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Problem with Skype

Has anyone been using Skype lately on their Qtek 9090? I'm having a problem using it. When I make a Skypeout call it will suddenly hang up the call, and although the Qtek says the Wifi connection is still active I can no longer access the internet on it. If I close down the wifi connection then try to reconnect it can't do it anymore, I get no connection at all unless I soft reset and then it connects fine.
Anyone know if there is any kind of problem with wifi on the qtek 9090?
Thanks,
Dimitri

I have your problem
Yay, finally someone suffering the same issues as I do!! I have this on an XDA IIs which is based on the same HTC Blue Angel as your 9090.
Have you tried skype what stood next to your AP? In my case I dont get the problem with max signal, but with anything less it shows its self.
Not alot of help of course, if you have to stand next to the AP you might as well sit at a PC and use that version!
Have a look at:
http://forum.skype.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=12511&sid=c7678729e0141ce3db97a475731b419a
And please add a 'me too' comment to the end of said message. The skype devs pick up stuff from their forum and 2 people with the same issue might mean they fix it.
To be honest, since skype hangup kills wifi for *any* application (soft reset required), it is likely microsoft's fault - skype is simply uncovering a bug in MS's software. Put simply, no app, no matter how badly behaved should be able to take out your internet connection. I have a suspicion that this problem is initiated by some kind of malformed packet. I have seen the same problem with bluetooth. I think it takes out the IP stack, rather than just yr wifi.
Anyway, here's hoping for a fix...
Nigel

Hi veletron,
I saw your reply just after writing a post on the Skype forums. I'm sure what you think is wring is pretty right but I'm really hoping that it's a Skype problem as I don't see any fixes for the problems that exists with the Blue Angel being forthcoming.
After reading your post on the Skype forums I realised that I had already had a full conversation using skype when I was sitting at my desk but as soon as I try to get more comfortable futher away they cut out. What's strange is that even when I'm next to my AP, I don't see any difference in the signal bar.
Dimitri

Hi
WiFi reception on the blue angel is known to be sh1te. I wish they had included a dell style bluetooth/wifi antenna on the top!
I played around with some units in PC world, alongside mine. They were getting a much better signal from the BTopenzone AP than my XDA did.
The other HTC devices saw several updates during their lifetimes, hopefully the blue angel will get fixed. I have so far encountered about 25 bugs, some of which are pretty serious ones.
Nigel

Strange Majik Problems

Strange things are happening all day today, I had majik installed since friday. Today my bleutooth jsut turns of and I cant use the head-set. Then programs like messaging froze, I was able to close it, but still IE froze and stuff like that, any one else expirencing things like this ?

yozh said:
Strange things are happening all day today, I had majik installed since friday. Today my bleutooth jsut turns of and I cant use the head-set. Then programs like messaging froze, I was able to close it, but still IE froze and stuff like that, any one else expirencing things like this ?
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Ive been SRing all day! Mines been freezing on my telenav and sirius. Just started to do this today. Has been fine since Friday as well.

Yeah, same here. I have to do a SR every time I get in my car
Looks like I'll be installing something else on it...

I have been having IE problems connecting, Bluetooth not connecting, 3G freezing. Must be a bad day for Majik.

Well well I`m not alone on this, well vp3G here I come.

I am having this problem as well, what worse is that I am away from my PC for 32 days! on business in boston and all I have is a mac, even worse is that Igo keeps losing GPS whenever it shuts off Bluetooth, isn't there a registry hack that enables power-save on BT, I think I enabled that before and had a similar problem in WM5

spiritofseth said:
I am having this problem as well, what worse is that I am away from my PC for 32 days! on business in boston and all I have is a mac, even worse is that Igo keeps losing GPS whenever it shuts off Bluetooth, isn't there a registry hack that enables power-save on BT, I think I enabled that before and had a similar problem in WM5
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Oh man I feel for you. I`m not sure about pwersetting for b, but it would make sense to me.

Had many problems with Majik yesterday so I tried 3 other roms. Not one would give me 3G sitting here in my office as majik had done. Flashed back to Majik and is working very well. I guess vevery week reflash

People, the root of nearly 70% of problems stems from 3rd party apps and NOT the ROM......
suggest you guys test it out with no apps installed and you will see the ROM is solid.
anything with 'spb' in the title should be left at arms length.
Anything like phonealarm etc... that claim to support WM6 really are only going on beta testers...remember the releases we are using are VERY new

Had nothing spb installed. The biggest issue is the BT disconnecting all the time. And the phone frezing.

yozh said:
Had nothing spb installed. The biggest issue is the BT disconnecting all the time. And the phone frezing.
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Like i said, Hard Reset....then dry run it and youl probably see the difference.....3rd party software which is acting up can cause allsorts of weird problems.

yozh said:
Had nothing spb installed. The biggest issue is the BT disconnecting all the time. And the phone frezing.
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I've got 5 8525's running this Majik and only one has "freezing" issues... and he had these same issues with his Wizard. 2 POP3 email accounts being polled every 30 minutes, Exchange 2003 push and 140 plus reminders MIGHT have something to do with it <sigh>
Battery life is incredible, speed is great when one adjusts the glyphcache.
As with you, my biggest complaint is with the BT dropping the call to the device but then I can bring it back up… seems to happen mostly on my initial outgoing call….
Again, respect to the chefs, this is a bad ass ROM.
Peace, out.

Hi Guys
I have been running LVSW 20070423 since it was released. Yesterday i decided to give Majik a go. All i can say it is terribly slow. Even clean ROM without applicvations. Could only stand it for 30min and then i reflashed LVSW back. The other thing is default coulors, i could hardly see my screen when outside. Dialer is crap, i like native WM6 dialer when you can type a few letters and then hide the dialpad. In Majik there are 4 lines only and if you have a lot of contacts it is a real pain to scroll through.
No good for me at all.
Will stick with LVSW ROM until the official release.

I have installed, Sirius, Voice Commander, Adobe, Live Search, WLM 1400, and esmertec. I tweaked the performance myself and set up mms and MEdia net and ISP/WAP settings myself. After I reinstalled Majik I have had no problems. I think that those problems came from WLM and IE because of the IPhone owners taking up my bandwidth
Note....Everybody that had problems was the same day they released the IPhone and we are all on AT&T
Check it out
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/03/stingy_att_iphone_network_snafu/

Second Flash
I think I had a bad flash the first time around.
I reflashed yesterday and the speed problems have dissapeared.
I was waiting +/- 20 seconds for /windows to open using file explorer.
That's all gone now and the ROM is pretty nippy and stable so far for my application.
But I do feel that all the extras trying to mimic the "Touch" ROM will have an effect on the speed and maybe stability.
That's why is still flash a different ROM every week or so.
To date Sleuth seems to have the combo nearly right.
LVSW cooked up fantastic ROM's, but he seems to be playing with his ELF now. - a bummer for us Hermes users.

Majick slowishness
I've found that installing the video dialler (3 cab files) dramatically slows down the Majick rom. I thought I was imagining things so I hard reset and repeated the excersise a couple of times with the same effect.
I leave the video dialler off now. I can't think of a time that I've ever used it although I do obsess about having a feature on my phone that I can't use even though I never use it.
Although Majick is an excellent ROM I did find the current LSVW was a bit quicker. The HSDPA problem in this ROM meant that it was a no-goer for me though.
I'm not complaining you understand, I'm very grateful for all the work people have done to get me WM6 on my phone!

only problem i have with majic so far is that when I add the new internet 3G connection, my username and password never seems to get saved no matter after how long. i have tried to both soft reset and power off, but still the 3G username/password never gets saved. anyone have any ideas on this?

Is it network, WM6, or the unit problem?

The problem is one of the most annoying ones you can have: it appears only from time to time and you don't know when and even when it does you don't notice.
Simply my phone is not accessible for others even it shows full range and so on. The message "...the phone is switched off...". This problem occurs in as far as I remember 3 releases of ROMS (full, vanillas, etc). The radio ROM was also changed. I don't remember having such issue in early WM6 or in original 2005.
Since it's not related directly to any of the releases I post it as a new thread.
Now I have 3 options:
1. Downgrade to 2005
2. Throw the unit through the window, wait until end of contract and buy an iPhone
3. Try to fight with T-Mobile UK - which is not really an option since I just recovered from fighting with Orange for over a month
Does any of you experienced such problem?
Any known issues with downgrading to 2005 like ISPL required before flashing original ROM?
Any suggestions?

Adigital said:
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Any known issues with downgrading to 2005 like ISPL required before flashing original ROM?
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Well, I got the answer - couldn't wait and did the downgrade using original ROM. If anyone interested it went without problems. No ISPL needed. Connected, fired-up the exe file and worked OK.
I'll see how about the availability problem.

Ok, seems that it's only me having the conversation ;o)
I apologize for the thread location - it doesn't seem to be related strictly to WM6 anymore as I...
...installed WM5 and did some tests:
(I have voice mail switched off)
- Call waiting enabled = no calls allowed when GPRS active
- Call waiting disabled = no calls when transferring data (large file) but received when no transfer
- Used W660i SonyEricsson handset - could receive calls regardless of GPRS activity
Rang T-Mobile tech support where they told me that this is network feature that when internet connection is active no calls are allowed and since my voicemail is turned off all callers get message that my phone is switched off. In the light of GPRS specification and my tests this is a bull****.
Now I'm asking anyone on UK T-Mobile Web'n'Walk and who wants to help - please do such test. Just try to call your number from different phone when opening a web-page.
This is pretty important to me - I need internet on the move and don't want to get rid of my MDA.
Thanks in advance!

Hi there,
I'm on T-Mobile UK too and I ran some tests myself and found that you are absolutely correct. When you transfer data you cannot receive phone calls.
I've got an O2 device with me I can do some more tests on and I'll also try and borrow my Wife's Samsung and test that too. I'll post my findings here.
Cheers
Alex

ok, i've just tested this on an O2 3G device and there was no problem, next to try a none windows mobile t-mobile phone.

seems this problem has been around for while and on other networks.
http://www.freenfo.net/mobile/archive/index-t-64022.html

ok, final test and conclusion.
I tested the same o2 phone as above but in a NON 3g area (i.e. gprs only) and found the exact same issue.
conclusion: this seems to affect all types of phone and multiple networks but only when using gprs NOT 3g.
I'm suprised we havent heard more about this problem.
cheers
Alex

Thank you Alex very much for your help.
I did some research on the topic last night and found the same info as guys in the thread your linked. It must be that T-Mobile UK operates in NOM-2, which allows to suspend GPRS session only when no data is transferred. When packets are transmitted the device doesn't 'see' incoming calls as it's 'busy' with dealing with the packets. NOM-1 is 'able' to encapsulate information about incoming call into one of the packets and the device is notified about - so it can react, suspend the transmission and pick up the call.
The fact is that our MDA/Artemis uses Class B of GPRS which doesn't allow simultaneous CDA/GPRS at the same time. Even if it can suspend active data transfer it is the network that has to support that feature.
What I must notice is that I had lot more problems wiht this when I was using WM6. It seems that there were some packets transmitted by the system or something. I had my mail set to check servers every 15 mins at the beginning but lately ony once an hour or two. Other soft that could transmit anything was Weather module from SPB or Touch. Now when I'm on WM5 and was checking the issue during loading a page I was unavailable but as soon as a page was completely loaded my phone was accessible back.
My surprise is that if the 'issue' seems to be quite normal and there is nothing to do about it why I couldn't find any info about it here. Doesn't it affect anyone of our community?
I may be wrong with the WM6 expirience but still. If WM6 works fine in that respect it must have happened that someone missed a call when browsing the net.

i hadnt noticed to be honest

mugglesquop said:
i hadnt noticed to be honest
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Did you try ringing your phone when it was loading a long page or downloading a file?

TBH I think I've noticed it just as much on WM6 as I did (or didn't) on WM5, I think I put these odd voice mails turning up down to weird WM issues! Now I know the truth though.
Obv. there isn't a lot we can do about this and I'm not prepared to turn off my Windows Live Mail or my direct push. I think we just have to wait until our contracts are up for renewal and get over to a 3G device - I'm liking the look of the Touch Cruise myself, or the Touch Dual if I want that keyboard back and by the time my contract is up I think they should be on T-Mob UK.

does the same thing happen in Edge areas or as that rolls out will the problem disappear?

I'm not sure about how EDGE works but the problem affects GPRS rather than 3G due to the fact that GPRS and the incoming call are submitted alongside each other and 3G is seperate. I don't think t-mob uk have edge running yet so I can't test, perhpas some else can test for us.

Bro.. My first 3rd party ROM is the Touch 3.0.. and yes.. my connnection did go off once a while (no bars as well).. that was kinda irritating. I have to go to connection manager and toggle my data connection or something like that, before my phone will get the GSM signal.
And yea.. the original WM5 and WM6 have no such issues.. I wonder if this is because of the new radio version..

Problem with Voice Dropping Out on Caller's End with TMobile

I am having major problems with the voice dropping out on my end. I can hear the other person, but they can not hear me. This happens sometimes right away when I make a call and sometimes a few minutes into the call.
The same problem is happening to me with every version of ROM and Radio Version I have tried:
WM5.0
WM6.0
WM6.1
I have a HTC 8500 Hermes (8525 without the camera) - ATT/Cingular that I am running on the TMobile Network.
I am currently running CRC's WM 6.1 with Radio 1.54.07.00
I get great signal and good data connection. The calls do not drop entirely only my voice outgoing.
I ran the network selection wizard and selected T-Mobile without result.
I have spent hours reading the forum and searching for posts about this...
Any help or ideas?
Thanks

where u located? what plan u on? look at these prior threads on the subject from a xda google search...maybe some help:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images

Slicksixgun said:
I am having major problems with the voice dropping out on my end. I can hear the other person, but they can not hear me. This happens sometimes right away when I make a call and sometimes a few minutes into the call.
The same problem is happening to me with every version of ROM and Radio Version I have tried:
WM5.0
WM6.0
WM6.1
I have a HTC 8500 Hermes (8525 without the camera) - ATT/Cingular that I am running on the TMobile Network.
I am currently running CRC's WM 6.1 with Radio 1.54.07.00
I get great signal and good data connection. The calls do not drop entirely only my voice outgoing.
I ran the network selection wizard and selected T-Mobile without result.
I have spent hours reading the forum and searching for posts about this...
Any help or ideas?
Thanks
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With using a Bluetooth headset or straight through?
Have you flashed to the EXACT factory ROM/Radio for your model and see if you have the same symptom?

Hi there,
please refer to this thread. might help you find a solution or 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352218&page=2
Main ideas is
1. Disable your start up animation sound
2. Do not enable WOW HD Settings on boot up.

I am in Dallas, TX using the T-Mobile Network.

So far, I have only tried straight through. I will give the hands free and bluetooth a try. Thanks.
Also, I have tried 3 Shipped Roms or Factory upgrades (Cingular WM5.0, ATT WM 6.0, HTC WM 6.0)

I looked at the thread link and went through all of my phone settings, but I am not sure how to disable the start up animation sound or WOW HD settings on boot up.
I will keep searching the forums' threads, but if you have some instructions that would be great.

Sylpheed said:
Hi there,
please refer to this thread. might help you find a solution or 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352218&page=2
Main ideas is
1. Disable your start up animation sound
2. Do not enable WOW HD Settings on boot up.
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OK, I found this posting:
06-05-2008, 07:19 PM
bjevers
Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Ankeny, IA
Posts: 104
Mine has gone all day and it seems to be working. I think it's the SRS_WOWHD_bt_fixed cab like wikiri mentioned.
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OS 5.2.19588 (Build 19588.1.1.4 PV DVH) 6MB PP
Radio 1.54.30.10
The problem is that I can not find how to fix or reinstall the WOWHD. Is it a patch or a setting change?

With the hands free plugged in the phone works perfectly. If I unplug the hands free then the mic goes out or is patchy.

it sounds very much like my phone problem that i had. I use the mic and the other side couldn't hear me well, keep saying i sound too far away. Once i turn on the bluetooth, they could hear me loud and clear.
If turning off Starting animiation sound and WOW HD Settings doesn't work. chances are you have a bad mic and need repairs.

Thanks for your posting on the problem with my mic on the Hermes. It is definately the same problem you had. I was wondering if you could help me with how to turn off the WOW HD settings and initial animation. I have searched the forums and can only find that I should do these things but not how. I am running CRC's WM6.1 v.11. I can not find a program called WOW HD in the settings.
Thanks alot!

I am having the same problem except the conversation goes well for a minute or so then the person on the other end can not hear me.
The solutions given don't work for me and I never used SRS WOW.
Use Schap's Advanced Configuration Tool to change all these settings.
I'm hoping the phone doesn't need repair. It just stopped working and when it does work is clear and precise. Does anyone have any other ideas?

addicus, I have had the same problem with my 8525 on Tmob here in Chicago. I think my problem is a combination of poor signal quality/radio rom.....I wonder how much this has to do with Tmob upgrading their network to 3G.

Vision77 said:
addicus, I have had the same problem with my 8525 on Tmob here in Chicago. I think my problem is a combination of poor signal quality/radio rom.....I wonder how much this has to do with Tmob upgrading their network to 3G.
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What's up Vision77. I believe this has a lot to do with the 3G upgrade for TMobile USA. I never had this problem until 4 days ago and I know my area (Southern California Inland Empire) is being upgraded soon as part of Los Angeles.
I flashed a new radio last night and it seemed to have solved the issue from my test. Chexk out my signature for the radio # and good luck.
All Hermes radios are available on the wiki or through CRCinAU's signature.

yea, I found radio 1.47.00.10 to be the best w/tmobile out West, back in Ohio, in Texas, and even roaming in Mexico!

Probelm with WiFi

Hello there,
What I Have: Att 8525 Herm100
Rom: Att's Mobile 6
Everything is stock but the extended life battery
The problem I am having is when ever I try to activate my WiFi the phone doesn't do anything. I am not sure if there is a wifi card or not but that's want I want to know. I have tried everything from activating it in com manager to going into the settings and activating it manually and nothing happens it acts like I didn't even hit the button to activate it. Is there a wifi card in the phone or is it integrated on the motherboard in the phone. Note: I bought this phone off e-bay and the wifi never worked when I received the phone.
I am new here and if there is a post about this already I am sorry.

I hate it when that happens.
To begin, there were two ATT OEM WM6 roms relevant to the 8525 that I noticed deep in the bowels of XGA.
I chose the later file (higher revision numbers) I found it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Available Original Shipped WM6 ROM Versions
From comm manager when I click the tower button on within a second the spinning windoze icon shows something is happening. It then starts "sniffing" for my preset wifi connection (ATT supplied 2wire portal 802.11g).
Now, if yours does not show the spinning windoze working icon when you turn on wifi? There obviously is a problem. This could be software, or hardware related (duh). If there is no error message related to "wifi is not an option, unavailable, or screwed" then my first guess is there is something missing or damaged in the ROM update that was applied to your device. As far as I know all 8525 (herm100) were shipped with wm5. It had been mentioned in the volumes of xda that the first AT&T WM6 rom was a little buggy. Try the later released AT&T WM6 update.
It was a run file so no muss no fuss. Sync the phone run the update from the pc, three minutes later the phone is flashed to ATT WM6 professional.
You could take it to a ATT shop? But, I think that without a doubt they would hand it back and say you need a new phone with a 20 year contract and 3g data plan even Obama would blush at.
Try the hard reset. take a picture of the startup screens so you have the numbers and see if the wifi startup is working after the reset. If not then compare the numbers to the above mentioned roms. If the indications are you have the first issue of WM6 from ATT try flashing the second release. If that still fails then your device could indeed have a hardware problem.
The wifi is indeed built into the system and if that chip on the board is not working it could be a overly expensive problem. Possibly a shop has a working board they would swap out cheap? Otherwise, it is a fun phone you can keep notes on, run gps software if you have a bluetooth gps receiver and software like tomtom.
To be honest the wifi on my 8525 has been convenient when around the house to check the local weather radar when I hear a thunder outside, or browse headlines from the porcelain room or even leave messenger turned on incase a gamer friend is looking for someone to get shot up in a game.
I have used the live search voice thing to amaze the neighbors once. But, the limited range of wifi is a real drawback to how truly wonderful that addition could be.

HELP Please! Wi-Fi not working!!!
Hi to XDA all users !!!
MY Hermes - HTC TyTN [Herm200]
I bought HTC Hermes myself year ago.
there was flashed a WM5.0, I've just downloaded from here HARD SPL & WM6,1 (Custom) Flashed.
Wi-Fi will works on WM5.0.
Well here I am at 6.1 flashed and now is not working Wi-Fi. When i pressed Power ON - loading long and nothing happens.
Other methods are also tried on Commanager and Settings - but did not help.
What do I need to do my dear.
HELP!
Thank you for your attention!

Hi Nurk.
Since the wifi worked on wm5 but failed after the 6.1 flash. I would guess the problem is in the 6.1 components. You might start with contacting the kitchen rom you employed for WM6.1 thread and see if this has happened to others. Next step would be to check the radio rom version. I did see on xda an assortment of Radio roms.
If your not totally in love with the current rom you have flashed? Try another 6.1 or even a 6.5 and see whats poppin.

and what you have in HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName?

utak3r said:
and what you have in HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName?
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I have get this from registry:
HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName - {98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\TIACXWLN1