I've looked for an hour or so now, and I can't seem to find it again...did I see somewhere that someone had turned their Bluetooth capabilities on their Hermes into a GPS receiver for software that used GPS? Maybe I'm just making this up, but if so, can someone please show/tell me where/how?!?!?!
I think you mean that they hooked up with a "bluetooth GPS receiver unit" via BT.
The only two ways I'm aware of is to use your carrier's towers to triangulate your coordinates, and via an external GPS unit (I'm using the Cingular retailed TelNav unit va BT).
As far as I know, triangulation is possible, but it's not widely known how to do it.
The Hermes apparently has the GPS hardware, however it's not "enabled".
Is this what you have heard, or something else?
1. buy bluetooth gps
2. discover it (settings -> bluetooth)
3. add outgoing port
4. set up gps program port in windows (optional)
5. use gps software with port from 3 or 4
Hello
i just got my desire and i have some questions regarding bluetooth use.
maybe im just not finding the right menus but im a little bit stuck
so first the setup and what i have done: i have a bluetooth gps receiver and im trying to connect it to my desire.
i searched, then paired
and after that i get paired but not connected.
a) so how do i connect ? tapping on it didnt do anything and holding got me a menu to unpair the device
b) after i connect how do i create a serial port ? as i understand serial port profile should be usable on android
c) is there a way to autoconnect ?
d) are there any special menus for bluetooth other than the settings menu ?
i'm coming from winmo and im a little bit stuck here
and related to that, is there even a navigation software that can make use of a bluetooth gps receiver ? it seems at least navigon has no option to change the source
thanks in advance
I've not tried with a gps receiver, but I have to ask, why? Is the built in gps no good?
TulpiX said:
and related to that, is there even a navigation software that can make use of a bluetooth gps receiver ? it seems at least navigon has no option to change the source
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The currently available navigation software all use the Android system location services to get GPS information, and therefore do not have an option to connect to an external GPS unit.
I'm sure it a navigation solution developer could code their app to use external GPS if they so choose, as the APIs are there, but given that most Android devices have built in GPS they probably can't be bothered as it probably has limited appeal (though I do understand why some people might want it).
Regards,
Dave
hmm ok that answers some of my questions. thanks
what about the adding and connecting questions ?
I thought it would be of interesrt:
I found an app with which one can use an external bluetooth gps-mouse with many different apps. I am currently using it with google maps, C:geo, Motonav, even gpstest (where it only doesn't show the sat infos but everything else works).
Search for bluetooth gps provider in the market from mobile-j.de. It costs 1.99€ and it's well worth the money!
Now I have accuracy of 1.2 m and spot on tracks with my bt-gps.
Hugo
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I did not manage to find it, can you please post it here?
Great find. 2 Euro well spent. 1m accuracy inside my home with my trusty old bluetooth gps
Cheers,
Ric
PS can't post link but if you google on 'bluetooth gps provider' then it is in the top results.
that was mentioned previously in the GPS blasting topic
yet every one believed it was a dud
now somebody else post it, and every one takes it for granted... great... this is just great...
AllGamer said:
that was mentioned previously in the GPS blasting topic
yet every one believed it was a dud
now somebody else post it, and every one takes it for granted... great... this is just great...
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Even if it was posted in the "GPS blasting topic", which I suppose is the GPS Poll topic, before it didn't catch my attention although this is a topic, that I am very closely following. What I did see was an app that catches raw NMEA data and put's it on the screen. Now that program is not useable for anything, while the app I mentioned above can distribute the GPS data to many different programs running on the SGS.
And not meaning to offend you, but I think that this little app is worth an extra thread rather than to be mentioned in a several hundered post thread where it drowns easily under the posts.
And if it was you, who found this app at first: Your the Man!
Just bought this, and tested it on my external Bluetooth GPS and wow, this app works perfectly with my tracks, run.gps, alpinequest, gps test, gps status, runner...
Works with EZCam which is great. Because my car has an infra-red coated windscreen the phone's GPS doesn't work when the phone is placed in the dashboard Brodit mount. This makes it possible for me to place the GPS unit in the rear, where there is no infrared coating.
Cant get this to work with any programs...
EDIT: After a couple of reboots and reconnects to my BT-GPS it works.
Thank you for the tip!
Just a short update:
The bluetooth gps provider app works with sygic mobile maps as well!
Alternative - use your Bluetooth GPS receiver as GPS source
Try this as an alternative: Bluetooth GPS Mouse (I have a link here as well -- but I am somehow not allowed to post links in this forum ). Anyhow, you should be able to find the program -- just search for 'Bluetooth GPS Mouse' in the Market
You can test it freely and later buy the commercial version if it works for you as well!
mrmagmrmag said:
Try this as an alternative: Bluetooth GPS Mouse (I have a link here as well -- but I am somehow not allowed to post links in this forum ). Anyhow, you should be able to find the program -- just search for 'Bluetooth GPS Mouse' in the Market
You can test it freely and later buy the commercial version if it works for you as well!
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I am using bluetooth gps mouse and it works quite well with sygic, motonav, copilot, navigon etc.
Of course it also depends on the quality of your external bluetooth gps receiver. I use the nokia ld-3w with a sirfstarIII chipset and replaceble battery. Probably there are better ones out there, but this one was cheap and works good.
My question is wich app is better: GPS mouse or GPS provider?
Shall I just stick with GPS mouse?
Greetz
betoNL said:
I am using bluetooth gps mouse and it works quite well with sygic, motonav, copilot, navigon etc.
Of course it also depends on the quality of your external bluetooth gps receiver. I use the nokia ld-3w with a sirfstarIII chipset and replaceble battery. Probably there are better ones out there, but this one was cheap and works good.
My question is wich app is better: GPS mouse or GPS provider?
Shall I just stick with GPS mouse?
Greetz
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I bought both program & i certainly want to recommend GPS provider over GPS mouse:
Pros of GPS Provider over GPS Mouse:
1. Icon on notification bar showing the program is running
2. Satellites signal status displayed in the program windows
3. The gps data streaming is smooth, i tested both with Papago satnav, GPS Provide makes the position mark run smoothly while GPS mouse cause the position pointer jerk while moving --> very weird behavior
So far both program stable, no force close encounter.
My final words, GPS mouse still premature...
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I bought both program & i certainly want to recommend GPS provider over GPS mouse:
Pros of GPS Provider over GPS Mouse:
1. Icon on notification bar showing the program is running
2. Satellites signal status displayed in the program windows
3. The gps data streaming is smooth, i tested both with Papago satnav, GPS Provide makes the position mark run smoothly while GPS mouse cause the position pointer jerk while moving --> very weird behavior
So far both program stable, no force close encounter.
My final words, GPS mouse still premature...
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OK Thanks for your reply!
Just one more question:
With GPS provider do you also have to enable "allow mock locations" (Settings » Applicatios » Development » Allow mock locations) ?
Greetz
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yc1437 said:
I bought both program & i certainly want to recommend GPS provider over GPS mouse:
Pros of GPS Provider over GPS Mouse:
1. Icon on notification bar showing the program is running
2. Satellites signal status displayed in the program windows
3. The gps data streaming is smooth, i tested both with Papago satnav, GPS Provide makes the position mark run smoothly while GPS mouse cause the position pointer jerk while moving --> very weird behavior
So far both program stable, no force close encounter.
My final words, GPS mouse still premature...
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Points 1 and 2 have been adressed by them now -- so you have both a status icon and a display of satellite SNR values. Another plus is that you can purchase the program outside of the Android market as well (which is a bonus as the market is not available in many countries).
I don't have problems with the position jerking around, but if there is an issue and you report it to them I guess it will be fixed soon.
Didn't try GPS Provider yet
Bluetooth GPS Mouse unlimited is doing great though...
Hi, I use Bluetooth gps mouse. I have zero problems.
I have try to use it with the app gps test but don't display the sattelites on this app.
Do you know a similar app to work with external gps so as can check how meny sattelites, signal e.t.c?
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Hi, I use Bluetooth gps mouse. I have zero problems.
I have try to use it with the app gps test but don't display the sattelites on this app.
Do you know a similar app to work with external gps so as can check how meny sattelites, signal e.t.c?
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There is a free app called Bluetooth GPS form googoo android (nothing to do with "bluetooth gps mouse).
It connects to your external BT device (without the need of gps mouse)and gives nice readings and even your position on map (and that's all it does)
Have fun
Galaxy S GPS sucks and I didn't want to pay for something like that.
I don't understand either why I should give phone call or network access to such an application...
So I've have developed mine:
it' free,
it's open-source (you can verify what it's really doing and you can improve it!),
it just asks for needed permissions.
The application, as the previous one, allows to use an external bluetooth GPS on Android devices:
The application starts a service, then connects to a Bluetooth device (NMEA GPS) and creates a mock GPS provider which can be used to replace the internal GPS.
It's also possible to log the external GPS NMEA data in a file on the device.
The app needs the following permissions:
bluetooth and bluetooth admin (connection to the GPS device),
location and mock location (replace the GPS location provider by a new one using the bluetooth GPS device),
write external storage (if you want to log the NMEA data into a file on the sdcard).
It should run on all android devices (2.0 and above) and NMEA bluetooth devices.
I have tested it with a GlobalSat BT-338 bluetooth GPS (SiRF III), a Galaxy S (I9000) and a HTC Sapphire (Froyo CM-6).
It works with Google Maps, Wikitude, GoPenS and my own personal navigation app. Normally, it should work with all applications that use Android official location API.
Notes: in order to install the app:
enable Settings/Applications/Unknown sources,
enable Settings/Applications/Development/Allow mock locations,
download and install the apk.
You have also, of course, to enable bluetooth and pair the the phone with the GPS.
Project page:
Bluetooth GPS for Android on SourceForge
BlueGPS4Droid apk: BlueGps4Droid_1.0.apk
Just installed it, brilliant, I had a small BT GPS lying around anyway so I can now use it when GPS is important and not have to rely on the very flakey SGS GPS.
I hope Samsung is reading these forums!
Seeing as I can't get a satellite lock with the internal GPS on my Archos 80 G9 (running stock 4.0.6) I was wondering if it would be worth getting a bluetooth GPS module.
I can pick one up for about £15 on eBay and there are a couple of apps on the Play store that are designed to support these modules.
Has anyone tried one of these with their G9?
What are your experiences?
Alternatively does anyone know for sure if Archos are planning any upgrades to their firmware specifically to address the GPS issues that many appear to be having?
(I know that for some people the internal GPS is working fine on their G9, but it seems it's a bit like the wi-fi issue where some people are unaffected and yet others are having problems)
When you are in the house, you never have a chance to get a signal
Did you try it outside?! And did you wait a little bit?! My Galaxy 5 needs 4-5 mins
to get a fix-sattelite! Normaly you shouldn´t have problems with that...
And Archos is updating their firmware more or less every 4 weeks! So you have a good chance to get a fix for that, if it´s a bug...
Yeah I took my tablet out to an open field last weekend and left it for well over an hour and didn't even catch a glimpse of one satellite.
My daughter has a cheap ZTE phone and can always get an instant lock. Makes me jealous!
Have you tried?
This may seem like a dumb answer but I have found that my 80g9 sometimes loses GPS lock and all satellites if I have been indoors for a while or had the tablet on sleep. If I then turn off the GPS under settings and then re enable the GPS works fine. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the advice but I have tried your suggestion.
I have tried everything conceivable with no success.
It might be considered bad form but I'll reply to my own original question anyway.
I bought a Bluetooth GPS keyring from eBay for £7 inc. delivery and along with the Bluetooth GPS app I'm getting great results.
Might help someone in future...
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It might be considered bad form but I'll reply to my own original question anyway.
I bought a Bluetooth GPS keyring from eBay for £7 inc. delivery and along with the Bluetooth GPS app I'm getting great results.
Might help someone in future...
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hi,
you are not alone
i have the same problem with my 101g9. gps did not work at all since honeycomb until ics 4.07 on my tablet.
can you tell us which gps mouse do you have and which bluetooth app is in use? i'm interesting to hear more about a working combination because archos cannot fix the gps problem for all devices (i guess). seems, i need an external bt receiver too.
thanks for info
I use "Bluetooth GPS" by "Googoo Android" from Google Play to connect.
The receiver is listed on eBay as "Vodafone keyring receiver 51 ch GPS sat nav receiver for laptops and mobiles"
I bought this because it is so small; really handy to keep on my keyring.
The seller seems to have loads of the same for sale.
I hope this is useful.
yep, very useful.
thanks a lot
holux
Hi,
I can use my Holux M-1200 USB Gps, on my G101. It works far, far, better than the built in GPS. It locks on many satellites even in the house.
I cannot use the Archos one on V4.06, only on V 3.2.80 and ONLY with WiFi assist on!
The Archos GPS really sucks!
cheers
P
superpat999 said:
Hi,
I can use my Holux M-1200 USB Gps, on my G101. It works far, far, better than the built in GPS. It locks on many satellites even in the house.
I cannot use the Archos one on V4.06, only on V 3.2.80 and ONLY with WiFi assist on!
The Archos GPS really sucks!
cheers
P
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hi,
the holux m-1200 can work as bluetooth device or over usb cable. you use it via usb?
Holux Bluetooth
Hi,
Yes, The M-1200 works well on Bluetooth.
There are a number of steps to take to get it working.
1. Install Bluetooth GPS from Play.com
2. Go to Settings and turn OFF GPS, and Google location services
4. In Settings go to Developer options and turn ON "Allow Mock Locations"
5. Pair and connect Holux M-1200 to Archos tablet.
6. Run Bluetooth GPS. On its main page enable mock GPS Provider, and Connect.
7. If it doesn't connect, go to Bluetooth GPS settings and try various settings in "Connection Problems related". ( I ticked all three choices)
run any GPS app, Syric, mmTracker, Google maps, they all work fine!
cheers
Patrick
I paired the Qstarz 818XT I have and it would not show up, in GPS Test software. Has anyone successfully gotten a bluetooth GPS to work with the tablet? It's not a deal breaker for me, but it would be nice to have the option of GPS.
I use the tablet with a Dual XGPS150A, no problem. You may need to use an app called "Bluetooth GPS" and enable mock locations so that other apps think they are getting an internal GPS feed.
Thanks, it works now.