I'm on a Cingular 8525. Updated the SPL, radio, and am currently running WM6 Black Edition. When my 8525 was completely "stock" and running WM5, I noticed that every morning I had to soft reset the device after leaving it charge over-night. Sometimes daily too and just totally random. The phone would "freeze" or be unresponsive, so i had to soft reset it. Not very stable in the "stock" condition. Ok, so after upgrading to WM6, I'm running into almost the same problem. Is this pretty normal? It's annoying, but if this is just one of those things that 'happens', then so-be-it, but I did notice the upgrades have limited the soft resets. Are there known apps that can cause this "problem"? Searching the forums I've seen others with the same or similar problem, but no real definitive "reasons". Any advice on said matter would be MUCH appreciated.
Sincerely,
SFC Fin
ronfin44 said:
I'm on a Cingular 8525. Updated the SPL, radio, and am currently running WM6 Black Edition. When my 8525 was completely "stock" and running WM5, I noticed that every morning I had to soft reset the device after leaving it charge over-night. Sometimes daily too and just totally random. The phone would "freeze" or be unresponsive, so i had to soft reset it. Not very stable in the "stock" condition. Ok, so after upgrading to WM6, I'm running into almost the same problem. Is this pretty normal? It's annoying, but if this is just one of those things that 'happens', then so-be-it, but I did notice the upgrades have limited the soft resets. Are there known apps that can cause this "problem"? Searching the forums I've seen others with the same or similar problem, but no real definitive "reasons". Any advice on said matter would be MUCH appreciated.
Sincerely,
SFC Fin
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What 3rd party apps ahve you installed?? and what stuff is running??
I presume its black v2.0 correct? (if not then upgrade to 2.0)
3rd party apps currently running are as followed:
Wisbar Advance, and WADesktop
Photo Contacts Pro
MagiCall
psshutXP
That's pretty much the only things running. I'm gonna take your advice and update to 2.0
*Question: Are the above mentioned apps that I have currently running known to be "buggy" or to cause this soft-reset problem?
Thanks,
Fin
Almost all SPB software is known to cause one crash or another, remove WAD and WA and see what the effect is??
Besides the black theme is cool looking anyway!
EDIT: upgrade as described in my guide to make sure you have the latest SPL and radio.
Figures! lol The apps I like to skin my device cause problems. Murphy's Law v2.0!
Ok, I'm on radio 1.38, and SPL 1.3Oli Upgradind the SPL wont cause any modifications correct? Also, to re-inforce your statement on "SpB" software, I tried to use SpB Shell last night and it sucked, to be blunt. Once the bugs of 2.0 are worked out in the next few days by the initial "testers" and "CAB" makers, I'll join the masses once again, and just in time for the next upgrade!
Again, thanks for all your help,
Fin
Not Wisbar
I have both Wisbar Advance and Desktop and I don't run into the soft reset problem. I am running WMXL0.20 and everything is running smoothly.
ronfin44 said:
Figures! lol The apps I like to skin my device cause problems. Murphy's Law v2.0!
Ok, I'm on radio 1.38, and SPL 1.3Oli Upgradind the SPL wont cause any modifications correct? Also, to re-inforce your statement on "SpB" software, I tried to use SpB Shell last night and it sucked, to be blunt. Once the bugs of 2.0 are worked out in the next few days by the initial "testers" and "CAB" makers, I'll join the masses once again, and just in time for the next upgrade!
Again, thanks for all your help,
Fin
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ronfin44,
Do you have your ext rom mounted? I have the problem you describe if I leave my ext rom mounted, but when I unmount it all problem go away and it never needs a reset.
Not sure. Need a point in the right direct as far as EXT ROM MOUNT goes. So is this a good idea?
Also, I have a sync issue, so upgrading to SPL 1.40 is temporarily on hold. It doesn't "settle down" like the guide states. It stays in a constant state of "syncronising", where the green animation keeps on rolling and Active Sync never comes to a final stop. I can upload new apps and delete things still, but I'm cautious to continue with a ROM update if this sync issue could cause me to brick my pants and device.
Fin
You mount the ext rom through HTweaksC, so if you don't remember doing it it isn't done. Sorry I couldn't help.
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You mount the ext rom through HTweaksC, so if you don't remember doing it it isn't done. Sorry I couldn't help.
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Actually, you helped by saying that. Since I haven't touched HTweaksC, I'm un-mounted at this time...and damn does that sound gay when you re-read it. hahaha
Ok, so on to this sync issue. I'm gonna upgrade to ActiveSync 4.5 and see if that stops the constant problem before I up my ROM to SPL 1.40
EDIT: ***I'm an Idiot*** Ok, glad I ask so many questions over and over, cause after asking about my sync issues I went BACK into the ActiveSync thread after updating a ROM, and noticed I never made the proper changes. Guess what, all fixed. See, following the guide completely makes less of these annoying posts.
From reading your post's, it doesn't appear if you fixed your lockup problem yet..
If not, do you have a storage card installed?
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From reading your post's, it doesn't appear if you fixed your lockup problem yet..
If not, do you have a storage card installed?
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Roger that, I have a 2G card installed. Upgraded to SPL 1.40 also. Fixed sync problems too.
I have had lockup problems just as you describe with bone stock wm5 and nothing on the today whatsoever, but had a card in.
If you dig deep back in the hermes thread, I posted about lockups long ago, and it even came back on my xdalive 0.1 install, but it had been so long ago, I initially forgot how to fix it.
I have yet to determine if it is related to a file name, size, or possibly the ammount/number of files, but I can have my device locking up for days in a row, and then Ill clean out my storage card, and it's everytime I clean the junk out of the root of the card, and put it into folders, all is fine.
Ill even go for a month or so and have a lot of crap in there, and it wont do it..so I could be wrong, but you might give your card a cleaning, or try pullin it for a night, and see if it locks up.
That is if its still doin it...the "fixed activesync too" has me sightly confused...even though you said "roger that"....so Im not 100% sure if you meant its still locking up or not.
I had also freeze, lockup, wakeup and charging overnight issues with the shipped Dopod 838pro WM05 ROM, even after soft reset.
Then i tried to flash with newer Australian WM05 ROM, then it became more stable and i did softreset only once every week.
With WM06 i tried first time to use WM06 with XDA Live! V0.2 ROM, then it became unstabile again. On one hand it solved the charging overnight issue but on the other hand other issues remains there.
The i tried now with LVSW Edition (2007-03-26) ROM, all problem solved now. I have no above mentioned issues any longer. I never do softreset until now since 27-03-2007. I think it is the most stable ROM i ever have. You may try to use this ROM also.
Good Luck!
Seems as microSD card is to Blame
We're investigating the lockups for some time, since also reported with stock ROM. Tests conducted on both Hermes 100 (IMate JasJam), and Hermes 200 (HTC TyTN). Tested with all WM6 ROMs, now on Black2.
Build: 17740.0.2.0
AKU: 0.2.0
CE: 5.2.968
Radio: 1.38.00.10
S/W install status: No SPB s/w, no Today screen PIns, both with Taiwan controller cards (Sandisk and TekQ) and with Japan controller cards (original Toshiba and Kingston 1GB). Only SatNav app on card, no Today PIn, normally closed.
When microSD is in device: once every 12 Hrs. Lockup. LEDs On, no Power On, not getting calls. Long (2 secs) time from pressing power button, to Device Power-On. Only SR to release.
No such problems when micro (any) SD card is out.
If you care to test on your device and report, it will be appreciated. Just take off the mSD for 48 Hrs.
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We're investigating the lockups for some time, since also reported with stock ROM. Tests conducted on both Hermes 100 (IMate JasJam), and Hermes 200 (HTC TyTN). Tested with all WM6 ROMs, now on Black2.
Build: 17740.0.2.0
AKU: 0.2.0
CE: 5.2.968
Radio: 1.38.00.10
S/W install status: No SPB s/w, no Today screen PIns, both with Taiwan controller cards (Sandisk and TekQ) and with Japan controller cards (original Toshiba and Kingston 1GB). Only SatNav app on card, no Today PIn, normally closed.
When microSD is in device: once every 12 Hrs. Lockup. LEDs On, no Power On, not getting calls. Long (2 secs) time from pressing power button, to Device Power-On. Only SR to release.
No such problems when micro (any) SD card is out.
If you care to test on your device and report, it will be appreciated. Just take off the mSD for 48 Hrs.
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The Israeli Team
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Nope sorry my device works fine with my 2GB SD card in!? I use phonealarm (retail beta 9 build 126) and coreplayer, none of my apps are installed to the card they are ALL installed to the device....could that be the issue???
Hmmm...
mrvanx said:
Nope sorry my device works fine with my 2GB SD card in!? I use phonealarm (retail beta 9 build 126) and coreplayer, none of my apps are installed to the card they are ALL installed to the device....could that be the issue???
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Card seems to be the problem here too... No Card in, no lookups at all... but we have something other folks here certainly don't, on top of all we have a non core level localization environment that may add an unknown to the equation. I'm gonna put back the cards, and suspend the localization to re-test.
As in OMC's, card is one of my usual suspects, but so is the localization,
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No lockups here anymore, with EVERYTHING installed to sd..except dialer skins...etc.
To everyone that are finding out it is sd card related, and you find out pulling it helps, I advise to clean out your card, and leave nothing, except folders/directories in the sd card root, I do keep .tsk themes in the root, so they show in settings...so Im not sayin it always has to be clean.
Im not sayin that Im 100% right...and people with lockups might already have empty sd cards...but I can simply move files from my root with resco explorer, and it goes away.
Hopefully this won't be in the invisible font, that I think gets used for my posts sometimes.
I can just add that some time ago when I owned a Wizard it used to freeze when I used Wisbar. Without it, it either didn't freeze at all or rarely, just don't remember. In case of my first Hermes (T-Mobile version) it was the same. Now my new one freezes without it. What I checked was that it usually freezes while charged. If I left it without charging over night I was ok in the morning.
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No lockups here anymore, with EVERYTHING installed to sd..except dialer skins...etc.
To everyone that are finding out it is sd card related, and you find out pulling it helps, I advise to clean out your card, and leave nothing, except folders/directories in the sd card root, I do keep .tsk themes in the root, so they show in settings...so Im not sayin it always has to be clean.
Im not sayin that Im 100% right...and people with lockups might already have empty sd cards...but I can simply move files from my root with resco explorer, and it goes away.
Hopefully this won't be in the invisible font, that I think gets used for my posts sometimes.
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Ok, I know my SD card is a mess, so I'll clean it up, and report back in 24 hrs. I guess I'll report on each step and see if anything fixes the problem, and if a "fix" works, or the SR's become rare, I'll backup one step and see if they re-occur, so atleast we'll know what helps cure this problem, or atleast make it a rare occurrence.
Fin
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I haven't found anyone else in TP2 forums report this problem I have on reboot, but can anyone help? After inputting my PIN, a screen comes up stating "We're Sorry... A problem has occurred with services.exe" and it asks if I want to send a report to Microsoft, but if I click either "send" or "don't send", it then appears to function normally.
I, too, have this problem, but hesitated to bring it up here because my assumption was that it must have something to do with a tweak I have done or some software I have installed (and then subsequently uninstalled?). As such, the parameters are too broad (I would have thought) to be able to determine why this is happening. Are you also working with an AT&T Tilt2, stock ROM?
I too have this problem, if it occurs overnight, my alarm will not go off, and it get stuck on the time that it happens until i click ok. kinda sucks
I had it - tech support (AT&T) exchanged the phone
I had it - tech support (AT&T) exchanged the phone
It was within the first thirty days
my 30 days is up
Also got it with my TP2. Dutch stock rom windows mobile 6.5
Also getting the error after a restart sometimes, or randomly in wimo 6.5. Never had it until my wimo ran out of power when playing a game... It shutted off on it's own. Now i randomly get that error so once in awhile. I even did a hard reset, but still getting it sometimes. But not always after restarting...
Bit strange... Don't notice anything not working though. Everything seems to be working fine... Is there a way to disable error reports in wimo?
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... I even did a hard reset, but still getting it sometimes ...
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Wow, thanks for the info -- I was actually considering a hard reset because of this -- you've saved me the trouble!
pistou said:
...Are you also working with an AT&T Tilt2, stock ROM?
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I have stock HTC 6.5 ROM (WWE). It's not a major problem and only occurs if I reboot - luckily it does not happen randomly for me or when unlocking or switching the phone transmitter off and then on again.
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It's not a major problem and only occurs if I reboot.
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Now, on reboots I'm also getting an error message about gwes.exe -- comes right after the one about services.exe.
I get it too. Stock Rom with plenty of apps and stuff added.
Me Too
I started having this and other errors after installing Hou Ming's fexploreext205. I had just started to look for a replacement when I ran across this thread.
nycny said:
I started having this and other errors after installing Hou Ming's fexploreext205. I had just started to look for a replacement when I ran across this thread.
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Darn, I don't have this app installed, but this line of investigation may yet yield results. I'm going to try to see if I can figure out the history of my installs (good luck!).
OK, I bit the proverbial bullet and did a hard reset. It's taken me a couple of days but I've got all the software re-installed (with a soft reset after each install! -- more or less) and so far so good: no service.exe (or any other) errors. Let's just hope there isn't some periodic thing that will trigger the error down the road.
I just downloaded and upgraded my Touch Pro2 now to the WM6.5 for GCC and Egypt. However, anytime i do a soft reset i get the following error message:
A problem has occurred with services.exe
And then the blah-blah about telling Microsoft about this problem.
This doesn't happen however if i shutdown and the restart the Touch Pro 2.
I have done a hard reboot and still i get this error. I have posted this on HTC support site. Let's see what they say.
Now appears cured!
azuka said:
I have posted this on HTC support site. Let's see what they say.
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For some reason I now don't get it. I have no idea why as I haven't been trying to solve it specifically and have not hard reset!
@azuka: Please let us know what HTC say.
i also have this problem..
using stock 6.5 WWE SEA rom
happened after installing some programs..
however doesn't seem to affect or give any problems after
clicking don't send or send ..
would love to know why this occurs tho..
thx
Same thing happened to me. I have the new leaked t-mobile 6.5.
I did the hard reset and it happened to me again after i installed a few programs so i decided to reflash the with the t-mobile rom again and thank God it hasn't happened since the morning. i have been installing the programs one by one with a soft reset right after every new install trying to recreate the problem but it hasn't happen..
i hope it stays that way.
I have the original HTC rom (ITALIAN) and I have this problem if i deactivate Manila and i activate Titanium interface. I think there is some program that try to "talk" with manila during boot.
Now I enabled Manila again and it works like a charm.. (But I miss Titanium interface.. )
HTC simply asked me to download the WM6.5 upgrade again and reinstall. This i did and surprisingly i have not received that error again. 3days+ now and still counting.
Hey guys, i haven't ever really posted on here other than when i first got my TP2 months ago. Since then i have had 9 replacements for various things, all of which have been hardware related. Things like constant freeze-ups, always telling me i have un-read messages when i don't...anywhere. and some others but those two are the main ones. So i am asking you guys what do i need to do to stop myself from body slamming this phone across my living room? Every single phone i get has the un-read message problem. And after about a month of use they all constantly freeze. I can't stand having to do literally 8+ battery pulls a day because the phone doesn't want to work anymore.
Any ideas? What ROM are you guys all running and what seems to be the most stable? I have never upgraded a ROM before so i have no idea what i am doing there as i have always been a MAC user. However, i do have access to a PC. Any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: Another thing it does is when i get a call or text the phone will vibrate non stop until i turn it off and restart it. This also happens 2-3 time daily.
irishguy0224 said:
Hey guys, i haven't ever really posted on here other than when i first got my TP2 months ago. Since then i have had 9 replacements for various things, all of which have been hardware related. Things like constant freeze-ups, always telling me i have un-read messages when i don't...anywhere. and some others but those two are the main ones. So i am asking you guys what do i need to do to stop myself from body slamming this phone across my living room? Every single phone i get has the un-read message problem. And after about a month of use they all constantly freeze. I can't stand having to do literally 8+ battery pulls a day because the phone doesn't want to work anymore.
Any ideas? What ROM are you guys all running and what seems to be the most stable? I have never upgraded a ROM before so i have no idea what i am doing there as i have always been a MAC user. However, i do have access to a PC. Any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: Another thing it does is when i get a call or text the phone will vibrate non stop until i turn it off and restart it. This also happens 2-3 time daily.
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What version of TP2 -- e.g, T-Mo USA, Verizon, World-Wide/Euro -- do you have?
irishguy0224 said:
Hey guys, i haven't ever really posted on here other than when i first got my TP2 months ago. Since then i have had 9 replacements for various things, all of which have been hardware related. Things like constant freeze-ups, always telling me i have un-read messages when i don't...anywhere. and some others but those two are the main ones. So i am asking you guys what do i need to do to stop myself from body slamming this phone across my living room? Every single phone i get has the un-read message problem. And after about a month of use they all constantly freeze. I can't stand having to do literally 8+ battery pulls a day because the phone doesn't want to work anymore.
Any ideas? What ROM are you guys all running and what seems to be the most stable? I have never upgraded a ROM before so i have no idea what i am doing there as i have always been a MAC user. However, i do have access to a PC. Any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: Another thing it does is when i get a call or text the phone will vibrate non stop until i turn it off and restart it. This also happens 2-3 time daily.
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The things that you mention are not hardware problems but software. So they can be solved by flashing a new rom. I suggest you read the how to flash for noobs thread.
Try a valkyre rom and read the last pages of that thread to see if there are issues etc
A new ROM may very well help sort out your problems, but the excessive problems you have been having make one wonder if there is not some other issue. So before you go to flashing a new rom, it might be a good idea to do some troubleshooting first to try and narrow down the problem.
First, a few questions:
1)What UI are you using? (i.e., Touchflow 3d, Sense, SPB Mobile Shell, Titanium, Classic today?)
2) What programs are you installing?
3) Are you doing any registry edits? Or using custom programs that do registry edits for you? (Things like configuration tools that you installed)
While answering the questions may shed some light on why you are having problems, here is the first thing I would try that could help narrow down the issue:
1) Dissable any custom UIs (start -> settings -> today -> items tab -> select Windows default -> hit OK) then soft reset your phone. Use it for a day and see if any of the problems go away, then report back.
I've got some other ideas, but will hold out on those until looking at your responses to the others above... good luck.
Hey guys and thanks for the replies. I am on a Verizon TP2. Running the stock HTC Sense ROM that came on my last replacement. I do not have anything custom running on the phone and only have 2 apps on the phone itself (facebook and personal assistant). I have given up putting them on there since i have been replacing the phone so often. Problems are still happening.
Thoughts?
Have you tried yet dissabling sense and running for a day to see if there are any improvements? If that doesn't work, I would move on to a hard reset, then disable Sense, and see if it is better. If it was, I would re-enable sense and dissable the email and sms tabs and see....
Meanwhile, I would also be reading the newbie guide to flashing new roms... as it is really odd to be seeing these sorts of problems with nothing installed on the phone.
I am correct that you haven't installed the facebook and personal assistant programs since your last hard reset? I only ask because the product description for the personal assistant looks like it is somewhat invasive into your phone (i.e., it can track minute use and such) and could possibly be the culprit for some or even most of your issues...
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Hey guys and thanks for the replies. I am on a Verizon TP2. Running the stock HTC Sense ROM that came on my last replacement. I do not have anything custom running on the phone and only have 2 apps on the phone itself (facebook and personal assistant). I have given up putting them on there since i have been replacing the phone so often. Problems are still happening.
Thoughts?
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ur previous statement says your a mac guy. what a re you doing with a windows phone? thats just a recipe for disaster.....
try flashing to an NRG rom. I personally have been using cookie energy for months and never had any problems. this may be a lil too complicated for a "mac" user tho.