Bluetooth GPS - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

I've looked for an hour or so now, and I can't seem to find it again...did I see somewhere that someone had turned their Bluetooth capabilities on their Hermes into a GPS receiver for software that used GPS? Maybe I'm just making this up, but if so, can someone please show/tell me where/how?!?!?!

I think you mean that they hooked up with a "bluetooth GPS receiver unit" via BT.

The only two ways I'm aware of is to use your carrier's towers to triangulate your coordinates, and via an external GPS unit (I'm using the Cingular retailed TelNav unit va BT).
As far as I know, triangulation is possible, but it's not widely known how to do it.
The Hermes apparently has the GPS hardware, however it's not "enabled".
Is this what you have heard, or something else?

1. buy bluetooth gps
2. discover it (settings -> bluetooth)
3. add outgoing port
4. set up gps program port in windows (optional)
5. use gps software with port from 3 or 4

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Blackwall Tunnel, Bluetooth GPS, SPVM2000 (Latest ROM)

Dont know if anyone else has come across this problem or my gps is crap. Takes ages and very clear sky to find satellites. apart from that when i go through blackwall tunnel the gps stops (obvious reasons) but then does not start again on the other side. what i dont understand is why cant it connect to satellites like in-car navigation systems.
Do you think a gps aerial will make a difference??
Definately,
I have a GPS antenna, and it improves reception greatly usual satellite locks of between 8 - 12 sats and quick TTFF
What GPS reciever are you using ?
Do you have recieve all incoming beams unckecked ?
You will find it here :- Start/settings/connections/Beam.
I have an M1000 and an O2 XDA II and both lock on and get a fix in less than 30 seconds I am using the tomtom bluetooth GPS reciever with tomtom 5.
What GPS reciever are you using ?
Do you have recieve all incoming beams unckecked ?
You will find it here :- Start/settings/connections/Beam.
I have an M1000 and an O2 XDA II and both lock on and get a fix in less than 30 seconds I am using the tomtom bluetooth GPS reciever with tomtom 5.
I have got a socket/EMTEC Blutooth GPS that i have had for years, it cost me over £200 when i first bought it and i have never had a problem at all once i bought an antenna for it (the antenna was a no name solution)
as for the incoming beam settings, it makes no difference to me with or without it set, but i personally leave it not set to save battery life as i have never had a need to use it in over 4 years of having a pocketpc

GPS without Reciever?

I just read over TOM TOM, etc, and I realize it uses a COM port when you plug it in the reciever (usually in your car), im wondering if this is a required thing. Can't I just install TOM TOM and on the go, connect to GPRS and find where I am? How does this all work?[/code]
TomTom, like all the other nav programs, expects to receive GPS data, usually in NMEA 0183 format (a simple text-based protocol). Most GPS units provide a serial interface, since it's cheap and is supported by just about every computer around, so that's how the nav software expects to read the data.
If you could somehow get location info from GPRS or from the GSM signal itself (look around here for a program called Cell Profiler -- it does something like that), then translate it to NMEA format and spit it out a fake comport that the nav software could read from, that'd work, but it's a lot of work, and won't be nearly as accurate as a good GPS.
GPS units are pretty cheap -- I've seen wired ones in the $40 range, and even the best BT ones can be had for $150. Compared against GPRS charges, it's quite the bargain. I've used an Altina GBT708 BT GPS for several months, and it works very well even with the SX66's subpar BT implementation. I'm about to upgrade to a Globalsat BT 338, which is supposed to have much better GPS reception.
Im afriad not mate. But if you want to use it on the go, i.e. "Foot Patrol" instead of in your car then go for a bluetooth gps reciever. I recommend the new ones that use the SiRF Star III chipset. Heard their meant to be pretty good.
Hope this helps.
globalsat BT-338s work great with a BA

Can't use tomtom with telephone switched off.

Hello, I have installed TomTom Navigator 5 in my Qtek s200, but I can't connect it with the bluetooth GPS if the telephone is switched off.
Tomtom runs ok, but doesn't find GPS device.
If I switch on the telephone there isn't any problem, tomtom runs ok and find the GPS device.
I have used tomtom, and dell GPS bluetooth GPS reveivers.
Someone knows if is there a solution to use the GPS with the telephone utility switched off?
Thanks!
ive got this problem too with my xda 1 which i only use as a satnav unit
I use the xda with a wired gps but tomtom complains there is no gps device because the unit is in flight mode, even tho im not trying to use any wireless signals.
anyone help ?
thanks.
I don't know if I understand you right, but I might have an explanation for this. On my Qtek 9100, I can't use a bluetooth GPS-receiver when the device is in flight-mode. Flightmode disables all radiosignals...and since bluetooth is sort of a radio signal, it's disabled as well
A solution might be to turn off and on your device and "cancel" when you're asked to enter your SIMs PIN-code. This way, the device is not in flight mode (so bluetooth works) but the telephone-reception is disabled.
I hope this helps, if not: let me know!
--Marc
yes that works but the phone device is still switched on so uses battery
the gps in question in my situation is a wired unit going directly to my old xda 1's com port so shouldnt matter if the phone or bluetooth are on or not. Even if the pda was in flight mode it shouldnt affect use of my wired gps as there are no radio signals.
seems like a 'bug' in the tomtom software that if the pda is in any kind of flight mode including the phone being off, it decides it cant communicate with any gps, no matter how its connected, as if they expect everyone to be using bluetooth gps' and just include the wired configuration as a legacy function.
malty
maltloaf said:
yes that works but the phone device is still switched on so uses battery
the gps in question in my situation is a wired unit going directly to my old xda 1's com port so shouldnt matter if the phone or bluetooth are on or not. Even if the pda was in flight mode it shouldnt affect use of my wired gps as there are no radio signals.
seems like a 'bug' in the tomtom software that if the pda is in any kind of flight mode including the phone being off, it decides it cant communicate with any gps, no matter how its connected, as if they expect everyone to be using bluetooth gps' and just include the wired configuration as a legacy function.
malty
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Darn...sorry, I misunderstood. I'm using a bluetooth GPS-receiver myself, so I just took for granted that you also used a bluetooth device And indeed, looks like a bug...not very convenient.
--Marc
Concerning bluetooth devices:
This seems not to work with Windows Mobile 5.0.
With Pocket PC 2003 devices it is possible to use with TomTom bluetooth while in flight mode.
Here's a work around for Win 5.0:
1) Enable the phone and bluetooth in the Comm. manager.
2) Make the link to thte bluetooth gps in TomTom.
3) Disable the phone in the Comm. manager.
4) Return to TomTom.
The bluetooth link will be maintained until you exit Tomtom or try to link again.
This might also be the case with a wired gps.
AJ.

Bluetooth GPS going in the bin soon

I'm hoping for some instructions in "laymans" terms here, I'm happier playing around with cars than tapping away on a PDA!
Got an XDA 2 for work data communication, and just had the bright idea to buy a Bluetooth GPS BT74 receiver and TomTom6......and can I get it to comunicate!! Read plenty on here, but theres plenty of talk of Bluetooth device manager , bluetooth shortcut icons, comm port etc which I can't find. Only settings for Bluetooth are Start/settings/connections and the Bluetooth icon on the bottom right.....where am I going wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP..............going back out to the garage to play with some spanners for an hour or so ......to forget "Bluetooth" and "PDA"
Andy
i know some people have issues with this but i got a generic AUD$60 gps bt unit last night for my jam,
i had it working within a minute using tomtom 5.
just did the usual pair then launched tomtom and away it went,
get a free program called VisualGPSce i ran that first to make sure the phone was seeing the gps, it also shows the number of sats it can see and the number it connects to.
visual gps
Would you have the visual gps programme. if so could you post it ass an attachment to direct me were to get it?
Thanks
try to get the TomTom gps unit - it works out of the box with no configuration at all.
you need to set the gps up in the tomtom application select other bt gps and then slect com 5
It's been more than a month so I can only hope you got it working. But if not, here are some generic instructions. I don't own an XDA2 or BT74 (I bought the BT-359)
1. Turn bluetooth on on your XDA
2. Turn your GPS on and put it in pairing mode (if it requires a pairing mode, the manual will tell you if it does, if not, step 3).
3. Have your XDA 'search' for bluetooth devices. It should find the device (sometimes it calls it 'unknown' for a few seconds) and ask for a pin code. Usually it's 0000, again, check your manual.
4. Once they're paired (ie the XDA can see it) it may ask you what services you want, select 'serial port'. Then you have to somehow create an outgoing serial port. It may do this when you tell it you want to use the serial port or you may have to select 'new outgoing port. Pick a port number.
5. Now look on the CD that should have come with it and run a tool on your PDA called 'GPSINFO'. Plug in the com port number and whatever the manual tells you the baud rate should be and verify connectivity. If it can't find it at this point, stop and go back.
Next configure tomtom, install tomtom, run tomtom, go 'configuration' and setup your GPS as 'other gps' and plug in the above mentioned settings. Easy.

[Q] Bluetooth GPS Receiver?

Hi All, I just had a question about bluetooth gps receivers.
I read awhile back that the Android OS's bluetooth stack was not equipped to handle serial port protocol connections over bluetooth which is what you need for a external bluetooth gps receiver. Just wondering if any of the new ROMs (2.1 or 2.2) have looked into implementing this? or if there's already an app out there.
i've looked and seems all the apps i found on market seem to be just data logging and doesn't allow you to replace the internal gps functionality.
this is a pretty good question. I have not seen anything about this mentioned on any rom. I would lean towards no but since i dont know for sure i figured i would help bump the thread hoping someone who knows for sure can shed some light
Seems to be working now -- my Samsung Galaxy S (running 2.1) can use my external Bluetooth GPS receiver now (not natively, but using a app called 'Bluetooth GPS Mouse')
okay, the app 'bluetooth gps mouse' doesn't seem to work. keeps saying i'm in china somewhere.
i actually found another program called 'Bluetooth gps provider' that works pretty good, except for google nav...
I informed them about the bug and today they released an update, so Bluetooth GPS Mouse should work now as well

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