[Q] I'm on my last nerve with this TP2! help!! - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hey guys, i haven't ever really posted on here other than when i first got my TP2 months ago. Since then i have had 9 replacements for various things, all of which have been hardware related. Things like constant freeze-ups, always telling me i have un-read messages when i don't...anywhere. and some others but those two are the main ones. So i am asking you guys what do i need to do to stop myself from body slamming this phone across my living room? Every single phone i get has the un-read message problem. And after about a month of use they all constantly freeze. I can't stand having to do literally 8+ battery pulls a day because the phone doesn't want to work anymore.
Any ideas? What ROM are you guys all running and what seems to be the most stable? I have never upgraded a ROM before so i have no idea what i am doing there as i have always been a MAC user. However, i do have access to a PC. Any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: Another thing it does is when i get a call or text the phone will vibrate non stop until i turn it off and restart it. This also happens 2-3 time daily.

irishguy0224 said:
Hey guys, i haven't ever really posted on here other than when i first got my TP2 months ago. Since then i have had 9 replacements for various things, all of which have been hardware related. Things like constant freeze-ups, always telling me i have un-read messages when i don't...anywhere. and some others but those two are the main ones. So i am asking you guys what do i need to do to stop myself from body slamming this phone across my living room? Every single phone i get has the un-read message problem. And after about a month of use they all constantly freeze. I can't stand having to do literally 8+ battery pulls a day because the phone doesn't want to work anymore.
Any ideas? What ROM are you guys all running and what seems to be the most stable? I have never upgraded a ROM before so i have no idea what i am doing there as i have always been a MAC user. However, i do have access to a PC. Any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: Another thing it does is when i get a call or text the phone will vibrate non stop until i turn it off and restart it. This also happens 2-3 time daily.
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What version of TP2 -- e.g, T-Mo USA, Verizon, World-Wide/Euro -- do you have?

irishguy0224 said:
Hey guys, i haven't ever really posted on here other than when i first got my TP2 months ago. Since then i have had 9 replacements for various things, all of which have been hardware related. Things like constant freeze-ups, always telling me i have un-read messages when i don't...anywhere. and some others but those two are the main ones. So i am asking you guys what do i need to do to stop myself from body slamming this phone across my living room? Every single phone i get has the un-read message problem. And after about a month of use they all constantly freeze. I can't stand having to do literally 8+ battery pulls a day because the phone doesn't want to work anymore.
Any ideas? What ROM are you guys all running and what seems to be the most stable? I have never upgraded a ROM before so i have no idea what i am doing there as i have always been a MAC user. However, i do have access to a PC. Any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: Another thing it does is when i get a call or text the phone will vibrate non stop until i turn it off and restart it. This also happens 2-3 time daily.
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The things that you mention are not hardware problems but software. So they can be solved by flashing a new rom. I suggest you read the how to flash for noobs thread.
Try a valkyre rom and read the last pages of that thread to see if there are issues etc

A new ROM may very well help sort out your problems, but the excessive problems you have been having make one wonder if there is not some other issue. So before you go to flashing a new rom, it might be a good idea to do some troubleshooting first to try and narrow down the problem.
First, a few questions:
1)What UI are you using? (i.e., Touchflow 3d, Sense, SPB Mobile Shell, Titanium, Classic today?)
2) What programs are you installing?
3) Are you doing any registry edits? Or using custom programs that do registry edits for you? (Things like configuration tools that you installed)
While answering the questions may shed some light on why you are having problems, here is the first thing I would try that could help narrow down the issue:
1) Dissable any custom UIs (start -> settings -> today -> items tab -> select Windows default -> hit OK) then soft reset your phone. Use it for a day and see if any of the problems go away, then report back.
I've got some other ideas, but will hold out on those until looking at your responses to the others above... good luck.

Hey guys and thanks for the replies. I am on a Verizon TP2. Running the stock HTC Sense ROM that came on my last replacement. I do not have anything custom running on the phone and only have 2 apps on the phone itself (facebook and personal assistant). I have given up putting them on there since i have been replacing the phone so often. Problems are still happening.
Thoughts?

Have you tried yet dissabling sense and running for a day to see if there are any improvements? If that doesn't work, I would move on to a hard reset, then disable Sense, and see if it is better. If it was, I would re-enable sense and dissable the email and sms tabs and see....
Meanwhile, I would also be reading the newbie guide to flashing new roms... as it is really odd to be seeing these sorts of problems with nothing installed on the phone.
I am correct that you haven't installed the facebook and personal assistant programs since your last hard reset? I only ask because the product description for the personal assistant looks like it is somewhat invasive into your phone (i.e., it can track minute use and such) and could possibly be the culprit for some or even most of your issues...

irishguy0224 said:
Hey guys and thanks for the replies. I am on a Verizon TP2. Running the stock HTC Sense ROM that came on my last replacement. I do not have anything custom running on the phone and only have 2 apps on the phone itself (facebook and personal assistant). I have given up putting them on there since i have been replacing the phone so often. Problems are still happening.
Thoughts?
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ur previous statement says your a mac guy. what a re you doing with a windows phone? thats just a recipe for disaster.....
try flashing to an NRG rom. I personally have been using cookie energy for months and never had any problems. this may be a lil too complicated for a "mac" user tho.

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Black Shadow IV Problem

Hey guys,
First post on the forum, so I hope I don't offend/irritate with my dumbass questions,
I successfully flashed to the Black Shadow IV rom yesterday. I installed all th e helpful cab files to restore my settings to the orange standard and got the skdcert fix for the voicemail quirk. All seems (seemed) to be running smoothly but I then stumble upon a problem.
I have found that I am resetting the device more than I should due to the fact that whenever I try to make a call, 5 times out of 10 the phone just crashes, all the buttons freeze up and the touch screen doesn't respond. On the odd occassion the buttons freeze but the screen still responds butr there's no way to drop the call. It just wont have it.
I upgraded to the Black IV shadow rom, but did not upgrade the radio which was out of the box at version 1.38.00.01. Could this be the root of the problem? I am running SPL- 2.10 Olipro.
Any ideas guys, you're the experts, I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut.
Thanks in advance.
Gav
The 1.38 radio is pretty stable. However, if you are in the US, you might want to try upgrading it to the 1.40 radio which is AT&T optimized.
That ROM was released and is supported here: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-hermes/
Same happend to me too, I used Black Shadow IV for a week and now removed it, It is not stable.
My Jasjam hangs all the time and when conncting to PC.
Regards
Yeah, same. I used it for 3 days or so and crashed frequently. No additional programs installed either. BAD ROM
i've had nothing but a good experience with Shadow IV. ::shrug:: seems stable enough to me. it's never locked up on me and i've never had to reset except when i chose to to clear out the old memory once in a while.
as i mentioned in another thread, i have not installed any spb apps since they seem to have problems w/ WM6. i've had problems on a couple of different ROMs w/ the Spb apps.
could it be something that you've got installed and not the ROM itself? i had to do a little process of elimiation by installing basically one or two apps a day and seeing how it ran. things started going badly when the Spb apps were on there (Mobiel Shell, Time, Weather, Diary) so I haven't reinstalled them.
anyway, it could be something other than the ROM that is causing the instability.
regards,
mark
having multiple problems as well. cannot send text messages on cingular even after trying multiple fixes, frequent slowdowns, have had to soft reset at least once daily and also having problems with random lockups when charging. Going to reflash another rom.
having multiple problems as well. cannot send text messages on cingular even after trying multiple fixes, frequent slowdowns, have had to soft reset at least once daily and also having problems with random lockups when charging. Going to reflash another rom.
Am on Orange UK, and after running Black shadow for a while now I would rate it as the most stable ROM I have used. Admittedly I have only dabbled with some of the others, but have not felt the need to do more as am happy with what I have.
I did have an issue with SPB weather that others did not seem to have, but after romoving it, everything seems to be running fine. I soft reset every few days etc but I am happy with that.
Tis a bit strong to write BAD ROM with such certainty based on an individual experience, given that it works well for so many. Perhaps "This ROM did not work well for me" would be better.
Just a thought.
Sleuth255 said:
The 1.38 radio is pretty stable. However, if you are in the US, you might want to try upgrading it to the 1.40 radio which is AT&T optimized.
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May be it is the radio rom, I have now installed radio 1.38 then Black Shadow IV and will try it for a few days and see how it works.
Also crash
Also crash and then back to Black 3.5 rom is Stable!
Still the same even with Radio 1.38, Crash when connected to PC and deep sleep in standby.
Use to have same problems while running CE-Star. Virtually permanently freezing on making/receiving calls, sending SMS and simple operations with the device.
After manualy setting chinese character set (thanks to XDA-Devs WIKI ) the ROM is extremely stable. Even trying to "destroy" the system with multiple operations (calls, internet browsing, sync, installing new soft, etc.) do not freezes it - very stable.
Suspect in your case you are using software which makes some changes to the system, consequently destabilizes the ROM
marttin said:
Use to have same problems while running CE-Star. Virtually permanently freezing on making/receiving calls, sending SMS and simple operations with the device.
After manualy setting chinese character set (thanks to XDA-Devs WIKI ) the ROM is extremely stable. Even trying to "destroy" the system with multiple operations (calls, internet browsing, sync, installing new soft, etc.) do not freezes it - very stable.
Suspect in your case you are using software which makes some changes to the system, consequently destabilizes the ROM
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Hi,i am runing Black 3.0.1 and ce-star,like ou said freezing ,and my problem is when i use CE-STAR keyboard,it is Freezing too.where i can find the setting chinese charscter set?
thanks
Been running Black Shadow for 5 days, alongwith Radio 1.43, without any problem...
I've been running Black Shadow on T-mo US w/1.43 rom and I've had no problems.
I have been running Black Shadow since it was released and no problems so far.
chg1282002 said:
Hi,i am runing Black 3.0.1 and ce-star,like ou said freezing ,and my problem is when i use CE-STAR keyboard,it is Freezing too.where i can find the setting chinese charscter set?
thanks
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Use WIKI and SEARCH funstion
You can go first to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and click on Hermes. After that use SEARCH function with keyword "chinese". Should get the following page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweak_Language_Chinese
I am using for few days Black Shadow with 1.43 Radio, able to read Chinese Characters thanks to the described in WIKI method and no problems. Personaly I installed A4 input method as it serves me at best. I didn't change the registry manualy, but used the cab, it works perfect. Simply follow the instructions.
The only issue is that when serving internet with IE Chinese sites do not apear properly. Suppose it is needed additional fixing of the fonts in IE. Do not have time at present to explore the issue, but suppose to deal with it next week. In case you find a solution for IE please share the method on this thread-- Thanks
PS. Have tested Micrsoft Input -- simply do not works. Causes a lot of problems and destroys totaly the standard inputs
All,
I have been running this ROM for just under a week and the thing has been 100% solid - not a single problem.
I also agree with a previous statement in this thread, that to refer to the ROM as "BAD" based on a single attempt is somewhat unfair! Maybe it is this sort of thing that has forced some of the more senior Hermes developers away from this site and on to another location. Ever thought about it that way?
It is just my opinion, but we (all forum users) should do one of two things if we "chose" to use someone elses development. They are,
Acknowledge (privately or publically) the time and effort that has gone into producing something. The best way to do that is by constructive feedback even if the experience hasn't been as you expected
Say nothing if you can't make it constructive!
To place a one liner in a response with a "throw away" comment is about as useful to either the developer or the other forum users as.........well,..................no I won't go any further because it's not constructive
For the record - this version of the Black release has rectified a localised issue I was having with my WLAN that other version had not resolved.
If you chose to use it - great, join in. If not, equally great. Good luck with your chosen selection of ROM.
Rant end
marttin said:
Use WIKI and SEARCH funstion
You can go first to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and click on Hermes. After that use SEARCH function with keyword "chinese". Should get the following page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweak_Language_Chinese
I am using for few days Black Shadow with 1.43 Radio, able to read Chinese Characters thanks to the described in WIKI method and no problems. Personaly I installed A4 input method as it serves me at best. I didn't change the registry manualy, but used the cab, it works perfect. Simply follow the instructions.
The only issue is that when serving internet with IE Chinese sites do not apear properly. Suppose it is needed additional fixing of the fonts in IE. Do not have time at present to explore the issue, but suppose to deal with it next week. In case you find a solution for IE please share the method on this thread-- Thanks
PS. Have tested Micrsoft Input -- simply do not works. Causes a lot of problems and destroys totaly the standard inputs
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thanks a lot

Activesync wont work

This phone has basically become a nightmare. Im seriously considering getting rid of it and just going back to a stable phone. Basically, im trying to get off the rom im currently on and suddenly activesync wont work for me. I just want to know if there's a different way to install roms. When i used to have a tilt years ago, i remember there being an alternative. So i just want to know if anyone knows what i can do as an alternative for installing a rom. Or if someone knows how to fix activesync, that would be helpful as well.
Under USB to Pc in settings-connections untick all boxes except the 1st one.
And if you want to get rid of your TP2 let me know
orb3000 said:
Under USB to Pc in settings-connections untick all boxes except the 1st one.
And if you want to get rid of your TP2 let me know
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thanx,.i love the phone, i just wish it were more stable at times. I installed this rom firestorm rom. So well see how that goes for a couple days. But ill let u know if so. So far, so good(but thats how all roms feel at first,..lol)
Yeah, in the beginning it´s like this
but now we have very good and stable ROM´s much better than official ones, just have patience!
Hope your activesync prob went away
Yea, im a pretty patient person, just I hate when a device locks up(that was my annoyance with the iphone 3G). Anyways, the current rom has been great so far(firestorm 4.8). It seems the problem lies in touch flow3d(atleast for me). Touch flow 3d causes me problems in certain things. Such as the last rom i tried which was an AF. Was great with everything, til i started getting into deep conversations via text messaging. Phone froze like 3 times on me, in a row. I had to keep removing battery and repowering which definitely angered me. But the rom i have now doesnt have touch flow, and i think thats the only way to go for a stable rom(atleast for me). I will have to get into another "textversation" to make sure its all going good. So far i like the stability and speed.

Why are Cooked ROMs so much more stable than Official ROMs

I have been using cooked ROMs for so long now that I can't even remember. Only very recently have I been forced to use official ROMs becuase of unavailability of HardSPLs.
I have only had this issue with two devices the Touch Pro2 and Imagio but i'm pretty sure that it happens with other models also.
Error examples:
'a problem has occurred with fexplorer.exe'
'a problem has occurred with services.exe'
I am a flash freek and every time I load about 100+ games and about 150+ applications so before everyone starts saying that when you load so many softwares something bad is bound to happen. I have already considered that but here is why i thing the problem is with official ROMs.
- I flashed official ROM and hard reset
- I first left out all the games and only installed the applications but the problem was still there.
- I then split the applications in half and after another hard reset tried with first batch and problem was there. I hard reset and also tried the second batch and problem was there.
- I am not so desperate an i am installing softwares one at a time and then testing for 10-15 mins and then installing the next software to pinpoint the problem.
even with the last approach I cannot pinpoint which software is causing the problem. Sometimes the phone crashes after 10 applications installed and sometimes after I reach 40 applications.
Now some of you will ask and suggest if maybe the problem is with the softwares. Most of the softwares I have are from freewarepocketpc.net but how can it be the software when all these softwares are the same ones that I have been using without any issues on Cooked ROMs for months and not a single crash on the Cooked ROMs.
I have been scratching my head and trying to figure out what is that secret ingredient in the Cooked ROMs that make them so stable and what can we do to make our official ROMs stable.
At one point I though Microsoft .NET Compact Framework was the culprit and so I tired several times with and without it installed and the problem was still there so I ruled it out.
I also tried installing SDK certs on the official ROM but that did'nt fix it either.
Help me out here guys, what am I missing, whats that Secret Ingredient in the cooked ROMs that make them so stable?
Fairy dust, us cooks sprinkle a little over the rom in the building process and it makes them super stable.
Personally I have never had those two errors on a stock rom. Might I ask which brand of those phones are you using? (aka, is it an AT&T, Telstra, Verizon, etc.) Sometimes (make that 99% of the time) the carrier's version of a rom is THE WORST there can be, causing problems like that.
With that note out of the way, you have tried using it without installing anything for a bit to see if the problem still persists right? If not, it could be one, or more likely more than one application is causing it to die.
the secret words for tonight are
"disable error reporting in your ROM"
most of cooks use this secret weapon.
=)
shadowline said:
Personally I have never had those two errors on a stock rom. Might I ask which brand of those phones are you using? (aka, is it an AT&T, Telstra, Verizon, etc.) Sometimes (make that 99% of the time) the carrier's version of a rom is THE WORST there can be, causing problems like that.
With that note out of the way, you have tried using it without installing anything for a bit to see if the problem still persists right? If not, it could be one, or more likely more than one application is causing it to die.
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For Verizon Imagio i've used the official shipped ROM
I also had the same problem on the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 with its shipped WM6.1 ROM and once the HardSPL came out, i tried with the European Pro2 WM6.5 Official ROM and that also had same problem.
Yes I tried using the ROMs without any softwares and they work just fine. So that brings me to the conclusion that the softwares that I am installing are causing this but the problem is how to pinpoint which softwares and if it turns out that a wide variety of softwares are causing this (my suspicion) then why is it happening only with official ROMs and not cooked ones?
serfer222 said:
the secret words for tonight are
"disable error reporting in your ROM"
most of cooks use this secret weapon.
=)
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Does this mean that windows mobile is so unstable that the only way to fix it is to give an illusion of stability by disabling the error reporting?
Say it isn't so, I love WM and if things are so bad with it then I have nowhere else to go.
serfer222 said:
the secret words for tonight are
"disable error reporting in your ROM"
most of cooks use this secret weapon.
=)
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We have a winner!
Thanks
serfer222 said:
the secret words for tonight are
"disable error reporting in your ROM"
most of cooks use this secret weapon.
=)
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After thinking about it a few minutes I get it now. I am shocked that I spent over week testing hundreds of softwares one by one when I could have just disabled the reporting. Thanks for the secret ingredient, i'll give it a go and report back in 1-2 days how my ROM is responding. I can already notice a slight increase in speed.
I know this is blashphemy on XDA, but I have the opposite issue. I've never encountered a cooked ROM as bug free as a stock ROM. Maybe this is b/c I've never bought a carrier phone and always gone for the unbranded, unlocked device, so I've had a clean stock rom to start off with... But with every cooked ROM I've tried (and to be fair, I don't flash regularly like I used to - so maybe things are getting better), there's always something wrong even if its a minute detail like text out of place on some screen hidden away in settings that most users don't find, or lost functionality of special buttons in oem programs like Opera (that most XDAers don't know about b/c they flash the first day they get the device), or lack of proper support for landscape, or improper bluetooth implementations where A2DP doesn't work like it used to, etc.
sonus said:
I know this is blashphemy on XDA, but I have the opposite issue. I've never encountered a cooked ROM as bug free as a stable ROM. Maybe this is b/c I've never bought a carrier phone and always gone for the unbranded, unlocked device, so I've had a clean stock rom to start off with... But with every cooked ROM I've tried (and to be fair, I don't flash regularly like I used to - so maybe things are getting better), there's always something wrong even if its a minute detail like text out of place on some screen hidden away in settings that most users don't find, or lost functionality of special buttons in oem programs like Opera (that most XDAers don't know about b/c they flash the first day they get the device), or lack of proper support for landscape, or improper bluetooth implementations where A2DP doesn't work like it used to, etc.
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I think a lot of cooks are very short-sighted on these issues. I have a habit of testing every button, every program and every feature multiple times before a ROM goes out the door, and I still miss things. Many of the factory ROM's I've used are bad in this regard as well (my Fuze connecting to a secured WiFi network for one). Cutting off the error reporting doesn't really do that much, but I've had crashes before where I had to turn it on to find a bug that was stopping the ROM from working.
Dizzy looking at ...
Man, I got dizzy by looking at your avatar.
Everyone says that.

PLEASE, for the love of God... stop tormenting me WM!

Why does this phone have to be soft reset so often...
Why does it eventually lag and hang up all the time randomly? I tried so many different roms and they just all result to the same problems after a few weeks use.
Is there no way to make this phone reliable???
I am ranting because I missed my job opportunity with a really big company because my phone froze when they called me and didn't receive my voicemails till days later for what ever reason....
This was the one and only time I really didn't want my phone to hang up, and it had to happen when the company CEO decided to call me back, but since my phone was stupid I wasn't able to respond to the offer in time (2 days later)...
Please... I'm tired of these Windows Mobile Problems...
Dang, that was a bad break. srry that happened to You. dayuum..i know u was pissed. so did it freeze up on u with the stock rom or some custom one u flashed to it? i never had my stock rom freeze up on me. Only when i was constantly trying new apps and downloads or drivers, it tried to act funny. Id reapply for that position and if u get to the point of call back again, take it and try to explain what happened the first time. All isnt lost, just keep your head up and keep trying.
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i never had my stock rom freeze up on me. Only when i was constantly trying new apps and downloads or drivers, it tried to act funny.
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Me too. Anyway, wish you luck if you decide to call back CEO and explain whats happened.
SlimJ87D you got pm
Sue Microsoft for selling you software that's not fit for purpose. It could turn into a class action because I'd say that statement could well be true about lots of software they sell.
Having used the TP2 for half a year, I have had none of the problems you mention.
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Having used the TP2 for half a year, I have had none of the problems you mention.
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I have been using WM for almost 4 years and everything SlimJ87D mentions makes total sense to me
i've been using WM since 2003 (7years exactly this august) and i cant remember the last time my device has hung up on me where calls/msgs didn't come in.
Also i'm what you'd call a power user, multiple apps open at the same time and doing 3 things at once.
The majority of lock-ups are from low ram. So just make sure you ram is always good, doing a system cache/temp file clean every now and then (i use dinarsoft's memmaid) and you should be good.
Also sometimes a buggy software will cause the device to freeze, up to you to figure out which one it is if you suspect one.
Best of luck and sucks about that job.
About 2 years ago my exchange server went down without me knowing and wasn't getting emails, when they finally did come through the next morning, i had received an important email concerning a contract deal, called the person back and they had gone with a competitor because i didn't reply soon enough. Lost some money on that and still pissed about it but technology does that to us every now and then.
dik23 said:
I have been using WM for almost 4 years and everything SlimJ87D mentions makes total sense to me
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A lot depends on the phone model and how well you tweak it. I've not had any trouble once the phone was operating correctly. This is one thing that is both a drawback and an advantage of WM - it is flexible, and rewards anyone who takes the time to get to know the OS and the particular phone model.
If you really want "out of the box" experience with any tweaking, I'd go for a different OS.
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...all the time randomly?
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lol... .
SlimJ87D said:
Why does this phone have to be soft reset so often...
Why does it eventually lag and hang up all the time randomly? I tried so many different roms and they just all result to the same problems after a few weeks use.
Is there no way to make this phone reliable???
I am ranting because I missed my job opportunity with a really big company because my phone froze when they called me and didn't receive my voicemails till days later for what ever reason....
This was the one and only time I really didn't want my phone to hang up, and it had to happen when the company CEO decided to call me back, but since my phone was stupid I wasn't able to respond to the offer in time (2 days later)...
Please... I'm tired of these Windows Mobile Problems...
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Wait...your phone froze while you were talking to the CEO of this company, and you couldn't call him back for TWO DAYS???
Ever hear of using another phone? Or a land line?
And I'm not sure what your problem with voice messages was. If you left them messages and they did not receive them, it's their voicemail systems fault, not WinMo's.
If WinMo did not notify you of voice messages that you had waiting, then simply call your voicemail number regardless of whether your phone says you have any or not. You could even call it from a different phone. Not doing so, especially when you are expecting important calls, is simply negligent. Every phone I have ever owned, long before I started to use WinMo, has failed to notify me of voice messages on numerous occasions.
This is as basic as keeping a backup copy of whatever important paper or project you are working on. It should be done with ALL phones, even the infallible iPhone.
I bet I could make an iPhone fail
MooGoo said:
Wait...your phone froze while you were talking to the CEO of this company, and you couldn't call him back for TWO DAYS???
Ever hear of using another phone? Or a land line?
And I'm not sure what your problem with voice messages was. If you left them messages and they did not receive them, it's their voicemail systems fault, not WinMo's.
If WinMo did not notify you of voice messages that you had waiting, then simply call your voicemail number regardless of whether your phone says you have any or not. You could even call it from a different phone. Not doing so, especially when you are expecting important calls, is simply negligent. Every phone I have ever owned, long before I started to use WinMo, has failed to notify me of voice messages on numerous occasions.
This is as basic as keeping a backup copy of whatever important paper or project you are working on. It should be done with ALL phones, even the infallible iPhone.
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Totally agree with moogoo here. The voicemail issue isn't really a hardware issue as much as it is YOU not checking your voicemail or them having issues with there voicemail. Not calling the CEO back right away AFTER you reset your phone... I just couldnt imagine the phone freezing on me and not reseting it and calling the person back right away.
You havn't said whether you are running a stock rom or a custom rom on your phone. If it's stock and you are having these issues I would probably go to where you bought the phone and just have them give you a new one as I've never heard of people having that many issues with their phone. If its a custom rom, the only time I hear of people having the issues you are having is because after flashing their phone they didnt do a hard reset after the initial boot up to make sure everything installs properly. 9 times out of 10 if your phone freezes as much as it does you probably just need to do a hard reset.
Now, the comment about it locking up and what not... if it does it every few days, well guess what. It's a freaking computer! I don't know about you but I dont leave my PC or laptop running for days at a time and expect it to be running as fast as it should. I usually turn those off every night or when I'm not using them. Now we cant just go ahead and turn our phones off at night that doesnt make sense BUT you can at least do a soft reset every now and again and it should speed things up. I know myself I do this at least every 2 days. Again... if it's being as glitchy as it is odds are you just need a hard reset. Try running one of NRG's roms as they seem to be the best out there, at least from the ones I've tried.
So moral of your story.... you need to hard reset your phone once if not twice after you install a new rom..... you need to check your voicemail even when it doesnt show you have missed calls.... you need to call people back immediatly after your phone crashes... dont just put the phone down and hope that it starts working again. They have the reset button on their for a reason!
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MooGoo said:
Wait...your phone froze while you were talking to the CEO of this company, and you couldn't call him back for TWO DAYS???
Ever hear of using another phone? Or a land line?
And I'm not sure what your problem with voice messages was. If you left them messages and they did not receive them, it's their voicemail systems fault, not WinMo's.
If WinMo did not notify you of voice messages that you had waiting, then simply call your voicemail number regardless of whether your phone says you have any or not. You could even call it from a different phone. Not doing so, especially when you are expecting important calls, is simply negligent. Every phone I have ever owned, long before I started to use WinMo, has failed to notify me of voice messages on numerous occasions.
This is as basic as keeping a backup copy of whatever important paper or project you are working on. It should be done with ALL phones, even the infallible iPhone.
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Aaron McCarthy said:
Totally agree with moogoo here. The voicemail issue isn't really a hardware issue as much as it is YOU not checking your voicemail or them having issues with there voicemail. Not calling the CEO back right away AFTER you reset your phone... I just couldnt imagine the phone freezing on me and not reseting it and calling the person back right away.
You havn't said whether you are running a stock rom or a custom rom on your phone. If it's stock and you are having these issues I would probably go to where you bought the phone and just have them give you a new one as I've never heard of people having that many issues with their phone. If its a custom rom, the only time I hear of people having the issues you are having is because after flashing their phone they didnt do a hard reset after the initial boot up to make sure everything installs properly. 9 times out of 10 if your phone freezes as much as it does you probably just need to do a hard reset.
Now, the comment about it locking up and what not... if it does it every few days, well guess what. It's a freaking computer! I don't know about you but I dont leave my PC or laptop running for days at a time and expect it to be running as fast as it should. I usually turn those off every night or when I'm not using them. Now we cant just go ahead and turn our phones off at night that doesnt make sense BUT you can at least do a soft reset every now and again and it should speed things up. I know myself I do this at least every 2 days. Again... if it's being as glitchy as it is odds are you just need a hard reset. Try running one of NRG's roms as they seem to be the best out there, at least from the ones I've tried.
So moral of your story.... you need to hard reset your phone once if not twice after you install a new rom..... you need to check your voicemail even when it doesnt show you have missed calls.... you need to call people back immediatly after your phone crashes... dont just put the phone down and hope that it starts working again. They have the reset button on their for a reason!
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Hey guys, sorry for the late response.
Well this is what happen. The CEO called me to talk to me about the job but at this very time my phone was frozen and hiccuping without my knowledge. When it does this it just rejects all my calls, but for some reason I never got the missed call or anything. It didn't even show up on screen. My phone randomly hiccups and when it does this everything is ignored, I won't get a missed call, it's like my phone is off. I didn't even get a voice mail message. When I checked my voicemail because one of my friends left me one after I ignored his call it finally gave me a message and it said I had 2 missed voicemails. I thought it was strange that he left 2 voice mails even though I only had his only miss call.. and then I realized he didn't leave 2 voice mails. I heard the voice of the CEO, he said for me to try and call him back. I checked the receipt and it was 2 days late! I called back right away.
I left him a voice mail back, but he left on a business trip and had to select someone else... which happen to be my classmate
And yes, it hiccups all the time. A large part of it is due to the amount of text I receive but not all the time. Under my GFs name we have about 1000s of text saved up and it causes the phone to lag sometimes.
Other lags and hiccups happen randomly when I'm trying to do simple things.
I know you guys are probably angry because I'm talking smack about our phones but please, I really wasn't expecting these kinds of problems with my phones. I'm not some kind of iPhone user disguised to troll.
Some of you guys don't' get the problem, yes you guys are lucky. Maybe have different models. But some of us here do.
Don't be quick to judge me so harshly. I'm only a guy here trying to set a realistic complaint because Windows Mobile should release updates more often, we deserve it, and you guys know we deserve it. By not complaining and pretending these problems don't exist gives Windows a right to not want to optimize their OS.
Thanks Lennzy for PMing me possible solutions to fixing my phone and not trying to give me some kind of life advice where you don't even know what happen.
The way the market is going right now, I just don't want to go through this again... it's such a bad experience... maybe it's fate, maybe I wasn't meant for the job and some other better company will call me. But for the time being I need to fix this phone or get a basic phone to just receive and give calls.
You got two new pm's
It's still prudent to check your voicemail at least once a day regardless of phone notifications. One good failsafe, if you can manage it, is to set things up so you automatically receive emails informing you of new voicemail (this is setup for me through Exchange at work, but I'm sure there are other ways).
As previously mentioned, the problems you are having are far from normal. I'm running a cooked ROM with all kinds of incredible hacks and tweaks, so much so that I'd expect the thing to break more often, but it is just as stable and usable as ever.
Not trying to give you life lessons, just pointing out one that you surely already learned.
Slim, are you in the US? If so, at least a temporary solution might be to use Google voice...it'll take over your voicemail functions, and can notify you via e-mail whenever you get a VM, and it'll even send you a transcript and a downloadable audio file of the message
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I don't know about you but I dont leave my PC or laptop running for days at a time and expect it to be running as fast as it should
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Try Linux - my home server's been up for 3 months without issue and my misses laptop's often on for weeks
Honestly ever since XP I've had no problem leaving my Windows box running for long periods of time.
Most often the only reason it needs to be reset is because of some update.
Linux is not infallible in this matter. While the core OS is extremely stable, very often the window manager, especially Gnome and KDE can be very buggy and prone to crashing.
Of course it is easy enough to drop out of Xwindows and restart it without restarting the entire OS.

[Q] Problems after upgrading to Gingerbread

Hey guys
I am really desperate and would do whatever it takes to sort out those issues or at least some of them!
My DHD was 2.2 and then the upgrade for 2.3 was available, the official one, so I downloaded it and upgraded my phone. It's not rooted, nor do I know what that is. Yes, I'm really that clueless when it comes to android devices. So anyway, after the upgrade, I encountered a problem where the phone cannot differentiate between two similar numbers and would receive phone calls and messages from both contacts as if they were from one person. The phone keeps asking me if I want to link the two numbers and I always say no, yet this didn't solve it. I tried deleting them and saving them again, but no luck! so I asked around and someone suggested that I format the device and and delete the names and save them again.
I did that and it just caused me more problems!! -_- The battery does not last longer than 9 hours with regular use and 12 hours with no use at all (when I'm sleeping), before the format it lasted for more than 21 hours with regular use and more than an entire day when I'm not using it that much. another problem is that now, the wifi signal is much worse than it used to be! You will ask, are there any applications running in the background? no there aren't! I changed the settings to the way it used to be before formatting the device.
Guys, if anyone can help me, it's going to be you!! Please help me This is really driving me crazy!!
and one last thing, I have a lot of numbers that are exactly the same except for one digit difference! more than 10 and those numbers are for people that I contact a lot, so you can see how this is such a pain in the butt!
I would really appreciate it if someone would give me a suggestion or a solution!! Thank you so much in advance!!

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