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Weird Skype Issue

Hi folks, I have a Qetk 9090, the rom is WWE 1.22 the Ext rom I don't remember but I it is not the latest one. Anyway
Before the 1.22 rom, I tried Skype on Wifi no problems everything went well, not if I receive a call or make one after 30 seconds the call crash, the Wifi seems to crash as well, if I stop it and restart it, the Wifi software won't work but the wifi light will blink... I need a soft reset to make it work, if I do the same test at thome calling my PC with my PPC, no problem... what is going on? Is that a Wifi Issue or Skype ?
Thanks

My XDA IIs has always done this. Skype know about this issue, and there is a thread here about it as well. They (skype) say that its the Blue Angel, not skype. It does not appear to be only the blue angel either.
Interestingly, for me it works if I stand next to my AP while using it. Hardly convienient!
Nigel

i use mine over bluetooth activesync on my xdaII (no wifi) and encounter the same problem.... only happens when i use skype though.

I have had major problems with Skype before version 1.1.0.6. This version doesn't have a problem on my IIs. As a matter of fact, I leave Skype and FWD on for more 48hrs without it crashing. I have had experinces with having Wisbar advance installed and random application would crash. These voip apps would not have the chance of being installed if I didn't have a wifi network.

I also have 1.1.0.6 but experience the same symptoms. I've read some skype-related issues on xda-dev and believe it could very well be the wifi's subpar quality.
Just now I tested a skype call sitting right next to the router - no problems at all. moved into the living room - other party reported distortions in my voice. moved further away, into my room - distortions worsened, until finally the wifi connection dropped to nearly "zero" (no curved lines around the wireless lan manager icon on Today screen). immediately following, connection totally terminated, and the pda's internet will not WORK at all, despite still showing status of "connected". only solution is a soft reset. :evil:
nomadman, did you find that the 1.40 ROM upgrade helped at all? as a last ditch effort, I will probably try migrating over to 1.40/1.12radio to see if things improve. ( see http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22429&highlight=skype )

kia do not upgrade the rom counting that it will increase the range of wifi or bt. i have not noticed any distance increase upgrading from 1.33 and the last radio version. i upgraded because i wanted to learn how to upgrade the rom. i can get 10 to 12 meters from my AP. thats with a hallow wall and a cement exterior walled home.

nomadman said:
kia do not upgrade the rom counting that it will increase the range of wifi or bt. i have not noticed any distance increase upgrading from 1.33 and the last radio version. i upgraded because i wanted to learn how to upgrade the rom. i can get 10 to 12 meters from my AP. thats with a hallow wall and a cement exterior walled home.
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Thanks for the warning. I seem to consistently get BAD reception from the router to my room, which is less than 8 meters away
I just confirmed that the Skype that comes with ROM 1.40 is 1.1.0.7... so I may just give THAT a go afterall as I'm all out of options..

Are you getting good distance with a desktop PC? I wasn't aware that Skype is included in any ROM. At least it wasn't included in my 1.40 upgrade.

good news to report: I finally took the plunge and upgraded to 1.40ROM, and my Skype via Wifi issues seemed to have dissappeared!
Very prelim info and will need further testing tonight at home, but just now at the office I was able to talk for over 8 minutes with NO disconnections. veletron and others who have this problem, this may just be the fix!!!
Skype is definitely included in 1.40, at least in the 1.40 I-mate rom that I upgraded to today. The version included is 1.1.0.7.

Great news m8. can you extract the 1.1.0.7 cab and upload it. the skype site only has 1.1.0.6 available for download.

Skype 1.1.0.7
Try here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_ROM_140176_WWE/Default_SkypeForPocketPC.CAB

Please post the version number and I will update the wiki page for that EXT Rom. Thanks

Thanks for pointing the right direction m8. Indeed this is Skype 1.1.0.7.

Anytime dude. Be sure to post your experiences with 1.1.0.7.

Radio problems with LVSW/Radio ROM

I am using LVSW ROMs since 26/03 version, through 08/04 until present 19/05. I also have 1.41 version of Radio ROM. Since I've started using these ROMs, I'm noticing problems with radio stack.
For example, while I was driving a car across Europe (UK->PL) few weeks ago, GSM module hanged almost every time I was crossing a border between countries and phone was loosing signal from one country and had to register in another. All I could see was little [!] sign instead of signal bars, and restarting phone module and/or whole device could help it. Two days ago I was on M1 from Sheffield to London and I've noticed that GSM module just died - pressing green button did just nothing (despite I had full signal bars), and people trying to call me that time, were saying they had regular calling signal, like I was missing a call. Besides that whole device was working properly, with no problems whatsoever.
On the other hand, I have no problems with dropped calls or data sessions. Looks like it is happening mainly on the move, and phone has problems with registering with network properly.
So there is a question(s) - does anyone have similar problems with LVSW ROMs or 1.41 Radio ROM? Should I downgrade Radio ROM to 1.40 or 1.38? I have HardSPLv7 installed, so is it safe to just use this RUU - ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Hermes/HERM_Radio_Only_1.40.30.00_CustomRUU.rar ? I've been searching forums, but haven't found much information on *downgrading* Radio ROM in particular.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Its the radio rom causing you problems. I've also had problems with data connections in particular using ROM 1.40 and 1.41 (in Asia, on UMTS and EDGE networks).
Suggest you re-flash the pretty-much proven 1.38 ROM. You can find the download link from the Wiki.

radio downgrade
I used the 1.40 on black 2.5 and it was ok , then I upgraded to 1.41 radio and I had problems with the sound quality so I downgraded to 1.40 and the sound become back good
I have HardSPLv7 installed and I am on orange IL Israel
I used for downgrade CustomRUU and had no problems on the downgrade prosses
now i am using the last version of LVWS with radio 1.40 and it is working ok
hope this info help you
another remark :
try to install first the radion and on top of it os and not first os and then radio , i notice in a change of battery life in those 2 variants

Were you driving too fast for the phone to keep up with the radio transmitters passing by????
I'm also using LVSW 19-05 and Radio 1.41 but not having any significant issues unless a program runs at 100%, then the person trying to call me hangs up before the phone starts ringing!
Ciao Oggy.

It's not the LVSW ROM.....! It's the radio 1.41 And this radio was tuned for Cingular. I am on Cingular and i personally think that 1.40 is much much better. Read up on the two radio topics for more info on the two. So the bottom line is it's NOT LVSW at fault here. it's the 1.41 radio...

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It's not the LVSW ROM.....! It's the radio 1.41 And this radio was tuned for Cingular. I am on Cingular and i personally think that 1.40 is much much better. Read up on the two radio topics for more info on the two. So the bottom line is it's NOT LVSW at fault here. it's the 1.41 radio...
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Yeah, that's what I thought, but wasn't 100% sure either. I'm going to downgrade to 1.40 tonight and will observe any results...
Thanks to all for your inputs.

to be fair I think there is a problem with t-mobile uk at the moment with handovers, let me explain.......
I have a active data connection.........
phone is on 3G, everything fine
phone switches to 2G, data connection is still active, no problems
phone switches to 3G, data connection is broken and the radio reboots (scrolling dots ect.)
I can (and have) replicated this with EVERY radio from 1.27 to 1.41 (and I do mean EVERY radio)
I've also tried EVERY WM6 rom out there all do the same.
so I can only think its T-mobile playing up, its just strange that everything worked fine with WM5 as I remember (and no Im not flashing back to find out!)

Hi, I'm in the Netherlands. Just tested the 1.40 because 1.41 disconnected all the time. So far so good (5 calls later..). Downgrade went fine with the customRUU. Regards Bas

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to be fair I think there is a problem with t-mobile uk at the moment with handovers, let me explain.......
I have a active data connection.........
phone is on 3G, everything fine
phone switches to 2G, data connection is still active, no problems
phone switches to 3G, data connection is broken and the radio reboots (scrolling dots ect.)
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Interesting - it might be worth to check, but here in London it's actually hard to find a place where phone would switch itself 3G->2G. But anyway, I had problems not only on T-Mobile UK network, as I stated in first post, so I rather think it's Radio ROM related problem, more than network.

Sorry...I've been to positive. Right now only incoming calls come through. Outgoing is still a disaster. I'll downgrade to 1.38. Ill let you know if this works..

Currently in Thailand on DTAC, an EDGE network (all their GSM networks here have EDGE).
Radio 1.40: Voice calls were okay, didn't seem to have any problems, until I tried using data (gprs/edge). The data connection was completely unstable and unusable. Downgraded to radio 1.38...
Radio 1.38: Everything okay so far, EDGE data and voice calls.

Same boat!
Yup, same thing here with T-Mobile and the 3G/2G thingy.
Though I must admit 1.40 is pretty sucky anyway, 1.41 was worse.
Considering going back to 1.38, I've forgotten what it came with 1.2x or something, which, for its sins was pretty OK.
Oi! T-Mobile!! Sort it out before I head back to Orange!!!!
Actually, forget that rant, no point taking two steps backwards and starting to pay per MB again!!! LMAO

mccreath said:
Yup, same thing here with T-Mobile and the 3G/2G thingy.
Though I must admit 1.40 is pretty sucky anyway, 1.41 was worse.
Considering going back to 1.38, I've forgotten what it came with 1.2x or something, which, for its sins was pretty OK.
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One more thing, which just came to my mind - in the original T-Mobile's MDA Vario II Extended ROM there is a file called P_rilgsm_patch.CAB, which could be related to Radio. Maybe this is a key for these problems? I guess this patch is network-specific - well, I believe this patch is there for a reason...
Btw, I've just downgraded to 1.40...

Error message flashing Radio 1.40.30
Hope someone can help me with this. I'm encountering an error message when trying to flash to radio 1.40.30. I have Custel 2.5 installed on a JasJam with Radio 1.41 currently.
When I run the update RUU program and click the AutoDetect button, I get a message that says "Error, Unknown version! You should pick SSPL".
I have HardSPL7 installed, so my question is, is it safe to force SSPL? Is that what it is asking me to do?
Thanks.
Nevermind, I think I found the answer finally - it only took many days:
1. Select "2.10 new..."
2. Tick "Is it HARD Spl?"
And then run the update as per normal.

where is the link to downgrade the radio 1.38
thanks

naxos said:
where is the link to downgrade the radio 1.38
thanks
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You will find all the Radio roms available at this link:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms

thanks man

tried P_rilgsm_patch.CAB which as made abit of a mess Could some post rilgsm.dll from a LVSW rom plz as I managed to backup the wrong file

ratcom said:
tried P_rilgsm_patch.CAB which as made abit of a mess Could some post rilgsm.dll from a LVSW rom plz as I managed to backup the wrong file
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OK, but how to actually copy/send rilgsm.dll file?? Each time I have 'File cannot be copied' message, or such like... :-o
Btw, what happened, when you applied rilgsm patch?

i now get a "E" icon instead of "3G" and the radio seems slower handing over from 3G to 2G and back (thank god my stairs are 2G only!) I've sent you a PM on how to copy that file.

Is it network, WM6, or the unit problem?

The problem is one of the most annoying ones you can have: it appears only from time to time and you don't know when and even when it does you don't notice.
Simply my phone is not accessible for others even it shows full range and so on. The message "...the phone is switched off...". This problem occurs in as far as I remember 3 releases of ROMS (full, vanillas, etc). The radio ROM was also changed. I don't remember having such issue in early WM6 or in original 2005.
Since it's not related directly to any of the releases I post it as a new thread.
Now I have 3 options:
1. Downgrade to 2005
2. Throw the unit through the window, wait until end of contract and buy an iPhone
3. Try to fight with T-Mobile UK - which is not really an option since I just recovered from fighting with Orange for over a month
Does any of you experienced such problem?
Any known issues with downgrading to 2005 like ISPL required before flashing original ROM?
Any suggestions?

Adigital said:
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Any known issues with downgrading to 2005 like ISPL required before flashing original ROM?
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Well, I got the answer - couldn't wait and did the downgrade using original ROM. If anyone interested it went without problems. No ISPL needed. Connected, fired-up the exe file and worked OK.
I'll see how about the availability problem.

Ok, seems that it's only me having the conversation ;o)
I apologize for the thread location - it doesn't seem to be related strictly to WM6 anymore as I...
...installed WM5 and did some tests:
(I have voice mail switched off)
- Call waiting enabled = no calls allowed when GPRS active
- Call waiting disabled = no calls when transferring data (large file) but received when no transfer
- Used W660i SonyEricsson handset - could receive calls regardless of GPRS activity
Rang T-Mobile tech support where they told me that this is network feature that when internet connection is active no calls are allowed and since my voicemail is turned off all callers get message that my phone is switched off. In the light of GPRS specification and my tests this is a bull****.
Now I'm asking anyone on UK T-Mobile Web'n'Walk and who wants to help - please do such test. Just try to call your number from different phone when opening a web-page.
This is pretty important to me - I need internet on the move and don't want to get rid of my MDA.
Thanks in advance!

Hi there,
I'm on T-Mobile UK too and I ran some tests myself and found that you are absolutely correct. When you transfer data you cannot receive phone calls.
I've got an O2 device with me I can do some more tests on and I'll also try and borrow my Wife's Samsung and test that too. I'll post my findings here.
Cheers
Alex

ok, i've just tested this on an O2 3G device and there was no problem, next to try a none windows mobile t-mobile phone.

seems this problem has been around for while and on other networks.
http://www.freenfo.net/mobile/archive/index-t-64022.html

ok, final test and conclusion.
I tested the same o2 phone as above but in a NON 3g area (i.e. gprs only) and found the exact same issue.
conclusion: this seems to affect all types of phone and multiple networks but only when using gprs NOT 3g.
I'm suprised we havent heard more about this problem.
cheers
Alex

Thank you Alex very much for your help.
I did some research on the topic last night and found the same info as guys in the thread your linked. It must be that T-Mobile UK operates in NOM-2, which allows to suspend GPRS session only when no data is transferred. When packets are transmitted the device doesn't 'see' incoming calls as it's 'busy' with dealing with the packets. NOM-1 is 'able' to encapsulate information about incoming call into one of the packets and the device is notified about - so it can react, suspend the transmission and pick up the call.
The fact is that our MDA/Artemis uses Class B of GPRS which doesn't allow simultaneous CDA/GPRS at the same time. Even if it can suspend active data transfer it is the network that has to support that feature.
What I must notice is that I had lot more problems wiht this when I was using WM6. It seems that there were some packets transmitted by the system or something. I had my mail set to check servers every 15 mins at the beginning but lately ony once an hour or two. Other soft that could transmit anything was Weather module from SPB or Touch. Now when I'm on WM5 and was checking the issue during loading a page I was unavailable but as soon as a page was completely loaded my phone was accessible back.
My surprise is that if the 'issue' seems to be quite normal and there is nothing to do about it why I couldn't find any info about it here. Doesn't it affect anyone of our community?
I may be wrong with the WM6 expirience but still. If WM6 works fine in that respect it must have happened that someone missed a call when browsing the net.

i hadnt noticed to be honest

mugglesquop said:
i hadnt noticed to be honest
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Did you try ringing your phone when it was loading a long page or downloading a file?

TBH I think I've noticed it just as much on WM6 as I did (or didn't) on WM5, I think I put these odd voice mails turning up down to weird WM issues! Now I know the truth though.
Obv. there isn't a lot we can do about this and I'm not prepared to turn off my Windows Live Mail or my direct push. I think we just have to wait until our contracts are up for renewal and get over to a 3G device - I'm liking the look of the Touch Cruise myself, or the Touch Dual if I want that keyboard back and by the time my contract is up I think they should be on T-Mob UK.

does the same thing happen in Edge areas or as that rolls out will the problem disappear?

I'm not sure about how EDGE works but the problem affects GPRS rather than 3G due to the fact that GPRS and the incoming call are submitted alongside each other and 3G is seperate. I don't think t-mob uk have edge running yet so I can't test, perhpas some else can test for us.

Bro.. My first 3rd party ROM is the Touch 3.0.. and yes.. my connnection did go off once a while (no bars as well).. that was kinda irritating. I have to go to connection manager and toggle my data connection or something like that, before my phone will get the GSM signal.
And yea.. the original WM5 and WM6 have no such issues.. I wonder if this is because of the new radio version..

[The ALL-RADIO Excalibur Thread]

hey i was looking at the other forums and they all contain some kind of radio rom thread with many radio roms and its sticky'd so i decided i should make one also so everyone can find radio roms easily and flash them and see which they get the best performance out of!
some radios extracted with thanks to: da_mayhem
T-Mobile WM6 Radio - 4.1.13.34_02.79.90
HTC WM6 WWE ROM - 4.1.13.44_02.94.90
Rogers WM6 Radio - 4,1,13,47_02.98.90
New 4.1.13.51_03.07.90 radio
and finally some VOX radio's I converted over to the Excalibur/Dash
Vox Radio 4.1.13.47_02.98.90
Vox Radio 4.1.13.37_02.83.90
Vox Radio 4.1.13.47_02.94.90
Vox Radio 4.1.13.60_03.18.90
Make sure you have the USPL loaded into your device (Thanks to jockyw2001)
**How to Flash**
1. download the USPL file
2. Run USPL.bat and follow the instructions
3. once your screen turns blank and the USPL.bat application finishes open up the radio rom file you would like to flash and run the RomUpdateUtility.exe file
4. Report your results so others can see!!
***Flash at your own risk and ask questions or read if your uncertain as to what to do***

well ill be the first one to post my results. out of all the radios i believe the 02.98.90 radio gives me the best service in my area
battery life not bad either
im in Woodland Hills CA and using tmobile service

i can say out of the 3 official ones ive used only the rogers one had a decent reception in my area....
I am intrigued with the vox ones... ill have to load one of them up this week and test it.

I was wondering... is any of these radios known to drop calls?
I'll explain myself. I usually call someone and some people will hang up and call back. The fact is that these kind of calls won't usually come through, as they receive the message from the network operator that the terminal is powered off or out of coverage (rough translation).
If they call back once again, this time the call comes in.
Any ideas on what's causing this behaviour?
A similar problem happens when I'm on the data connection chatting with palringo or browsing the web. If someone calls me in these moments the call won't come through.

Bump!
Any ideas on this issue?
Which Radio ROM would you suggest I downgrade to given that now I have 4.1.13.51_03.07.90?

Just wondering, what these radio roms did, and do they affect you having wm6.1/6/5?

Were can I go to see what radio version I have installed on my dash?

stickman said:
Bump!
Any ideas on this issue?
Which Radio ROM would you suggest I downgrade to given that now I have 4.1.13.51_03.07.90?
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yeah im wondering that to since i get alot of dropped calls now

Well, I think I've narrowed the problem to a provider issue.
I'm on a unlimited data plan and have palringo and exchange server setup so I'm always online.
So, I get the above mentioned behaviour, but it just doesn't happen with the dash. My Nokia E65 does the very same thing, call won't come through sometimes if I'm idling on palringo or pulling mails, so it has to be either that Vodafone has old gsm equipment in my area or that it's misconfigured.
Over 3G the problem goes away, it happens on gsm but not just to the dash so I think I'm done blaming the htc.

i changed it to the new radio and i get perfect reception everywhere now and my last phone call sounded extra clear

BUMP FOR THIS THREAD. it deserves a sticky. I gotta test every radio out of this and see which one works flawlessly with WM6.5
EDIT: The HTC radio has been removed. I wanna use with my non T-Mo network

I have ookba's newest ROM to date on my phone, with the newest radio on there. Only problem is... it DRAINS my battery like no other. If its on standby, it goes down really fast, and I'm at 80% within an hour of zero use. Which radio version here would be good and work well with WM6.5? Which one has good service?

HTC_Phone said:
I have ookba's newest ROM to date on my phone, with the newest radio on there. Only problem is... it DRAINS my battery like no other. If its on standby, it goes down really fast, and I'm at 80% within an hour of zero use. Which radio version here would be good and work well with WM6.5? Which one has good service?
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You should be careful with this particular rom, ookba stated not so long ago that testing other radios has been not stable with his 6.5 rom.

gmaniac2008 said:
You should be careful with this particular rom, ookba stated not so long ago that testing other radios has been not stable with his 6.5 rom.
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Hmmm... Alright. Thank You for that. I'll wait and see if anyone else tests it for the 3VO rom.

Probelm with WiFi

Hello there,
What I Have: Att 8525 Herm100
Rom: Att's Mobile 6
Everything is stock but the extended life battery
The problem I am having is when ever I try to activate my WiFi the phone doesn't do anything. I am not sure if there is a wifi card or not but that's want I want to know. I have tried everything from activating it in com manager to going into the settings and activating it manually and nothing happens it acts like I didn't even hit the button to activate it. Is there a wifi card in the phone or is it integrated on the motherboard in the phone. Note: I bought this phone off e-bay and the wifi never worked when I received the phone.
I am new here and if there is a post about this already I am sorry.

I hate it when that happens.
To begin, there were two ATT OEM WM6 roms relevant to the 8525 that I noticed deep in the bowels of XGA.
I chose the later file (higher revision numbers) I found it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Available Original Shipped WM6 ROM Versions
From comm manager when I click the tower button on within a second the spinning windoze icon shows something is happening. It then starts "sniffing" for my preset wifi connection (ATT supplied 2wire portal 802.11g).
Now, if yours does not show the spinning windoze working icon when you turn on wifi? There obviously is a problem. This could be software, or hardware related (duh). If there is no error message related to "wifi is not an option, unavailable, or screwed" then my first guess is there is something missing or damaged in the ROM update that was applied to your device. As far as I know all 8525 (herm100) were shipped with wm5. It had been mentioned in the volumes of xda that the first AT&T WM6 rom was a little buggy. Try the later released AT&T WM6 update.
It was a run file so no muss no fuss. Sync the phone run the update from the pc, three minutes later the phone is flashed to ATT WM6 professional.
You could take it to a ATT shop? But, I think that without a doubt they would hand it back and say you need a new phone with a 20 year contract and 3g data plan even Obama would blush at.
Try the hard reset. take a picture of the startup screens so you have the numbers and see if the wifi startup is working after the reset. If not then compare the numbers to the above mentioned roms. If the indications are you have the first issue of WM6 from ATT try flashing the second release. If that still fails then your device could indeed have a hardware problem.
The wifi is indeed built into the system and if that chip on the board is not working it could be a overly expensive problem. Possibly a shop has a working board they would swap out cheap? Otherwise, it is a fun phone you can keep notes on, run gps software if you have a bluetooth gps receiver and software like tomtom.
To be honest the wifi on my 8525 has been convenient when around the house to check the local weather radar when I hear a thunder outside, or browse headlines from the porcelain room or even leave messenger turned on incase a gamer friend is looking for someone to get shot up in a game.
I have used the live search voice thing to amaze the neighbors once. But, the limited range of wifi is a real drawback to how truly wonderful that addition could be.

HELP Please! Wi-Fi not working!!!
Hi to XDA all users !!!
MY Hermes - HTC TyTN [Herm200]
I bought HTC Hermes myself year ago.
there was flashed a WM5.0, I've just downloaded from here HARD SPL & WM6,1 (Custom) Flashed.
Wi-Fi will works on WM5.0.
Well here I am at 6.1 flashed and now is not working Wi-Fi. When i pressed Power ON - loading long and nothing happens.
Other methods are also tried on Commanager and Settings - but did not help.
What do I need to do my dear.
HELP!
Thank you for your attention!

Hi Nurk.
Since the wifi worked on wm5 but failed after the 6.1 flash. I would guess the problem is in the 6.1 components. You might start with contacting the kitchen rom you employed for WM6.1 thread and see if this has happened to others. Next step would be to check the radio rom version. I did see on xda an assortment of Radio roms.
If your not totally in love with the current rom you have flashed? Try another 6.1 or even a 6.5 and see whats poppin.

and what you have in HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName?

utak3r said:
and what you have in HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName?
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I have get this from registry:
HKLM\Software\HTC\CommManager\WLAN\DeviceName - {98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\TIACXWLN1