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Weird Skype Issue

Hi folks, I have a Qetk 9090, the rom is WWE 1.22 the Ext rom I don't remember but I it is not the latest one. Anyway
Before the 1.22 rom, I tried Skype on Wifi no problems everything went well, not if I receive a call or make one after 30 seconds the call crash, the Wifi seems to crash as well, if I stop it and restart it, the Wifi software won't work but the wifi light will blink... I need a soft reset to make it work, if I do the same test at thome calling my PC with my PPC, no problem... what is going on? Is that a Wifi Issue or Skype ?
Thanks

My XDA IIs has always done this. Skype know about this issue, and there is a thread here about it as well. They (skype) say that its the Blue Angel, not skype. It does not appear to be only the blue angel either.
Interestingly, for me it works if I stand next to my AP while using it. Hardly convienient!
Nigel

i use mine over bluetooth activesync on my xdaII (no wifi) and encounter the same problem.... only happens when i use skype though.

I have had major problems with Skype before version 1.1.0.6. This version doesn't have a problem on my IIs. As a matter of fact, I leave Skype and FWD on for more 48hrs without it crashing. I have had experinces with having Wisbar advance installed and random application would crash. These voip apps would not have the chance of being installed if I didn't have a wifi network.

I also have 1.1.0.6 but experience the same symptoms. I've read some skype-related issues on xda-dev and believe it could very well be the wifi's subpar quality.
Just now I tested a skype call sitting right next to the router - no problems at all. moved into the living room - other party reported distortions in my voice. moved further away, into my room - distortions worsened, until finally the wifi connection dropped to nearly "zero" (no curved lines around the wireless lan manager icon on Today screen). immediately following, connection totally terminated, and the pda's internet will not WORK at all, despite still showing status of "connected". only solution is a soft reset. :evil:
nomadman, did you find that the 1.40 ROM upgrade helped at all? as a last ditch effort, I will probably try migrating over to 1.40/1.12radio to see if things improve. ( see http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22429&highlight=skype )

kia do not upgrade the rom counting that it will increase the range of wifi or bt. i have not noticed any distance increase upgrading from 1.33 and the last radio version. i upgraded because i wanted to learn how to upgrade the rom. i can get 10 to 12 meters from my AP. thats with a hallow wall and a cement exterior walled home.

nomadman said:
kia do not upgrade the rom counting that it will increase the range of wifi or bt. i have not noticed any distance increase upgrading from 1.33 and the last radio version. i upgraded because i wanted to learn how to upgrade the rom. i can get 10 to 12 meters from my AP. thats with a hallow wall and a cement exterior walled home.
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Thanks for the warning. I seem to consistently get BAD reception from the router to my room, which is less than 8 meters away
I just confirmed that the Skype that comes with ROM 1.40 is 1.1.0.7... so I may just give THAT a go afterall as I'm all out of options..

Are you getting good distance with a desktop PC? I wasn't aware that Skype is included in any ROM. At least it wasn't included in my 1.40 upgrade.

good news to report: I finally took the plunge and upgraded to 1.40ROM, and my Skype via Wifi issues seemed to have dissappeared!
Very prelim info and will need further testing tonight at home, but just now at the office I was able to talk for over 8 minutes with NO disconnections. veletron and others who have this problem, this may just be the fix!!!
Skype is definitely included in 1.40, at least in the 1.40 I-mate rom that I upgraded to today. The version included is 1.1.0.7.

Great news m8. can you extract the 1.1.0.7 cab and upload it. the skype site only has 1.1.0.6 available for download.

Skype 1.1.0.7
Try here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_ROM_140176_WWE/Default_SkypeForPocketPC.CAB

Please post the version number and I will update the wiki page for that EXT Rom. Thanks

Thanks for pointing the right direction m8. Indeed this is Skype 1.1.0.7.

Anytime dude. Be sure to post your experiences with 1.1.0.7.

Black Shadow IV Problem

Hey guys,
First post on the forum, so I hope I don't offend/irritate with my dumbass questions,
I successfully flashed to the Black Shadow IV rom yesterday. I installed all th e helpful cab files to restore my settings to the orange standard and got the skdcert fix for the voicemail quirk. All seems (seemed) to be running smoothly but I then stumble upon a problem.
I have found that I am resetting the device more than I should due to the fact that whenever I try to make a call, 5 times out of 10 the phone just crashes, all the buttons freeze up and the touch screen doesn't respond. On the odd occassion the buttons freeze but the screen still responds butr there's no way to drop the call. It just wont have it.
I upgraded to the Black IV shadow rom, but did not upgrade the radio which was out of the box at version 1.38.00.01. Could this be the root of the problem? I am running SPL- 2.10 Olipro.
Any ideas guys, you're the experts, I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut.
Thanks in advance.
Gav

The 1.38 radio is pretty stable. However, if you are in the US, you might want to try upgrading it to the 1.40 radio which is AT&T optimized.

That ROM was released and is supported here: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-hermes/

Same happend to me too, I used Black Shadow IV for a week and now removed it, It is not stable.
My Jasjam hangs all the time and when conncting to PC.
Regards

Yeah, same. I used it for 3 days or so and crashed frequently. No additional programs installed either. BAD ROM

i've had nothing but a good experience with Shadow IV. ::shrug:: seems stable enough to me. it's never locked up on me and i've never had to reset except when i chose to to clear out the old memory once in a while.
as i mentioned in another thread, i have not installed any spb apps since they seem to have problems w/ WM6. i've had problems on a couple of different ROMs w/ the Spb apps.
could it be something that you've got installed and not the ROM itself? i had to do a little process of elimiation by installing basically one or two apps a day and seeing how it ran. things started going badly when the Spb apps were on there (Mobiel Shell, Time, Weather, Diary) so I haven't reinstalled them.
anyway, it could be something other than the ROM that is causing the instability.
regards,
mark

having multiple problems as well. cannot send text messages on cingular even after trying multiple fixes, frequent slowdowns, have had to soft reset at least once daily and also having problems with random lockups when charging. Going to reflash another rom.

having multiple problems as well. cannot send text messages on cingular even after trying multiple fixes, frequent slowdowns, have had to soft reset at least once daily and also having problems with random lockups when charging. Going to reflash another rom.

Am on Orange UK, and after running Black shadow for a while now I would rate it as the most stable ROM I have used. Admittedly I have only dabbled with some of the others, but have not felt the need to do more as am happy with what I have.
I did have an issue with SPB weather that others did not seem to have, but after romoving it, everything seems to be running fine. I soft reset every few days etc but I am happy with that.
Tis a bit strong to write BAD ROM with such certainty based on an individual experience, given that it works well for so many. Perhaps "This ROM did not work well for me" would be better.
Just a thought.

Sleuth255 said:
The 1.38 radio is pretty stable. However, if you are in the US, you might want to try upgrading it to the 1.40 radio which is AT&T optimized.
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May be it is the radio rom, I have now installed radio 1.38 then Black Shadow IV and will try it for a few days and see how it works.

Also crash
Also crash and then back to Black 3.5 rom is Stable!

Still the same even with Radio 1.38, Crash when connected to PC and deep sleep in standby.

Use to have same problems while running CE-Star. Virtually permanently freezing on making/receiving calls, sending SMS and simple operations with the device.
After manualy setting chinese character set (thanks to XDA-Devs WIKI ) the ROM is extremely stable. Even trying to "destroy" the system with multiple operations (calls, internet browsing, sync, installing new soft, etc.) do not freezes it - very stable.
Suspect in your case you are using software which makes some changes to the system, consequently destabilizes the ROM

marttin said:
Use to have same problems while running CE-Star. Virtually permanently freezing on making/receiving calls, sending SMS and simple operations with the device.
After manualy setting chinese character set (thanks to XDA-Devs WIKI ) the ROM is extremely stable. Even trying to "destroy" the system with multiple operations (calls, internet browsing, sync, installing new soft, etc.) do not freezes it - very stable.
Suspect in your case you are using software which makes some changes to the system, consequently destabilizes the ROM
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Hi,i am runing Black 3.0.1 and ce-star,like ou said freezing ,and my problem is when i use CE-STAR keyboard,it is Freezing too.where i can find the setting chinese charscter set?
thanks

Been running Black Shadow for 5 days, alongwith Radio 1.43, without any problem...

I've been running Black Shadow on T-mo US w/1.43 rom and I've had no problems.

I have been running Black Shadow since it was released and no problems so far.

chg1282002 said:
Hi,i am runing Black 3.0.1 and ce-star,like ou said freezing ,and my problem is when i use CE-STAR keyboard,it is Freezing too.where i can find the setting chinese charscter set?
thanks
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Use WIKI and SEARCH funstion
You can go first to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and click on Hermes. After that use SEARCH function with keyword "chinese". Should get the following page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweak_Language_Chinese
I am using for few days Black Shadow with 1.43 Radio, able to read Chinese Characters thanks to the described in WIKI method and no problems. Personaly I installed A4 input method as it serves me at best. I didn't change the registry manualy, but used the cab, it works perfect. Simply follow the instructions.
The only issue is that when serving internet with IE Chinese sites do not apear properly. Suppose it is needed additional fixing of the fonts in IE. Do not have time at present to explore the issue, but suppose to deal with it next week. In case you find a solution for IE please share the method on this thread-- Thanks
PS. Have tested Micrsoft Input -- simply do not works. Causes a lot of problems and destroys totaly the standard inputs

All,
I have been running this ROM for just under a week and the thing has been 100% solid - not a single problem.
I also agree with a previous statement in this thread, that to refer to the ROM as "BAD" based on a single attempt is somewhat unfair! Maybe it is this sort of thing that has forced some of the more senior Hermes developers away from this site and on to another location. Ever thought about it that way?
It is just my opinion, but we (all forum users) should do one of two things if we "chose" to use someone elses development. They are,
Acknowledge (privately or publically) the time and effort that has gone into producing something. The best way to do that is by constructive feedback even if the experience hasn't been as you expected
Say nothing if you can't make it constructive!
To place a one liner in a response with a "throw away" comment is about as useful to either the developer or the other forum users as.........well,..................no I won't go any further because it's not constructive
For the record - this version of the Black release has rectified a localised issue I was having with my WLAN that other version had not resolved.
If you chose to use it - great, join in. If not, equally great. Good luck with your chosen selection of ROM.
Rant end

marttin said:
Use WIKI and SEARCH funstion
You can go first to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and click on Hermes. After that use SEARCH function with keyword "chinese". Should get the following page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweak_Language_Chinese
I am using for few days Black Shadow with 1.43 Radio, able to read Chinese Characters thanks to the described in WIKI method and no problems. Personaly I installed A4 input method as it serves me at best. I didn't change the registry manualy, but used the cab, it works perfect. Simply follow the instructions.
The only issue is that when serving internet with IE Chinese sites do not apear properly. Suppose it is needed additional fixing of the fonts in IE. Do not have time at present to explore the issue, but suppose to deal with it next week. In case you find a solution for IE please share the method on this thread-- Thanks
PS. Have tested Micrsoft Input -- simply do not works. Causes a lot of problems and destroys totaly the standard inputs
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thanks a lot

Lets get a head start on B&B 4.0 release issues

I have been thinking about this for a while so I will go ahead and get it started. We all know that Tom_Codon is currently working on V 4.0, and as always he will thoroughly test it before release. I thought maybe we could, as a community, come to a conclusion on the fixes for the upcoming rom.
We all know the problems such as
1. Dialerpad not working for redial( green button) different dialerpad fixed
2. Flashing issue that was resolved.
3 HTC plugin going to vibrate during appointments- not a rom problem but an issue
4. Weather for "your town"- not a rom problem but an htc server issue.
We need to get together a complete set list,if you will, of known issues so that these bugs can be worked out before the Rom hits "production".
PLEASE, dont turn this into a request thread. Lets make an effort as a community to help Tom, put out the best Rom of his ability.
I have talked with him recently and he feels that the Touchflo is working flawlessly, but this is going to be a completely new build, from a new version of windows 6. So there MUST be some test time
I think as a group we can pitch in and give some targets to look at, via our experiences with 3.7
On another note, many people have donated to Tom, but the truth of the matter is more have not. I understand that times are hard, for some, harder for others, but we should look at it like this, If Tom wasnt doing what he was doing, along with others like him(none have released anything as complex and mature as Toms) werent doing what they are doing, you would already be in the market for another ppc, some, like here in America, having to pay upwards of $550.00 like myself.
Some of us appreciate the hard work of others and are willing to cough up $ without much proding, while others just download and go. I myself am guilty of such actions, I mean I do have and have had a usenet account for about 3 years, and have used bit torrent since it was in command prompt days(bit commet anyone) but I do recognize hard work and a love for what one is doing, so please make Tom feel your appreciation, this guy is having to go way out of his way to do research for us, due to internet issues, so please donate to Tom's work. Drink one less caramel mociado,beer or coke for that matter and send some $.
Back on topic.
Please help by posting any known issues with 3.7 so 4.0 can be tested properly, Thanks.

I agree with 1 to 4 in the previous post, also, the dialer writes text in green, this is very hard to see and suggest changing to white text.
5. Dialer text changed to WHITE for easier reading

Another Issue
First of all Congrats to Tom for making the bes PPC a million times better.
I had some issues, besides the redial button some programs crash my machine, for example yahoo go 2 and others.
Also the machine sometimes restarts itself with programs like tomtom and google.
Thanks for all your hard work!!!!!

5 good point, I am sure that will or has been changed already
yahoo go... what others, lets try to make a thorough list

6. Inclusion of TouchFlo cab
(The dialpad was really a big issue in my friend's phone i upgraded, so had to go back to B&B 3.0)
Thanks for all ur great efforts Tom!

I fully agree with post 1.
The only thing that is not working for me is the camera.
Gpsphoto is not working for me. Gps is not turning on.
And the colors of dailpad. They are now green but difficult to read.
White is much better.
For the rest it runs perfect.
But please Tom take your time.
And guys the rom is for free so donate to Tom. Mobile Telco's have to pay Microsoft for this update. And we get this for free.
I haven't donated as well but i will this week.

There is a workaround for GPS Photo. Just change to main memory as storage. Then restart the camera and off you go Nasty thing is that you have to do this every time you want GPS photo. It's a ROM issue and has nothing to do with Tom

[email protected] said:
5 good point, I am sure that will or has been changed already
yahoo go... what others, lets try to make a thorough list
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Hi all,
my only (not so big) problem in B&B 3.7 that I wonder to be solved in the new version is the camera delay problem, when I push the button it takes about 3-4s for the camera to take te photo.
The other issue is pics destination folder. My old ROM saves the photos to \storage card\my docs\my picture, that was very nice, this new camera saves the photos to a specific folder, it's not a big problem, just annoying...
By the way the B&B 3.7 is the best rom what I've ever tried, so Tom, appreciate your work...

Hi!
I don't know if I'm the only one, but when I desactivate the WM5storage apps by clicking on "desactivate", it runs TOMTOM automaticaly!
It can be a bug...
@++
TraXer.

Taking a picture in 3.7 takes about 3 seconds.. Still can't fix that..

Wi-Fi issue
Hi @all,
the B&B 3.7 is the best ROM i ever had. Thanks to Tom.
I've an issue with the Wi-Fi start/stop.
I can start and stop Wi-Fi with the comm Manager but if I start Wi-Fi I could not stop Wi-Fi over the Wi-Fi icon on the Headerbar.
Normaly there is a link if you click on the icon [Turn on Wi-Fi] if its off and [Turn off Wi-Fi] if its on.
I have always [Turn on Wi-Fi]... also if its on and if i click, nothing effects.
I don't know if someone else solve this problem and if its a bug.
Cheers

[email protected],
First of all, i would like to express my eternal gratitude for tom who is doing a great work. People like you makes the community better and better.
I have another issue:
when using de X-Button, the rest of icons of the heather bar doesn't show properly. The signal power of the operator displays only left half and he volume icon doesn't show.

make a contact picture also does not work: not file is saved after shotting

Agree
I agree with you and i would like to donate to tom. But i need account information, i don´t use paypal.
However i have not been abel to use Tom´s 3.7 ROM at all. No problem flashing it but my sound on bouth, my HTC P3300 goes balistic (like if my botton was stock)..
This has happend everytime i tryid this ROM and i tryid it on my too. P3300 and my body´s too..
So i haven´t realy enjoyed the ROM at all.. just tryid it and shiftet to the new WW3.7 Original (which works flawless on my phones)
.... but still i would like to support the great work and research Tom is doing.. Please make it possible by posting som account information so i can transfer a donation to you Tom

i only tried 3.7 for a short time because i had the battery drain problem, and the redialing problem was getting on my nerves.
however, there were 2 problems (or 2 times the same) that i also have in v3.0 (german version):
wlan and gps connections cant be deactivated using the taskbar icon. the "bubble" always says "no connection".
for wlan, i use connection manager to disconnect. that works perfectly. to stop a gprs connection however, i have to switch to flight mode and back...so:
7. (or whatever) would be nice to have a more confortable way of disconnecting gprs than using flight mode...

to stop a gprs connection however, i have to switch to flight mode and back...so:
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I haved the same problem but after looking close all the app (like msn messenger) who use Gprs Data and with com manager you can stop it ^^

More problems, possibly unreported?
I have a couple of issues with 3.7, and I don't think I have read about them anywhere else.
Firstly, this may be a problem with the Comm manager. Sometimes I turn the phone to "off" in Comm. Manager, and then when I click again to turn it "On", nothing happens - the code lock keypad is supposed to show but nothing happens at all and I have to soft reset.
Secondly, after a soft reset, MSN contacts do not appear in the list when you login, and you must chage accounts to see them again
I also had the more common problems with green button and HTC home screen vibrate mode.
Also would it be possible for us to have Windows Update inlcuded in the ROM?
Excellent ROM though by the way! Will be donating very soon!!!
Tristan

morpheustfw said:
I haved the same problem but after looking close all the app (like msn messenger) who use Gprs Data and with com manager you can stop it ^^
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yeah, you are right. i just tested what you said, and indeed: the "Datenverbindung" button in comm manager (i got german version) will eventually light up when i switch to conn manager and a gprs connection is active. but it takes something between 3 and 10 seconds for that button to light up. that's why i never saw it.
but waiting for the button to light up then clicking it will indeed cancel the gprs connection. i am cool with that. thx for the hint.

Actually this started as a B&B 4.0 issues thread...
but i really would like to thank the person who open it because i had the opportunity to see all the bugs of previous versions in one place....
Thanks again...
Many thanks to Tom as well for his effort..
Looking forward for v 4.0

I believe we are on the right track, but I feel some of theres issues are problems do to the base OS..I will later update my most and include a pool to see where we stand as far as how may people are experiening these situation.

GSM/GPRS Crashing but Everything Else OK

I'm finding I tend to have to do a soft-rest on my MDAC III about once a day, because although the phone continues to function fine, the radio (i.e. the GPRS/phone, not the FM radio) crashes. All appears fine, the device still works and has a signal showing on the bar, but I won't get any incoming calls, I can't make outgoing ones, and when I look at Activesync, instead of saying "Exchange: Connected", it says "Exchange: Last synchronised at 10:48am", which I guess is when the thing crashed. It's very frustrating because the only way I realise this has happened is when I notice that I haven't had any e-mails for a while.
One thing I have noticed is, working in London, I use the tube, and on my normal tube journey the train goes above and below ground, so the signal frequently comes and goes. The times it shows me I lost my ActiveSync Exchange connection usually corresponds to these times, so I think it seems to be that the phone loses the signal, but then never picks it up again (even though the top bar shows it's got a signal).
I'm currently using a WM6 ROM (3.7), but I also had this with an earlier WM6 ROM and the original WM5 ROM.
Anyone else have problems like this?

Yep, had exactly the same thing with the SEA Dopod Rom, had to soft reset to get it working again. The problem seems to be more of an O/S thing as the radio update (2.95.90) didn't make a difference.
The worst I have seen it is on the Dopod Rom where I had to soft reset, I didn't have any issues with the O2 WWE rom (except that it was rubbish!). I am now on Tom's B&B 4 Rom which does have this issue but I am able to recover by simply restarting the phone side of things via the comm manager.
Its a bit annoying but I'm happy to live with it for now and I'm keeping my fingers crossesd that Tom can cobble together a 4.1 rom out of the Kaiser extract he's got his hands on.
Cheers
Alex

Yeah it's the SEA Dopod I'm running at the moment, and although I've always had this problem, it seems a lot worse with this ROM, and like you said, with the others I could just restart with Comm Manager.
I'm not a big fan of the B&B interface, so I guess I need to either roll back to WWE v3.5 or find an alternative v3.7

New T-Mobile WM 6.5 COMPLETE FAIL (or may be not?)

IDK why, but since I have installed the new ROM released by T-Mobile, my phone is nothing but trouble. My text messages are really slow. Once I click the "All Messages" tab and I click on a conversation it needs 10 seconds to load it. Then if I try to go back, the phone freezes and the only way to unfreeze it is to soft reset it.
Then the Wi-Fi sharing doesnt work. I installed it but there is no trace of it in the whole phone.
The phone it self is slow. After a reset needs few mins (up to 10) to load that little quick menu that is located on the top right corner of the screen. No matter what I want to do it needs a sh*t load of time to do it.
It annoys the f*ck out of me, does someone else have the same problems with this ROM?
I apologize for the swears but I am really annoyed by this THING and I want to go back to the stock 6.1 or a cooked ROM.
BTW when I tried to download the HARDSPL from the forum, my anti-virus told me that there is a trojan in it.
P.S. I just saw that it doesnt show me the notification for new SMS, also I have the annoying (1) on the SMS icon in the HTC Sence. I know I can fix it with the fix that is given in the forum, im just saying... Is that a bug that should still be there? I am disappointed with WM, the 6.5 has more problems than the 6.1...

I've noticed when upgrading to vzw 6.5 my phone was slow too. I stuck with it for a couple days and gave up all hope. I'm now on MightyRom and occasionally load up SPB mobile shell. Mobile shell requires more frequent restarts (every other day). The mightyrom is mad stable and hasn't given me problems (you can't use mightyrom it is cdma only, I suggest pheonix or valkryie for you).
HardSPL is not a trojan if you download it from this site or ppc geeks, no need to worry on that end (i'm running business class vipre and malwarebytes professional).

I was running McAfee.
Can you give me a link for the HardSPL? Ill be looking for a cooked rom, but that will be when I am home. Anyway, Ill have another post in this topic soon, since I just did a hard reset and I want to see if it gives me the same problems, but so far is still slow and I don't give it much hope...

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I was running McAfee.
Can you give me a link for the HardSPL? Ill be looking for a cooked rom, but that will be when I am home. Anyway, Ill have another post in this topic soon, since I just did a hard reset and I want to see if it gives me the same problems, but so far is still slow and I don't give it much hope...
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you should install nopushinternet and ssk dynamic resource proxy cabs, those will help out immensely with some of that device lag. ( http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1295157&postcount=2 )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=232414&d=1254156455
Personally I don't like McAfee or any of those bundled suites that dell/hp/gateway/etc include. Kaspersky, Vipre, ESET, BitDefender are all better IMO.

Downloaded it. It showed improovement right away just like you said.
Also downloaded HardSPL, McAfee shows no trojans. I will look for the ROMs you recomended and ill get back to the topic soon.

I'm not getting the same problems with the 6.5 update. It might be the other programs that you're running in addition to the update. I don't get the Quick Menu delay. Wifi sharing has been working.

Hard-SPL has NO trojans! This has to do with how they packed the file. For some reason, security programs have issues with it. Just completely disable all your security for a little bit and install it, no trojan.

I have no problems with my 6.5 update. Maybe you should try hard reseting your phone or flashing the software again.
Seeing as it has been way over a month since this was released and beyond your load voice, there have been few if any complaints, I'm doubting this update was a complete fail. As such your topic heading is WRONG.
And tell us what steps you took in flashing the update, was it a success. How did you restore your data to the device? Is it possible that your restore of text messages corrupted the device somehow (faulty backup/restore software?).
Again, I would hard reset/reflash the device. Load no software or backups and see how your text messages are.

I upgraded to Tmo 6.5 the night I got my phone, so I can't comment on the 15 mins I used 6.1 for. But all I know is that after 6.5 it was like getting the phone all over again. Everything worked perfectly, then I started getting stuff off these forums. While 98% of all the cabs and apps work great, and work flawlessly on the system, there's been a handful that haven't. I've down the "Clear Storage" 5 times since yesterday b/c I think I have finally developed a plan..
All I can say is that the swype 3.9 keyboard totally killed my phone, had to do sys restore for that (twice b/c I thought it was something else before I read that thread) I've tried all the WiFi Sharing cabs, and the only one that works is AssasinsLament 'slotted' cabs. Just chose any number of those and it will show up in your start menu, however, never your CommManager. SoftKey manager doesn't work (or anything to change the softkeys b/c TF3d overrides it no matter what)
Why would I want no-push-internet? I always want my phone to be connected, or am I missing something? I don't use exchange, and its off in my CommMgr, do I still need a cab??
but yeah, I don't think this rom is FAIL, if anything, I hope they release 6.5.3 w/ Sense 2.5 if they aren't going to give us our WPS7..that would be nice. But yeah, back to my plan, I never want to use a cooked ROM, not that I don't trust anyone, but its just damn scary and don't want to miss out on any stock features, so I just created a directory on my PC HDD called "Good Roms" once I determine which work the best, they will be there, I'll do one final Clear Storage and get it rocking!

I actually agree with him. tmo 6.5 update felt like the device was running through mud. everything was slow, scrolling, loading programs etc. the memory usage was too high as well; why anyone would want 66% of their resources dedicated to running eye candy is beyond me. the speed was fixed, for me, by installing cell pro and or cell evo roms. that guys roms are insane stable and fast. however the problem, again, was the memory usage which is a symptom of sense 2.1 or higher (dont get me started on sense 2.5). his roms were awesome but running multiple programs almost became impossible. i could open opera 9.7 and maybe one other program in the background. if i tried more than that i ran into memory issues. i like having my most commonly used programs loaded and ready to go. couldnt do that with any sense 2.1 roms. when I reverted back to stock 6.1 tf3d 2.1 every thing was fixed: speed and memory. now i can have opera open in the background (usually 4-5 tabs open) mylifeorganized, pocket informant, pocket player, newsbreak, email, pocket quicken, and excel. even with all that open in the background I am around 65% memory consumed, a full 1% less than sense 2.1 allows by itself.
what would be nice is wm 6.5 or 6.5.x with tf3d. small footprint interface and a userfriendly os.

I have to agree with the OP. I did the 6.5 update and immediately regretted it. Thank goodness cdguider posted a 6.1 for back up!!
Programs that worked well in 6.1 became glitchy in 6.5. It was slower than molasses, and I dropped calls and missed text messages.
As with ALL roms, it is a matter of personal taste. I went back to 6.1 and have been a happy camper. For me it seems to be the more stable and reliable rom...and I tried MANY, stock and cooked. 6.1 just works better with the applications that I NEED. I like the eye candy of 6.5, but eye candy isn't worth it if it doesn't run the way I need it to.
I had a Wizard for many years and was a rom flashing fiend. While I have tried many cooked roms here, the stock 6.1 seems to be the best fit. This is not a fault of the great Rhodium chefs, but rather, I believe, fault with WinMo/Manilla/Sense and whatever else is frankenstein'd into 6.5 roms.

same here. 6.5 has been a disaster from day one. i am going back to 6.1 .i soft reset 10+ times a day just so my phone does not grind to a hault. gwes.exe is a system program and is the problem, its just no one can fix it

I did do the flash correctly. I did it exactly as the tmo web site said. Also, I have done hard reset and I have done the flash again... no help. Now im running fireSTORM_LEO-v6 WWE, and my phone is a whole new thing. No lag, no freezing. Of course there are some things I dont like about this ROM but its all cosmetic, and im sure there are cabs out there that can help. Also, somebody said that it might be the programs I am running or the text messages and data that I have on the phone. No it is not that because the phone was giving me problems even before I restored the data on the phone.
Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts. I will rename the topic since its obviously not a complete fail.