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Hi Everybody
My hermes is the following:
Vodafone 1605 ITA WM5
ROM: 2.07.165.1 (02/13/07)
Radio: 1.32.00.00
I don't know If I'm going to tryu the wm6 update, but, before even thinking about it, I want to make sure that I can restore it back to what it was in the beginning, in case anything goes wrong...
How can I save my Rom, radio and everything OR where can I find my exact rom and all the necessary stuff to revert it back?
I noticed a guide for wm5 downgrade, but that wolud probably only bring back wm5 in some form, and not MY wm5 and everything that comes with it...
I hope you understood what I mean
Is that even possible?
Thanks in advance
Happily, it's easy mate.
Download your original rom from the archive so you've got it to reinstall from. (Check your current versions of rom, radio, etc. to make sure it's the right one.)
When you want to downgrade, just plug in your phone and run the downloaded exe. It'll take LOADS longer for the 'old' rom to install than your upgrade to wm6 did. This is mainly because the 'old' (original) rom you download will install spl, ext rom, os, plash 1 + 2 and radio all at once.
Thats the easy way.
You could extract just the bits of the original you need to save time, but there are instructions in threads, wiki and downloads for that so I won't repeat it all here. It's Dutty's Good NBH Tool you'll be using (start your search with that if you want to go down that road).
Thanks for the quick reply
By "archive" do you mean this?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
So I guess my rom should be this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298541
It also matches my ROM and Radio version.
There's just one thing I don't understand... I looked at the WM6 guides on mrvanx.org, which show many many steps. Are you saying that I could just grab the latest original HTC exe update and launch it and it would update everything? And still only launch another exe to revert to the old stuff?
Then why do people take the risk and flash all the components separately? Just to use homemade roms?
Thanks
No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
all your questions answered here!
chunkymonkey said:
No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.
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Ok that wes pretty clear
Let me just see if I got it right.
To go WM6:
- Upgrade CID to an unlocked version
- Either
1. Use HTC official exe upgrade, which updates ROM, ExtROM and Radio
or
2. Update Radio first and then ROM+ExtROM with a custom version
To revert to Vodafone WM5:
It's not assured that my radio can be safely downgraded (http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27), so:
- Use Dutty's tool to extract my Vodafone ROM+ExtROM (no Radio) from the exe
- Downgrade SPL (not mandatory)
- Flash Vodafone ROM+ExtROM
Kinda?...
Yep, kinda!
But if you're planning to upgrade to WM6 with the correct VODAFONE release for your device you do not need to CID unlock your device and all that crap!
Sorry, I am not trying to confuse you!
Here an example:
Lets say you have an HTC Hermes from Vodafone UK with WM5 on there!
If Vodafone UK provides you an WM6 upgrade on their site (or if you find it in the 'archive' here in the Wiki then you do not have to CID unlock but you can run the upgrade without doing anything more than downloading the ROM and running it.
After you upgraded with the Vodafone UK WM6 you can 'downgrade' again with the Vodafone UK WM5 without any problems - even here a CID unlock is not necessary! Both ROMs contain the same CID code because of they are from the same provider.
A CID unlock is only necessary if you are planning to flash your device with ROMs which are not from your network provider, as example you want to flash a Hermes ROM from O2 UK to your Vodafone UK device. O2 UK is a different network provider and has a different CID code. Therefore your phone would refuse the upgrade and give you an error message WRONG VENDER ID!
CID unlock will trick your phone and it just does not care anymore about the VENDER ID (CID code) submitted by the ROM you're trying to flash!
The best way for you to play around with that stuff for a while might be to use SOFT_SSPL.exe to temporarely 'CID unlock' your phone. If you think that you really need it permanently CID unlocked because of you're going to flash it a lot then download the Hermes_Unlocker_3a which will do the job for you!
Please keep in mind that you will lose all data in your device when flashing!
Thanks again, and no, you are not confusing me
In fact, the only reason why I skipped that solution is because there's no official WM6 upgrade from Vodafone IT
Actually I like that SOFT_SSPL.exe thingy... Does it mean that my CID is unlocked just for the time of flashing or what?
And... it seems that you talk about CID and SPL like if they were the same thing... what's the difference?
Thx
Yes.
You will have to copy the soft.sspl.exe to your pda and run it from there. Just have your stuff ready for flashing before doing so.
The soft_sspl.exe is not writing anything to your ppc permanently. After flashing it is gone.
Please read the UPGRADING FOR BEGINNERS section in the Wiki carefully, even about bootloaders and all that crap before starting to flash!
TAKEN FROM THE HERMES WIKTIONARY in the Wiki section:
CID
The CID (Carrier ID) of the device is a setting which determines which carrier ROMs should be allowed to run on the device, a table of valid CIDs can be found in the wiki pages. All bootloaders (apart from HardSPL and SSPL) will only allow a ROM with the correct CID to be flashed onto the device. A device which has been CID unlocked will have 'SuperCID' which allows ANY ROM to be loaded onto the device, SuperCID also unlocks the Ext_ROM and allows it to be mounted.
SPL
See Bootloader.
SSPL
SSPL is a modified bootloader (by Des) which is loaded into RAM when run, this allows us to overwrite any aspect of the ROM, Radio or Bootloader far easier than using mtty. See the official thread for more info.
Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)
chunkymonkey said:
Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)
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Thanks for this really helpful advice!
I'll try to do some research on this option before doing anything, just to make sure that I know all the options before taking a definite road...
I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.
If all radio functions seem good and reliable you could leave the radio upgrade.
On a 'new radio version' thread try to find any references from a user from your own country, region within that country and provider as regards any radio versions. each new one is simply the most recent that a provider somewhere has brought out. the latest version number by no means that any given phone on X provider in X region of X country will be improved. It could easily be worsened.
Another way to do it, and very long-winded, is to flash the latest radio and, if dissatisfied, go backward thorugh the versions till you get it performing satisfactorily.
If you're happy wwith your radio performance don't change it tbh. Just my opinion on that, some people may differ.
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... I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.
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HardSPL will be permanently written (hard-coded) to your phone! This can be a problem if you have to mail in your phone for service! You would lose your warranty!
SSPL is just temporary for the moment. It executes from the RAM until the flash job is finished. Afterwards it is gone!
BTW: I made some experiments on my 8525:
It was not very difficult to 'undo' HardSPL! I simply took my original shipped ROM image file (nbh) and flashed it entirely with CustomRUU - afterwards HardSPL was gone.
If I ever get a new device I will use SSPL only. All you have to do, is, to copy it to your SD card and run it when you want to flash your device. That makes it only 1 more step compared to having your phone HardSPLed ...
Mmm, considering both your answers, I might go for SSPL, at least for the first time.
I thought that the official HTC update contained also a new radio version, so there should be no difference between carriers... that's a point that confuses me a bit.
I mean, are there HTC radios as opposed to Vodafone radios and so on?
Hi,
Does HTC release their own updated ROMs for the Diamond???
If so where can I find them and how do I update the device (does HTC have instructions on the web)??? Also what is the latest ROM version (I think I have 1.37.0 WWE), my phone came from Hong Kong...
Thanks,
NW
NightWolf88 said:
Hi,
Does HTC release their own updated ROMs for the Diamond???
If so where can I find them and how do I update the device (does HTC have instructions on the web)??? Also what is the latest ROM version (I think I have 1.37.0 WWE), my phone came from Hong Kong...
Thanks,
NW
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Try reading the rules here before posting!
Also, get familiar to using forum search and also google search.
oh no...
not someone who and use the search button
i have tried the search function!
i cannot find a concrete answer as to if htc has actually got a download page with the roms or if we need to use the rom 1.93... and this hard spl program...
fyi when searching i found many ppl asking the same qus as me yet there was no answer other than a few wasteful people saynting use the search function... if u do know the answer dont be Arrogant and say use search - the onlynthing u are doing is wasting ppls time and increasing ur post count. i asked for some help if u dont have anything useful to add dont post...
thanks
www.htc.com - E-club
It's in your phone manual as well.
Riel said:
www.htc.com - E-club
It's in your phone manual as well.
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HTC e-club doesn't have roms for diamond - not on Hong Kong where I login anyway.
Thanks for the reply Riel/Tim, I have been to that page and enter in my SN and register but when I go to my device nothing comes up... I cannot see the Diamond listed under software downloads either..? I log into world wide...
Thanks for the reply, I have been to that page and enter in my SN and register but when I go to my device nothing comes up as well... SO I'd say HTC havent release any ROM device updates... SO how do you guys get the exe for the diamond v1.93???
Also to install the 1.93 ROM posted by Tom do I need to install HardSPL on my phone..? Because it looks like that package will work with no need to install any SPL, its just an exe that runs through a wizard... What way/how does the HardSPL versions here prevent me from bricking the phone? How do I find the SPL version that is currently on my phone and can I revert back to the original SPL/remove hard CID so I dont void warranty..?
Tim what ROM are you using on your Diamond and how did you install it???
Also does the ROM posted by Tom have the Radio ROM (I think its 1.00.25.5 inc in the package guessing by the file name?) let me use Quad band network?
HTC does release the updates, but not on their site. Only to their resellers I believe.
Yes, it is essential to install hard SPL on your phone for any ROM you want to try. I am using walshieau's Elite 3.0 ROM 9 (which is very quick). This is what I did to install it:
1) Flash hard SPL signed version (which will hard reset your phone, so backup using PIM backup from pocketpcfreewares.com)
2) Flash the ROM of your choice
After this I decided to update the Radio to version .05
In order to do this I needed to first flash with UNsigned hard SPL, then flash the radio using CustomRUU. Now I have support for Telstra's NextG 850Mhz.
NightWolf88: check your PM and you can contact me by phone and I may be able to explain in more detail.
Thanks very much for the help Tim!!! Thanks to all the other people doing great work on these forums!!
Ok so from what I have read so far ( I posted this in the 1.93 ROM thread as well - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2416200&posted=1#post2416200) I just need some of my noobish questions answered, dont want to ruin my lovely Diamond :
From what I have read:
1. Backup device - Is there any way I can backup the ROM which is currently on my device (1.37.00.0 WWE)???
2. Upgrade to HardSPL signed as this is a signed ROM- download this file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400402 extract, run the .exe file... Follow the RomUpdateUtility.exe (RUU) wizard - SPL will flash and then with any luck get a message saying complete - job is done.
What does "1. do not try to use this SSPL to flash anything else other than an SPL file. it explicitly blocks other flashes anyway. SSPL is *never* a good way to flash OS images" mean... So can I not use this to update the device OS ROM to 1.93. in this thread??? I assume SSPL = Signed Second Program Loader..?
Do I need to use this unsigned version..? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950 - It has overwrite protection..?
Finally - use volume down & soft reset to see that SPL/bootloader has installed/flashed correctly... Then to SAFELY get out of the bootloader softreset again...?
3. Upgrade the OS ROM using the .exe file in post 1 of this thread...
So I download the exe connect my device via active sync then follow the rest of the steps in the RUU.exe wizard, it will give me a progress bar on both the PC and the Diamond, the Diamond will then softreset with the new rom all installed..?
Questions:
Can someone please confirm the above method is correct to install the ROM on this page?
Does the Radio also update itself to 1.00.25.05 when running the exe in the post #1??? I.e. will I get quad band radio support???
Do I need the signed or unsigned SPL what is the best to use???
How do I dump the ROM that is currently on my device to PC/whats the best program? Do I need to do this for warranty etc or if I dont like the new ROM..?
To restore to original SPL I go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2324829&postcount=39 grab my stock SPL and then use the unsigned SPL RUU exe? What is SSPL-manual used for???
Also in the post by cmonex (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2324829&postcount=39) he says "if you have signed hardspl, just go ahead and flash with normal RUU process (no overwrite protection in that one, as it is already only accepting htchackers signed files, there was no need for that)."
What is the normal RUU process???
If I use the signed SPL I can just use the RUU.exe that comes with that and copy the stock SPL to replace the .nbh file in the signed Hard-SPL folder and everything should run fine? No need to worry with the unsigned Hard-SPL version right?
As stupid as it may sound I still don’t get all this SPL/SSPL/Hard-SPL stuff, what is on the phone originally? and what changes with hard-spl download packages??? I assume SPL is a boot loader like BIOS on the “PC” or EFI on Intel-Apple Macs..? What is the difference between the stock SPL/bootloader on the phone and signed/unsigned hard-SPL that some of the guys here have made?
Thanks once again ,
NW
NightWolf88 said:
Thanks for the reply Riel/Tim, I have been to that page and enter in my SN and register but when I go to my device nothing comes up... I cannot see the Diamond listed under software downloads either..? I log into world wide...
Thanks for the reply, I have been to that page and enter in my SN and register but when I go to my device nothing comes up as well... SO I'd say HTC haven't release any ROM device updates... SO how do you guys get the exe for the diamond v1.93???
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Same problem here!
Yes, I did use the search function but didn't find what I was looking for.
That being said, I have registered my Diamond on e-Club. (It's a French Orange one, so I used a hack I found on another forum to correctly register by changing "HT825" to "HT826" in the SN.) However, I don't see anything for the diamond available for download under "Phone Software Updates" and "Other Downloads."
So my question is: does HTC offer certain downloads only to certain SN?
The answer might have been already posted somewhere; if so please redirect me (and NightWolf88) to the correct thread if you know it!
Thanks
PS: NightWolf88, check out www.modmydiamond.info if you haven't already: it's a fantastic tutorial that will most likely answer most of your questions regarding the fine art of ROM flashing and restoring.
Yeah I have checked that page, great site.
From what I have read there are no HTC e-club updates for the Diamond yet, only updates going to resellers... I also emailed HTC Tech support - I got this reply:
Thank you for choosing hTC. Please note that there's no new rom for HTC Touch Diamond at the moment. We recommend you to visit our hTC HK website for the latest information as below
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I wish that HTC would pull there finger out and release an official ROM.
After putting an Official Rom update on the e-club site but then taking it down pretty quickly, it seems strange they haven't released one yet.
Im holding out for an Official Rom, but I think i will just give in and flash a cooked rom in the end.
Gonna try flashing the Radio first as I havent got an issue with the Rom itself, just with the signal behaving very erratically!
Will see.
Great site tho xda devs and also the modmydiamond one to, some invaluable info on both of them.
Thanks everyone on here.
On my SN and registration I definatedly got provided with a new rom.
It is 1.37 in my case, in Dutch.
See attachment of screenshot of the Site:
Riel said:
On my SN and registration I definatedly got provided with a new rom.
It is 1.37 in my case, in Dutch.
See attachment of screenshot of the Site:
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Yeah it seems that only device SNs that shipped with <1.37 have an update, there is no offical release of 1.93 which is (from what I have read) better than 1.37, but 1.37 was alot better than the 34s and 35s if you do a search around the net alot of reviewers got sent these ROMs which fixed initial lag issues...
I want to put 1.93 on my device, wanted offical htc release but I'm just going to use the one posted here...
Any one hjelp me with the ROM update???
NightWolf88 said:
Thanks very much for the help Tim!!! Thanks to all the other people doing great work on these forums!!
Ok so from what I have read so far ( I posted this in the 1.93 ROM thread as well - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2416200&posted=1#post2416200) I just need some of my noobish questions answered, dont want to ruin my lovely Diamond :
From what I have read:
1. Backup device - Is there any way I can backup the ROM which is currently on my device (1.37.00.0 WWE)???
2. Upgrade to HardSPL signed as this is a signed ROM- download this file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400402 extract, run the .exe file... Follow the RomUpdateUtility.exe (RUU) wizard - SPL will flash and then with any luck get a message saying complete - job is done.
What does "1. do not try to use this SSPL to flash anything else other than an SPL file. it explicitly blocks other flashes anyway. SSPL is *never* a good way to flash OS images" mean... So can I not use this to update the device OS ROM to 1.93. in this thread??? I assume SSPL = Signed Second Program Loader..?
Do I need to use this unsigned version..? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950 - It has overwrite protection..?
Finally - use volume down & soft reset to see that SPL/bootloader has installed/flashed correctly... Then to SAFELY get out of the bootloader softreset again...?
3. Upgrade the OS ROM using the .exe file in post 1 of this thread...
So I download the exe connect my device via active sync then follow the rest of the steps in the RUU.exe wizard, it will give me a progress bar on both the PC and the Diamond, the Diamond will then softreset with the new rom all installed..?
Questions:
Can someone please confirm the above method is correct to install the ROM on this page?
Does the Radio also update itself to 1.00.25.05 when running the exe in the post #1??? I.e. will I get quad band radio support???
Do I need the signed or unsigned SPL what is the best to use???
How do I dump the ROM that is currently on my device to PC/whats the best program? Do I need to do this for warranty etc or if I dont like the new ROM..?
To restore to original SPL I go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2324829&postcount=39 grab my stock SPL and then use the unsigned SPL RUU exe? What is SSPL-manual used for???
Also in the post by cmonex (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2324829&postcount=39) he says "if you have signed hardspl, just go ahead and flash with normal RUU process (no overwrite protection in that one, as it is already only accepting htchackers signed files, there was no need for that)."
What is the normal RUU process???
If I use the signed SPL I can just use the RUU.exe that comes with that and copy the stock SPL to replace the .nbh file in the signed Hard-SPL folder and everything should run fine? No need to worry with the unsigned Hard-SPL version right?
As stupid as it may sound I still don’t get all this SPL/SSPL/Hard-SPL stuff, what is on the phone originally? and what changes with hard-spl download packages??? I assume SPL is a boot loader like BIOS on the “PC” or EFI on Intel-Apple Macs..? What is the difference between the stock SPL/bootloader on the phone and signed/unsigned hard-SPL that some of the guys here have made?
Thanks once again ,
NW
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I want to flash a new ROM to my device and now I need to HardSPL it, now my question is, is there any way of backing up the old one, so that I might put it back on the device for warranty reasons or if the ROM does not work and I want to go back to the stock one?
Thank you in advance.
gdata
Okay, I was able to unzip the exe containing the ROM. I read somewhere that I can extract the SPL from these files (see attachment), but I think the tutorial I found was not for the Diamond, so maybe someone can point me to the correct tutorial, how to put the SPL from that ROM on my device (and yes, I want to get the ORIGINAL HTC ROM and SPL).
I assume I can use the same method to put the original ROM and SPL on the device again if necessary?
edit: Can somebody tell me whether I can use this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568 to put the htc spl on my device? I just wondered because it's for the Kaiser and for the restoring the original one, but in theory I should be able to flash the HTC SPL on my O2 device then, shouldn't I? So in the end my O2 SPL has been changed to a HTC SPL and I can install the HTC ROM?
So as you can figure out from the thread title I have a problem flashing my htc diamond.
I have installed a HardSPL version 1.30 OliNex, I can confirm that becouse on the three color screen there is a text saying "1.30 OliNex".
I still have the original ROM that comes with the phone when I bought it, so this meant to be my first flashing.
I want to flash the phone with this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593678 it is a WM 6.5 based ROM.
Because in the ROM package there wasn't a ROMUpdateUtility.exe I used it from other ROM package.
Connected via ActiveSync and followed the wizard. The phone reset and there came a gray screen with a progress bar. Now both progress bars on the phone and on the PC screen remain 0% and after a wile RUU finished with 262 ERROR Connection error, see the attached picture.
After that I tried to flash it from Internal Storage. A followed the steps according the procedure, and after the three colored screen it came the gray screen with "Loading..." message. I waited for almost 30 minutes and nothing happened.
What seems to be the problem?
I assumed about firewall disabling the connection. But I turned off the firewall and again the same story.
Then somewhere I found that there is incompatibility with the RUU and HardSPL version, but tried to flash with the same RUU that I used when I was installing HardSPL.
Then I tough that the problem is about flashing unsigned ROM on a signed HSPL, but it is not that the ROM is signed.
I am afraid to use MTTY so I don't brick my phone, because this is my first time flashing a Diamond.
I'm confused What seems to be the problem?
Any help can be welcomed.
Could this be indication of a hardware problem? When waiting for the "Loading..." message disappear the back cover warms a little.
Thanks.
1. Did you use the RUU from my thread?
2. NEVER USE AN H-SPL RUU TO FLASH ANYTHING OTHER THAN H-SPL!
3. is this a CMDA phone. IE, what network are you on?
Well no I didn't use the RUU from your thread, I've used a RUU from other ROM package.
This is not a CDMA phone I'm on T-Mobile Macedonia network. And the phone looks like this
On other Macedonian forum they told me it is a hardware problem. Can this be true?
So what do you think about my problem?
Well no I didn't use the RUU from your thread, I've used a RUU from other ROM package.
This is not a CDMA phone I'm on T-Mobile Macedonia network. And the phone looks like this
On other Macedonian forum they told me it is a hardware problem. Can this be true?
So what do you think about my problem?
EDIT: I did tried the RUU you recommended in your thread but it's the same.
I think it is in the PDA.
Configure active sync, and uncheck "allow usb connection" and try again.
For updating from internal storage you must have to copy the rom to the root of internal storage with a special name, ""diamimg.nbh"
Hmmm..
What he said... and...
Should have used one of the earlier SPLs. you only need to use the latest one if you are having problems with the older versions. I have the same diamond and used an early SPL.
Upgrade the radio rom first and go with a rom that's version 6.1 not 6.5 as most 6.5 roms now pack the Sense application.. (IMO Non-Sense, Senseless (Not enought ram or responsiveness))
Old roms here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470757
Give olinex some cash for his Diamond Unlocker as this is the surefire way to fix it.
johnyboy_ said:
Configure active sync, and uncheck "allow usb connection" and try again.
For updating from internal storage you must have to copy the rom to the root of internal storage with a special name, ""diamimg.nbh"
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The connection between PC and PDA is made, because as I said there is a progress bar on the phone screen too.
djfuego said:
What he said... and...
Should have used one of the earlier SPLs. you only need to use the latest one if you are having problems with the older versions. I have the same diamond and used an early SPL.
Upgrade the radio rom first and go with a rom that's version 6.1 not 6.5 as most 6.5 roms now pack the Sense application.. (IMO Non-Sense, Senseless (Not enought ram or responsiveness))
Old roms here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470757
Give olinex some cash for his Diamond Unlocker as this is the surefire way to fix it.
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As I understand you, you are saying to install later version of Hard SPL right?
So to install a new version of Hard SPL I just need to do the same procedure as the first time, or I have to uninstall the previous one?
And please help me which version of Hard SPL is safest to install? I'm afraid of the developer versions or maybe they aren't so scary
Are you a 100% positive it is the HardSPL?
djandreski said:
And please help me which version of Hard SPL is safest to install? I'm afraid of the developer versions or maybe they aren't so scary
Are you a 100% positive it is the HardSPL?
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Presuming from your post, you are using a signed Olinex SPL, i doubt that the rom has been signed be OliNex, the only difference with Dev is you can flash any Rom, flash the Dev one from my thread, nothing to be afraid of
Good Luck
Badwolve1
What are the steps of installing new SPL?
Do I just need to do the same procedure as the first time, or I have to uninstall the previous one(somehow)?
UPDATE: I did it, I successfully flashed my Diamond PDA! It seams that the problem was in the SPL I installed 1.40 OliNex Unsigned and it flashed like a charm. Thanks guys for the help. Now this thread can be closed, or do I have to close it myself.
Great!
Glad it all worked out
Dear All,
this time, I have a problem and need your help, please.
I just bought a new (used, but not by me ) HTC Touch Diamond. Hard-SPL (1.37 from whoever) was installed.
First MTTY'ed the device - with success (set 14 0, task 29, task 8)
Wanted to install OliNex 1.40 first
Started ROM-Update, everything went fine, screen of Diamond changed into "bar display" - but stays there with 0%
Tried several flashes (OliNex, ROM, Radio - everything the same)
Does anybody have a hint for me what to do? Identifier seems ok, DIAM100 is shown in intial bootloader screen (three color-screen)
I appreciate any hint.
With kind regards from Switzerland - Christoph
Radio
Downgrade your radio to one below 1.02.XXX before flashing the unlocked radio
Full instructions to unlock your diamond are here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749201
Once you have done this, you can flash any ROM you like
Dear Dave,
thank you very much for your support.
Unfortunately it didn't help but showed everytime the same picture - stuck in the bar at 0% and doesn't do anything.
I tried STEP 1, STEP 2 and downgrading to radio 1.00.25.05 (but actually I don't know which is actually installed, as the Diamond never reaches the Touch Diamond page with ROM & HW Info, it stucks in the Touch Diamond page with no information at all, if started not in Bootloader mode)
It seems to me that the bootloader itself could be corrupted or the model number (shows DIAM100 in Bootloader) is somewhat corrupted, as I know that the internal storage consists of more digits (like DIAM10000 or so) - and a way to fix it with MTTY? But I can't find a description of the MTTY tasks of the Diamond.
Any more Idea?
Thank you Dave, and all the others who read and think, in advance.
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Can you get into Bootloader mode by holding down
Volume down button + Back button (Bottom right button) + Press reset with the pen
Then keep pressed the first two buttons and let go of reset, keep hold of the first two buttons until it reaches the bootloader mode
If you can do this, then reboot and put the radio onto the storage card (4GB one) and enter bootloader mode, then folllow instructions on that screen to flash the radio, and you can do the same for the rom
It sounds to me like maybe you have not managed to flash the HardSPL properly
Hi Dave!
Thanks for your quick reaction.
Yes, I can anter bootloader mode. But nothing more. Flash is not possible. Hard-SPL was the first thing I tried to flash but it also remained at 0%
How can I put files on the internal storage card from within bootloader mode? (Phone is not booting, ONLY bootloader mode is accessible...) I never encountered this before...
But I can reach the phone with MTTY.. can I access the storage card through this?
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Have your tried different HardSPL versions ?
Im not sure what is wrong... if you are in Bootloader mode, and the USB drivers are installed and you have activesync running on the PC it should update no problem
I would make sure all the above is true, and attempt different HardSPLs
I think that is the issue as you wont be able to flash an unlocked radio or custom rom without HardSPL being flashed first
Here is another version you could try
http://selfmod.net/how-to-hard-spl-a-htc-diamond/
EDIT - And I dont know if there is a way to access the storage card from MTTY or bootloader, my guess is that you wont be able to
Also, this is a GSM Diamond right ? Not a CDMA ? (UK Networks are GSM)
CDMA flash is here
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/cdma-diam...ond_c-cdma-sspl-hardspl-package-here-now.html
Hi Dave!
Yes, it's GSM. Thanks for your help and the links provided - it didn't help.
I tried various Hard-SPLs: OliNex 1.20, 1.30, 1.37, 1.40 and 1.93 (developers)
Result - all the same: standstill at 0%
I've seen in MTTY that I have an "upload" menu item - but need there the start address and command line for Diamond plus to know what it is meant for, I will try to find out... and if there is some new know-how out of this, I will post it here, in order that future GENERATIONS may find it *laugh*
Dave? THANKS!
Kindest regards from Switzerland - Christoph
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Ok, lol Another possible !
Maybe your friend flashed a Signed HardSPL which means you can only flash Signed radios and roms until you flash another unsigned HardSPL
If the Radio you are trying to downgrade to is unsigned that could explain the issue... try and find a Signed radio below version 1.02.XXX and try to flash that, then try to flash to another Unsigned HardSPL, if the radio flash goes ok.
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Update stops at 0%
Short answer: You're running the normal HardSPL and you're trying to flash an unsigned (not signed by olinex) ROM. You need the developer version which fixes the 0% issue. Link is at the bottom of this post. Read on to understand the difference between Standard/Developer Edition!
Long answer: First you need to understand that there are two definitions of "signed". HTC and the mobile operators sign ROMs so that the RUU flash utility allows them to be flashed. Usually this is what the word "signed" in the filename means.
Then there is another definition of signed: The developers of HardSPL introduced their own signing process. They want to ensure that people flashing cooked ROMs can rely on a certain quality standard. The normal version of HardSPL will only allow ROMs signed by OliNex to be flashed. If the ROM you are about to flash is signed, it will say so in the thread you got it from. If it isn't signed, you will need the developer version of HardSPL. That one will allow any ROM to be flashed. Get it at the bottom of this posting.
A note on this: The signing process by olinex makes sure that the ROM you're about to flash won't brick your device. It doesn't mean all other ROMs are necessarily evil.
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Some help on 0% flash hangs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409425
I`ll have a look into uploading from MTTY as I have never tried that.. sounds a good feature if you can though for dead phones and such !
good luck.. again lol
magicdave26 said:
Ok, lol Another possible !
Maybe your friend flashed a Signed HardSPL which means you can only flash Signed radios and roms until you flash another unsigned HardSPL
If the Radio you are trying to downgrade to is unsigned that could explain the issue... try and find a Signed radio below version 1.02.XXX and try to flash that, then try to flash to another Unsigned HardSPL, if the radio flash goes ok.
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Update stops at 0%
Short answer: You're running the normal HardSPL and you're trying to flash an unsigned (not signed by olinex) ROM. You need the developer version which fixes the 0% issue. Link is at the bottom of this post. Read on to understand the difference between Standard/Developer Edition!
Long answer: First you need to understand that there are two definitions of "signed". HTC and the mobile operators sign ROMs so that the RUU flash utility allows them to be flashed. Usually this is what the word "signed" in the filename means.
Then there is another definition of signed: The developers of HardSPL introduced their own signing process. They want to ensure that people flashing cooked ROMs can rely on a certain quality standard. The normal version of HardSPL will only allow ROMs signed by OliNex to be flashed. If the ROM you are about to flash is signed, it will say so in the thread you got it from. If it isn't signed, you will need the developer version of HardSPL. That one will allow any ROM to be flashed. Get it at the bottom of this posting.
A note on this: The signing process by olinex makes sure that the ROM you're about to flash won't brick your device. It doesn't mean all other ROMs are necessarily evil.
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Some help on 0% flash hangs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409425
I`ll have a look into uploading from MTTY as I have never tried that.. sounds a good feature if you can though for dead phones and such !
good luck.. again lol
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This is the answer. I used to have the same problem because when I bought my diamond I thought everything runs the same as the TyTN but ...
So to cut this story short, almost 90% of the 0% bar situations are because U R not using signed roms. However if Ya want to then use the unsigned HardSPL.
Hi Dave & Nazgul,
it seems that my case belonst to the non-90%
Of course I tried all this, but I have THREE diamonds - two were branded by the Swiss Swisscom (this is, in fact, the same image as the German Vodafone branding), one was the original HTC version
I'm flashing Diamonds since two years though.
My fault this time was, that I THOUGHT, this new one were HardSPL'ed, but it wasn't - and formatted the device using MTTY without Hard-SPL.
After that I had the above mentioned situation.
NO Hard-SPL was flashable - as written above - also noth the unsigned developer 1.93 edition - it always remained at 0%
I managed in the meantime to flash the original Vodafone/Swisscom ROM. So I have back the device in the official configuration (HTC Swisscom 1.97 package http://www.swisscom-mobile.ch/scm/d...pa=0x0x147x18x0x0x0x0x0&odg=SoftwareAndManual)
But - this uses Radio 1.08.xxx and I would like to downgrade because I think, Dave's hint above to use a radio before 1.02.xxx would be worth a try.
BUT - I STILL can't flash anything. Neither ANY Hard-SPL nor any Radio version nor any ROM.
The bar remains at 0%
I tried to find the original (first edition) of the Swisscom ROM Package, which used the Radio 1.00.25.05 - and then to try Dave's proposed steps.. but I can't find it anymore - all you can find is the "latest" package...
So I would still appreciate any help to be able to flash. Ok, now at least, I have a usable phone... but... I wanted to use it (as the other two) for ROM development testing, so who wants to have a PHONE!?!?
Kind regards from Switzerland - Christoph
Here is your radios
Sorry for the short post, I have a really bad hangover lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407956
Morn' Dave!
I tried them all - none of them was flashable... same 0%-bar.
I thought of having the V 1.00 complete official Swisscom-Pack and as part of it, the radio 1.00.25.05, which is included. Seems to me, that the c(complete) official ROM pack is flashable.
THEN I could re-try to flash Hard-SPL (with then installed radio below 1.02.xxx)
Hangover? What's this?
Christoph21x said:
Morn' Dave!
I tried them all - none of them was flashable... same 0%-bar.
I thought of having the V 1.00 complete official Swisscom-Pack and as part of it, the radio 1.00.25.05, which is included. Seems to me, that the c(complete) official ROM pack is flashable.
THEN I could re-try to flash Hard-SPL (with then installed radio below 1.02.xxx)
Hangover? What's this?
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YEa that might work, it is almost certain the issue is the HARDSpl being either not flashed, or flashed with a signed version
Good luck !!
And the hangover is nearly gone... I cured yesterdays with more alcohol lol
Have you tried these UNSIGNED dev HARDspls ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950
Hi Dave - GOT IT, solved
The "secret" was to flash noit from withi boot loader but from within Win Mobile with ActiveSync/Windows Device Center connected.
Then say "Yes" when "enterbootloader.exe" was asked to be installed/invoked.
Then the Device rebooted, flashed Hrd-SPL 1.40 correctly - and everything else onwards went fine.
Thanks a lot for your assitance, Dave and others.
Kind regards from Switzerland - Christoph
Ah.. I thought you were already using the Activesync and CustomRUU to flash it with !
Yes, the ROMs and Radios can be flashed from the storage card, but the Hard SPL needs to be done from Activesync / CUstomRUU
Pleased you got it working anyway