Hi Everybody
My hermes is the following:
Vodafone 1605 ITA WM5
ROM: 2.07.165.1 (02/13/07)
Radio: 1.32.00.00
I don't know If I'm going to tryu the wm6 update, but, before even thinking about it, I want to make sure that I can restore it back to what it was in the beginning, in case anything goes wrong...
How can I save my Rom, radio and everything OR where can I find my exact rom and all the necessary stuff to revert it back?
I noticed a guide for wm5 downgrade, but that wolud probably only bring back wm5 in some form, and not MY wm5 and everything that comes with it...
I hope you understood what I mean
Is that even possible?
Thanks in advance
Happily, it's easy mate.
Download your original rom from the archive so you've got it to reinstall from. (Check your current versions of rom, radio, etc. to make sure it's the right one.)
When you want to downgrade, just plug in your phone and run the downloaded exe. It'll take LOADS longer for the 'old' rom to install than your upgrade to wm6 did. This is mainly because the 'old' (original) rom you download will install spl, ext rom, os, plash 1 + 2 and radio all at once.
Thats the easy way.
You could extract just the bits of the original you need to save time, but there are instructions in threads, wiki and downloads for that so I won't repeat it all here. It's Dutty's Good NBH Tool you'll be using (start your search with that if you want to go down that road).
Thanks for the quick reply
By "archive" do you mean this?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
So I guess my rom should be this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298541
It also matches my ROM and Radio version.
There's just one thing I don't understand... I looked at the WM6 guides on mrvanx.org, which show many many steps. Are you saying that I could just grab the latest original HTC exe update and launch it and it would update everything? And still only launch another exe to revert to the old stuff?
Then why do people take the risk and flash all the components separately? Just to use homemade roms?
Thanks
No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
all your questions answered here!
chunkymonkey said:
No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.
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Ok that wes pretty clear
Let me just see if I got it right.
To go WM6:
- Upgrade CID to an unlocked version
- Either
1. Use HTC official exe upgrade, which updates ROM, ExtROM and Radio
or
2. Update Radio first and then ROM+ExtROM with a custom version
To revert to Vodafone WM5:
It's not assured that my radio can be safely downgraded (http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27), so:
- Use Dutty's tool to extract my Vodafone ROM+ExtROM (no Radio) from the exe
- Downgrade SPL (not mandatory)
- Flash Vodafone ROM+ExtROM
Kinda?...
Yep, kinda!
But if you're planning to upgrade to WM6 with the correct VODAFONE release for your device you do not need to CID unlock your device and all that crap!
Sorry, I am not trying to confuse you!
Here an example:
Lets say you have an HTC Hermes from Vodafone UK with WM5 on there!
If Vodafone UK provides you an WM6 upgrade on their site (or if you find it in the 'archive' here in the Wiki then you do not have to CID unlock but you can run the upgrade without doing anything more than downloading the ROM and running it.
After you upgraded with the Vodafone UK WM6 you can 'downgrade' again with the Vodafone UK WM5 without any problems - even here a CID unlock is not necessary! Both ROMs contain the same CID code because of they are from the same provider.
A CID unlock is only necessary if you are planning to flash your device with ROMs which are not from your network provider, as example you want to flash a Hermes ROM from O2 UK to your Vodafone UK device. O2 UK is a different network provider and has a different CID code. Therefore your phone would refuse the upgrade and give you an error message WRONG VENDER ID!
CID unlock will trick your phone and it just does not care anymore about the VENDER ID (CID code) submitted by the ROM you're trying to flash!
The best way for you to play around with that stuff for a while might be to use SOFT_SSPL.exe to temporarely 'CID unlock' your phone. If you think that you really need it permanently CID unlocked because of you're going to flash it a lot then download the Hermes_Unlocker_3a which will do the job for you!
Please keep in mind that you will lose all data in your device when flashing!
Thanks again, and no, you are not confusing me
In fact, the only reason why I skipped that solution is because there's no official WM6 upgrade from Vodafone IT
Actually I like that SOFT_SSPL.exe thingy... Does it mean that my CID is unlocked just for the time of flashing or what?
And... it seems that you talk about CID and SPL like if they were the same thing... what's the difference?
Thx
Yes.
You will have to copy the soft.sspl.exe to your pda and run it from there. Just have your stuff ready for flashing before doing so.
The soft_sspl.exe is not writing anything to your ppc permanently. After flashing it is gone.
Please read the UPGRADING FOR BEGINNERS section in the Wiki carefully, even about bootloaders and all that crap before starting to flash!
TAKEN FROM THE HERMES WIKTIONARY in the Wiki section:
CID
The CID (Carrier ID) of the device is a setting which determines which carrier ROMs should be allowed to run on the device, a table of valid CIDs can be found in the wiki pages. All bootloaders (apart from HardSPL and SSPL) will only allow a ROM with the correct CID to be flashed onto the device. A device which has been CID unlocked will have 'SuperCID' which allows ANY ROM to be loaded onto the device, SuperCID also unlocks the Ext_ROM and allows it to be mounted.
SPL
See Bootloader.
SSPL
SSPL is a modified bootloader (by Des) which is loaded into RAM when run, this allows us to overwrite any aspect of the ROM, Radio or Bootloader far easier than using mtty. See the official thread for more info.
Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)
chunkymonkey said:
Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)
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Thanks for this really helpful advice!
I'll try to do some research on this option before doing anything, just to make sure that I know all the options before taking a definite road...
I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.
If all radio functions seem good and reliable you could leave the radio upgrade.
On a 'new radio version' thread try to find any references from a user from your own country, region within that country and provider as regards any radio versions. each new one is simply the most recent that a provider somewhere has brought out. the latest version number by no means that any given phone on X provider in X region of X country will be improved. It could easily be worsened.
Another way to do it, and very long-winded, is to flash the latest radio and, if dissatisfied, go backward thorugh the versions till you get it performing satisfactorily.
If you're happy wwith your radio performance don't change it tbh. Just my opinion on that, some people may differ.
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... I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.
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HardSPL will be permanently written (hard-coded) to your phone! This can be a problem if you have to mail in your phone for service! You would lose your warranty!
SSPL is just temporary for the moment. It executes from the RAM until the flash job is finished. Afterwards it is gone!
BTW: I made some experiments on my 8525:
It was not very difficult to 'undo' HardSPL! I simply took my original shipped ROM image file (nbh) and flashed it entirely with CustomRUU - afterwards HardSPL was gone.
If I ever get a new device I will use SSPL only. All you have to do, is, to copy it to your SD card and run it when you want to flash your device. That makes it only 1 more step compared to having your phone HardSPLed ...
Mmm, considering both your answers, I might go for SSPL, at least for the first time.
I thought that the official HTC update contained also a new radio version, so there should be no difference between carriers... that's a point that confuses me a bit.
I mean, are there HTC radios as opposed to Vodafone radios and so on?
Related
A quick (probably simple) question. I have a CID unlocked Orbit, thanks to imei-check. Does this mean I don't need to use the USPL software now to flash handset or must I still do this first?
Thank you for your time.
Shand359 said:
A quick (probably simple) question. I have a CID unlocked Orbit, thanks to imei-check. Does this mean I don't need to use the USPL software now to flash handset or must I still do this first?
Thank you for your time.
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If you want update Rom NBH format still need Run USPL again..!
Although it may seem redundant, I would run the USPL before loading any of the roms found on this board as a fail safe. I also have an unlock file from IMEI check and I only use that to load non-modified OEM roms like HTC/O2/Dopod etc. Also remember that you have to run the IMEI check or the USPL EVERY time you change roms. Unlocking once will only serve to load a single rom. So save the unlock utility and the IMEI code file they gave you in a file for quick access if you plan on playing the experimentation game. Also, look through the posts there was a thread on how to unbrick your IMEI-unlocked phone no matter what by doing a trick and a HEX edit involving the software you use to CID unlock your phone.
imei-check vs. USPL
there is following difference with imei-check and uspl:
imei-check recalculates and modifies cid area on your device, uspl doesn't.
with uspl, cid area and model id are ignored and not checked.
this enables to perform upgrade of any rom.
rom has to be properly signed though, if you do nbh upgrade with regular upgrade utility.
if you use pdocwrite method, then it is wise to have uspl installed before you write to doc (same for nbh upgrade. always have uspl installed first). otherwise in case of faulty upgrade it will be quite difficult to recover the device.
keep in mind, with next full rom upgrade (say factory rom upgrade, spl will be overwritten). this means you need to run uspl again, before performing upgrade.
regards.
fdp24 said:
there is following difference with imei-check and uspl:
imei-check recalculates and modifies cid area on your device, uspl doesn't.
with uspl, cid area and model id are ignored and not checked.
this enables to perform upgrade of any rom.
regards.
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@fdp24,
nice to see you alive and kickin`!
Say, does this mean I could flash the wm6 rom from the hermes (see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305940 )
into my uspl unlocked hero ?
tried it with the implemented installer without success!
greetz
Please answer me this then. Just to see if I have it right.
I have my Orbit unlocked by imei-check. I now have Bepe's WM6 installed and running great with absolutely no problems what-so-ever. Since I have unlocked my phone and flashed a new ROM onto it, do I now need to re-unlock my phone if I intend to change the ROM in the future? (Does flashing Bepe's ROM reset the CID-lock?)
imei-check does permanent cid unlock. you don't need to re-unlock device again.
- some roms will not install on device, because they have different model id.
- uspl is a solution for this. with uspl installed, model id is not checked.
- if you use pdocwrite method, then you are writing directly to doc, and don't have to bother with cid and model id. however, if something will go wrong with this method, it could be not very easy to recover cid locked device. optimal in this case to have device with uspl installed, because you will not be dependent on cid and model id.
- wm6. most of cooked roms represents just an os. during upgrade, ipl and spl parts remains intact during upgrade. wich means with uspl installed, after os upgrade you don't need to install uspl again. spl version is 1.11.0000 when uspl is installed on device.
- regular factory upgrade. all parts are upgraded (ipl, spl, gsm, splash, os). uspl will be overwritten. for future upgrades you need to install uspl again.
regards,
I'm confused, and this is probably an easy-answer question:
So I've got an 8535, SIM unlocked, using it with T-Mobile. If I want to put, say, Black Satin on it, do I need to make it SuperCID too?
If not ....... why make it SuperCID?
It's always a good idea to first refer to the WIKI; most all of your answers will be found there. Yours is a basic question that has been answered many times.
Honestly I didn't see it in the Wiki .......
Yeah, I just searched the wiki's again and couldn't find anything, and couldn't find anything doing a Google search too. Everything just says you need SuperCID to flash "another carrier's" ROMs onto the phone -- does Black Majik count as "another carrier"?
And then there's sites like trinityguides.com that say things like this: "you will not need to Super-CID your device in order to upgrade with these instructions. The RUU will push SSPL on to your device which will bypass CID check, and Hard-SPL will do the same things for you as a CID unlock, without actually unlocking it." This site reads different in the wiki.
If it is in the wiki, then what page is it on because I seriously cannot find it!
- On OLD devices using NBF format for rom upgrades, you where able to flash ANY rom to your device if you had it SuperCID.
- On NEW devices using NBH format for rom upgrades, the NBH format is SIGNED, which means the device's bootloader won't accept the ROM if it is not signed with the proper HTC certificate. If your device is SuperCID you'll be able to flash ANY carrier's ROM which are SIGNED with the proper certificate, but you won't be able to flash cooked ROMs (not signed with the HTC cert). For this you need a patched bootloader, such as SSPL, HardSPL or USPL, which will allow you to bypass signature checking EVEN if the device is not really SuperCID.
Hope it's clear now, feel free to add it to the wiki yourself
Aha! Fantastic! Thank you pof! (I'll add it later, methinks -- work now).
So what is the point of using another carrier's ROM? Just having their ROM on there? From what I've been reading, it looks like the cooked ROMs are definitely the way to go -- better apps, better performance, much sleeker styling.
Imagine somoene buys a Orange device, sim-unlocks it and uses it with a Vodafone SIM card. If he's not an average user, he probably just wants to put a Vodafone rom on the device to not need to setup data connection, mms settings, and have all the operator customizations integrated in the rom. This person is fine with just a CID-unlock, does not need to flash unsigned code (which generally has more risk than flashing a 'official' rom). But of course, the bast majority of us are not happy "only" with this
Thank you for the replies pof ... not all people are around to help, but you are. Thank you.
Hi,
Does HTC release their own updated ROMs for the Diamond???
If so where can I find them and how do I update the device (does HTC have instructions on the web)??? Also what is the latest ROM version (I think I have 1.37.0 WWE), my phone came from Hong Kong...
Thanks,
NW
NightWolf88 said:
Hi,
Does HTC release their own updated ROMs for the Diamond???
If so where can I find them and how do I update the device (does HTC have instructions on the web)??? Also what is the latest ROM version (I think I have 1.37.0 WWE), my phone came from Hong Kong...
Thanks,
NW
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Try reading the rules here before posting!
Also, get familiar to using forum search and also google search.
oh no...
not someone who and use the search button
i have tried the search function!
i cannot find a concrete answer as to if htc has actually got a download page with the roms or if we need to use the rom 1.93... and this hard spl program...
fyi when searching i found many ppl asking the same qus as me yet there was no answer other than a few wasteful people saynting use the search function... if u do know the answer dont be Arrogant and say use search - the onlynthing u are doing is wasting ppls time and increasing ur post count. i asked for some help if u dont have anything useful to add dont post...
thanks
www.htc.com - E-club
It's in your phone manual as well.
Riel said:
www.htc.com - E-club
It's in your phone manual as well.
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HTC e-club doesn't have roms for diamond - not on Hong Kong where I login anyway.
Thanks for the reply Riel/Tim, I have been to that page and enter in my SN and register but when I go to my device nothing comes up... I cannot see the Diamond listed under software downloads either..? I log into world wide...
Thanks for the reply, I have been to that page and enter in my SN and register but when I go to my device nothing comes up as well... SO I'd say HTC havent release any ROM device updates... SO how do you guys get the exe for the diamond v1.93???
Also to install the 1.93 ROM posted by Tom do I need to install HardSPL on my phone..? Because it looks like that package will work with no need to install any SPL, its just an exe that runs through a wizard... What way/how does the HardSPL versions here prevent me from bricking the phone? How do I find the SPL version that is currently on my phone and can I revert back to the original SPL/remove hard CID so I dont void warranty..?
Tim what ROM are you using on your Diamond and how did you install it???
Also does the ROM posted by Tom have the Radio ROM (I think its 1.00.25.5 inc in the package guessing by the file name?) let me use Quad band network?
HTC does release the updates, but not on their site. Only to their resellers I believe.
Yes, it is essential to install hard SPL on your phone for any ROM you want to try. I am using walshieau's Elite 3.0 ROM 9 (which is very quick). This is what I did to install it:
1) Flash hard SPL signed version (which will hard reset your phone, so backup using PIM backup from pocketpcfreewares.com)
2) Flash the ROM of your choice
After this I decided to update the Radio to version .05
In order to do this I needed to first flash with UNsigned hard SPL, then flash the radio using CustomRUU. Now I have support for Telstra's NextG 850Mhz.
NightWolf88: check your PM and you can contact me by phone and I may be able to explain in more detail.
Thanks very much for the help Tim!!! Thanks to all the other people doing great work on these forums!!
Ok so from what I have read so far ( I posted this in the 1.93 ROM thread as well - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2416200&posted=1#post2416200) I just need some of my noobish questions answered, dont want to ruin my lovely Diamond :
From what I have read:
1. Backup device - Is there any way I can backup the ROM which is currently on my device (1.37.00.0 WWE)???
2. Upgrade to HardSPL signed as this is a signed ROM- download this file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400402 extract, run the .exe file... Follow the RomUpdateUtility.exe (RUU) wizard - SPL will flash and then with any luck get a message saying complete - job is done.
What does "1. do not try to use this SSPL to flash anything else other than an SPL file. it explicitly blocks other flashes anyway. SSPL is *never* a good way to flash OS images" mean... So can I not use this to update the device OS ROM to 1.93. in this thread??? I assume SSPL = Signed Second Program Loader..?
Do I need to use this unsigned version..? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950 - It has overwrite protection..?
Finally - use volume down & soft reset to see that SPL/bootloader has installed/flashed correctly... Then to SAFELY get out of the bootloader softreset again...?
3. Upgrade the OS ROM using the .exe file in post 1 of this thread...
So I download the exe connect my device via active sync then follow the rest of the steps in the RUU.exe wizard, it will give me a progress bar on both the PC and the Diamond, the Diamond will then softreset with the new rom all installed..?
Questions:
Can someone please confirm the above method is correct to install the ROM on this page?
Does the Radio also update itself to 1.00.25.05 when running the exe in the post #1??? I.e. will I get quad band radio support???
Do I need the signed or unsigned SPL what is the best to use???
How do I dump the ROM that is currently on my device to PC/whats the best program? Do I need to do this for warranty etc or if I dont like the new ROM..?
To restore to original SPL I go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2324829&postcount=39 grab my stock SPL and then use the unsigned SPL RUU exe? What is SSPL-manual used for???
Also in the post by cmonex (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2324829&postcount=39) he says "if you have signed hardspl, just go ahead and flash with normal RUU process (no overwrite protection in that one, as it is already only accepting htchackers signed files, there was no need for that)."
What is the normal RUU process???
If I use the signed SPL I can just use the RUU.exe that comes with that and copy the stock SPL to replace the .nbh file in the signed Hard-SPL folder and everything should run fine? No need to worry with the unsigned Hard-SPL version right?
As stupid as it may sound I still don’t get all this SPL/SSPL/Hard-SPL stuff, what is on the phone originally? and what changes with hard-spl download packages??? I assume SPL is a boot loader like BIOS on the “PC” or EFI on Intel-Apple Macs..? What is the difference between the stock SPL/bootloader on the phone and signed/unsigned hard-SPL that some of the guys here have made?
Thanks once again ,
NW
NightWolf88 said:
Thanks for the reply Riel/Tim, I have been to that page and enter in my SN and register but when I go to my device nothing comes up... I cannot see the Diamond listed under software downloads either..? I log into world wide...
Thanks for the reply, I have been to that page and enter in my SN and register but when I go to my device nothing comes up as well... SO I'd say HTC haven't release any ROM device updates... SO how do you guys get the exe for the diamond v1.93???
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Same problem here!
Yes, I did use the search function but didn't find what I was looking for.
That being said, I have registered my Diamond on e-Club. (It's a French Orange one, so I used a hack I found on another forum to correctly register by changing "HT825" to "HT826" in the SN.) However, I don't see anything for the diamond available for download under "Phone Software Updates" and "Other Downloads."
So my question is: does HTC offer certain downloads only to certain SN?
The answer might have been already posted somewhere; if so please redirect me (and NightWolf88) to the correct thread if you know it!
Thanks
PS: NightWolf88, check out www.modmydiamond.info if you haven't already: it's a fantastic tutorial that will most likely answer most of your questions regarding the fine art of ROM flashing and restoring.
Yeah I have checked that page, great site.
From what I have read there are no HTC e-club updates for the Diamond yet, only updates going to resellers... I also emailed HTC Tech support - I got this reply:
Thank you for choosing hTC. Please note that there's no new rom for HTC Touch Diamond at the moment. We recommend you to visit our hTC HK website for the latest information as below
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I wish that HTC would pull there finger out and release an official ROM.
After putting an Official Rom update on the e-club site but then taking it down pretty quickly, it seems strange they haven't released one yet.
Im holding out for an Official Rom, but I think i will just give in and flash a cooked rom in the end.
Gonna try flashing the Radio first as I havent got an issue with the Rom itself, just with the signal behaving very erratically!
Will see.
Great site tho xda devs and also the modmydiamond one to, some invaluable info on both of them.
Thanks everyone on here.
On my SN and registration I definatedly got provided with a new rom.
It is 1.37 in my case, in Dutch.
See attachment of screenshot of the Site:
Riel said:
On my SN and registration I definatedly got provided with a new rom.
It is 1.37 in my case, in Dutch.
See attachment of screenshot of the Site:
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Yeah it seems that only device SNs that shipped with <1.37 have an update, there is no offical release of 1.93 which is (from what I have read) better than 1.37, but 1.37 was alot better than the 34s and 35s if you do a search around the net alot of reviewers got sent these ROMs which fixed initial lag issues...
I want to put 1.93 on my device, wanted offical htc release but I'm just going to use the one posted here...
Any one hjelp me with the ROM update???
NightWolf88 said:
Thanks very much for the help Tim!!! Thanks to all the other people doing great work on these forums!!
Ok so from what I have read so far ( I posted this in the 1.93 ROM thread as well - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2416200&posted=1#post2416200) I just need some of my noobish questions answered, dont want to ruin my lovely Diamond :
From what I have read:
1. Backup device - Is there any way I can backup the ROM which is currently on my device (1.37.00.0 WWE)???
2. Upgrade to HardSPL signed as this is a signed ROM- download this file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400402 extract, run the .exe file... Follow the RomUpdateUtility.exe (RUU) wizard - SPL will flash and then with any luck get a message saying complete - job is done.
What does "1. do not try to use this SSPL to flash anything else other than an SPL file. it explicitly blocks other flashes anyway. SSPL is *never* a good way to flash OS images" mean... So can I not use this to update the device OS ROM to 1.93. in this thread??? I assume SSPL = Signed Second Program Loader..?
Do I need to use this unsigned version..? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950 - It has overwrite protection..?
Finally - use volume down & soft reset to see that SPL/bootloader has installed/flashed correctly... Then to SAFELY get out of the bootloader softreset again...?
3. Upgrade the OS ROM using the .exe file in post 1 of this thread...
So I download the exe connect my device via active sync then follow the rest of the steps in the RUU.exe wizard, it will give me a progress bar on both the PC and the Diamond, the Diamond will then softreset with the new rom all installed..?
Questions:
Can someone please confirm the above method is correct to install the ROM on this page?
Does the Radio also update itself to 1.00.25.05 when running the exe in the post #1??? I.e. will I get quad band radio support???
Do I need the signed or unsigned SPL what is the best to use???
How do I dump the ROM that is currently on my device to PC/whats the best program? Do I need to do this for warranty etc or if I dont like the new ROM..?
To restore to original SPL I go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2324829&postcount=39 grab my stock SPL and then use the unsigned SPL RUU exe? What is SSPL-manual used for???
Also in the post by cmonex (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2324829&postcount=39) he says "if you have signed hardspl, just go ahead and flash with normal RUU process (no overwrite protection in that one, as it is already only accepting htchackers signed files, there was no need for that)."
What is the normal RUU process???
If I use the signed SPL I can just use the RUU.exe that comes with that and copy the stock SPL to replace the .nbh file in the signed Hard-SPL folder and everything should run fine? No need to worry with the unsigned Hard-SPL version right?
As stupid as it may sound I still don’t get all this SPL/SSPL/Hard-SPL stuff, what is on the phone originally? and what changes with hard-spl download packages??? I assume SPL is a boot loader like BIOS on the “PC” or EFI on Intel-Apple Macs..? What is the difference between the stock SPL/bootloader on the phone and signed/unsigned hard-SPL that some of the guys here have made?
Thanks once again ,
NW
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Hi guys wondered if somebody could help me I hanve an orange HTC touch diamond on rom version 1.37 and wamt to upgrade to 1.93 but when I try it tells me that i cant upgrade does this mean I have to unlock the phone or do I have to update the hard spl first before been able to update the rom to 1.93
You have to hard spl then you can update to any of the roms here. Try using the search feature, I know it is your first post, we have all been there
hi thanks have searched about on forum thats how found about hard spl but wasnt sure which one to use didnt want to brick my phone
http://www.planete-htc.com/index.php?mod=forum&ac=voir&cat=169&id=15903
Where did you find the 1.93 Orange ROM ? Or is it not the Orange one ? I've been looking for it in vain on french Orange's website... It is not even possible to register my own diamond phone (which is not listed in the possible owned phone even if it is in the catalog, as a matter of fact).
You can use any ROM, doesn't have to be an Orange one.
I only received my Diamond last week and found all the info I need to start flashing in this forum.
First you need to flash a new SPL, don't ask me what it means. A guide I read said there was a Soft and HardSPL. As you can guess the SoftSPL runs in the OS and umm the HardSPL runs in the bootloader !?
Without going in to too much detail as I'm not 100% sure myself, the HardSPL is how the hardware communicates with the OS, I guess much like the BIOS on a PC. And certain HardSPL's will only allow you to flash signed ROMs as a safeguard.
If you want to flash a new ROM, Radio or Splash/Boot screen then unless it's for your region and signed you'll first need to install an unsigned HardSPL. The most popular one seems to be the 1.40 SPL by Olinex. If you're not sure about what you're doing then install a signed HardSPL for now. This will only allow you to use the signed custom ROMs but at least you won't flash the wrong ROM to your device. Once you have a HardSPL flashed to you're device you can start flashing the different ROMs available.
It's impossible to recommed a ROM because everyone wants something different. I prefer to use lite ROMs with most of the default apps removed and no customs apps added. Things to make a note of are which orginal HTC ROM it is based on, which apps have been updated, which apps have been removed and what extra apps and tweaks are included.
Some ROMs also include Radios and Splash screens but the majority don't. Again decide on which radio and screen you want and flash in the same way as the ROM.
How to flash?
Most ROMs include the DiamondCustomRUU.exe app (a single file). Put this file into an empty folder. Extract the ROM, Radio or screen file and look for the file with an extension of .nbh. Copy only the .nbh file in to the folder where you copied DiamondCustomRUU.
Connect the Diamond to your PC via the USB cable. Make sure there is over 50% battery etc. Run DiamondCustomRUU.exe.
Make sure there is only one .nbh file in the folder or the RUU app won't know which one to use. You don't need to tell the RUU app what type of .nhb file it is either.
The modmydiamond site has most of the Q&A in one place about flashing ROMS on your handset.
Hi,
I have recently purchased a HTC Touch Diamond. I purchased it from Orange UK on contract
My current ROM version is: 1.37.405.1 WWE
Ive tried downloading the ROM from HTC website it says device not supported
Can somebody tell me how to update to latest 1.93 ROM. Anyone here that has bought the phone from Orange UK
PLZ HELP!!
You need to install hardspl in order to install any other ROM than the carrier's stock ROM.
I have a Diamond on Orange UK contract which came with the same ROM.
You need to install HardSPL before flashing any ROM other than an Official Orange UK ROM. I tried the official HTC ROM however I much prefer Dutty's ROM as it yielded better performance. I currently use Dutty's 1.5 and will probably flash 1.7 when it is released this weekend.
How about teh offical 1.93 ROM will I be able to flash that
Can you give me the exact method you used also the hard spl version etc signed or unsigned
As far as I am aware Orange UK haven't released an updated Orange branded ROM yet for the diamond, so the only way to flash a new ROM, whether official HTC 1.93 or other 'cooked' rom based on the official rom is to flash HardSPL 1.4 first (unsigned). If you are not comfortable doing that (there are plenty of threads on the subject), then you will have to wait until Orange UK launch their version of an official HTC rom, probably complete with Orange branded TouchFlo 3D - yuck!.
I used the information in the WIKI useful which contains a link to the following site which gives step by step instructions -
http://www.modmydiamond.info/
You can download the latest European ROM from
http://rapidshare.com/files/1376163...igned_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe
Is this really the case, only way to flash is via hardspl?
I only ask because I have flashed mine twice now with official roms just by extracting the file and running it - worked both times without problems.
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Trixster101 said:
Is this really the case, only way to flash is via hardspl?
I only ask because I have flashed mine twice now with official roms just by extracting the file and running it - worked both times without problems.
Tad confuddled...
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Yes, it is. But is not a hard thing to do. Use Hardspl 1.40 (unsigned) and then flash the rom you want
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Is this really the case, only way to flash is via hardspl?
I only ask because I have flashed mine twice now with official roms just by extracting the file and running it - worked both times without problems.
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Yes, it is. But is not a hard thing to do. Use Hardspl 1.40 (unsigned) and then flash the rom you want
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No, you do not always need HardSPL, this depending if your device is CID Locked or unlocked.
Carrier Id or CID - commonly used in the form `CID-Unlocking`. If you purchase your phone (example) from Orange UK (Orange is the 'carrier'), your phone will only accept Orange ROMs or official ROMs (the carrier's ROMs or HTC). If you want to flash ROMs from other carrier, you'll need to CID-unlock your phone, so that your phone will accept other ROMs. This is where HardSPL comes in to play.
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No, you do not always need HardSPL, this depending if your device is CID Locked or unlocked.
Carrier Id or CID - commonly used in the form `CID-Unlocking`. If you purchase your phone (example) from Orange UK (Orange is the 'carrier'), your phone will only accept Orange ROMs or official ROMs (the carrier's ROMs or HTC). If you want to flash ROMs from other carrier, you'll need to CID-unlock your phone, so that your phone will accept other ROMs. This is where HardSPL comes in to play.
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Gotcha.. Mine is SIM-Free so that will explain why it can flash without hard-spl then, at least the official roms as I've not tried another yet.
Will give it a try. Will contact orange first or go to their repair centres.
I have noticed the device does get hot with original orange stock rom.
I would recommend if admin makes this thread a sticky will help alot of people out
Newbie question and probably an obvious answer. I have installed HardSPL and upgraded my Radio with no problems. I am a wee bit nervous about a full rom upgrade. What will happen to my orange settings (voicemail etc) and if i were to restore my info and programs using spb backup will that restore everything
Windoze9t8 said:
No, you do not always need HardSPL, this depending if your device is CID Locked or unlocked.
Carrier Id or CID - commonly used in the form `CID-Unlocking`. If you purchase your phone (example) from Orange UK (Orange is the 'carrier'), your phone will only accept Orange ROMs or official ROMs (the carrier's ROMs or HTC). If you want to flash ROMs from other carrier, you'll need to CID-unlock your phone, so that your phone will accept other ROMs. This is where HardSPL comes in to play.
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@Windoze9t8
So just to confirm, IF I was able to get the official HTC WWE ROM from their website i.e. "RUU_Diamond_HTC_Europe_1.93.401.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05", are you saying that CID Locked Orange UK HTC Diamonds would still be able to update using this *without* having to do the HardSPL update first?
Alternatively.. IF the HardSPL is required.. would I need the HardSPL 1.40 (unsigned) as mentioned above.. or should I be looking to use HardSPL 1.38 Signed as the Official Rom has "signed" in the filename?
Sorry for (possibly repeated) questions - I just want to be sure, and no one has replied as concisely as you before
Ok.. please ignore my previous post.
My Orange UK Touch Diamond would not update with that latest HTC Rom without installing HardSPL 1.93 Unsigned.
I couldn't find 1.40 unsigned anywhere, and the ROM *wouldn't* update with any other version (1.37unsigned, 1.38 signed or 1.24mfg)
Using DiamondCustomRUU that came with 1.37, I copied the 1.93 HardSPL into its folder (this updated the SPL via a hard reset), and then used the RUU that came with the Official Update.