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TomTom5

Chaps/Ladies (do we have any?!),
I've been using TT5 for a couple of weeks now, and have a strange problem! Every now and then, randomly, TT5 will just exit whilst navigating. I drove 170 miles yesterday and it closed itself four times, the phone was off on three of the four occasions, as was wifi and BT.
I've also had it freeze once or twice. The display just stops updating, though I can still tap the screen and exit cleanly. This used to happen more frequently with TT3.
I've only run TT5 on the new 1.40 ROM.
Anyone else suffering?
TIA
Dan

I have the same problem. Also running 1.40, tomtom sometimes just exists

d3vil said:
I have the same problem. Also running 1.40, tomtom sometimes just exists
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Argh! Another quirk. I think I'm gonna sell my XDA2s on Ebay, and buy a map, a diary, and a Nokia 1110. :lol:

I use TT5 daily & have never had a problem with it exiting. The display occasionally freezes, butI think I can put this down to when the traffic info is being updated because it only happens occasionally & it unfreezes after about 30 seconds or so

weasel said:
I use TT5 daily & have never had a problem with it exiting. The display occasionally freezes, butI think I can put this down to when the traffic info is being updated because it only happens occasionally & it unfreezes after about 30 seconds or so
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Are you on the same ROM as us, 1.40? I don't use TomTom Traffic, so that can't be related to my problem.
Thanks for replying
Dan

Off topic
I have a question and it's off topic (sorry guys) Can you use TomTom 5 for just driving directions? Do you need to have the GPS unit?

Are you on the same ROM as us, 1.40? I don't use TomTom Traffic, so that can't be related to my problem.
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I'm on a "standard" O2 UK ROM
ROM 1.31.00 WWE dated 13 December 2004
Radio 1.06
ExtROM 1.31.139 WWE

I have a question and it's off topic (sorry guys) Can you use TomTom 5 for just driving directions? Do you need to have the GPS unit?
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My experience is that TomTom 5 will not start calculating a route without a valid GPS device attached - I'm just going to verify that though

I have a question and it's off topic (sorry guys) Can you use TomTom 5 for just driving directions? Do you need to have the GPS unit?
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Well that shows how much I know about TomTom 5 . It is definitely possible to generate driving instructions without a GPS device attached 8) .
Go into the "Advanced Planning" option and simply pick your start and end points. You will then have a route that you can display as text, images etc, or even "demo" the route i.e. simulate it at speeds from 10% to 500% of "real time"

to: efcmandan
I had same problem. Try to switch off showing a POI. I switch it off and TT5 works fine.

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Panther16 said:
I had same problem. Try to switch off showing a POI. I switch it off and TT5 works fine.
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Ah right Which POI? Or just all POI's?
Thanks
Dan

I switch off all POI.

Thank you.
Thanks Weasel. I'll go ahead and load TomTom5 before my GPS arrives.

I have an XDA IIs with TT3, after i first installed it noticed it would crash randomly, which became really really annoying. After messing around with settings and 3rd-party software, i got nowhere. So I removed the **** O2 software that comes with the IIs, low and behold no more crashing.
Is this also the case for TT5, I would like to know before upgrading?
Don't really want to have to turn off the POI's to make it work.

This is all pretty interesting. I'm running a 1.40 O2 ROM and TomTom is not-as-stable-as-it-could-be. I'm going to do some more qualitative analysis to try and work out which of the crappy O2 software is the culprit - or if it's TomTom itself.
We've got quite a few XDAIIs here and both of the ones with TomTom are flakey. More details to follow...
[edit] Should have said - this is TomTom Navigator 5, with both bluetooth and wired GPS receivers.

AFAIK, the O2 Active software produces a memory leak. There are suggestions that TTN5 also produces a memory leak on 640x480 VGA devices. Perhaps the two are interacting? (Yes I know the XDA2s isn't VGA). Try monitoring available RAM while TTN5 is running. If it constantly reduces it will reach a point where the s/w crashes.

Where are we?
@ all:
Anyone know a solution to this problem? Apparently we need to use the POI.dat file from earlier installations, i.e. 4 or 3 and it will only crash 1% of the time. Until there is a patch for this we will have to settle for this solution it seems.
BTW, does anyone happen to have the POI.dat file for the Benelux map, version 3 or 4? I seem to have "misplaced" my cd with the map on it, anyone can help a brutha out? PM me?
Cheers in advance!

I've switched off POI ( that's NP for dutch users ) so it's stable now.
Any word on the arrival of a patch for this problem?

poi.dat
resolved poi.
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/TomTom5/poi.dat

FTP link does not work
Can you provide me with the above link that works please?

Duh! My Orbit ate my memory !!!

I noticed something peculiar today and wanted to know if anyone else faced it...Tried searching forum on this...but not seen..
I have an O2 Orbit with Bepe WM6 no fancy apps except Tomtom.
Today drove appx 40x2 miles return - the GPS worked fine, battery was great. But when I started off I remembered my Program memory was appx 24.8 free and a soft reset maybe a day before - by the time i returned home in evening - it went down to 13.2MB free - there were no programs running - i had closed tomtom and anything else that was running and still did not get my memory back.
I noticed the memory was low - coz once i returned home and switched off tomtom - i received a call and found the keypad very slow and barely unresponsive...so checked running programs and found calender running...shut that and still the mem was low...no impact !
then when i did a soft reset - voila! it was back ! the memory came back to 24.6 - so where did the memory go?
Is tomtom causing a leak???
is is windows itself?
any thoughts?

I am having a similar problem with both B&B Rom (v3) and the official HTC ROM.
After soft reset the phone has 24mb of program memory. I have the X button set to close apps on press of X so I know that programs are not left running.
After about 24-36 hours I have 2mb left. This is happening every soft reset.
I only have the following installed if it helps:-
WM6 HTC Rom
Phoneweaver (on today screen)
TodayAgenda (on today screen)
pTravelAlarm (on today screen)
TomTom 6 (installed but not used yet)
VJDevicelock
BatteryStatusExt 1.04
oxiosmemory
WindowsLive (on today screen) - ROM built in version set to sync with hotmail "as items arrive". I do not use Messenger
I hope that this can give some insight as I am getting fed up with having to soft reset every day or 2!

Pretty sure it's a windows fault. I also saw that using the first versions of WM6 we had, and it didn't tally with any application use.
I no longer see it using the same applications in a WM6 v3.7 environment, so my advice to you is upgrade that OS.

Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately I am using ROM version: 3.7.707.1 which is the official "HTC Asia" release, and the problem still exists.
Dae

daesimps said:
Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately I am using ROM version: 3.7.707.1 which is the official "HTC Asia" release, and the problem still exists.
Dae
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I am using the same version and I do not have any problems, no memory loss, nothing.

Are you using Tomtom/GPS also? Maybe it has something to do with the GPS?

devdarshan said:
Are you using Tomtom/GPS also? Maybe it has something to do with the GPS?
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I am using Tomtom 6, Pocket informant, Resco explorer, Resco Radio, Core Player, Resco Audio, Photo viewer, Style Tap, Spb Brain evolution, and Virtual pool mobile. All with no problems.

devdarshan said:
Are you using Tomtom/GPS also? Maybe it has something to do with the GPS?
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Please see me previous post "TomTom 6 (installed but not used yet)"

Maybe...
Hey.. maybe it works, kind of like the RAM in a computer. when you use your com. it also fills up your ram.
Maybe the phones just dont discard the temp info in the RAM as well as our computers??
...Just a thought

Orange touch HD + tomtom= no GPS device?

Hi,
I signed up a touch HD with orange UK yesterday. The first thing I did was to install TOMTOM on the machine. However, TOMTOM kept reporting no GPS device. If it finds the internal GPS receiver, then it is 20 minutes later. One thing I notice is that when TOMTOM is looking for the GPS receiver, there is something trying to connect to the internet.
I am sure I did everthing right as I was using this copy of tomtom on the touch diamond and it worked like a treat.
Did orange do anything to the GPS so people can only use their stupid orange map? If they did, is there any way that I can get the tomtom working?
Many thanks in advance.
Thank you for all your advice and the problem has been solved. Here are a few tips for people who have the same problem.
1. A-GPS can only make things worse, switch it off.
2. Update your quick-GPS data.
3. It seems that tomtom struggles to find GPS device on certain orange handset. If you are the unlucky one, try change your hand set with orange. If you don’t want to go through the trouble, open google map to locate satellite before open tomtom.
4. Debrand the handset.
5. Orange’s customer service is crap, stay away if you can

Have you tried updating QuickGPS in the programmes.
Also check A-GPS is disabled in windows settings.

mijyou said:
Have you tried updating QuickGPS in the programmes.
Also check A-GPS is disabled in windows settings.
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Thanks, I have updated the quickGPS the first thing. I have the a-gps enabled, though it could help to locate the satallite.

I think it is recomended to be disabled.
Perhaps try it if you have not.

GPS always worked fine for me with the stock Orange ROM, that was with 1.14 though, I think they come with 1.19 now, it also works fine with all of the cooked ROMs I've tested. Perhaps the version of TomTom you have isn't fully compatible with the HD (I did notice you said it worked on the Diamond, but perhaps there's a hardware/software difference on the HD which stops it working.

mijyou said:
Also check A-GPS is disabled in windows settings.
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that was the most important one
I am happily have 3 navigation programs on my HD, Tomtom, iGO, Navigon
but I always prefer iGO

Hi Guys, Thank you for your reply.
For you who is using tomtom, which version are you using? I am using 7.48

Thanks all for your help. Disable A-GPS seems hlep a lot. I will try again today.
By the way, UK orange's customer service is what I call crap. I called them about the GPS last night and a idiot tell me that as far as I can make phone calls, my phone is fine.

mmp7 said:
Thanks all for your help. Disable A-GPS seems hlep a lot. I will try again today.
By the way, UK orange's customer service is what I call crap. I called them about the GPS last night and a idiot tell me that as far as I can make phone calls, my phone is fine.
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Don’t blame them, that is way we are here.
My tomtom version is 7.915.9196, with latest UK and Ireland map v830.2307
but unfortunately it doesn’t support 7 point postcode system just accept 4 digit post code and in order to find the address you actually need to know name of the street as well. But I have iGO with 7PPC which it is fantastic.

MrKaon said:
Don’t blame them, that is way we are here.
My tomtom version is 7.915.9196, with latest UK and Ireland map v830.2307
but unfortunately it doesn’t support 7 point postcode system just accept 4 digit post code and in order to find the address you actually need to know name of the street as well. But I have iGO with 7PPC which it is fantastic.
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830.207 works just fine with 7 digit postcodes, as have all maps for the last couple of years.

spud_work said:
830.207 works just fine with 7 digit postcodes, as have all maps for the last couple of years.
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may I ask what version of tomtom are you using?

7.915.916
it is non-standard feature, but you just need an additioal 'zip' folder

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7.915.916
it is non-standard feature, but you just need an additioal 'zip' folder
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thanks for telling me.
ok now for everyone which already had tomtom without 7 digit postcode, do as I listed here:
01- Downloaded the file
www.tomtom.com/updates/great_britainpostal_all.zip
02- copy it into new folder (folder's name doesn't matter)
03- extract it.
04- click on setup.exe
05- choose "i agree" then click next.
06- choose Pocket PC (Windows CE)
07- choose install Tom Tom Great Britin Postcode then click next.
08- choose other location (Advanced)
09- choose Folder on the computer
10- select any folder you want
the software will generate a zip folder
after getting the zip folder move it to your SD card's Root
start TOM TOM you will be able to do a full 7 digit postcode search.

dead link
link not working for me?
can some one try it and report working or not
thanks

I often get the 'GPS device not found' error on my Orange HD also. A quick fix I've found is to run Google Maps first and lock onto a GPS signal in there, before opening TomTom. Seems to 'solve' the problem for now...

leggoman said:
link not working for me?
can some one try it and report working or not
thanks
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oops my mistake try it again should be work now
djmc321 said:
I often get the 'GPS device not found' error on my Orange HD also. A quick fix I've found is to run Google Maps first and lock onto a GPS signal in there, before opening TomTom. Seems to 'solve' the problem for now...
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it shouldn't be like that, when I had Stock ROM on my HD I used to had similar problem beside long waiting time before tomtom finds signal (about 15 ~ 20s) but after flashing HD with Custom ROM every problem is gone, now it finds signal in less than 5 second

I often get the 'GPS device not found' error on my Orange HD also. A quick fix I've found is to run Google Maps first and lock onto a GPS signal in there, before opening TomTom. Seems to 'solve' the problem for now...
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Exactly what I was going to say.. I had the same problem with mine running 7.9something. If you run google maps in the backgroungd it almost jump started the gps. I have also found that once you get a gps signal it seems to keep it easier..... dunno if thats just hopeful. Oh yes and I am on Orange too stock rom.

Problem with Bluetooth after installing tomtom7

Hello,
I just installed Tomtom7 on my pro2. but now the bluetooth stack is broken.
On other websites they say that tomtom replaces BtCoreIf.dll and BtSdkCE30.dll I already removed them and soft reset, but that doesn't work.
Can someone with a Pro2 upload those 2 files so that i can replace them on my phone? That will be the fastest solution i think... Thanks!

When this happened to me I had to hard reset, then re-install TomTom without the BT files. I'm still not entirely clear what the problem was, though, or how to correct it without hard resetting, but those files seemed to have corrupted something.

had The same problem had to hard reset. teach me to get a pirate version

I'm having the same issue. So removing the files from the cab fixes it?
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No problems on my site... Using tt7.915

Not sure if this would be the place to ask, but the search feature won't work properly for me atm ... so please give me a break if i missed the answer
Will Tomtom7 run with the internal gps in the TP2?
Thanks guys.

Corell said:
Not sure if this would be the place to ask, but the search feature won't work properly for me atm ... so please give me a break if i missed the answer
Will Tomtom7 run with the internal gps in the TP2?
Thanks guys.
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Runing gr8 with internal GPS

Roberto79 said:
Runing gr8 with internal GPS
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wonderful - thanks for the fast reply. until now i've had to use a bt gps reciever because my 1½yr old touch dual doesn't have a built-in gps and having only to use one device will be so much better and easier
- the version of tomtom7 that can be purchased on sd-card will work with pro2 considering the high resolution?
thanks again

Roberto79 said:
No problems on my site... Using tt7.915
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I'm using the same version...
i hard reset my phone already, but i want to install tomtom again, but i think i wait a while because i don't want to reset agian...
and i discoverd that after i installed tomtom, some of my text messages where not been send... (the phone randomly removes the + before the phonenumber) but sometimes it worked and sometimes not... very strange... so i hard reset and now everything works fine, but now i want tomtom to get working what to do?

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I'm using the same version...
i hard reset my phone already, but i want to install tomtom again, but i think i wait a while because i don't want to reset agian...
and i discoverd that after i installed tomtom, some of my text messages where not been send... (the phone randomly removes the + before the phonenumber) but sometimes it worked and sometimes not... very strange... so i hard reset and now everything works fine, but now i want tomtom to get working what to do?
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Hmm dont have any of posted problems looks like i was just lucky lol but maybe that somthing jumps up later when i'll "really need it"...
Corell said:
wonderful - thanks for the fast reply. until now i've had to use a bt gps reciever because my 1½yr old touch dual doesn't have a built-in gps and having only to use one device will be so much better and easier
- the version of tomtom7 that can be purchased on sd-card will work with pro2 considering the high resolution?
thanks again
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Its the latest release of tomtom7 so it has to work at least a bit older version works gr8 on my TP2, resolution is superb. I have tryed Amigo but it didnt work even with multi resolution .gro file

RMU said:
and i discoverd that after i installed tomtom, some of my text messages where not been send... (the phone randomly removes the + before the phonenumber) but sometimes it worked and sometimes not... very strange... so i hard reset and now everything works fine, but now i want tomtom to get working what to do?
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now i see that is not a tomtom problem, because i've hard reset my pro2 and not yet installed tomtom, so i've made another thread for this.
but the bluetooth problem is still there when i install tomtom

I'm seeing the same "BTTrayCE is not a valid application" error after installing TTN 7.450.
Does anybody know of a workaround that will enable both BlueTooth and TomTom to work?
Is a hard reset the only way to get BT working again? What about uninstalling TomTom?
R.

It seems to be. It corrupts the files.
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dicko99 said:
I'm seeing the same "BTTrayCE is not a valid application" error after installing TTN 7.450.
Does anybody know of a workaround that will enable both BlueTooth and TomTom to work?
Is a hard reset the only way to get BT working again? What about uninstalling TomTom?
R.
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Uninstalling tomtom does not help for me.

The files are replaced on the device so a hard reset is the easiest way back.
TT 7.910.9185 is running fine on mine, I did have the same issue with another version of TT7 though, but simply hard reset to recover and started again.
I think (although have not verified) that the BT Stack on the Rhodium has been updated to a Broadcom stack.
Can confirm that the above version works fine, great resolution and no issues using BT after install and with the new BT Stack you can now route all audio from the Rhodium through your hands free / car kit
Cheers,
Beasty

I did have a problem with v7.915.9196 where the device bootup was delayed by about a minute and a half (from 1m20 to about 3m from cold to starting Mobile Shell) which I had to get around by not installing the TomTom BT files.

I used TT7_915.9196_VGA__Negro.cab which does not appear to have the bluetooth files in it.

and this version could also be purchased on tomtom with ur chosen map on an sd-card? just to avoid having to hard reset and stuff after trying to install
thx.

I removed the bluetooth files from the cab with WinCE CAB Manager and installed tomtom agian, now everything works fine.
I'm now using tomtom version 7.450.9028 , i think it will work with other versions to
Thanks!

wonderful, great info now i have one less thing to worry about when my TP2 gets here thanks dude!
EDIT.: Pardon the perhaps n00b question, but i get an error while trying to run the .exe. is it meant for running on the phone or on the pc? i use winxp

TomTom7 Navigator problems

Hi,
I've search the forum to find my answer but with no result... Let me explain my problem:
I'm using Christians WM6.5.1 ROM (latest build). Everything works fine except TT7. I've tried several caps but none of them works perfect... The thing is that it won't recognize the build in GPS module. The app says "No GPS device!"
I allready tried to set the settings to "Another NMEA receiver" on the GPS-baudspeed of 57600 and COM:4... But it won't work...
With my TyTnII I didn't experience any problems but I'm pretty desperate to find the solution so I won't need my old Garmin Nav.System any more.
Does someone has an answer to my problem? Or maybe the same problem?
Please help!

hi.
i am also using christian's rom and i am using tomtom 7 without any problem.did you update your gpsfix data?use quick gps and update your data.if you cant get proper signal it will show 'no gps found'.once you pick up the signal it will work properly.
good luck.

Well the main problem is that the gps device that is build in the xperia x1 wil have to find the gps locations..
The first time it will take about 2 to 10 minutes before it finds the locations. After that first time it will take a few seconds to 30 seconds before it finds it's locations..
I had the same problem and it drove me crazy untill I found 2 posts on the internet that saved my life.
Just place your Xperia somewhere on a table in the garden and wait for it to load.
Greetings from Holland.

If I'm not wrong you should use the internal GPS and set the baudrate to 4800. 57600 is way too large.
Okay, I don't use Win 6.5, but also using 6.1 57600 is not working.

Hi,
I've tried your tip but without any results... TomTom tells me that there were no satalites which I was conected to but still got my location pretty pointed...
I drove the entire way on my TomTom but without GPS fix... I downloaded the newest position with QuickGPS before I ran TT7.
Could this be a bug or is it locating me on another way...?

i am using tomtom 7.915.9196.vga_black.cab without any problem.which radio version are you using?seems you are having very weird problem.good luck.

I use TTN_7.916.9189 and there are not problems

got christians rom too and tomtom 7.xx runs better than under windows 6.1 stock rom

Got it working... Don't ask how I did it Cause I really have no clue...!
But I'm really happy it finally works! Now I've got to see how I can get it into my "On The Road" panel to set it as my default navigator

also using christian's latest clean WWE rom.
it does find some satelites in tomtom 7.9xxxxxx, but still not possible to navigate or find a way.
what did you do?
i even let tomtom run till my battery got empty, but no luck?
maybe its the radio, still got the old one i think?
going to update to 7.915.9196.vga_black.cab now, hope that helps

neonlite said:
also using christian's latest clean WWE rom.
it does find some satelites in tomtom 7.9xxxxxx, but still not possible to navigate or find a way.
what did you do?
i even let tomtom run till my battery got empty, but no luck?
maybe its the radio, still got the old one i think?
going to update to 7.915.9196.vga_black.cab now, hope that helps
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Try radio version 1.16.25.48 and update quickgps