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Flashing a cooked rom - further tips

As a number of you are having problems flashing cooked roms I put up this sticky.
1. If you presently run a factory wm5\wm6 rom then uspl cid unlock (step 1 in my roms) your rom before you flash cooked rom.
2. If you have a cooked rom on your device already and are changing to another cooked rom (especially if rom is from a different cook) i would recommend you:
a) flash back to factory rom first
b) then cid unlock
c) then flash the new cooked rom.
This is because sometimes the new cooked rom does not function 100% on first flash and a repeat flash is required.
3.Alternatively (especially if you dont have access to the factory rom) flash the new cooked rom twice to be sure new rom has taken properly and if device is already cid unlocked there is no need to cid unlock again.

Thanks for your hard work
Yes flashing twice works!!!

Thanks
Thanks Meschle

No Navigation application included in ROMs
Maybe this is also interestening for newbies;
there is no TomTom or iGo in the ROMs included (this is a often asked question)
but you can download TomTom from their website for free (you only have to pay for the maps)
After installing TomTom - just insert your TomTom CD and install your maps from there.

meschle said:
As a number of you are having problems flashing cooked roms I put up this sticky.
1. If you presently run a factory wm5\wm6 rom then uspl cid unlock (step 1 in my roms) your rom before you flash cooked rom.
2. If you have a cooked rom on your device already and are changing to another cooked rom (especially if rom is from a different cook) i would recommend you:
a) flash back to factory rom first
b) then cid unlock
c) then flash the new cooked rom.
This is because sometimes the new cooked rom does not function 100% on first flash and a repeat flash is required.
3.Alternatively (especially if you dont have access to the factory rom) flash the new cooked rom twice to be sure new rom has taken properly and if device is already cid unlocked there is no need to cid unlock again.
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Hi guys, I'd like to try one of your cooked roms but unless I tried to gather infos from the forum I still have some doubts....
First of all... the cid unlock procedure is needed only for the devices that are operator branded right? I mean if I have a normal HTC no brand I don't need to do this step... is this correct?
And last but not least.. how can I flash back to the factory rom??? Is the procedure the same? I tried to find my original rom but I couldn't... Does anyone can help me in finding it? (I've got the italian rom installed).
Thanks to everybody...
Ciao
Shift.

Before you start to cook your own rom...
May I add that's also very important to have been through the whole process (at least one time) of recooking an original rom without adding/removing anything ?!
That's the price we need to pay in order to achieve successfull rom cooking !

difficulties to flash artemis
i have M650 (orange) wih WM4. it was unloacked by orange.
i'm not able to flash it.
i have the error 270 fconnect lost or file corruoted
how can i solve my issue?
meschle said:
As a number of you are having problems flashing cooked roms I put up this sticky.
1. If you presently run a factory wm5\wm6 rom then uspl cid unlock (step 1 in my roms) your rom before you flash cooked rom.
2. If you have a cooked rom on your device already and are changing to another cooked rom (especially if rom is from a different cook) i would recommend you:
a) flash back to factory rom first
b) then cid unlock
c) then flash the new cooked rom.
This is because sometimes the new cooked rom does not function 100% on first flash and a repeat flash is required.
3.Alternatively (especially if you dont have access to the factory rom) flash the new cooked rom twice to be sure new rom has taken properly and if device is already cid unlocked there is no need to cid unlock again.
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unsuccess cooking flash
it is my first flashing.
i feel to have follow-up all step
connect usb cable, and go head
but it seems not working.
kulbut0r said:
May I add that's also very important to have been through the whole process (at least one time) of recooking an original rom without adding/removing anything ?!
That's the price we need to pay in order to achieve successfull rom cooking !
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i succed to do it.
even if the m650 was unlock by the provider it is needed to do it with uspl.
tnx
Marcos Paolo said:
it is my first flashing.
i feel to have follow-up all step
connect usb cable, and go head
but it seems not working.
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So if i whant to go from B&B4.3 Englisch version to the Dutch version, must i cid unlock my device again ? Or can i just flash from Englisch to Dutch ?

NP9660 said:
So if i whant to go from B&B4.3 Englisch version to the Dutch version, must i cid unlock my device again ? Or can i just flash from Englisch to Dutch ?
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only flash the new one.

Just like to add that sometimes the ROM file renames itself to an N file even if you rename it back to a NBH file so watch for that before flashing cooked ROMs

using the ROM Update utility, how do I get it to choses the correct rom file. Cooked one with extended rom how do I get tit to choose this file?

XDA-BOJ said:
using the ROM Update utility, how do I get it to choses the correct rom file. Cooked one with extended rom how do I get tit to choose this file?
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DONT CROSS POST - ESP IN A MODERATORS THREAD

Sorry... Ill take that as a slapped wrist... should had read the rules , but I am a bloke !!!!....

XDA-BOJ said:
Sorry... Ill take that as a slapped wrist... should had read the rules , but I am a bloke !!!!....
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No problem - we are all blokes here - probably none of them read the instructions.

prank1 said:
Just like to add that sometimes the ROM file renames itself to an N file even if you rename it back to a NBH file so watch for that before flashing cooked ROMs
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Thanks for the tip you saved me from lot of frustration.

tray to flash the rom without sd inserted

shift_runstop said:
Hi guys, I'd like to try one of your cooked roms but unless I tried to gather infos from the forum I still have some doubts....
First of all... the cid unlock procedure is needed only for the devices that are operator branded right? I mean if I have a normal HTC no brand I don't need to do this step... is this correct?
And last but not least.. how can I flash back to the factory rom??? Is the procedure the same? I tried to find my original rom but I couldn't... Does anyone can help me in finding it? (I've got the italian rom installed).
Thanks to everybody...
Ciao
Shift.
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The above questions asked are really important for the ppl flashing their ROMs for the 1st time. I want to add some more questions
- How to put the original ROM back on the device.. (could not find the steps for the same)
- CID unlock. If i put the original ROM back on the device, will it automatically take care of the CID which was unlocked before (to flash the cooked ROMs)?
- Is there any way we can see CID info on the mobile?

arinjayw said:
The above questions asked are really important for the ppl flashing their ROMs for the 1st time. I want to add some more questions
- How to put the original ROM back on the device.. (could not find the steps for the same)
- CID unlock. If i put the original ROM back on the device, will it automatically take care of the CID which was unlocked before (to flash the cooked ROMs)?
- Is there any way we can see CID info on the mobile?
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to put the original ROM just get it and flash it when needed
and when flashing it it don't need CID unlock or anything and it will bring back your device to original SPL, IPL, Radio and ofcourse the OS
cheers

How to EXACTLY undo a wm6 upgrade?

Hi Everybody
My hermes is the following:
Vodafone 1605 ITA WM5
ROM: 2.07.165.1 (02/13/07)
Radio: 1.32.00.00
I don't know If I'm going to tryu the wm6 update, but, before even thinking about it, I want to make sure that I can restore it back to what it was in the beginning, in case anything goes wrong...
How can I save my Rom, radio and everything OR where can I find my exact rom and all the necessary stuff to revert it back?
I noticed a guide for wm5 downgrade, but that wolud probably only bring back wm5 in some form, and not MY wm5 and everything that comes with it...
I hope you understood what I mean
Is that even possible?
Thanks in advance

Happily, it's easy mate.
Download your original rom from the archive so you've got it to reinstall from. (Check your current versions of rom, radio, etc. to make sure it's the right one.)
When you want to downgrade, just plug in your phone and run the downloaded exe. It'll take LOADS longer for the 'old' rom to install than your upgrade to wm6 did. This is mainly because the 'old' (original) rom you download will install spl, ext rom, os, plash 1 + 2 and radio all at once.
Thats the easy way.
You could extract just the bits of the original you need to save time, but there are instructions in threads, wiki and downloads for that so I won't repeat it all here. It's Dutty's Good NBH Tool you'll be using (start your search with that if you want to go down that road).

Thanks for the quick reply
By "archive" do you mean this?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
So I guess my rom should be this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298541
It also matches my ROM and Radio version.
There's just one thing I don't understand... I looked at the WM6 guides on mrvanx.org, which show many many steps. Are you saying that I could just grab the latest original HTC exe update and launch it and it would update everything? And still only launch another exe to revert to the old stuff?
Then why do people take the risk and flash all the components separately? Just to use homemade roms?
Thanks

No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.

http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
all your questions answered here!

chunkymonkey said:
No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.
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Ok that wes pretty clear
Let me just see if I got it right.
To go WM6:
- Upgrade CID to an unlocked version
- Either
1. Use HTC official exe upgrade, which updates ROM, ExtROM and Radio
or
2. Update Radio first and then ROM+ExtROM with a custom version
To revert to Vodafone WM5:
It's not assured that my radio can be safely downgraded (http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27), so:
- Use Dutty's tool to extract my Vodafone ROM+ExtROM (no Radio) from the exe
- Downgrade SPL (not mandatory)
- Flash Vodafone ROM+ExtROM
Kinda?...

Yep, kinda!
But if you're planning to upgrade to WM6 with the correct VODAFONE release for your device you do not need to CID unlock your device and all that crap!
Sorry, I am not trying to confuse you!
Here an example:
Lets say you have an HTC Hermes from Vodafone UK with WM5 on there!
If Vodafone UK provides you an WM6 upgrade on their site (or if you find it in the 'archive' here in the Wiki then you do not have to CID unlock but you can run the upgrade without doing anything more than downloading the ROM and running it.
After you upgraded with the Vodafone UK WM6 you can 'downgrade' again with the Vodafone UK WM5 without any problems - even here a CID unlock is not necessary! Both ROMs contain the same CID code because of they are from the same provider.
A CID unlock is only necessary if you are planning to flash your device with ROMs which are not from your network provider, as example you want to flash a Hermes ROM from O2 UK to your Vodafone UK device. O2 UK is a different network provider and has a different CID code. Therefore your phone would refuse the upgrade and give you an error message WRONG VENDER ID!
CID unlock will trick your phone and it just does not care anymore about the VENDER ID (CID code) submitted by the ROM you're trying to flash!
The best way for you to play around with that stuff for a while might be to use SOFT_SSPL.exe to temporarely 'CID unlock' your phone. If you think that you really need it permanently CID unlocked because of you're going to flash it a lot then download the Hermes_Unlocker_3a which will do the job for you!
Please keep in mind that you will lose all data in your device when flashing!

Thanks again, and no, you are not confusing me
In fact, the only reason why I skipped that solution is because there's no official WM6 upgrade from Vodafone IT
Actually I like that SOFT_SSPL.exe thingy... Does it mean that my CID is unlocked just for the time of flashing or what?
And... it seems that you talk about CID and SPL like if they were the same thing... what's the difference?
Thx

Yes.
You will have to copy the soft.sspl.exe to your pda and run it from there. Just have your stuff ready for flashing before doing so.
The soft_sspl.exe is not writing anything to your ppc permanently. After flashing it is gone.
Please read the UPGRADING FOR BEGINNERS section in the Wiki carefully, even about bootloaders and all that crap before starting to flash!
TAKEN FROM THE HERMES WIKTIONARY in the Wiki section:
CID
The CID (Carrier ID) of the device is a setting which determines which carrier ROMs should be allowed to run on the device, a table of valid CIDs can be found in the wiki pages. All bootloaders (apart from HardSPL and SSPL) will only allow a ROM with the correct CID to be flashed onto the device. A device which has been CID unlocked will have 'SuperCID' which allows ANY ROM to be loaded onto the device, SuperCID also unlocks the Ext_ROM and allows it to be mounted.
SPL
See Bootloader.
SSPL
SSPL is a modified bootloader (by Des) which is loaded into RAM when run, this allows us to overwrite any aspect of the ROM, Radio or Bootloader far easier than using mtty. See the official thread for more info.

Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)

chunkymonkey said:
Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)
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Thanks for this really helpful advice!
I'll try to do some research on this option before doing anything, just to make sure that I know all the options before taking a definite road...
I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.

If all radio functions seem good and reliable you could leave the radio upgrade.
On a 'new radio version' thread try to find any references from a user from your own country, region within that country and provider as regards any radio versions. each new one is simply the most recent that a provider somewhere has brought out. the latest version number by no means that any given phone on X provider in X region of X country will be improved. It could easily be worsened.
Another way to do it, and very long-winded, is to flash the latest radio and, if dissatisfied, go backward thorugh the versions till you get it performing satisfactorily.
If you're happy wwith your radio performance don't change it tbh. Just my opinion on that, some people may differ.

Gatz said:
... I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.
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HardSPL will be permanently written (hard-coded) to your phone! This can be a problem if you have to mail in your phone for service! You would lose your warranty!
SSPL is just temporary for the moment. It executes from the RAM until the flash job is finished. Afterwards it is gone!
BTW: I made some experiments on my 8525:
It was not very difficult to 'undo' HardSPL! I simply took my original shipped ROM image file (nbh) and flashed it entirely with CustomRUU - afterwards HardSPL was gone.
If I ever get a new device I will use SSPL only. All you have to do, is, to copy it to your SD card and run it when you want to flash your device. That makes it only 1 more step compared to having your phone HardSPLed ...

Mmm, considering both your answers, I might go for SSPL, at least for the first time.
I thought that the official HTC update contained also a new radio version, so there should be no difference between carriers... that's a point that confuses me a bit.
I mean, are there HTC radios as opposed to Vodafone radios and so on?

Newbie with 1 big question

Dear All,
first of all....HELLO! I've just registered myself on the forum.
Yesterday I bought the HTC P3600 (Trinity, I think), english version (I suppose it's called wwe). I want to install a cooked ITALIAN ROM, but I read I'm losing the guarantee if I'll do it.
Somebody tell me there is a software that can allow me to re-install the original ROM and avoid the guarantee losing.
Is this right? can someone give me more info?
Thanks in advance for your reply and sorry for my english
Best regards

You can always go back to an original HTC rom, as long as you don't brick your device.
In order to prevent that, you should install a Hard-SPL (board search, iirc its a sticky) which is a replacement bootloader that allows flashing any Rom after bricking.
Have fun playing around with your new P3600.

ZakMcRofl said:
You can always go back to an original HTC rom, as long as you don't brick your device.
In order to prevent that, you should install a Hard-SPL (board search, iirc its a sticky) which is a replacement bootloader that allows flashing any Rom after bricking.
Have fun playing around with your new P3600.
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So if I install first the Hard-SPL I can install a COOKED ITALIAN ROM and after I can go back the original HTC ROM and I'll not lose my guarantee???
If I brick, how can I de-brick the HTC?
Thanks for the quickly reply
Best regards

You should try reading the WIKI and also check www.trinityguides.info

Helloo there.
Your phone is probably cid locked, that means, that u can install only original htc rom-wm5. wm6 doesnt exist for htc trinity.
If u have cid unlocked, u can flash any rom with the RUU (rom update utility) , which is in the package with the rom.
Otherwise i prefer for my cid locked trinity that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
U loose warranty if u send the broken pda on service with the custom rom installed on it. So, before u send it, flash the original rom over and it will be ok.
The problem could be, if the lcd goes bad, than its hard to reinstall the original rom. i know u understand.

badguy999 said:
Helloo there.
Your phone is probably cid locked, that means, that u can install only original htc rom-wm5. wm6 doesnt exist for htc trinity.
If u have cid unlocked, u can flash any rom with the RUU (rom update utility) , which is in the package with the rom.
Otherwise i prefer for my cid locked trinity that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
U loose warranty if u send the broken pda on service with the custom rom installed on it. So, before u send it, flash the original rom over and it will be ok.
The problem could be, if the lcd goes bad, than its hard to reinstall the original rom. i know u understand.
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Thanks for your answer. I installed the SPL-1.20 and I updated my Radio version (1.46.00.11------is it good?). Now I can install every unofficial ROM and in any case I can go back (how?).
Is it right?
Best regards

Please Really Need Help for Flashig / Upgrading

Hi!
I am totally new to HTC Diamond. I got my set from England (Orange). It was locked. I was able to unlock it with the free solution available. Ok. Now the problem is I heard about TouchFLO but it I can't seem to activate. What can be the reason and what can I do?
Second, mine says it has :
ROM Version: 1.37.405.1 WWE
Radio Version: 1.20.OliNex
IS it ok. Or can I get a new more better version. Whats with radio version? Please guide me what can I do? I right now have no idea. I tried the tutorials as well but I am confused.

thats not the radio version, thats the SPL (Service Provider Lock).
and its a Hard SPL, which i presume you flashed to 'unlock' it.
the Hard SPL lets you flash a different ROM (but voids your warranty) it doesnt SIM unlock it tho.
TF3D (Touch Flo 3D) should run automatically when the phone is started, if it doesnt, go to Start> Settings> Personal tab> Today> Items tab and make sure "TouchFLO 3D" is checked.

Old ROM
thornofcarrion said:
Hi!
I am totally new to HTC Diamond. I got my set from England (Orange). It was locked. I was able to unlock it with the free solution available. Ok. Now the problem is I heard about TouchFLO but it I can't seem to activate. What can be the reason and what can I do?
Second, mine says it has :
ROM Version: 1.37.405.1 WWE
Radio Version: 1.20.OliNex
IS it ok. Or can I get a new more better version. Whats with radio version? Please guide me what can I do? I right now have no idea. I tried the tutorials as well but I am confused.
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The ROM version you're showing here is really old (as ROM's go!). You can get a link to the latest Orange ROM (v1.93) here, or flash one of the superb cooked ROM's in this forum

grahamkdt said:
The ROM version you're showing here is really old (as ROM's go!). You can get a link to the latest Orange ROM (v1.93) here, or flash one of the superb cooked ROM's in this forum
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Thanks a lot. But flashing with v1.93 will not do anything bad with the set. I once tried to upgrade my Imate jamin and it went dead and was not repaired. So I am a little hesitant you know.

you have already voided your warranty by flashing a Hard SPL. i would suggest flashing it back to the original, then flashing the latest Orange ROM (its not supposed to be too bad).

mugglesquop said:
you have already voided your warranty by flashing a Hard SPL. i would suggest flashing it back to the original, then flashing the latest Orange ROM (its not supposed to be too bad).
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Thanks a lot. Could you please further tell me how to flash it.

read the tutorial in the stickie.
lots of reading

Thansk. Just tell me which is the latest and best version that I should use?

did u even look at the other threads? ....
4 threads down from yours:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457980

Ok ok man. i got it myself without looking them thanks. But now I have this problem that messages are not being sent. i tried soft reset and hard reset but no avail. What could be the reason for that? B
By the way I upgraded it with 1.93 flash given above in this thread.

Try the new 2.00 ROM.
You can also try one of the smaller lite ones
(Swtos, Panosha), each time followed by a HARD reset (backup your Internal Storage data first).
If THAT doesn't work, you might have an SMS configuration/operator issue.
A.

messages not sent
make sure you have set the phone to your service provider....in connections

Does any one konw rolling back your diamond to original OS?

hi guys,
same as title,
may I ask how to rolling back diamond custom rom into HTC original rom? just for warranty reasons.
after referring someone's thread, I found that first I should re-cook a standard rom into my diamond, then flash the proper radio, and finally recover SPL before sending it to HTC.
now I know how to flash radio/SPL back, then how about rom?
sorry for my poor English, once again, my point is, back up my current rom(with factory default settings), then flash a custom rom to replace this current rom, and re-flash that factory default setting rom back when diamond get some hardware problems which means need to be send to HTC service in the future.

First flash the original ROM (like any cooked ROM),
then the radio, and the origi SPL.
It's simple as that.