution of WM5. In WM6, MS has fixed many bugs that were in WM5, for example:
- Crappy A2DP
- WiFi now supports WPA
- HTML email
- Faster and more stable
- I'm sure MS has updated little things here and there to make WM6 more telco-standards (GSM, etc.) compliant

Well, are you still using Windows 95 on your PC?
My reasons for upgrading have been for (in order of importance) the speed, bug fixes, better memory management, the X button actually closing the app not just minimising it, Office updates, better compatibility and usability in the new Internet Explorer, etc.
When I bought my TyTN I was shocked by how slowly it responded to user input compared to previous Pocket PCs I'd owned.
After the developments that started occurring here a few months ago, there really was no turning back. I upgraded and now the OS is quick and very responsive. WM6 has been a godsend. The phone application also doesn't take 3-4 seconds to load when I press the call button to answer a call like it used to!
WM6 also has a much more polished look to it I think.

hold on, TomTom still freezes on mine with WM6 !
I still love it though (tomtom that is and wm6)
Let me know if this is solved will ya ?
ta
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I did it simply because WM5 was a little unstable and I love experimenting / playing with stuff like this.
A side benefit which I didn't know I would get is the LVSW version that I installed allows WPA2 & WPA2-PSK authentication on the Wi-Fi. That meant I could run my Hermes at the same security as my network and didn't have to modify my wireless router and other PCs.
There's probably still a few other good reasons that haven't been mentioned in this thread yet.
Cheers, Oggy.

Bug fixing, more speed,...
With WM5 I had issues like the phone applicatoin reacted too slowy on an incomming call. so i missed the call. Or sometimes it even didn't ring.
WM6 works in that point.

bingobob said:
hold on, TomTom still freezes on mine with WM6 !
I still love it though (tomtom that is and wm6)
Let me know if this is solved will ya ?
ta
bb
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Did you install TomTom 6.03??? As of that version I never had freezes anymore...

I to have tomtom lockup and sloooooowwwww to get map directions. Please I miss my fast tomtom 6. I am using 6.03. I wonder if i did something wrong. I never had this problem with wm5.

What about support?
One benefit of wm6 is that the hackers, tweakers, rom cookers, and random slackers such as myself keep this hermes wm6 forum active (albeit sometimes unforgiving to newcomers). If you have a question about wm6 on a hermes, it is probably already answered here. Can as much be said for the wm5 forums?

Just works
Personally I was about to ditch my TyTN. The default OS was infuriatingly slow, buggy, and had me resetting several times per day. If I hadn't stumbled upon XDA-develoopers and started flashing WM6, I would probably be a Nokia user again... WM6 just works. I've flashed maybe 10 different versions now, also the radio, and it's completely worth it. No big risk of bricking if you do your homework first.

F*SH said:
... faster operation. But neither of those are big sellers in themselves and don't justify the bricking and incompatibility risks. So, what's the big appeal that I've missed?
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I don't think anyone with half a brain has bricked their phone doing an OS only upgrade (especially if they read the wiki etc etc)... and you answered your own question... who doesnt want a faster device?

LazPL said:
Personally I was about to ditch my TyTN. The default OS was infuriatingly slow, buggy, and had me resetting several times per day. If I hadn't stumbled upon XDA-develoopers and started flashing WM6, I would probably be a Nokia user again... WM6 just works. I've flashed maybe 10 different versions now, also the radio, and it's completely worth it. No big risk of bricking if you do your homework first.
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I feel the same way as LazPL in that I was about to stop using the phone.
What I hated most about WM5 was a lack of real integration between the phone and contacts funtions, eg.:
. If you chose a call from the recent call list you could not access the contact directly (eg. if you just tried calling someone on their fixed line and wanted to try their mobile, you could not just click on the recent call you just made and select a different type of number, you had to select the name again from the list). In WM6 you can do this
. If you saved an unknown number from your recent call list it would automatically create a new contact, instead of giving you the option to save it in an existing contact (and choosing what type of number it was) or creating a new contact. In WM6 you can.
For me these 2 were just basic everyday usability features that I can find in the cheapest phones, and totally unacceptable to be missing in a €600 device. On the basis of these 2 alone, upgrading to WM6 was worth it.
In addition, my original Orange ROM had some bugs that were just pathetic (although these could have been cured with a newer ROM, or perhaps were due to the original radio ROM - which I also upgraded - and not the OS):
. Calls to busy numbers started blaring the busy tone through the loudspeaker (very loud)
. Trying to answer a call waiting would freeze the phone and require a soft reset
Hope that helps.

Pastings WIFI keys!!!
I've not been able to paste a wifi key in my WM05 ROM somone told me it was security...
rubish i think M$ to implement the copy/paste code.
Modem -> Bluetooth PAN is HUGELY more stable, my connection used to drop all the time in modem mode, i can now sit for 2 hours on my laptop at coffee shops and surf the web, whithout paying silly 1 day WIFI pass prices!

Strange Majik Problems

Strange things are happening all day today, I had majik installed since friday. Today my bleutooth jsut turns of and I cant use the head-set. Then programs like messaging froze, I was able to close it, but still IE froze and stuff like that, any one else expirencing things like this ?

yozh said:
Strange things are happening all day today, I had majik installed since friday. Today my bleutooth jsut turns of and I cant use the head-set. Then programs like messaging froze, I was able to close it, but still IE froze and stuff like that, any one else expirencing things like this ?
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Ive been SRing all day! Mines been freezing on my telenav and sirius. Just started to do this today. Has been fine since Friday as well.

Yeah, same here. I have to do a SR every time I get in my car
Looks like I'll be installing something else on it...

I have been having IE problems connecting, Bluetooth not connecting, 3G freezing. Must be a bad day for Majik.

Well well I`m not alone on this, well vp3G here I come.

I am having this problem as well, what worse is that I am away from my PC for 32 days! on business in boston and all I have is a mac, even worse is that Igo keeps losing GPS whenever it shuts off Bluetooth, isn't there a registry hack that enables power-save on BT, I think I enabled that before and had a similar problem in WM5

spiritofseth said:
I am having this problem as well, what worse is that I am away from my PC for 32 days! on business in boston and all I have is a mac, even worse is that Igo keeps losing GPS whenever it shuts off Bluetooth, isn't there a registry hack that enables power-save on BT, I think I enabled that before and had a similar problem in WM5
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Oh man I feel for you. I`m not sure about pwersetting for b, but it would make sense to me.

Had many problems with Majik yesterday so I tried 3 other roms. Not one would give me 3G sitting here in my office as majik had done. Flashed back to Majik and is working very well. I guess vevery week reflash

People, the root of nearly 70% of problems stems from 3rd party apps and NOT the ROM......
suggest you guys test it out with no apps installed and you will see the ROM is solid.
anything with 'spb' in the title should be left at arms length.
Anything like phonealarm etc... that claim to support WM6 really are only going on beta testers...remember the releases we are using are VERY new

Had nothing spb installed. The biggest issue is the BT disconnecting all the time. And the phone frezing.

yozh said:
Had nothing spb installed. The biggest issue is the BT disconnecting all the time. And the phone frezing.
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Like i said, Hard Reset....then dry run it and youl probably see the difference.....3rd party software which is acting up can cause allsorts of weird problems.

yozh said:
Had nothing spb installed. The biggest issue is the BT disconnecting all the time. And the phone frezing.
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I've got 5 8525's running this Majik and only one has "freezing" issues... and he had these same issues with his Wizard. 2 POP3 email accounts being polled every 30 minutes, Exchange 2003 push and 140 plus reminders MIGHT have something to do with it <sigh>
Battery life is incredible, speed is great when one adjusts the glyphcache.
As with you, my biggest complaint is with the BT dropping the call to the device but then I can bring it back up… seems to happen mostly on my initial outgoing call….
Again, respect to the chefs, this is a bad ass ROM.
Peace, out.

Hi Guys
I have been running LVSW 20070423 since it was released. Yesterday i decided to give Majik a go. All i can say it is terribly slow. Even clean ROM without applicvations. Could only stand it for 30min and then i reflashed LVSW back. The other thing is default coulors, i could hardly see my screen when outside. Dialer is crap, i like native WM6 dialer when you can type a few letters and then hide the dialpad. In Majik there are 4 lines only and if you have a lot of contacts it is a real pain to scroll through.
No good for me at all.
Will stick with LVSW ROM until the official release.

I have installed, Sirius, Voice Commander, Adobe, Live Search, WLM 1400, and esmertec. I tweaked the performance myself and set up mms and MEdia net and ISP/WAP settings myself. After I reinstalled Majik I have had no problems. I think that those problems came from WLM and IE because of the IPhone owners taking up my bandwidth
Note....Everybody that had problems was the same day they released the IPhone and we are all on AT&T
Check it out
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/03/stingy_att_iphone_network_snafu/

Second Flash
I think I had a bad flash the first time around.
I reflashed yesterday and the speed problems have dissapeared.
I was waiting +/- 20 seconds for /windows to open using file explorer.
That's all gone now and the ROM is pretty nippy and stable so far for my application.
But I do feel that all the extras trying to mimic the "Touch" ROM will have an effect on the speed and maybe stability.
That's why is still flash a different ROM every week or so.
To date Sleuth seems to have the combo nearly right.
LVSW cooked up fantastic ROM's, but he seems to be playing with his ELF now. - a bummer for us Hermes users.

Majick slowishness
I've found that installing the video dialler (3 cab files) dramatically slows down the Majick rom. I thought I was imagining things so I hard reset and repeated the excersise a couple of times with the same effect.
I leave the video dialler off now. I can't think of a time that I've ever used it although I do obsess about having a feature on my phone that I can't use even though I never use it.
Although Majick is an excellent ROM I did find the current LSVW was a bit quicker. The HSDPA problem in this ROM meant that it was a no-goer for me though.
I'm not complaining you understand, I'm very grateful for all the work people have done to get me WM6 on my phone!

only problem i have with majic so far is that when I add the new internet 3G connection, my username and password never seems to get saved no matter after how long. i have tried to both soft reset and power off, but still the 3G username/password never gets saved. anyone have any ideas on this?

Lets get a head start on B&B 4.0 release issues

I have been thinking about this for a while so I will go ahead and get it started. We all know that Tom_Codon is currently working on V 4.0, and as always he will thoroughly test it before release. I thought maybe we could, as a community, come to a conclusion on the fixes for the upcoming rom.
We all know the problems such as
1. Dialerpad not working for redial( green button) different dialerpad fixed
2. Flashing issue that was resolved.
3 HTC plugin going to vibrate during appointments- not a rom problem but an issue
4. Weather for "your town"- not a rom problem but an htc server issue.
We need to get together a complete set list,if you will, of known issues so that these bugs can be worked out before the Rom hits "production".
PLEASE, dont turn this into a request thread. Lets make an effort as a community to help Tom, put out the best Rom of his ability.
I have talked with him recently and he feels that the Touchflo is working flawlessly, but this is going to be a completely new build, from a new version of windows 6. So there MUST be some test time
I think as a group we can pitch in and give some targets to look at, via our experiences with 3.7
On another note, many people have donated to Tom, but the truth of the matter is more have not. I understand that times are hard, for some, harder for others, but we should look at it like this, If Tom wasnt doing what he was doing, along with others like him(none have released anything as complex and mature as Toms) werent doing what they are doing, you would already be in the market for another ppc, some, like here in America, having to pay upwards of $550.00 like myself.
Some of us appreciate the hard work of others and are willing to cough up $ without much proding, while others just download and go. I myself am guilty of such actions, I mean I do have and have had a usenet account for about 3 years, and have used bit torrent since it was in command prompt days(bit commet anyone) but I do recognize hard work and a love for what one is doing, so please make Tom feel your appreciation, this guy is having to go way out of his way to do research for us, due to internet issues, so please donate to Tom's work. Drink one less caramel mociado,beer or coke for that matter and send some $.
Back on topic.
Please help by posting any known issues with 3.7 so 4.0 can be tested properly, Thanks.

I agree with 1 to 4 in the previous post, also, the dialer writes text in green, this is very hard to see and suggest changing to white text.
5. Dialer text changed to WHITE for easier reading

Another Issue
First of all Congrats to Tom for making the bes PPC a million times better.
I had some issues, besides the redial button some programs crash my machine, for example yahoo go 2 and others.
Also the machine sometimes restarts itself with programs like tomtom and google.
Thanks for all your hard work!!!!!

5 good point, I am sure that will or has been changed already
yahoo go... what others, lets try to make a thorough list

6. Inclusion of TouchFlo cab
(The dialpad was really a big issue in my friend's phone i upgraded, so had to go back to B&B 3.0)
Thanks for all ur great efforts Tom!

I fully agree with post 1.
The only thing that is not working for me is the camera.
Gpsphoto is not working for me. Gps is not turning on.
And the colors of dailpad. They are now green but difficult to read.
White is much better.
For the rest it runs perfect.
But please Tom take your time.
And guys the rom is for free so donate to Tom. Mobile Telco's have to pay Microsoft for this update. And we get this for free.
I haven't donated as well but i will this week.

There is a workaround for GPS Photo. Just change to main memory as storage. Then restart the camera and off you go Nasty thing is that you have to do this every time you want GPS photo. It's a ROM issue and has nothing to do with Tom

[email protected] said:
5 good point, I am sure that will or has been changed already
yahoo go... what others, lets try to make a thorough list
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Hi all,
my only (not so big) problem in B&B 3.7 that I wonder to be solved in the new version is the camera delay problem, when I push the button it takes about 3-4s for the camera to take te photo.
The other issue is pics destination folder. My old ROM saves the photos to \storage card\my docs\my picture, that was very nice, this new camera saves the photos to a specific folder, it's not a big problem, just annoying...
By the way the B&B 3.7 is the best rom what I've ever tried, so Tom, appreciate your work...

Hi!
I don't know if I'm the only one, but when I desactivate the WM5storage apps by clicking on "desactivate", it runs TOMTOM automaticaly!
It can be a bug...
@++
TraXer.

Taking a picture in 3.7 takes about 3 seconds.. Still can't fix that..

Wi-Fi issue
Hi @all,
the B&B 3.7 is the best ROM i ever had. Thanks to Tom.
I've an issue with the Wi-Fi start/stop.
I can start and stop Wi-Fi with the comm Manager but if I start Wi-Fi I could not stop Wi-Fi over the Wi-Fi icon on the Headerbar.
Normaly there is a link if you click on the icon [Turn on Wi-Fi] if its off and [Turn off Wi-Fi] if its on.
I have always [Turn on Wi-Fi]... also if its on and if i click, nothing effects.
I don't know if someone else solve this problem and if its a bug.
Cheers

[email protected],
First of all, i would like to express my eternal gratitude for tom who is doing a great work. People like you makes the community better and better.
I have another issue:
when using de X-Button, the rest of icons of the heather bar doesn't show properly. The signal power of the operator displays only left half and he volume icon doesn't show.

make a contact picture also does not work: not file is saved after shotting

Agree
I agree with you and i would like to donate to tom. But i need account information, i don´t use paypal.
However i have not been abel to use Tom´s 3.7 ROM at all. No problem flashing it but my sound on bouth, my HTC P3300 goes balistic (like if my botton was stock)..
This has happend everytime i tryid this ROM and i tryid it on my too. P3300 and my body´s too..
So i haven´t realy enjoyed the ROM at all.. just tryid it and shiftet to the new WW3.7 Original (which works flawless on my phones)
.... but still i would like to support the great work and research Tom is doing.. Please make it possible by posting som account information so i can transfer a donation to you Tom

i only tried 3.7 for a short time because i had the battery drain problem, and the redialing problem was getting on my nerves.
however, there were 2 problems (or 2 times the same) that i also have in v3.0 (german version):
wlan and gps connections cant be deactivated using the taskbar icon. the "bubble" always says "no connection".
for wlan, i use connection manager to disconnect. that works perfectly. to stop a gprs connection however, i have to switch to flight mode and back...so:
7. (or whatever) would be nice to have a more confortable way of disconnecting gprs than using flight mode...

to stop a gprs connection however, i have to switch to flight mode and back...so:
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I haved the same problem but after looking close all the app (like msn messenger) who use Gprs Data and with com manager you can stop it ^^

More problems, possibly unreported?
I have a couple of issues with 3.7, and I don't think I have read about them anywhere else.
Firstly, this may be a problem with the Comm manager. Sometimes I turn the phone to "off" in Comm. Manager, and then when I click again to turn it "On", nothing happens - the code lock keypad is supposed to show but nothing happens at all and I have to soft reset.
Secondly, after a soft reset, MSN contacts do not appear in the list when you login, and you must chage accounts to see them again
I also had the more common problems with green button and HTC home screen vibrate mode.
Also would it be possible for us to have Windows Update inlcuded in the ROM?
Excellent ROM though by the way! Will be donating very soon!!!
Tristan

morpheustfw said:
I haved the same problem but after looking close all the app (like msn messenger) who use Gprs Data and with com manager you can stop it ^^
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yeah, you are right. i just tested what you said, and indeed: the "Datenverbindung" button in comm manager (i got german version) will eventually light up when i switch to conn manager and a gprs connection is active. but it takes something between 3 and 10 seconds for that button to light up. that's why i never saw it.
but waiting for the button to light up then clicking it will indeed cancel the gprs connection. i am cool with that. thx for the hint.

Actually this started as a B&B 4.0 issues thread...
but i really would like to thank the person who open it because i had the opportunity to see all the bugs of previous versions in one place....
Thanks again...
Many thanks to Tom as well for his effort..
Looking forward for v 4.0

I believe we are on the right track, but I feel some of theres issues are problems do to the base OS..I will later update my most and include a pool to see where we stand as far as how may people are experiening these situation.

Some thoughts of the Official O2 WM6 ROM

Although the User Interface is not as good as B&B, But I like to keep it simple.
After hard reset:
Storage Total: 54.09 MB, In use: 6.33MB, Free: 47.76 MB
Program Total: 47.90MB, In use: 23.18 MB, Free: 24.72 MB
Pro:
Faster than WM5, programme switch speed, opening Windows folder is much more quicker than WM5. Battery looks last longer than WM5 (or might have a problem with the battery indication software, consumed 6% on standby over 7 hours.)
Con:
1, still has the Wireless connection problem that will not be able to disconnect WIFI throught Today's screen.
2, very irritating that MSN messenger has to download my MSN email contacts to the phone's contacts.
3, X-Button not available, the HTC X-Button 1.5 not working properly with this ROM, causing system crash.
4, First charge stucked at 88% and orange light, soft reset, back to 100% and green light.
Still testing.......
Edit: Pro: I like the new phone "contact" system. a new number can be added to my existing contact more easily. Also, the contact's total call time and number of calls is very impressive!
Edit: Neutral: MSN issue, updated on page 4.
Edit: Pro: you can add an unknow missed number to your existing contact.

Hmm - my experience on installing the new O2 UK WM6 ROM:
Con:
1) Noticeably slower than WM5 to do almost anything
2) Wasted a whole evening reinstalling and reconfiguring all my applications
3) No useful new functionality
Pro:
Nothing yet.

I installed it yesterday evening, after installing it, it seemed a bit slow. Now i got it all set up it is pretty fast and works allright. Only software I installed extra was spb diary.
Only thing i find annoying is that you can't disable wifi from the icon on the today screen. But there is a shortcut to the com manager on the o2 plug in so it makes up for it.
o2 rom has got some nice tools on the today screen like the profiles, meters, you can see the last call on the today screen also there is a today plug-in that shows the applications that are running, you can also end them from there. So its same as x-button. You can find it under the custom 02 today plug-in setting.
But still waiting to try out B&B4.0 with the touch flow.
Greetz,
Dushman.

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2, very irritating that MSN messenger has to download my MSN email contacts to the phone's contacts.
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any workaround for this ?

Can you tell me does your smart dialling work ? i ask because i have flashed this rom twice now and when i get the dialpad up there are no contacts in the top half, so i can't scroll through my contacts ! And all the smart dialling options are enabled by default.
Thanks....

anothe rthought of O2 WM6
Well, I before I went to bed aroudn midnight (UK time) I thought I check the O2 site and bingo the link is back there. 5 minutes download and 10 minutes later WM6 running on my XDA ORbit.
1- much much snappier. Opening folder, program, setting, contact, emails, explorer etc... has a whole lot new feel to it.
2- GPS works faultless with tomtom.
3- got rid of O2 phone skin and restored the OEM phone skin. Prettier and snappier.
4- I dont want the the x button to close application. I do keep few running such as email, explorer, contacts, and calendar. O2 provides a simple application to view/close running applications. I also, use Explorer 2007 which has the same functionality.
5- cannot close wifi from today screen. Minor inconvenience.
6- Office applications updated.
7- Explorer still works (LOL) and believe I tried Opera and other and I always go back to Explorer. It renders the screen better. Sure no tabs but I dont use them on my mobile, on my desktop yes.
8- Emailer you can now see html - a great boost for me as I need it (you can still block images if you wish) and very useful. Previosuly I use Qmail which I think is the best but lets give the emailer a chance.
9- I heavily use msn and voip and they work faultless (even when conncted to Activesync) I can still sue my wifi for voip.
10- battery comsumption seems to be the same. Battery Was 95% when went to bed (tested email,explorer, windows live etc...), 9:30 am it is still 88%.
11- I like the encryption facilities and finally I can encrypt my files on the storage card natively. Previously I used Cryptainer LE (free).
12- Internet sharing works (just make sure your connection is secure).
13- wireless security are all there as before (wpa-wpa2-wpa2-psk etc..).
thats it really. No major new things, just improvements and the OS definitely faster and less memory hungry.
Still testing it of course ...

Where's the terminal services client? Have they removed it? I've seen a seperate install for it somewehere.
Also, I assume I don't need the storage card fix from HTC for this?

Don't have anything new to add that hasn't been said already.........except that i don't like it. Been using B&B3.7 until last night. O2 WM6 seems like a step backwards from this ROM, not sure why.

terminal services
Terminal services gone and rightly so. What is the use of it on a phone without a keyboard and 320x240 screen (YMMV) ? Now, if I am using the king of phones (XDA Exec )with the best keyboard then I will miss it.
Well I have 2 GB sotrage and I am keeping an eye on it. Lets hope we dont need the fix ;-) (Of course I have backed up everyhting three times just in case.
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Where's the terminal services client? Have they removed it? I've seen a seperate install for it somewehere.
Also, I assume I don't need the storage card fix from HTC for this?
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The WM6 build from O2 contains the Sd card fix so no need to add this to the build. The issue with not being able to turn wifi off from today screen is in all WM6 builds not just Orbit.
Cheers
LB

oops silly me, forget my smart dialling problem, there is'nt one, just me being dumb. http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon11.gif
Red face
Ok im pleased with this new 02 rom now, but i will have to try the new B&B 4.0 when i comes out. can't wait for that.
I have noticed one very small odd thing though, when you go to select a new text message alert, there are 2 x dogbark, 2 x ding and 2 x alouette ?
otherwise fine....

Updated no problem, got the wifi problem from the today screen, also my bluetooth isnt working, anyone else got this problem?

Lazarou said:
Updated no problem, got the wifi problem from the today screen, also my bluetooth isnt working, anyone else got this problem?
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Yes I am afraid it is not possible to disablethe wifi from the today screen, you will have to use the comm manager.
What problems u have with bluetooth?
I have beentesting it, like sending files, images, headsets and no rpoblems at all.

redjupiter said:
Yes I am afraid it is not possible to disablethe wifi from the today screen, you will have to use the comm manager.
What problems u have with bluetooth?
I have beentesting it, like sending files, images, headsets and no rpoblems at all.
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thanks for replying but it seems to be fine now after a soft reset

Lazarou said:
thanks for replying but it seems to be fine now after a soft reset
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Just one thing, you probably know that, receiving files via bluetooth is disabled by default. You will have to enable it via the registry.
cheers

does anyone know how to turn off gprs

fei said:
does anyone know how to turn off gprs
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http://www.modaco.com/FREE-Utility-t246171.html

fei said:
does anyone know how to turn off gprs
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I never setup the GPRS, when it asks on first hardset screen, I always unticked the option. Though, I think you can turn it off by:
O2 Operator Settings--> tick the "i want to do auto configuration now", and scroll the underneath menu down, choose "remove all settings".--> click the top right "OK", done.

and to think that no one has mentioned abotu the new looking solitaire? are your priorities not right??? (just kidding )
Phone working great on WM6 for me - some real response improvments in places. TomTom working good from SD card too - new reinstall required there. Hell - I even like the 02 additional software for a change (like I did with WM5 on the orbit - unlike their today screen stuff on XDA2i....)
So that's at least 1 happy customer...
(and in fairness - their billing dept has been very helpful to me since a billing error - I really can't fault them there)

fei said:
does anyone know how to turn off gprs
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Press the Call 'End' (Red Color) for 3-5 Seconds and it Disconnects GPRS.

Looking for app to manage sound notifications

I've got a TP2 that I use for work and personal. I'm trying to find some way to automatically turn on the new email notification sound during the day but turn it off at night (so I don't hear it beep for new email at 4 am.) I need to keep the ringer and SMS notification on at all times for work. Anyone know of an app that will work?
Thanks,
Bill

PhoneAlarm will do what you need. Will have to use PAHost if your running 6.5
www.pocketmax.net

Phoneweaver from SBSH will also do what you are needing. it is not free but well worth the $
sbsh.net

I use SPB Phone Suite. There are many profiles that you can have automatically activate according what you are doing. I have one mutes everything and tones down the phone ring while I'm sleeping, and one for meetings according to a calendar entry, once for bluetooth etc etc

dalavar said:
PhoneAlarm will do what you need. Will have to use PAHost if your running 6.5
www.pocketmax.net
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It does not work on stock WM 6.5
No matter what you set,it still does not work. And there is no way to figure out how to activate the profile you just set...very stupid program,and it also complicates boot up on phone. It is unbelievable that is is created couple days ago,and is not fully compatible with 6.5
Also,when trying to set LED color,it also does not work. I removed it.

just set your email to not download during the night. im the same way i must have phone and text on at all times but my email only downloads between 7am and 9pm. no download no noise.

aleksandar0475 said:
It does not work on stock WM 6.5
No matter what you set,it still does not work. And there is no way to figure out how to activate the profile you just set...very stupid program,and it also complicates boot up on phone. It is unbelievable that is is created couple days ago,and is not fully compatible with 6.5
Also,when trying to set LED color,it also does not work. I removed it.
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No idea why you couldn't get it to work, but it works fine for me. The only glitch for me is a special setting needed to toggle Bluetooth on the TP2.
Auto switches between work, home, meetings, night and car. Great IMHO.

djyady said:
just set your email to not download during the night. im the same way i must have phone and text on at all times but my email only downloads between 7am and 9pm. no download no noise.
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Nice and simple. Just changed the ActiveSync schedule. Thanks for the idea.

I use Phone Alarm Pro on my Tilt without any issues at all. I use the today screen as I dont use TF3D. The Led's only have a few colors and I dont think they are changable on the TP2's.
You have to remember that the program is made to work with many different phones so all the features will not be the same on all the different phones.
I have used Phone alarm since my first Tytn. It is a must have. It was not created a few days ago but has evolved over the past 4-5 years.

aleksandar0475 said:
It does not work on stock WM 6.5
No matter what you set,it still does not work. And there is no way to figure out how to activate the profile you just set...very stupid program,and it also complicates boot up on phone. It is unbelievable that is is created couple days ago,and is not fully compatible with 6.5
Also,when trying to set LED color,it also does not work. I removed it.
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Sorry you can't get it to work for you but it works just fine on my Tilt 2 and has been since I bought the phone.