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Boot problem when using today plugins like SPB Pocket Plus

Whe I use any of the today plugins like SPB pocket Plus most of the times after a soft reset the PPC freezes... It may needs 10 soft resets to work again!!!
Any help with this would be really appreciated...
Qtek 9090
Rom:
1.22.00 WWE
Ext ROM:
1.22.167 WWE
I know people with I-mate roms with no problem!! Should I put I-mate's rom??

I have the same issues..
I just stopped using those programs for that reason.
MS VOICE COMMAND 1.0 was bad for that too.

So I am not the only one!! :? :? :?
That's damn bad!!!
I've read this on the SPB site.. That the HTCs have this problem!! :x :x
The only solution is before a soft reset to remove the programm from the "today"... :twisted:

Are you using battery pack as well?
I had the same problem on my qtek9090.
I have done a hard reset and have installed all my programs one by one, but first SBP.
Than i have testes to istall Battery pack later on as last one and .....
no problems anymore. But why use Battery pack if you use SBP? So i de installed Battery pach.
Everything is working fine now for the last months.
Andre le Fevre

I tried them one at a time of course..
With SPB now you don't have a problem? It was the first programm you installed? What do you have it to show on the today screen? Apart from the program shortcuts?
ROM version?

I have had no such problems with my Qtek 9090, from the first ROM that it came with to the one I'm using now. I use PocketPlus 2.2 and T-Agenda, and it works perfectly.

i am using Tweak 2.41, Pocket Plus 2.2 and Pocket Hack Master 3.05. The results are that, although they are enhancement tools, but will slower my XDA IIs sometimes.... Therefore, they are not as stable as I expected. As a result, I removed them... Now, my machine work great and response fast (but two of ten times are slow especially I turn it on after few hours).

I think this is a rom dependent problem.

HELP! cant make phone calls ... (problem with SIM?)

OK, I love my IIs, i've had no problems, bar this one... and it's quite a big problem.
I dont know whats causing it, but every now and then, after the IIs has been running (ie, i haven't given a soft-reset), i cannot call anyone, and no one can call me (or send smses, receive smses).
Its annoying because I dont know when its happen until i try and send an sms.
All I know is that when i try and call someone i just hear 'beep beep beep' and when someone calls me it gets diverted to my voicemail.
A soft reset always fixes it right up - anyone else had this problem??

Here is the reason:
O2 Xda IIs (Optus - Australia)
R 1.02.00
G 1337.32
D 1.12.62 WWE
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You should update to:
R 1.06.02
G 1337.32
D 1.31.00 WWE

thankyou!! how exactly do i do that?

Is that the solution? I right now have:
Rom version: 1.22.00 WWE
Rom Date: 10/22/04
Radio version: 1.06.02
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExtRom version: 1.22.169 WWE
Where do I find the other Rom update???
With Rom above I have the same problem as stated before!

Hi
had the same problem, i was useing a task manager "magicbutton" and it was killing the phone app.....
hope it helps

copex said:
Hi
had the same problem, i was useing a task manager "magicbutton" and it was killing the phone app.....
hope it helps
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Damn I use Pocketnav, which also says it does!! Would that be the problem? But it also happens when I don't close programs for a long time, so even the phone app!!

Thank you thank you thank you!
I was running magic button, and was finding that the phone app was working, and I could connect, but there'd be no audio.
Magicbutton would try to kill the phone app, but would fail. I'm guessing that it left the phone app in a confused state!
Stopping running magicbutton appears to have solved the problem - but I now have the problem that lots of apps are hanging around in memory.
Anyone found a "magicbutton" like solution that coexists with Phone?
Ta,
Nick.

try "my tools" by micro cheng. it's a nice freeware and has been runnimg smoothly on my device for one week now.

Or use SPB Pocket Plus, it has a task closer build in! It is not freeware, but is very great value!

yeah i use that I'm currently just testing it about twice a day.. i expect (unless there's a fault with the ROM) that its some random software i'm running...

benzothegreat said:
yeah i use that I'm currently just testing it about twice a day.. i expect (unless there's a fault with the ROM) that its some random software i'm running...
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Benzo, if it makes you feel any better, I have exactly the same set-up as you. Even the same telco.
What's your list of installed software?
Here's mine:
Avantgo Client
Macromedia Flash Player ActiveX
Spb Pocket Plus 2.2
Cirond pocketWinc
Wei's Soft SoftReset
Mamaich Phone Extension
O2 Service
Birdsoft All-In Hold'Em
SBSH.net PocketWeather
Redshift Legacy
O2 O2 Service
MpegTV PocketTV
MohairSofa Calendar+ Today Plug-In
O2 Connect
Hope we can track it down!

Could it be task manager of SPB Pocket Plus causing problems too??

i dont *think* its pocket plus, the phone has been running for about 2 days now without a reset and no problems.. i have a weird feeling that it *possibly* is when i activesync via bluetooth? anyone else think that could be a possibility? guess i could trial it tonight after work

benzothegreat said:
i dont *think* its pocket plus, the phone has been running for about 2 days now without a reset and no problems.. i have a weird feeling that it *possibly* is when i activesync via bluetooth? anyone else think that could be a possibility? guess i could trial it tonight after work
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I haven't done a AS via bluetooth for weeks. My problems are random, every few days.
I'm going to start removing programs, one by one, and track this gremlin down!

damn! was hoping that might be the problem.. Kevin, what version ROM have you got? I got my iis second week of Jan, and i haven't upgraded the ROMs yet.. I'm thinking maybe this could fix the problem?

benzothegreat said:
damn! was hoping that might be the problem.. Kevin, what version ROM have you got? I got my iis second week of Jan, and i haven't upgraded the ROMs yet.. I'm thinking maybe this could fix the problem?
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Mine is EXACTLY the same as yours .... that's why I wanted to know what software you have installed!
I didn't know there WAS a ROM upgrade available?

yeah - check out the second post in this thread.. you can up the radio rom and the regular rom.. apparently it doesn't make a difference to this problem tho... but hey, i haven't had a soft reset in a couple of days and everything is going great!
of course i have no idea how to upgrade my rom... i've searched through the forums but there's no step-by-step guide.. and plus, i dont want to have to re-install everything onto my pda if the rom isn't the problem!

I also have the same problem.
Apps include:
Avantgo Client
Spb Pocket Plus 2.2
O2 Connect (stopped from the start menu, ie. requires manual connect)
Pocket Informant
Vito Voice Dialer
Pocket TV
Resco File Explorer
Resco Stickies
Resco Photo Viewer
Spb Finance
Spb GPRS Monitor
Age Of Empires
Spb Arkball
Adobe Reader 2.0
Co Pilot Live
I am also using Optus and get the problem with the phone, SMS and GPRS. After calling Optus for assistance the answer has been a regular soft reset.
I am hoping there is a fix out there.
Cheers,
AP.

acp said:
I also have the same problem.
Apps include:
Avantgo Client
Spb Pocket Plus 2.2
O2 Connect (stopped from the start menu, ie. requires manual connect)
Pocket Informant
Vito Voice Dialer
Pocket TV
Resco File Explorer
Resco Stickies
Resco Photo Viewer
Spb Finance
Spb GPRS Monitor
Age Of Empires
Spb Arkball
Adobe Reader 2.0
Co Pilot Live
I am also using Optus and get the problem with the phone, SMS and GPRS. After calling Optus for assistance the answer has been a regular soft reset.
I am hoping there is a fix out there.
Cheers,
AP.
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Pocket Plus seems to be the most common program involved. Now, if bonzothegreat would give us his list we could narrow it down!!

lol... well i've just uninstalled pocket plus.. and installed some other ones.. i now have
voice command
beta player
resco explorer
pie plus
vb runtimes
lexisgoo dictionary
pocketbreeze
batterywatch
tweaks2k2

Some thoughts of the Official O2 WM6 ROM

Although the User Interface is not as good as B&B, But I like to keep it simple.
After hard reset:
Storage Total: 54.09 MB, In use: 6.33MB, Free: 47.76 MB
Program Total: 47.90MB, In use: 23.18 MB, Free: 24.72 MB
Pro:
Faster than WM5, programme switch speed, opening Windows folder is much more quicker than WM5. Battery looks last longer than WM5 (or might have a problem with the battery indication software, consumed 6% on standby over 7 hours.)
Con:
1, still has the Wireless connection problem that will not be able to disconnect WIFI throught Today's screen.
2, very irritating that MSN messenger has to download my MSN email contacts to the phone's contacts.
3, X-Button not available, the HTC X-Button 1.5 not working properly with this ROM, causing system crash.
4, First charge stucked at 88% and orange light, soft reset, back to 100% and green light.
Still testing.......
Edit: Pro: I like the new phone "contact" system. a new number can be added to my existing contact more easily. Also, the contact's total call time and number of calls is very impressive!
Edit: Neutral: MSN issue, updated on page 4.
Edit: Pro: you can add an unknow missed number to your existing contact.

Hmm - my experience on installing the new O2 UK WM6 ROM:
Con:
1) Noticeably slower than WM5 to do almost anything
2) Wasted a whole evening reinstalling and reconfiguring all my applications
3) No useful new functionality
Pro:
Nothing yet.

I installed it yesterday evening, after installing it, it seemed a bit slow. Now i got it all set up it is pretty fast and works allright. Only software I installed extra was spb diary.
Only thing i find annoying is that you can't disable wifi from the icon on the today screen. But there is a shortcut to the com manager on the o2 plug in so it makes up for it.
o2 rom has got some nice tools on the today screen like the profiles, meters, you can see the last call on the today screen also there is a today plug-in that shows the applications that are running, you can also end them from there. So its same as x-button. You can find it under the custom 02 today plug-in setting.
But still waiting to try out B&B4.0 with the touch flow.
Greetz,
Dushman.

betaexpert said:
2, very irritating that MSN messenger has to download my MSN email contacts to the phone's contacts.
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any workaround for this ?

Can you tell me does your smart dialling work ? i ask because i have flashed this rom twice now and when i get the dialpad up there are no contacts in the top half, so i can't scroll through my contacts ! And all the smart dialling options are enabled by default.
Thanks....

anothe rthought of O2 WM6
Well, I before I went to bed aroudn midnight (UK time) I thought I check the O2 site and bingo the link is back there. 5 minutes download and 10 minutes later WM6 running on my XDA ORbit.
1- much much snappier. Opening folder, program, setting, contact, emails, explorer etc... has a whole lot new feel to it.
2- GPS works faultless with tomtom.
3- got rid of O2 phone skin and restored the OEM phone skin. Prettier and snappier.
4- I dont want the the x button to close application. I do keep few running such as email, explorer, contacts, and calendar. O2 provides a simple application to view/close running applications. I also, use Explorer 2007 which has the same functionality.
5- cannot close wifi from today screen. Minor inconvenience.
6- Office applications updated.
7- Explorer still works (LOL) and believe I tried Opera and other and I always go back to Explorer. It renders the screen better. Sure no tabs but I dont use them on my mobile, on my desktop yes.
8- Emailer you can now see html - a great boost for me as I need it (you can still block images if you wish) and very useful. Previosuly I use Qmail which I think is the best but lets give the emailer a chance.
9- I heavily use msn and voip and they work faultless (even when conncted to Activesync) I can still sue my wifi for voip.
10- battery comsumption seems to be the same. Battery Was 95% when went to bed (tested email,explorer, windows live etc...), 9:30 am it is still 88%.
11- I like the encryption facilities and finally I can encrypt my files on the storage card natively. Previously I used Cryptainer LE (free).
12- Internet sharing works (just make sure your connection is secure).
13- wireless security are all there as before (wpa-wpa2-wpa2-psk etc..).
thats it really. No major new things, just improvements and the OS definitely faster and less memory hungry.
Still testing it of course ...

Where's the terminal services client? Have they removed it? I've seen a seperate install for it somewehere.
Also, I assume I don't need the storage card fix from HTC for this?

Don't have anything new to add that hasn't been said already.........except that i don't like it. Been using B&B3.7 until last night. O2 WM6 seems like a step backwards from this ROM, not sure why.

terminal services
Terminal services gone and rightly so. What is the use of it on a phone without a keyboard and 320x240 screen (YMMV) ? Now, if I am using the king of phones (XDA Exec )with the best keyboard then I will miss it.
Well I have 2 GB sotrage and I am keeping an eye on it. Lets hope we dont need the fix ;-) (Of course I have backed up everyhting three times just in case.
magnumforce2000 said:
Where's the terminal services client? Have they removed it? I've seen a seperate install for it somewehere.
Also, I assume I don't need the storage card fix from HTC for this?
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The WM6 build from O2 contains the Sd card fix so no need to add this to the build. The issue with not being able to turn wifi off from today screen is in all WM6 builds not just Orbit.
Cheers
LB

oops silly me, forget my smart dialling problem, there is'nt one, just me being dumb. http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon11.gif
Red face
Ok im pleased with this new 02 rom now, but i will have to try the new B&B 4.0 when i comes out. can't wait for that.
I have noticed one very small odd thing though, when you go to select a new text message alert, there are 2 x dogbark, 2 x ding and 2 x alouette ?
otherwise fine....

Updated no problem, got the wifi problem from the today screen, also my bluetooth isnt working, anyone else got this problem?

Lazarou said:
Updated no problem, got the wifi problem from the today screen, also my bluetooth isnt working, anyone else got this problem?
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Yes I am afraid it is not possible to disablethe wifi from the today screen, you will have to use the comm manager.
What problems u have with bluetooth?
I have beentesting it, like sending files, images, headsets and no rpoblems at all.

redjupiter said:
Yes I am afraid it is not possible to disablethe wifi from the today screen, you will have to use the comm manager.
What problems u have with bluetooth?
I have beentesting it, like sending files, images, headsets and no rpoblems at all.
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thanks for replying but it seems to be fine now after a soft reset

Lazarou said:
thanks for replying but it seems to be fine now after a soft reset
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Just one thing, you probably know that, receiving files via bluetooth is disabled by default. You will have to enable it via the registry.
cheers

does anyone know how to turn off gprs

fei said:
does anyone know how to turn off gprs
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http://www.modaco.com/FREE-Utility-t246171.html

fei said:
does anyone know how to turn off gprs
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I never setup the GPRS, when it asks on first hardset screen, I always unticked the option. Though, I think you can turn it off by:
O2 Operator Settings--> tick the "i want to do auto configuration now", and scroll the underneath menu down, choose "remove all settings".--> click the top right "OK", done.

and to think that no one has mentioned abotu the new looking solitaire? are your priorities not right??? (just kidding )
Phone working great on WM6 for me - some real response improvments in places. TomTom working good from SD card too - new reinstall required there. Hell - I even like the 02 additional software for a change (like I did with WM5 on the orbit - unlike their today screen stuff on XDA2i....)
So that's at least 1 happy customer...
(and in fairness - their billing dept has been very helpful to me since a billing error - I really can't fault them there)

fei said:
does anyone know how to turn off gprs
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Press the Call 'End' (Red Color) for 3-5 Seconds and it Disconnects GPRS.

why it took me so much time to open bluetooth setting

Dear all,
I have a question about my BA (XDA III from O2). I found that it took me more than a minute to open bluetooth setting or bluetooth manager. I don't feel it is normal, because I only need few seconds to open other programs, for example WMP.
Due to this problem, it took me a couple of minute to open Tomtom, which is annoying. I tried to upgrade my bluetooth driver from 1.0.0 3500 to 1.0.0 3900 (from broadcom) but it didn't help. Should I upgrade my Radio version, or there are some virus in my system or system doesn't have enough memory (I still have ca. 40M data memory and ca. 50M program memory)
?
my system is WM 2003, rom version 1.31.01 Ger, Radio version: 1.10.00, ExRom version: 1.31.137 Ger.
Thanks for helping.

I don't think the problem is caused by a virus(there are two or three in the world). Probably the WM has messed up his files(this is the reason I chose WM6 by Helmi_c instead of 2003SE). Tip: Try to do Hard Reset.

i have wm6 on mine, but aftr a month, i also am having the same problems. sometimes its the conn manager taking too long to open, sometimes messaging, settings, actually, aftr a while of using the BA, it sort of lags. but i always check running apps in settings menu but there are no running apps. i dont know how i got this problem.

You got this problem because of ****ty design of WM2003. All you can do it to treat it a bit like Windows 95/98: Hard Reset, reinstall all needed software and then do not install and test any apps.

Tomtom Navigator 6 freezes

Hi!
In my Artemis is annoying problem. Navigator 6.03 stops opening, when "the hands" are on the display. This happens about three to four times a week.
I have to make a soft reset after that. (I use TomTom daily.)
The second symptom, which probably comes from above, is that I can not make a phone call. All things seem to be OK, but I can not receive or make a phone call. (I give pin -code and the phone shows good fieldstrength.)
I have Vanilla 1.0 in my phone.
Please, help me. This is the only problem, what I have with Vanilla 1.0
"PS. I think I found the reason. See below!"

I had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago (I'm using vanilla 2.01), but it was not once a day, but everytime I tried to use it.
I solved it taking the TomTom files from a backup that I had from my microSD, and overwriting the ones that I had at that moment.
Since then no problems whatsoever.
Hope it helps.

Motero73 said:
I had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago (I'm using vanilla 2.01), but it was not once a day, but everytime I tried to use it.
I solved it taking the TomTom files from a backup that I had from my microSD, and overwriting the ones that I had at that moment.
Since then no problems whatsoever.
Hope it helps.
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Did you make a backup copy of all in microSD, formatted the microSD and put all back?

I just copied the files from the microSD backup that had to do with TomTom (f.e. Program Files/Navigator), and put them into my microSD overwriting the ones that I had at that moment.
It seems that some file was corrupted, and making this solved the problem.

Get update from myTomTom
Hi,
there is an official update specifically for the Artemis / P3300. If I'm right it is version 6.2. The freeze of earlier versions is a known issue. Get yourself an account on mytomtom.com and look for updates. You will find version 6.2 there.

chribo28 said:
Hi,
there is an official update specifically for the Artemis / P3300. If I'm right it is version 6.2. The freeze of earlier versions is a known issue. Get yourself an account on mytomtom.com and look for updates. You will find version 6.2 there.
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Hi!
I cannot find any other than 6.03 -version. Could you send me Internet site address.

Hi
I am using B&B 4.3 and Tomtom 6.030 bulid 8230 without any problem.
Try disabling POIs from Tomtom and observe if it still crashes. If it crashes or not, you need to update to 6.030. You can download it from tomtom website.

nm8 said:
Hi
I am using B&B 4.3 and Tomtom 6.030 bulid 8230 without any problem.
Try disabling POIs from Tomtom and observe if it still crashes. If it crashes or not, you need to update to 6.030. You can download it from tomtom website.
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Thank you, that will be the cause. I removed TomTom and loaded it again. Let´s see, if it freezes again. It has not done it in three days.

Matti23 said:
Thank you, that will be the cause. I removed TomTom and loaded it again. Let´s see, if it freezes again. It has not done it in three days.
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The phone was shut down during the night. I opened it and started TomTom. All went OK. I shut TomTom and wrote sms -message. The writing was quite sticky. Artemis did not send the message, because it was jammed.
I took away all POIs and loaded the map again.
I hope this solved the problem.

Matti23 said:
I took away all POIs and loaded the map again.
I hope this solved the problem.
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You dont need to delete POIs. Just disable them from displaying when youre running Tomtom.
Change Preferernces > Enable/Disable POIs
then untick everything.

TomTom used to crash on a regular basis on my Artemis because I had it overclocked to 286MHz and when it was plugged in to the car charger the battery was getting very hot so it would freeze then reset after 5 minutes or so. Very annoying but I now have to restore the original clock speed each time I use TomTom, this may well be the issue you're having?

Change your SD... I had freezing problem with SD and microSD on both 9100 and P3300. After using new hight quality cards, no more problem.

Probly I found the reason
I think I found the reason for my problem, when TomTom freezed, when loading it.
I had enAlarmPPC v.3.3.1 -program, which caused that. I removed the program, and I have had that problem any more.
Now every time, when I change the time, I got an error message: "Cannot execute\Storage card\Program files\enAlarmPPC3.3.1\enAlarmPPC.exe"
I can not get rid of that message. I have souhgt it in the registry, but there are no mention of that.
Does anybody know this problem?
PS. I got a little program, which took away that error message. I could find it here: http://www.maik-wiege.de/en/FAQ/enalarmppc/uninstall.html

I've had just the same problem with Tomtom and had to keep restarting my PDA to get Tomtom working again.
Then I realised that whenever it ist stuck with the "hands" in the bottom corner but won't display tomtom screen, there is a "notification" waiting to be displayed.
Once you've tapped on the "Notification" text at the bottom left of the screen to clear all the notifications, then Tomtom will display itself again - without rebooting the PDA....