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Boot problem when using today plugins like SPB Pocket Plus

Whe I use any of the today plugins like SPB pocket Plus most of the times after a soft reset the PPC freezes... It may needs 10 soft resets to work again!!!
Any help with this would be really appreciated...
Qtek 9090
Rom:
1.22.00 WWE
Ext ROM:
1.22.167 WWE
I know people with I-mate roms with no problem!! Should I put I-mate's rom??

I have the same issues..
I just stopped using those programs for that reason.
MS VOICE COMMAND 1.0 was bad for that too.

So I am not the only one!! :? :? :?
That's damn bad!!!
I've read this on the SPB site.. That the HTCs have this problem!! :x :x
The only solution is before a soft reset to remove the programm from the "today"... :twisted:

Are you using battery pack as well?
I had the same problem on my qtek9090.
I have done a hard reset and have installed all my programs one by one, but first SBP.
Than i have testes to istall Battery pack later on as last one and .....
no problems anymore. But why use Battery pack if you use SBP? So i de installed Battery pach.
Everything is working fine now for the last months.
Andre le Fevre

I tried them one at a time of course..
With SPB now you don't have a problem? It was the first programm you installed? What do you have it to show on the today screen? Apart from the program shortcuts?
ROM version?

I have had no such problems with my Qtek 9090, from the first ROM that it came with to the one I'm using now. I use PocketPlus 2.2 and T-Agenda, and it works perfectly.

i am using Tweak 2.41, Pocket Plus 2.2 and Pocket Hack Master 3.05. The results are that, although they are enhancement tools, but will slower my XDA IIs sometimes.... Therefore, they are not as stable as I expected. As a result, I removed them... Now, my machine work great and response fast (but two of ten times are slow especially I turn it on after few hours).

I think this is a rom dependent problem.

HELP! cant make phone calls ... (problem with SIM?)

OK, I love my IIs, i've had no problems, bar this one... and it's quite a big problem.
I dont know whats causing it, but every now and then, after the IIs has been running (ie, i haven't given a soft-reset), i cannot call anyone, and no one can call me (or send smses, receive smses).
Its annoying because I dont know when its happen until i try and send an sms.
All I know is that when i try and call someone i just hear 'beep beep beep' and when someone calls me it gets diverted to my voicemail.
A soft reset always fixes it right up - anyone else had this problem??

Here is the reason:
O2 Xda IIs (Optus - Australia)
R 1.02.00
G 1337.32
D 1.12.62 WWE
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You should update to:
R 1.06.02
G 1337.32
D 1.31.00 WWE

thankyou!! how exactly do i do that?

Is that the solution? I right now have:
Rom version: 1.22.00 WWE
Rom Date: 10/22/04
Radio version: 1.06.02
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExtRom version: 1.22.169 WWE
Where do I find the other Rom update???
With Rom above I have the same problem as stated before!

Hi
had the same problem, i was useing a task manager "magicbutton" and it was killing the phone app.....
hope it helps

copex said:
Hi
had the same problem, i was useing a task manager "magicbutton" and it was killing the phone app.....
hope it helps
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Damn I use Pocketnav, which also says it does!! Would that be the problem? But it also happens when I don't close programs for a long time, so even the phone app!!

Thank you thank you thank you!
I was running magic button, and was finding that the phone app was working, and I could connect, but there'd be no audio.
Magicbutton would try to kill the phone app, but would fail. I'm guessing that it left the phone app in a confused state!
Stopping running magicbutton appears to have solved the problem - but I now have the problem that lots of apps are hanging around in memory.
Anyone found a "magicbutton" like solution that coexists with Phone?
Ta,
Nick.

try "my tools" by micro cheng. it's a nice freeware and has been runnimg smoothly on my device for one week now.

Or use SPB Pocket Plus, it has a task closer build in! It is not freeware, but is very great value!

yeah i use that I'm currently just testing it about twice a day.. i expect (unless there's a fault with the ROM) that its some random software i'm running...

benzothegreat said:
yeah i use that I'm currently just testing it about twice a day.. i expect (unless there's a fault with the ROM) that its some random software i'm running...
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Benzo, if it makes you feel any better, I have exactly the same set-up as you. Even the same telco.
What's your list of installed software?
Here's mine:
Avantgo Client
Macromedia Flash Player ActiveX
Spb Pocket Plus 2.2
Cirond pocketWinc
Wei's Soft SoftReset
Mamaich Phone Extension
O2 Service
Birdsoft All-In Hold'Em
SBSH.net PocketWeather
Redshift Legacy
O2 O2 Service
MpegTV PocketTV
MohairSofa Calendar+ Today Plug-In
O2 Connect
Hope we can track it down!

Could it be task manager of SPB Pocket Plus causing problems too??

i dont *think* its pocket plus, the phone has been running for about 2 days now without a reset and no problems.. i have a weird feeling that it *possibly* is when i activesync via bluetooth? anyone else think that could be a possibility? guess i could trial it tonight after work

benzothegreat said:
i dont *think* its pocket plus, the phone has been running for about 2 days now without a reset and no problems.. i have a weird feeling that it *possibly* is when i activesync via bluetooth? anyone else think that could be a possibility? guess i could trial it tonight after work
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I haven't done a AS via bluetooth for weeks. My problems are random, every few days.
I'm going to start removing programs, one by one, and track this gremlin down!

damn! was hoping that might be the problem.. Kevin, what version ROM have you got? I got my iis second week of Jan, and i haven't upgraded the ROMs yet.. I'm thinking maybe this could fix the problem?

benzothegreat said:
damn! was hoping that might be the problem.. Kevin, what version ROM have you got? I got my iis second week of Jan, and i haven't upgraded the ROMs yet.. I'm thinking maybe this could fix the problem?
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Mine is EXACTLY the same as yours .... that's why I wanted to know what software you have installed!
I didn't know there WAS a ROM upgrade available?

yeah - check out the second post in this thread.. you can up the radio rom and the regular rom.. apparently it doesn't make a difference to this problem tho... but hey, i haven't had a soft reset in a couple of days and everything is going great!
of course i have no idea how to upgrade my rom... i've searched through the forums but there's no step-by-step guide.. and plus, i dont want to have to re-install everything onto my pda if the rom isn't the problem!

I also have the same problem.
Apps include:
Avantgo Client
Spb Pocket Plus 2.2
O2 Connect (stopped from the start menu, ie. requires manual connect)
Pocket Informant
Vito Voice Dialer
Pocket TV
Resco File Explorer
Resco Stickies
Resco Photo Viewer
Spb Finance
Spb GPRS Monitor
Age Of Empires
Spb Arkball
Adobe Reader 2.0
Co Pilot Live
I am also using Optus and get the problem with the phone, SMS and GPRS. After calling Optus for assistance the answer has been a regular soft reset.
I am hoping there is a fix out there.
Cheers,
AP.

acp said:
I also have the same problem.
Apps include:
Avantgo Client
Spb Pocket Plus 2.2
O2 Connect (stopped from the start menu, ie. requires manual connect)
Pocket Informant
Vito Voice Dialer
Pocket TV
Resco File Explorer
Resco Stickies
Resco Photo Viewer
Spb Finance
Spb GPRS Monitor
Age Of Empires
Spb Arkball
Adobe Reader 2.0
Co Pilot Live
I am also using Optus and get the problem with the phone, SMS and GPRS. After calling Optus for assistance the answer has been a regular soft reset.
I am hoping there is a fix out there.
Cheers,
AP.
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Pocket Plus seems to be the most common program involved. Now, if bonzothegreat would give us his list we could narrow it down!!

lol... well i've just uninstalled pocket plus.. and installed some other ones.. i now have
voice command
beta player
resco explorer
pie plus
vb runtimes
lexisgoo dictionary
pocketbreeze
batterywatch
tweaks2k2

SPB Software on Windows Mobile 6 (Crossbow)

After updating to Windows Mobile 6 I have noticed that some SPB software, which I use daily, has made my system run rather unstable. After playing around for a few days I found that after installing the latest version of SPB Pocket Plus my phone would freeze randomly every few minutes and I would have to softreset. I tried an older version and it also froze, but not as often.
The other SPB software acts funny from time to time, different from WM5.
Around the from I see many people have said that SPB software runs fine on their WM6 device. What has been your experience with WM6 and SPB?
dial
My device details are:
Latest SPB Dairy and SPB Time (Only minor strange at the moment)
Windows Mobile 6 LVSW 26-03-07 edition
Hermes200 (Softbank X01HT Pre-Dec version)
Boot loader (SPL 1.35)
Latest Radio (around 1.38?)
No SPB Pocket Plus - Extremely unstable, even when device first boots. Had to uninstall in safe mode.

SPB Pocket Plus and Mobile Shell
I have run WMXL v.1, v.2 & v.3 with SPB Pocket Plus and Mobile Shell with no problems. I am currently running the latest LVSW Edition again with SPB Pocket Plus and Mobile Shell and no problems.
Tim

SPB diary made my phone crash on wm6 black edition 1.2... had to go back to wm5...

SPB Shell or DIARY with LVSW....mk my phone always freeze ..... when miss call it freeze...when capture movie clip..it freeze....RANDOMLY

Same here
experiencing the same symptoms ...
random crashes/hangs ...
worst problem is not waking up ... don't know if this is related to the SPB software or not but that's all I have installed ... Pocket Plus and Diary ...

Hi.
I've tested SPB with LVSW (all of them) and Black 1.1 and 1.2.
Used last version SPB Pocket Plus without any problems, works well.
Used last version SPB Backup without any problem, doing completes backup and partials backup.
Used last version SPB GPRS monitor and again works well, no problems at all.

Same here..

SPB software on BLACK 2.0 works 100%
stay tuned

amazoncd said:
After updating to Windows Mobile 6 I have noticed that some SPB software, which I use daily, has made my system run rather unstable. After playing around for a few days I found that after installing the latest version of SPB Pocket Plus my phone would freeze randomly every few minutes and I would have to softreset. I tried an older version and it also froze, but not as often.
The other SPB software acts funny from time to time, different from WM5.
Around the from I see many people have said that SPB software runs fine on their WM6 device. What has been your experience with WM6 and SPB?
dial
My device details are:
Latest SPB Dairy and SPB Time (Only minor strange at the moment)
Windows Mobile 6 LVSW 26-03-07 edition
Hermes200 (Softbank X01HT Pre-Dec version)
Boot loader (SPL 1.35)
Latest Radio (around 1.38?)
No SPB Pocket Plus - Extremely unstable, even when device first boots. Had to uninstall in safe mode.
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i am using SPB wather, Mobile Shell and Ppcket Plus and all fine..

spb weather caused issues for me on Black1.2. Big issues.
Older version was an improvement but not perfect.

No problems
Have been running SPB Mobile Shell, SPB Diary and SPB GPRS Monitor successfully on WXL 0.21 (XDA Live) and LVSW 26-03-2007 (currently),.

Everyone sets up their WM6 device differently so it's hard to pin point the bugs and issues. I feel lost without SPB pocket plus and the others. I hope SPB will update their software to fully support WM6 soon. On another note, Japanese support was just recently announced for SPB products which is good news.
After looking over the SPB forums I can't find anything that mentions WM6 issues. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
In the mean time if people could post their setup and works for them and what conflicts they have maybe we can see which software, and possibly what options in the settings, are actually upsetting WM6 and causing these freezes and 'un-wake-able' phones.
Good luck to all of you,
dial

I did have similar issues (freezing, not waking up) with XDA-Live v0.20, after I uninstalled spb diary they seemed to stop.
I changed to LVSW 26-03-2007 and so far no problems with spb diary.

Take the spb diary off! I too had problems until I did a hard reset after removing spb diary from it. BTW, I am currently using LVSW 20070325 and have had NO lock up, freezing,or instability of any kind.
Hope this helps......Later
amazoncd said:
After updating to Windows Mobile 6 I have noticed that some SPB software, which I use daily, has made my system run rather unstable. After playing around for a few days I found that after installing the latest version of SPB Pocket Plus my phone would freeze randomly every few minutes and I would have to softreset. I tried an older version and it also froze, but not as often.
The other SPB software acts funny from time to time, different from WM5.
Around the from I see many people have said that SPB software runs fine on their WM6 device. What has been your experience with WM6 and SPB?
dial
My device details are:
Latest SPB Dairy and SPB Time (Only minor strange at the moment)
Windows Mobile 6 LVSW 26-03-07 edition
Hermes200 (Softbank X01HT Pre-Dec version)
Boot loader (SPL 1.35)
Latest Radio (around 1.38?)
No SPB Pocket Plus - Extremely unstable, even when device first boots. Had to uninstall in safe mode.
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Same here!
timsfbaylink said:
I have run WMXL v.1, v.2 & v.3 with SPB Pocket Plus and Mobile Shell with no problems. I am currently running the latest LVSW Edition again with SPB Pocket Plus and Mobile Shell and no problems.
Tim
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I am running SPB Weather and SPB Back-up on vanilla WM6 - no problem.

SPB Backup Scheduled backups not running
Anyone see this issue on Black 2.0?
Backup runs fine if i start it, both fulland partial. But scheduled backups doent run..the notification comes up, it looks liek soemthign is getting ready to happen...and then nothing. Its like backup can't terminate apps to start itself.

I found pocket plus worked ok on xda 2.0 but tended to slow down Black 2.0
Just removed Pocket Plus and put Ilauncher on and it seems a lot better!

"Fix" for scheduled backups...
Darkeyce said:
Anyone see this issue on Black 2.0?
Backup runs fine if i start it, both fulland partial. But scheduled backups doent run..the notification comes up, it looks liek soemthign is getting ready to happen...and then nothing. Its like backup can't terminate apps to start itself.
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I had this issue with LVSW-20070326 as well. Opened a trouble ticket with Spb Software and got a response back that since WM6 was not officially released, they do not support it. When I responded back that I did not understand that comment, since new phones were coming out from ODMs and carriers with WM6 on it and therefore had to be officially released (note I did not say that it was still in "beta"), I got another reply apologizing and for me to ignore the first message!
They suggested that I go into the Advanced Options for Spb Backup and uncheck the option "Stop processes before backup". This seems to fix the issue and still appears to do a full backup.
John

I am running SPB Pocket Plus and SPB Diary. I found a long time ago, that if I kept the Storage card icon on the today page that I had problems. So I have always removed the storage card icon and the switch today screen icons.
I have no problems with Pocket plus or diary, use both all day long. I have used them on all current WM6 versions (XDA Live .10, .20, .30, LVSW all versions and Black 2.0) I only had problems on Black 1.2, so I reverted to another Rom until Black 2.0.
i currently am running Black 2.0, absolutely no issues with SPB or Black Rom.

Phone Suite vs Phone alarm

It would seem lots of us like these type programs. Neither one seems to be working great with WM 6.0.
Here's my issues using latest beta of Phonealarm: loosing graphics on reset, sometimes the today plug in doesn't appear. Alarms seem to work and profiles seem to switch correctly.
Also just feels unstable.
Trying PhoneSuite from SBP. Starts fine and runs well. Like the photo dialer. Major issue: only one time based profile; can't see the current profile icon or change it if I click on the space where it is (though dropdown list appears); Caller ID doesnt work with incoming calls, but offers to send SMS to missed calls.
Anybody else having these type issues?

I have been messing with profile switchers and whatnot for sometime now. Typically haven't had too much trouble with Phonealarm...however I know what you mean when you say...just feels a bit unstable. Probably comes from using it long enough to have had some bad betas...so it just gives you that feeling...
I am trying the new Phone Suite from SPB...not bad, but it seems a bit limited as you have mentioned with the profiles. Plus, I am using Mobile Shell right now and you get messages, missed calls etc on the today "Now" screen, the only drawback with Mobile Shell or their new Phone Suite for that matter is they don't show you number of Voicemails, Phone alarm is the only one I have seen that does this. I do like Phone Suite's photo contacts integration...that is pretty cool...so I am still messing with it a bit. For a profile switcher...I am currently using PocketZenPhone v6.103 (doesn't have the missed call, SMS etc but that is what the Shell Now screen offers). This appears to be really nice so far. Lots of custimization, profiles switch quickly and you don't have to have a today plugin..you can have it just as in icon in the bottom toolbar.
Hey on another note. How is Black 2.5 running on your device? I have 2.0 on mine and love it, just recently lost my camera function for some reason and was thinking about flashing my device to 2.5 and hope it comes back.
Cheers,
-------
Cingular 8525
Black 2.0

oosing graphics on reset, sometimes the today plug in doesn't appear.
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It's a stupid bug in lots of WM phones, this happens occasionally on Black 2.0 and used to happen when i had a Prophet.
but there's a little workaround.. when the phone booted up and started to load the today screen, just quickly press the Windows hard key twice !

Im running phonealarm 1.6 beta 13 (build 134) and have experienced no instability or today screen troubles?!
I have had no problems with PA ever!? The latest beta (14 build 138) however is very unstable...but its a beta so doesnt reflect the final product!

did some more checking. they are up to 140 but its got issues too. 139 was reported to be more stable.
they are aware of the wm6 issues too. maybe 141 will fix it.

Black 2.5 with buzzing add on is running fine. I went up from vanilla (custel's) Black 2.0 and did not have any problems aside from PhoneAlarm.

i just use o2plus 2.3
profiles are there, meters, launcher with tabs, can customize profiles/wifi/bt at certain times etc.....
only 300kb footprint.

This one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281237

on my spv m3100 with lvsw 0423 wm6 and spb phone suite i don't get displayed the phone numbers of incoming callers i think its a bug with phone suite unfortunately

O2Plus won't load without O2 connect, is there a work around.

Only downside to O2plus vs Phone alarm for my purposes, is I like to be able to assign different or no sounds to emails/text alerts depending on the active profile. If I set the ringer to nil, (ie a silent profile) will that kill the email notification too? (I will check later but am going to be tied up for a while now
PS - Scrog, search for the 'amended' version i n fact, I seem to remember JJ posting it somewhere in the last week or two?

crazyC said:
Only downside to O2plus vs Phone alarm for my purposes, is I like to be able to assign different or no sounds to emails/text alerts depending on the active profile. If I set the ringer to nil, (ie a silent profile) will that kill the email notification too? (I will check later but am going to be tied up for a while now
PS - Scrog, search for the 'amended' version i n fact, I seem to remember JJ posting it somewhere in the last week or two?
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Try Pocket Zen Pro. I had issues getting this to work on my Softbank X01HT when it was Japanese WM5, but seems to work great on Black 2.0 / 2.5.
The today screen is pretty much only profiles + some time / operator information, but it is just as customizable as Phonealarm with regards to setting different sounds for different profiles, etc.
The "Today" element is very minimalistic which I actually like after I got used to it.
Actually, you can configure the "Today" element to be just a single line on your screen; i assigned a hardware button to change profiles and it is much easier to use than phonealarm in that respect.
http://www.pocketzenphone.net/PZPForum/index.php

what about Photo Contacts Pro 5?
did you try it?
it has some features PA dont have...
what say you?

Phone profiles pro
Had never heard of it.
Have currently dropped back to O2plus. Am going to try out Pocket Zen Phone, and then maybe PP Pro. Have you used it on WM6 (Black 2.5 in particular)

I like PhoneAlarm and never had problems with it except for some skins that allows direct WIFI on/off and are not compatible with the new connection manager (the Trinity one). Have tried the SPB app but it is useless for me cause it has only one time based profile and I use at least 3 time based profiles. PA has more options and is much more useful...comparing to SPB it use 2mb of storage PA use only 900kb of storage!
Regards,
Primoz

crazyC said:
Had never heard of it.
Have currently dropped back to O2plus. Am going to try out Pocket Zen Phone, and then maybe PP Pro. Have you used it on WM6 (Black 2.5 in particular)
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Yep, currently using it with Black 2.5 however, this is version 5, and not 5.02, which should be a little better (Photo Contacts Pro).
features wise, it has things that i prefer than the others.
I will give PA another chance although it doesn't deal "right" with "Reject calls and send SMS" or with the Profile based on User or Category.

PZP
Guys,
PZP does it for me.. VERY lightweight and all the different notifications per profile. See the website - zendrui dot free dot fr
- Arnie
(on WM5 and Black 2.0)

Scrog said:
O2Plus won't load without O2 connect, is there a work around.
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O2 plus worked fine for me without o2 connect installed. Previous versions wouldn't work but 2.3 doesn't seem to be dependent on o2 connect being installed anymore.

at10ti0n said:
on my spv m3100 with lvsw 0423 wm6 and spb phone suite i don't get displayed the phone numbers of incoming callers i think its a bug with phone suite unfortunately
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Spb Phone Suite v1.0 working perfect ;-)
Displayed the phone numbers, no problem

mateuszrac said:
Spb Phone Suite v1.0 working perfect ;-)
Displayed the phone numbers, no problem
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What device/os ROM are you using?

why it took me so much time to open bluetooth setting

Dear all,
I have a question about my BA (XDA III from O2). I found that it took me more than a minute to open bluetooth setting or bluetooth manager. I don't feel it is normal, because I only need few seconds to open other programs, for example WMP.
Due to this problem, it took me a couple of minute to open Tomtom, which is annoying. I tried to upgrade my bluetooth driver from 1.0.0 3500 to 1.0.0 3900 (from broadcom) but it didn't help. Should I upgrade my Radio version, or there are some virus in my system or system doesn't have enough memory (I still have ca. 40M data memory and ca. 50M program memory)
?
my system is WM 2003, rom version 1.31.01 Ger, Radio version: 1.10.00, ExRom version: 1.31.137 Ger.
Thanks for helping.

I don't think the problem is caused by a virus(there are two or three in the world). Probably the WM has messed up his files(this is the reason I chose WM6 by Helmi_c instead of 2003SE). Tip: Try to do Hard Reset.

i have wm6 on mine, but aftr a month, i also am having the same problems. sometimes its the conn manager taking too long to open, sometimes messaging, settings, actually, aftr a while of using the BA, it sort of lags. but i always check running apps in settings menu but there are no running apps. i dont know how i got this problem.

You got this problem because of ****ty design of WM2003. All you can do it to treat it a bit like Windows 95/98: Hard Reset, reinstall all needed software and then do not install and test any apps.