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O2 XDA IIs, unleashed.

Hello people
I just got a new XDA IIs from O2.
This thread will hopefully serve purpose to all other new users of the XDA IIs as well.
I just got it and wondering how I can get the best of it like all you lot. You all seem to know quite a lot about it.
Here are the details I managed to pull out from it.
ROM version: 1.31.00 WWE
ROM date: 12/03/04
Radio version: 1.06.00
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExROM versiom: 1.31.139 WWE
Windows Mobile 2003 SE
Version: 4.21.1088 (Build 14132)
Processor Intel(R) PXA263
Bluetooth for Windows CE
BT-PPC/PE Version 1.0.0 Build 3500
I beleive I need to update this to the latest of whatever is out there. I dont know what good they would do to the PDA either.
From reading some of the posts here on the forum, I managed to find out about Battery Pack Pro v2 and ewallet. These are the only 2 software I installed. Oh yes, I got hold of serial keys for both of these so anyone who needs the serials, your problem is solved. Just sent me a msg.
Futhermore, I have installed the GPRS monitor which I cant find much use of.
Other software:
Skype
Macromedia flash player
FonixVoiceDial
I have beebn browsing on the GPRS alot as well, I would apreciate confirmation that GPRS on o2 is free.
I was wondering how to upgrade the windows media player 9.
As you all can see, I just got it and trying to get the most of it. Any help would be apreciated. All the newbies check the thread as much as possible, someone is bound to help.
I just purchased a backup copy of tomtom 5 from ebay for a few quid (not original apparently). He is shipping it soon. The guy claims its unlocked etc. I hope I can make it work. Any advice?
I will purchase an SD card and bluetooth receiver soon for tomtom. Anything I need to know before I do ?
I was wondering what games I can put on it as well. I can come up with so many questions. I have been looking at other posts as well. For instance, fixing the camera drivers for better picture quality and playing an MP3 as a ringtone. These threds are started where the problem arises rather than how to do it from scratch, so a bit lost there.
I am just looking for some free advice. God bless.

First off ditch the O2 rubbish that came with the phone ( the active interface) it will reduce the number of times it crashes - hard reset then when prompted select Corporate user and enter 0506 as the key. As for TT5 it works fine with my O2XDAII2 but NOT with bluetooth GPS - I use bluetooth for my headset and found it terminated the GPS when I hang up from a call - now using a wired GPS and BT headset its all fine. As for MP3 as a ringtone put it on the PDA nav to it in file explorer tap and hold then from the pop up box select "set as ringtone" - works fine for me. You do have the latest firmware / OS as far as O2 is concerned, others can comment if this is any good or not. One other tip if when you make a call or answer an inbound there is no one there - i.e. you can't hear anyone, select bluetooth on then off and re-make the call - don't know why it does this as its real anoying - Finally had two bills from O2 since I got my XDA and neither had any charge pertainin to the use of GPRS, and I was using it but not too much as I use WIFI its quicker and free in my local pub!! mike

Hey and thanks for responding.
So you reckon a hard reset wout fix the crashes eh, I'll have to try that, just that I installed a lot of stuff on this and would need to purchase an SD card to do all the backup. All in good time though.
I tried out what you said about navigating to the MP3 file and then holding down choosing SET AS RINGTONE thing, there is no such option on my set. Maybe some sort of driver needs to be installed?
Thanks for the tip for the GPS wired set. I will definitely go for that. I am using the Nokia bluetooth headset, do you think I should switch to Jabra BT250?
Can anyone comment on the ROM updates?
What is Radio? What does that mean?

Alitech,
Have a read through this first:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel

Thanks for the link. I have checked it out. I will take it slow with the updates, dont want to muck up you know.
You seem to have all the latest Roms installed. Well done.

alitech said:
Can anyone comment on the ROM updates?
What is Radio? What does that mean?
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radio is the software that turns the pda into a mobile fone, also functions the bluetooth, tho i am led to beleive that, so someone correct me if i am wrong,
you are on o2's rom of 1.31.00 WWE, you seriously need to upgrade, but not on an o2 rom, i would suggest an upgrade to 1.40, but only if you dont mind playing with it, cos first timers tend to need help after they cannot get it to startup again, lol, many a time i have helped people after this, lol, but imate 1.40 is a good rom, which i use and it is as stable as it is ever going to get, there is no o2 rubbish, altho i did like it, it is pointless when it creates more harm than good. bluetooth will work better, but only for sending files and so on..... as it will upgrade to BT 3900. oh and wm10 which is an added bonus,
i have heard on the other hand that people have had problems with this rom, but so far, ive had it about 2-3 months now, and its never given me a problem!!!..so best to read wiki and browse the forums for 1.40 rom questions.
if you decide to upgrade to a better rom, and need help, just ask us on here and we will be happy to help.... or pm me and i sort you out.....
joey. 8)

Thanks for your offer joey. I will definitely send you a pm once i have read all that needs to be read. I will check out everything in detail.
I dont think any other phone compares to these customizable mofos. We rule.

I have found the O2 interface makes the IIs very unstable. There are threads that give details of how to remove it, but I have attached a text file giving the sequence. This does not need a hard reset at any stage, so you can keep all the software you have already loaded.
If you do at any time need to hard reset the O2 interface is automatically reloaded and so you will need to go through this process again.

missing attachment from last post

Give up here is the text instead!
O2 Active GUI removal
O2 seems to have been trying to make it more difficult to remove it this time, but once you get it cleared out the unit operates a lot faster.
1) Remove "connection.exe" in the "Windows/startup/ folder
2) Remove "xpdr_02" in the Windows/fonts/ folder
3) soft reset
4) Unistall "O2 Active UI"- note this will fail, but it gets rid of some items
5) Soft reset
6) Either from your PC, using ActiveSync or on the XDA IIs using file explorer, remove the entire "Mobile Solutions" folder from the windows/ folder.
7) Unistall "O2 Active UI" again - which again will fail, should this time advise program removed but again will indicate some items not removed
8) Remove the entire "ms" folder from the windows/ folder which should now be empty.
9) Soft reset
10) Check "remove programme" in settings to make sure that o2 active UI no longer appears in the list
11) Clear at last, well not quite. There is still a registry entry lurking that can be removed using "remover" or similar.

SPB Plus makes my XDA IIs sluggish

Hi, SPB plus looks like a great app, however have anyone experience thesame problem as mine?. I'm running WM5 and no cooked rom and when I tried this apps. it really makes my system run so so so slow, so that forces me to uninstall this app. (I have tried both versions 2.5 & 3 with no luck)
Have anyone got some idea on any conflict with WM5 and how to fix the conflict if there is any....
Thanks.....
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hi, im also using XDA IIS and when i installed spb plus 3.0 on it, everytime i send a SMS, the message is sent twice... what must the problem with it... its a gud application but i was also forced to uninstall it..
ROM version: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 3/10/05
Radio Version: 1.12.00
Protocol Version 1337.42
Ext ROM version 1.40.923 WWE

that's what I feel too.. SPB makes my unit sluggish...
Josh,
To avoid sending double SMS. Don't close your messaging after sending the SMS.. just let it go to minimized mode.
You can set it by putting tmail.exe in the exception box in SPB plus.. That way when you close all, it will still remain open in the background.

Also if you have the SD card monitor on the today screen, turn it off. It'll make the unit hesitate for 5-6 seconds before going to the today screen.

true
Adding apps to WM5 makes it really slow, i run minimun apps to keep mine ok

I've been using PocketPlus for the past 6 months and really like it, but I uninstalled it recently and switched to iLauncher because I just couldn't handle how slow my device becomes when I use PocketPlus.

I get the double SMS too ;(
Thanks guys its been driving me crazy I use SBP 2.5 and my girlfriend noticed i was sendign her the same message again and again-lol i was even on the point of calling Orange customer service to try to work it out!
I will add the message program to the exceptions on spb i think
Thanks guys

any way to speed up the pda after installation of spb plus 3?

i also found that is the sbp plus working very slow on mine too. so have any patch or solution for it? :?

Will try disabling my (Today plugin) on SX66 with WM5, if see if it's any faster for the next few days then.

Duh! My Orbit ate my memory !!!

I noticed something peculiar today and wanted to know if anyone else faced it...Tried searching forum on this...but not seen..
I have an O2 Orbit with Bepe WM6 no fancy apps except Tomtom.
Today drove appx 40x2 miles return - the GPS worked fine, battery was great. But when I started off I remembered my Program memory was appx 24.8 free and a soft reset maybe a day before - by the time i returned home in evening - it went down to 13.2MB free - there were no programs running - i had closed tomtom and anything else that was running and still did not get my memory back.
I noticed the memory was low - coz once i returned home and switched off tomtom - i received a call and found the keypad very slow and barely unresponsive...so checked running programs and found calender running...shut that and still the mem was low...no impact !
then when i did a soft reset - voila! it was back ! the memory came back to 24.6 - so where did the memory go?
Is tomtom causing a leak???
is is windows itself?
any thoughts?

I am having a similar problem with both B&B Rom (v3) and the official HTC ROM.
After soft reset the phone has 24mb of program memory. I have the X button set to close apps on press of X so I know that programs are not left running.
After about 24-36 hours I have 2mb left. This is happening every soft reset.
I only have the following installed if it helps:-
WM6 HTC Rom
Phoneweaver (on today screen)
TodayAgenda (on today screen)
pTravelAlarm (on today screen)
TomTom 6 (installed but not used yet)
VJDevicelock
BatteryStatusExt 1.04
oxiosmemory
WindowsLive (on today screen) - ROM built in version set to sync with hotmail "as items arrive". I do not use Messenger
I hope that this can give some insight as I am getting fed up with having to soft reset every day or 2!

Pretty sure it's a windows fault. I also saw that using the first versions of WM6 we had, and it didn't tally with any application use.
I no longer see it using the same applications in a WM6 v3.7 environment, so my advice to you is upgrade that OS.

Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately I am using ROM version: 3.7.707.1 which is the official "HTC Asia" release, and the problem still exists.
Dae

daesimps said:
Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately I am using ROM version: 3.7.707.1 which is the official "HTC Asia" release, and the problem still exists.
Dae
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I am using the same version and I do not have any problems, no memory loss, nothing.

Are you using Tomtom/GPS also? Maybe it has something to do with the GPS?

devdarshan said:
Are you using Tomtom/GPS also? Maybe it has something to do with the GPS?
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I am using Tomtom 6, Pocket informant, Resco explorer, Resco Radio, Core Player, Resco Audio, Photo viewer, Style Tap, Spb Brain evolution, and Virtual pool mobile. All with no problems.

devdarshan said:
Are you using Tomtom/GPS also? Maybe it has something to do with the GPS?
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Please see me previous post "TomTom 6 (installed but not used yet)"

Maybe...
Hey.. maybe it works, kind of like the RAM in a computer. when you use your com. it also fills up your ram.
Maybe the phones just dont discard the temp info in the RAM as well as our computers??
...Just a thought

Tomtom s..l..o..w..! (Official Dopod ROM)

Has anyone else had any issues with Tomtom Navigator 6 since upgrading to WM6 (offical SEA ROM)?
Under my old buggy WM5 ROM, it was perfect. As part of the WM6 upgrade I reinstalled it, and not it is unusably slow. It takes about 5 seconds between screen refreshes etc... you miss your turns by the time they are announced.
Does anyone know the cause or fixes? I've done a forum search and the problem has been reported on a couple of threads, but no real solution.
Some initial questions:
Under WM6, are people using the GPS manager in system settings? Or just pointing TT6 at the COM port directly? (What should the baud rate be set to?)
Is tngpseng.exe still required (never been entirely sure what this does exactly)
Does running it from the storage card (SanDisk 4GB) cause any performance hit? (I'm hoping not as my device memory is full)
The other chance I made is upgrading to the latest Australian maps. (Sinsis v675?) Are these known to be worse performance wise?
Does anyone else have Hermes, WM6 (official), TTN6, latest Australia maps working? can you post your settings?
Any help greatly appreciated!

Zilch said:
Has anyone else had any issues with Tomtom Navigator 6 since upgrading to WM6 (offical SEA ROM)?
Under my old buggy WM5 ROM, it was perfect. As part of the WM6 upgrade I reinstalled it, and not it is unusably slow. It takes about 5 seconds between screen refreshes etc... you miss your turns by the time they are announced.
Does anyone know the cause or fixes? I've done a forum search and the problem has been reported on a couple of threads, but no real solution.
Some initial questions:
Under WM6, are people using the GPS manager in system settings? Or just pointing TT6 at the COM port directly? (What should the baud rate be set to?)
Is tngpseng.exe still required (never been entirely sure what this does exactly)
Does running it from the storage card (SanDisk 4GB) cause any performance hit? (I'm hoping not as my device memory is full)
The other chance I made is upgrading to the latest Australian maps. (Sinsis v675?) Are these known to be worse performance wise?
Does anyone else have Hermes, WM6 (official), TTN6, latest Australia maps working? can you post your settings?
Any help greatly appreciated!
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MrVanx's BT Receiver Setup
Works fine with me.
TT v6.201 (Build 7160)
OZ Map v675.1431

Zilch said:
Has anyone else had any issues with Tomtom Navigator 6 since upgrading to WM6 (offical SEA ROM)?
Under my old buggy WM5 ROM, it was perfect. As part of the WM6 upgrade I reinstalled it, and not it is unusably slow. It takes about 5 seconds between screen refreshes etc... you miss your turns by the time they are announced.
Does anyone know the cause or fixes? I've done a forum search and the problem has been reported on a couple of threads, but no real solution.
Some initial questions:
Under WM6, ....
Any help greatly appreciated!
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Not related to WM6 but have you checked the number of Points of Interest that TT6 is trying to display. I use TT6 and have noticed no problems with WM6 so far - but regardless of ROM I found that unless I turned off the POIs that TT6 slowed right down and kept freezing.
Regards

tony.wheeler said:
Not related to WM6 but have you checked the number of Points of Interest that TT6 is trying to display. I use TT6 and have noticed no problems with WM6 so far - but regardless of ROM I found that unless I turned off the POIs that TT6 slowed right down and kept freezing.
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Thanks Tony. I've turned them all off except the speed/red-light cameras and it does seem to have helped. (I won't know 100% until I take it out in the car, but it seems much faster at home on my balcony!)
The strange thing is I many POIs enabled on the previous install under WM6/older maps. Maybe the newer map is larger or something.
Does anyone know if custom POIs are more performance intensive than the build in ones?

I've had some kind of issue with TomTom since upgrading from Black Dymond (first to Magik and now to Satin). On the first upgrade I had to reregister my unit with my account to get access to my plus content (device ID change).
Now, I intermittently get a warning that it cannot find some file. I can't replicate it reliably and haven't had a chance to note the missing file. I suspect it has something with how TomTom is accessing info on the card.
My problem only presents itself when shutting down, so it's not a real issue for me. If it was, like yours is, I would first try increasing your caches. If that doesn't work, try going into the TomTom manager console when synced with the computer and remove everything (program, maps, voices, etc.) from your device/card and then reinstall it (make sure you have your disk or a backup, plus your registration code). If it has anything to do with lost file links, this should solve it theoretically.
I suspect your issues are due to either caching or lost links in TomTom itself, or both.

Tomtom has some problems with some wm6 roms not all.
My experience:
It worked fine with black dymond. No slowdown. No Problem.
It was painfully slow with black majik
It was OK with VP3g's v2.0 but after I added HTC home plug it slowed down considerably
Currently I am running latest Black Satin and TomTom runs just fine, stable, superfast, no freezes. This time I am going to stay away from HTC home plug.

You do not have shut down all of the 'nice to haves' (POI's) in such unnecessary and draconian fashion, quote "have you checked the number of Points of Interest that TT6 is trying to display".
Like Quist, I beleive the build of the ROM is much more at issue.
From my observations - Dopod / Black Satin / Sleuth's and Black Dymond are not at a problem.
I have noted significant refresh delays when using Schaps and Black Majik.
Good luck.

I've never seen TomTom run as fast as it does on my phone with vp3G's 3.0 WM6 rom.
I'm running TomTom version 6.100 (8330)

Im using Schaps 3.57a with TT6. So fast. Cold boot around 10s to 20s. Thanks

Artemis Vanilla 4.01 and Touch 4.01 issues

I have serious problems with Touch 4.01 and even Vanilla 4.01 reported as stable. It is fare away to be stable at all. Continuous freezing the mobile phone functionality. Telephone looks like everything is fine, but SMSes are not delivered and calls are in my voice mailbox. To find out the problem, I have downloaded Bepe's Artemis kitchen 2.1, what was (my feeling) the source of this ROM. And possibly recognized the problem. The Bepe issued two versions, second is fixed. But it seems that this Vanilla and Touch (4.01) has been generated by the first one. I have checked the size, date and time of OEMDrivers and they are different. Meschle, is it possible to generate your ROM by this fixed version? Thanks in advance.

josef.bilek said:
I have serious problems with Touch 4.01 and even Vanilla 4.01 reported as stable. It is fare away to be stable at all. Continuous freezing the mobile phone functionality. Telephone looks like everything is fine, but SMSes are not delivered and calls are in my voice mailbox. To find out the problem, I have downloaded Bepe's Artemis kitchen 2.1, what was (my feeling) the source of this ROM. And possibly recognized the problem. The Bepe issued two versions, second is fixed. But it seems that this Vanilla and Touch (4.01) has been generated by the first one. I have checked the size, date and time of OEMDrivers and they are different. Meschle, is it possible to generate your ROM by this fixed version? Thanks in advance.
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Hi, how long do u have such problems and who is ur mobile operator. according to ur name I suppose that u r from Czech Rep.
I'm asking b'cause during last weekend I had also problem with my phone which leaded to reflashing of my phone but it was problem of operator.
I'm by O2 and have O2 XDA Orbit. I wasn't able to get any sms or report of delivery, i could send them only. and now i have bit different problem, sometimes sms from me is delivered, is shown in phone but it is something what i sended already before and then it dissapears from phone reciever's phone.
Such serious problems with ROM are strange, b'cuause those ROMs are out more then month and as I know, nobody had the same problem as u. I'm using Touch 4.01 without cube from first day when it was published here with no problem. i'm not couting problem with memory leaking which is probably problem of wm6.1 rom in general then Touch 4.01.

No, I am not only one who referring this problem. Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375930
Correct, I am from CZ and using T-Mobile, but in roaming quite often. But it happens independently on network. Touch Full 4.01 was more or less horrible, Vanilla 4.01 is better, but still time to time is freezing the radio part. To avoid discussion about radios, I have tried last 3 versions with the same result (3.08,2.98,2.97). But I really believe that problem is with OEMDrivers in Bepe's Kitchen. What Bepe even highlighted, that these drivers in first version are for different type of phone. The most stable version, what I had, it was B&B4.2 for more than 1/2 year. But of course WM6.1 is much faster. It was my reason for upgrade.

ok, then i cannot help, this is up on guys which r cooking ROMs.
will cross my fingers for u to solve this problem. it is nice from guys that they provided new ROMs based od WM 6.1 two months earlier than Macro**** but such serious problem takes us back to prehistory, b'cause having phone with which u r scared to call b'cause of freezing has no point.

Same problem here, flashed a lot of different roms to my device but only having these freeze problems since touch 4.01.
Right now it's only once per week. But it's been much worse: reboot, lock after 30 secs, freeze 5 secs later, repeat. Had to reflash my device. (And i always flash twice with a new rom).
I hope the fix is as easy as just building the rom with a newer version kitchen.

same problem for me.
i am running 4.01 Touch with full cube, operator is orange netherlands.
sometimes i have to reset the phone 3 times a day, after that i get a whole lot of sms (normal) and the calls i missed.
going to try 4.02 now, hope that's one's better

doesnt matter what version do you use - but always flash twice(one by one) and make a hard reset after flashing. Result is - much more stable work.

@d3ton4tor
I'm on dutch orange too, but haven't had a problem with touch lite 4.01. I'm using touch vanilla 4.02 now and still no probs.. I've got a MDA Compact tho..

I never had any problems with 4.01, or any of the previous roms, but since using 4.02 i have had several lockups now, about once a week. So maybe i better reflash it again see if that cures it ?

It is interesting. I have made update for Touch Vanilla 4.02 and everything works perfect. Sometime the less is more. I would never go for all Cube staff, it is only the memory eater from my perspective. I have realized that I can remove from StartUp folder WiFi link (I have T-Mobile ARTE110 - WiFi missing) and it is better. Under more or less conditions above 20 MB and it is very valuable especially for navigation SW like iGO.

Try PagePool 8M
Try PagePool 8M.
Pagepool
My English is so bad.

Or try the 4.02 it works fine here in my HTC 3300 also t-mobile client ;-).
Flashed it yesterday and works fine no freeze or what ever, even gps and radio works fine.
Greetz THeM

Destinator n maps
hey i just installed destinator 7 on my o2 orbit it doesnt detect the map infact no map at all
can any1 help me with this???

Hi,
You need to ensure that the maps folder is included in the destinator apps folder. That is when your destinator would be able to detect the maps.
By the way can you share your Destinator 7 (Mumbai Map) with me ??
Regards,
kailash

I too have problems with the Touch 4.1 vanilla rom but my issues manifested themselves after I had been using the rom for a while without any problems. Now I run out of memory quicker when using PIE and have to reset a lot more. Also sometimes am unable to connect to GPRS/EDGE without a reset. I will be trying any new roms that come out but its becoming clear to me that I need to upgrade.