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i have upgraded to LVSW(2007/04/23) RUU_Hermes_WWE_3.30.0.1 and now work like hell

2 weeks ago i have upgraded to lvsw latest rom release and is the worst release (sorry for that m8).... manny apps doesn't work.... and even the last one before this was much better :|.... and any1 can help me how can i get back to the original orange rom... like when i buyed from the storage? thank u....

Hey, this is bull**** - can u specify which apps etc? I am using LVSW 20070423 from the first day of release and no problem...

This ROM is pretty damned good - so slow operation is probably something you've got installed.
To go back to your original orange ROM (PRESUMABLY wm5) you first need a copy of the original ROM, then follow Mrvanx's guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
maddogydog said:
2 weeks ago i have upgraded to lvsw latest rom release and is the worst release (sorry for that m8).... manny apps doesn't work.... and even the last one before this was much better :|.... and any1 can help me how can i get back to the original orange rom... like when i buyed from the storage? thank u....
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MaRaHoX said:
Hey, this is bull**** - can u specify which apps etc? I am using LVSW 20070423 from the first day of release and no problem...
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lol... i know is bull****... prob is when i m tryin to call ... i hear 2 sounds ... and that`s it ... and office give me this error "Program Not Recognised" .. anyway ... now i am with the previous of lvsw rom

Problem during a call I supposed in GSM part, which is indipendent on LVSW's ROM (maybe other causes - 3rd party app, bad A2DP mod etc.) - but primary try new RADIO ROM.
Office works me well - I just try it before a few secs (immediately after HR) and its ok?
I am using phone daily for hard work and no problems, you mentioned.
Some unstability was caused by wrong Page Pool, but I suppose, that it is not your case.

LVSW ROM is very good, I like it compared to others. Try installing a new radio and try a hard reset or reflash it.

Remember LVSW bundles the Radio along with his ROMs, could you please tell us your Radio version??

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Remember LVSW bundles the Radio along with his ROMs, could you please tell us your Radio version??
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@mrvanx, LVSW 20070423 is an OS-only distribution. He recommends that Hard-SPL-v7 and Radio 1.41.00.10 be installed beforehand (links provided). A deviation from his previous ROMs.
John

maddogydog said:
2 weeks ago i have upgraded to lvsw latest rom release and is the worst release (sorry for that m8).... manny apps doesn't work.... and even the last one before this was much better :|.... and any1 can help me how can i get back to the original orange rom... like when i buyed from the storage? thank u....
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What do you mean many apps doesn't work? All apps works on mine..IMO, LVSW's rom is the best. There must be something you didn't follow correctly or you installed some bull**** 3rd party apps. I am sorry if that offense you.

LSVW 423 is a great ROM - fast with all the bits I want and none of the bits I don't want, but I'm having issues with hanging on soft resets (about 10%) of the time as well as freezing and not able to resume from suspend. I have had these issues with most if not all the WM6 ROMs and can't figure it out.
Anyone else with similar issues?

Meanwhile orange have released a new WM5 AKU3.3 rom on their business site.

I've had no issues with LVSW 4/23 rom. I use the phone heavly during each day for the office and I never had experienced any issues. LVSV rom is the most stable in my opion. All apps are working as they should.
I only down graded my radio back to 1.40.30.00 cause of stability and the fact 1.41.xx.xx kept dropping my calls between 3G to Edge, not to mention weaker signal. Fact, 1.40.30.00 is I beleive the offical ATT radio release ATM (I might be wrong, something more official may be out).
Did you read the entire forum before flashing? As Johnburn mentioned, LVSW repackaged to OS only and given specific instructions to Hard-SPL-v7 and Radio before the OS only ROM due to issues on the his first post of the full package.

I think you're the only who has bad experience w/ LVSW release and you blamed it on the ROM. way to go.

khammo01 said:
LSVW 423 is a great ROM - fast with all the bits I want and none of the bits I don't want, but I'm having issues with hanging on soft resets (about 10%) of the time as well as freezing and not able to resume from suspend. I have had these issues with most if not all the WM6 ROMs and can't figure it out.
Anyone else with similar issues?
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yep exact same issue right here.
LOVE the roms, hate the fact that I keep freezing in suspend with all wm6 roms.
thought it was my phone till I flashed back to wm5, and its working perfectly again.

charbz said:
yep exact same issue right here.
LOVE the roms, hate the fact that I keep freezing in suspend with all wm6 roms.
thought it was my phone till I flashed back to wm5, and its working perfectly again.
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What do you have installed??? Also please note if installed programs are on the DEVICE or MEMORY CARD. What today items do you have??? And did you have cabs in the extended ROM??? All of these things will affect the device and could possibility cause it to lock up. Any whos I have no problems with WM6.

charbz said:
yep exact same issue right here.
LOVE the roms, hate the fact that I keep freezing in suspend with all wm6 roms.
thought it was my phone till I flashed back to wm5, and its working perfectly again.
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to fix the freezing go to:
start-> settings-> today-> items(tab)-> and set the today timeout to 12hr

stukes said:
What do you have installed??? Also please note if installed programs are on the DEVICE or MEMORY CARD. What today items do you have??? And did you have cabs in the extended ROM??? All of these things will affect the device and could possibility cause it to lock up. Any whos I have no problems with WM6.
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I always installed EVERYTHING on device memory. Nothing on storage card (even though it worked fine with Wm5 for anything other than Today apps).
I thought it was my applications so I went back to scratch. Even no apps installed and even with SD card removed, it fails to wake up from sleep if anything other than Exchange Activesync tried to use the radio while it was asleep.
Main culprits include IMAP mail sync and weather app syncing. You can verify this by setting sync interval to some ridiculously low value (every 5 minutes) and then watch a sitcom or something. It will be locked by the time it's over. (Hey, I just looked down and whaddya know, my phone is locked again).
There are some files laying around in extended ROM but They are not installed on hard reset. Are you saying they might be interfering nevertheless?
I hear rumors that LSVW 3/23 does not have this problem so I'm going to try that one last time. If I can't resolve it, I'm going back to WM5.

webpain said:
to fix the freezing go to:
start-> settings-> today-> items(tab)-> and set the today timeout to 12hr
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Hmm... seems an unlikely fix. Is this verified to work? What about just unchecking the Today timeout box altogether? I'll give it a try...
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I tried the Today timeout fix and it still locks up.

@khammo01
Good to see you have tried to isolate the problem. However you say that a fresh install also locks up. If this is true then the problem is deeper. Have you tried each Cooked ROM? I have and only by preference choose Black2.5. So far the only lock-up I have had came from a today plugin. WHich I should have put on the DEVICE instead of the CARD. At times the Active Sync appears to be sluggish but it is only right as it connects. Then all is well. Verify your download and try again.

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@khammo01
Good to see you have tried to isolate the problem. However you say that a fresh install also locks up. If this is true then the problem is deeper. Have you tried each Cooked ROM? I have and only by preference choose Black2.5. So far the only lock-up I have had came from a today plugin. WHich I should have put on the DEVICE instead of the CARD. At times the Active Sync appears to be sluggish but it is only right as it connects. Then all is well. Verify your download and try again.
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I have tried LSVW, Black 2.0, 2.5, Dutty, Custel, you name it. They all have the sleep error.
If I have IMAP or anything enabled that uses the radio when the device is asleep, I get lockups.
Basically I cannot enable anything useful. I'm going to try LSVW 3/23 (pretty much the only ROM I haven't tried) and if that doesn't work, I'm going back to WM5.

Black Shadow IV Problem

Hey guys,
First post on the forum, so I hope I don't offend/irritate with my dumbass questions,
I successfully flashed to the Black Shadow IV rom yesterday. I installed all th e helpful cab files to restore my settings to the orange standard and got the skdcert fix for the voicemail quirk. All seems (seemed) to be running smoothly but I then stumble upon a problem.
I have found that I am resetting the device more than I should due to the fact that whenever I try to make a call, 5 times out of 10 the phone just crashes, all the buttons freeze up and the touch screen doesn't respond. On the odd occassion the buttons freeze but the screen still responds butr there's no way to drop the call. It just wont have it.
I upgraded to the Black IV shadow rom, but did not upgrade the radio which was out of the box at version 1.38.00.01. Could this be the root of the problem? I am running SPL- 2.10 Olipro.
Any ideas guys, you're the experts, I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut.
Thanks in advance.
Gav

The 1.38 radio is pretty stable. However, if you are in the US, you might want to try upgrading it to the 1.40 radio which is AT&T optimized.

That ROM was released and is supported here: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-hermes/

Same happend to me too, I used Black Shadow IV for a week and now removed it, It is not stable.
My Jasjam hangs all the time and when conncting to PC.
Regards

Yeah, same. I used it for 3 days or so and crashed frequently. No additional programs installed either. BAD ROM

i've had nothing but a good experience with Shadow IV. ::shrug:: seems stable enough to me. it's never locked up on me and i've never had to reset except when i chose to to clear out the old memory once in a while.
as i mentioned in another thread, i have not installed any spb apps since they seem to have problems w/ WM6. i've had problems on a couple of different ROMs w/ the Spb apps.
could it be something that you've got installed and not the ROM itself? i had to do a little process of elimiation by installing basically one or two apps a day and seeing how it ran. things started going badly when the Spb apps were on there (Mobiel Shell, Time, Weather, Diary) so I haven't reinstalled them.
anyway, it could be something other than the ROM that is causing the instability.
regards,
mark

having multiple problems as well. cannot send text messages on cingular even after trying multiple fixes, frequent slowdowns, have had to soft reset at least once daily and also having problems with random lockups when charging. Going to reflash another rom.

having multiple problems as well. cannot send text messages on cingular even after trying multiple fixes, frequent slowdowns, have had to soft reset at least once daily and also having problems with random lockups when charging. Going to reflash another rom.

Am on Orange UK, and after running Black shadow for a while now I would rate it as the most stable ROM I have used. Admittedly I have only dabbled with some of the others, but have not felt the need to do more as am happy with what I have.
I did have an issue with SPB weather that others did not seem to have, but after romoving it, everything seems to be running fine. I soft reset every few days etc but I am happy with that.
Tis a bit strong to write BAD ROM with such certainty based on an individual experience, given that it works well for so many. Perhaps "This ROM did not work well for me" would be better.
Just a thought.

Sleuth255 said:
The 1.38 radio is pretty stable. However, if you are in the US, you might want to try upgrading it to the 1.40 radio which is AT&T optimized.
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May be it is the radio rom, I have now installed radio 1.38 then Black Shadow IV and will try it for a few days and see how it works.

Also crash
Also crash and then back to Black 3.5 rom is Stable!

Still the same even with Radio 1.38, Crash when connected to PC and deep sleep in standby.

Use to have same problems while running CE-Star. Virtually permanently freezing on making/receiving calls, sending SMS and simple operations with the device.
After manualy setting chinese character set (thanks to XDA-Devs WIKI ) the ROM is extremely stable. Even trying to "destroy" the system with multiple operations (calls, internet browsing, sync, installing new soft, etc.) do not freezes it - very stable.
Suspect in your case you are using software which makes some changes to the system, consequently destabilizes the ROM

marttin said:
Use to have same problems while running CE-Star. Virtually permanently freezing on making/receiving calls, sending SMS and simple operations with the device.
After manualy setting chinese character set (thanks to XDA-Devs WIKI ) the ROM is extremely stable. Even trying to "destroy" the system with multiple operations (calls, internet browsing, sync, installing new soft, etc.) do not freezes it - very stable.
Suspect in your case you are using software which makes some changes to the system, consequently destabilizes the ROM
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Hi,i am runing Black 3.0.1 and ce-star,like ou said freezing ,and my problem is when i use CE-STAR keyboard,it is Freezing too.where i can find the setting chinese charscter set?
thanks

Been running Black Shadow for 5 days, alongwith Radio 1.43, without any problem...

I've been running Black Shadow on T-mo US w/1.43 rom and I've had no problems.

I have been running Black Shadow since it was released and no problems so far.

chg1282002 said:
Hi,i am runing Black 3.0.1 and ce-star,like ou said freezing ,and my problem is when i use CE-STAR keyboard,it is Freezing too.where i can find the setting chinese charscter set?
thanks
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Use WIKI and SEARCH funstion
You can go first to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and click on Hermes. After that use SEARCH function with keyword "chinese". Should get the following page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweak_Language_Chinese
I am using for few days Black Shadow with 1.43 Radio, able to read Chinese Characters thanks to the described in WIKI method and no problems. Personaly I installed A4 input method as it serves me at best. I didn't change the registry manualy, but used the cab, it works perfect. Simply follow the instructions.
The only issue is that when serving internet with IE Chinese sites do not apear properly. Suppose it is needed additional fixing of the fonts in IE. Do not have time at present to explore the issue, but suppose to deal with it next week. In case you find a solution for IE please share the method on this thread-- Thanks
PS. Have tested Micrsoft Input -- simply do not works. Causes a lot of problems and destroys totaly the standard inputs

All,
I have been running this ROM for just under a week and the thing has been 100% solid - not a single problem.
I also agree with a previous statement in this thread, that to refer to the ROM as "BAD" based on a single attempt is somewhat unfair! Maybe it is this sort of thing that has forced some of the more senior Hermes developers away from this site and on to another location. Ever thought about it that way?
It is just my opinion, but we (all forum users) should do one of two things if we "chose" to use someone elses development. They are,
Acknowledge (privately or publically) the time and effort that has gone into producing something. The best way to do that is by constructive feedback even if the experience hasn't been as you expected
Say nothing if you can't make it constructive!
To place a one liner in a response with a "throw away" comment is about as useful to either the developer or the other forum users as.........well,..................no I won't go any further because it's not constructive
For the record - this version of the Black release has rectified a localised issue I was having with my WLAN that other version had not resolved.
If you chose to use it - great, join in. If not, equally great. Good luck with your chosen selection of ROM.
Rant end

marttin said:
Use WIKI and SEARCH funstion
You can go first to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and click on Hermes. After that use SEARCH function with keyword "chinese". Should get the following page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweak_Language_Chinese
I am using for few days Black Shadow with 1.43 Radio, able to read Chinese Characters thanks to the described in WIKI method and no problems. Personaly I installed A4 input method as it serves me at best. I didn't change the registry manualy, but used the cab, it works perfect. Simply follow the instructions.
The only issue is that when serving internet with IE Chinese sites do not apear properly. Suppose it is needed additional fixing of the fonts in IE. Do not have time at present to explore the issue, but suppose to deal with it next week. In case you find a solution for IE please share the method on this thread-- Thanks
PS. Have tested Micrsoft Input -- simply do not works. Causes a lot of problems and destroys totaly the standard inputs
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WM6 ROM without "no wake up from sleep" ?

HI Guys!
I want to know if is there any WM6 rom that don't have the 'no wake up from sleep' problem. I rely a lot on my TyTN and is annoying some times to try to turn it on and realize it's hang and i missed a lot of important calls.
I tested two WM6 roms, and they got lot of issues. One got the "lost SD" problem and now I'm using Faria Superclean 3. Very good rom, but sometimes it dont wake up right. (the fix out there dosn't help)

I haven't had a SOD incident since going to my latest ROM which is based on the "official" build (CE 5.2.1437 build 17944.0.3.1). While cooking this ROM, I took great pains to leave the production power management software intact (including the "older style" battery status cpanel plugin).
I'm guessing that M$ fixed this issue and that all ROMs directly derived from the official build that haven't had the power management software modified either won't experience SOD at all or will exhibit greatly reduced SOD frequencies.

Never had that problem on vp3G 3.0

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Never had that problem on vp3G 3.0
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Same here.

GldRush98 said:
Never had that problem on vp3G 3.0
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How much time do you tested it? I got weeks without this problem and suddenly it happens twice in a day

shagratt any luck? have you found a fix?

from my understanding the problem was if you had your pop mail setting to automatically check for new mail, and it did it while the hermes was sleeping, it wouldn't wake up. when i put my settings to manual i stopped having the problem. what we need is for someone to confirm with the official wm6 rom or att wm6 rom if this problem still exist. if it doesn't then i'll think about switching from black 3.0.1. to something newer.

No issue with Dopod official ROM
Haven't had any SOD since running the official Dopod WM 6.0 since about a month ago. My ActiveSync settings are "As items arrive" always.
I did have it on a number of xda-forum builds previously on the same hardware and same microSD card ... so the official WM 6.0 seems to have fixed it.

fb401 said:
from my understanding the problem was if you had your pop mail setting to automatically check for new mail, and it did it while the hermes was sleeping, it wouldn't wake up. when i put my settings to manual i stopped having the problem. what we need is for someone to confirm with the official wm6 rom or att wm6 rom if this problem still exist. if it doesn't then i'll think about switching from black 3.0.1. to something newer.
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I dont use mail on the hermes
But my Weather home plugin perhaps is trying to update its data. Now I'm testing the settings to update it manually. (no hangs since I write this post)
What's annoy me is that I can be months without this and then it begin to happens frequently : o /

Since moving to the Dopod and official HTC rom I've had zero SOD's. I was getting them every hour at one point on black and on LSVW.
Neil.

SOD issues
Strangely enough, I didnt start experiencing SOD issues UNTIL I switched to the newer roms based on the "official" WM6 Rom...I had it with VP3G and eventually loaded Satin and the problems continued. Most of my problems seemed to be centered around shortcuts I had on my today screen for programs loaded on my sd card. After "waking" and trying to run some of the shortcuts it would take several tries or it would cause lockups or SODs. Boz pointed me to the following patch which has seemed to fix all the sd card shortcuts problems as well as the SODs I was experiencing. The only thing that seems to still cause SODs for me is if I am trying to download a large file directly to the sd card via the internet and the phone goes into standby it will still cause the SOD. But realistically I wouldnt be downloading large files like that very often, and if I have to I can just connect my usb charger or ac charger to make sure it doesnt go into standby.
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/local_links.php?action=jump&id=16&catid=6

I use 3g's WM6 and never had the SOD until I installed a podcast collector (smart-rss). Then, every morning when I woke up I had to play the game to get the phone working. Finally found it was easier to just hard reset and reload from the nightly backup that seems to still work. About a week ago I uninstalled SmartRSS and it hasn't had the SOD since. Certinly seems like the common thread here is for the phone to be doing data transferes while it is asleep.

Had a SOD once with Schaps 3.57a and it turned out that it was a
corrupted cemail.vol file which caused the trouble. After SR it started
first fine and than hung everytime when accessed the Messagin file
cemail.vol. After I created a new one on storage card and pointed
to it in registry and SR, deleted the old corrupted one the problem
did never occur since today. Puuuhhh...
I am absolutely sure that all SODs come from any corrupted databases
or incompatible programs which cause wakeup issues. The trick is to
find out what application is the culprit
Olioaglio

New XDA Zest firmware

There's a new Zest firmware available for download from http://www.my-xda.com/. The filename is Xda_Zest Firmware Update_V7.7.0S.WWE20.00_M4.6.5.P7_V2.1.4 GBR20, which seems to be updates to most of the roms inside the zest. It's installing at the moment, and the upgrade interface on the phone is displaying "GalaxyMini5 Eboot (3.33.0). Since this appears to be a codename for the P565, I guess this is more evidence that the XDA Zest is simply an underclocked P565 and more evidence that P565 firmware may well work on it.

Warning, this firmware does not appear to contain the O2 menu software, or the free GPS software that comes with the phone (although maybe the latter can be re-installed from the SD card). Shame - I rather liked the O2 menu interface.

what improvements does it have? Is it actually worth upgrading?
Thanks.

The only things I can see that I don't remember seeing before are a couple of new or updated control panel entries. Video calling is probably the really important one.
You seem to lose the RSS reader, the O2 auto settings, the O2 menu and the GPS s/w (although the latter was only a demo). I have no idea if using the SD card that came with the Zest will restore these, as I don't have it. (If the software is all on there somewhere, and someone could bung me a copy, I'd be really grateful.)
It does make me wonder how the P565 firmware compares. I understand it has a nice touch interface on it.

It seems odd that the new firmware would remove all the o2 specific bits. Great if you want to use it on another network I suppose, but I quite like the mobile shell or o2 menu.
The satnav software isn't on the sd card - only the maps.
The instructions say:
Please note that if you already have CoPilot satellite navigation software on your Xda, refer to the Xda Zest user manual before upgrading your device software.
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I couldn't see anything of significance in the user manual.

Interesting. I actually have Tomtom for GPS on a different SD card, which is related to the reason I don't have the original SD card. Tomtom autoinstalls from the SD card, so I thought it might be that the O2 software installed itself from the SD card provided by O2. I guess that if it's only maps on the SD card then that's not the case, and the new firmware does strip out all the O2 extras, which seems like a peculiar decision to say the least.
Still, it did get me to try the new SPB mobile shell 3, which is what the O2 menu is based on, but nicer. I'm trying to decide whether it's worth the $35 for just a flashy finger driven interface. The weird thing is, it actually might be.

I'm actually going to upgrade my firmware to new one which is currently available in O2 site. What I want to know is if upgrade mine to the latest what would be the changes I may seen... Is it worth upgrading by loosing all the software?

So far I've seen nothing to write home about. The only reason might be if you can't already make video calls and want to do so. (I never make them, so I have no idea whether or not they're supported in the original firmware.)

I just upgraded mine to new firm ware. It worked fine for me. I didn't lose any O2 extras inc O2 menu. It was Oki but haven't tried yet to make video calls.. I will install iGO8 and will uninstall the co-pilot.
SPB Mobile shell 3.0 Rocks working smoothly with my Omnia and Xda Zest

I've just updated, and I didn't lose any O2 extras either (including Copilot). I backed up the Program Files\Copilot folder on the device to my PC before updating, and copied it back over after the update and voila, I've still got my fully activated version of Copilot. It did still prompt for allowing it to connect to the net during the 14-day trial the first time I ran it, but the license screen confirms it's the full version.
aDe

I have a working theory that the autorun on my Tomtom SD card might have run in preference to some autorun that might otherwise have run the first time the OS booted. I could test this by re-installing the firmware, but it's kind of a pain to have to put all the data on again.
Having played around some more and browsed the Extended ROM on my device, this does appear to be what happened, as all the CAB files are present. Fortunately this is a bonus for me, since I'm not on O2, and most of these files are useless to me, and I can therefore just pick and choose the apps I'd like to install.
This might be useful to other Zest users - the hack to make the Extended ROM visible:
Use your favourite Registry Editor to make HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\ONDisk2\FATFS\MountHidden set to 0 (default is 1)
You can then browse to \ASUS_ROM\ in Total Commander to view your Extended ROM partition. The ROM does not appear to be write protected, so you can now put all the packages *you* want re-installed on a hard reset in there. Neat.

I contacted O2 support about this issue, and they replied saying that:
On occasions the O2 menu can drop off after a ROM upgrade, but this would usually be resolve by either hard resetting or running the upgrade again. The o2 menu is still installed on the new ROM.
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I have now done this upgrade and have retained the 02 menu. The radio reception seems a bit better as I now get HSDPA at home, which I didn't previously, so the radio upgrade seems to be worth it.

ringer
ive got the zest and am happy with it so far apart from the last 2 days i cannot hear it when i get a call everything else works ie.system sounds,core player etc but the actual phone wont ring it just vibrates ive reset it a million times and checked system settings etc but nothing so if anyone has any ideas i would be very grateful, also how do you know if you are getting hdspa or not is there a setting for it or something, cheers guys.

The connectivity icon at the top right of the screen shows what communication protocol is being used by showing a symbol (usually just a single letter) in a solid square. The letters I have seen so far are:
G - GPRS (2G)
E - EDGE
3G - 3G (this is the odd one out with the two letters squashed together)
H - HSDPA
It's worth mentioning that on my train ride home I see all four protocols at different points, and the hand-off between them is very smooth.

thanks for quick reply i will keep an eye on it, still no joy with my ringer though its very strange. never had a problem like it on my orbit. i will keep investigating ,also do you know if anyone will be coming up with a rom for zest as i miss manila 2d although mobile shell v3 is good.

Have you checked:
Start->Settings->Sounds & Notifications
On the Notifications tab you can select the "Ring type", one possible choice of which is "Vibrate", which will make the phone only vibrate on incoming calls. Just guessing.

yes ive tried all that it might be affected by software ive installed recently i will try unistalling them one by one and see if that helps, failing that il do a hard reset i guess, anyone know how to hard reset the zest? thanks for your help.

There is a contortional key sequence for this, but you can also reset it by going to:
Start->Settings->System Tab->Default Settings

cheers managed to sort it , i installed mini lyrics software and ticked all in associating files which for some reason stopped the phone from ringing
thanks for your help.

Failure of firmware upgrade
Ive just had a power failure whilst upgrading the firmware on my new xda Zest and all it it shows when turning on is "OS Update failed! Please update again". Is there anything i can about this or will it need to be returned to O2. Any suggestions. thanx

Love the ROMS, but please help with this HARD-reset problem?

Hi guys -
Loving all the ROMS available here, breathed new life into my p3600i, i've tried maybe 10 different ROMs in the past days.
Too many, but only because everytime i settle on one, it dies on me. i install all the apps i want on it, use it for 24hours or so, then out of nowhere, phone sort of freezes (not responding), i get impatient, memory leak maybe, then do a soft-reset via the stylus.
What happens next is it reboots, and restarts as if i've just flahsed the ROM (i.e. a hard-reset)!!! Can anybody tell me why this keeps happening no matter which ROM i use?
very frustrating, please advise...
I'm really looking to settle on one and use for at least a few weeks/months!
Thanks in advance!

gunnerxl said:
Hi guys -
Loving all the ROMS available here, breathed new life into my p3600i, i've tried maybe 10 different ROMs in the past days.
Too many, but only because everytime i settle on one, it dies on me. i install all the apps i want on it, use it for 24hours or so, then out of nowhere, phone sort of freezes (not responding), i get impatient, memory leak maybe, then do a soft-reset via the stylus.
What happens next is it reboots, and restarts as if i've just flahsed the ROM (i.e. a hard-reset)!!! Can anybody tell me why this keeps happening no matter which ROM i use?
very frustrating, please advise...
I'm really looking to settle on one and use for at least a few weeks/months!
Thanks in advance!
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Try running a Rom WITHOUT installing your apps and see if you still have the problem. If not, then add one program at a time until you discover which program is causing the problem.

Thanks for the reply, it's happened to me again, t his time whilst syncying with my exchange server it hung after about 5mins downloading (usually takes no more than 3 mins - I know cause it's the 10th time i've had to do it). Essentially these are the list of CABS i install:
1) SPB Pocket Plus
2) SPB Keyboard
3) SPB Back-up (only recently so i don't have to re-install apps)
4) PocketMusic
5) TomTom (off SD Card)
I've nailed it down to times where i'm running a memory intensive app (TOMTOM or Syncing using Outlook) where I use the stylus and do a soft-reset as screen has frozen up.
After that boom it's as if i did a hard-reset and have to configure/re-install from scratch!
I'm confused/frustrated!

argh it's happened again! this time i was not even doing anything special!
Could it have anything to do with: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399779
> WARNING BEFORE FLASHING:
While most people have not had any problems, a small but consistent number have reported lockups with various ROMs, requiring either soft or hard resets, depending on the conflicting program.
Have backups of your data, and be prepared that something you install might break the ROM you have installed.
UPDATE: It seems like lockups are possible even with (practically) nothing installed - while they do seem to be less likely the less you install, apparently there does not seem to be any P3600i immune to this issue, whether full of programs or not. Note that the newer ROMs seem to be more stable
As much as I loved playing with the cooked ROMS, how do i go back to original HTC provided ROM?

i've not been able to download the official HTC ROM after putting in my phone's S/N. possibly because there were no p3600i ROMS listed so i had to go for a d810.
anyway, i'm now trying a WM6.0 ROM, will see how i go. for those that have been around long, was this ever an issue, i.e. p3600i users trying cooked WM6.1 ROMS with stability/hard-reset issues?

Unfortunately, I am using a standard P3600, so I cannot verify your issue. I just know how to diagnose simple things. I know that on my phone, added software is usually the issue.
I can verify TomTom runs fine on my phone, but I don't use the other 4. I do run SPB Mobile shell 2 and 3, and SPB Weather, without any problems.
Hopefully, somebody else can shed some light on this?
Good Luck gunnerxl

I can confirm the same issues, I have not found ONE cooked ROM that will let my p3600i last more than a month without a freeze of some type that requires a hard reset.
Search the forums for my posts on this, been here for ages trying every single ROM, all fail on my PDA.
I'm of the opinion that my PDA is actually faulty in the onboard RAM, because there are some seriously fine ROMs here and it would be close to impossible that all the ROMs end with the same fault.
All the ROM cookers here do a fantastic job, put in a great effort and I thank them.
Even the stock ROM for my PDA has failed me.
I have learned to use back ups and make sure I have all my contacts stored on 2 computers etc, to recover from a hard reset is no real issue to me, just an annoying glitch until I upgrade to the next PDA.
I have not been able to find a program that will functionally test the onboard RAM like what is available for an PC.
IMHO - if you can afford it, UPGRADE away from the p3600i, but this is CLEARLY a biased opinion.

try schaps WM6.0 ROM, been using for past 2 days without any hard-resets... it's possibly that our version of the p3600i's HAVE to use WM6.0, all the WM6.1/5 ROMS crashed out on me, i'll test with intensive usage for the next couple days and report back... hopefully no issues, any other WM6.0 ROMS available? I used the official list at top of this forum section...

gunnerxl said:
try schaps WM6.0 ROM, been using for past 2 days without any hard-resets... it's possibly that our version of the p3600i's HAVE to use WM6.0, all the WM6.1/5 ROMS crashed out on me, i'll test with intensive usage for the next couple days and report back... hopefully no issues, any other WM6.0 ROMS available? I used the official list at top of this forum section...
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I have tried Schaps, have tried them ALL as I previously stated.
All the ROMs available are the ones listed, there are no others that are known to WORK that have been supplied to THIS forum.

You won't get a custom ROM from here above WM6 for the P3600i that is stable. This is because HTC only supports up to WM6 on them. Why does this matter? A core component of any ROM you flash is the kernel for the phone. This is customised by HTC for the OS. I don't think any ROM 'cook' from here can provide real stability because the kernel doesn't support WM6 or above. For real stability someone has to modify the kernel file itself in the ROM.
So there are no stable 6.1's or 6.5's here. Me, stability is paramount, I'll stick with the official WM6 ROM.
The D810 official download of WM6 is the same one as for the P3600i. Indeed, you can only get it if you say your phone is a D810 on the Asia site.