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Do Not flash your Artemis with a different carrier/cooked Rom without cid unlocking

Noobs beware!
As a number have been flashing their devices with various roms not from their own carrier or country or cooked roms and bricking their device - I put up this sticky. Your device must be cid unlocked first before you do this. This applies to the coming wm6 roms to - if the rom is not specific to your device - i.e. if you try to flash the upcoming htc 3300 wm6 rom on O2 orbit - you must cid unlock first - with imei check or you will end up with a BRICK!
This does not apply if you are only updating the os http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299154 or radio.
cid = country id i.e. locked to that country/language/vendor
cid unlock for the artemis is here with USPL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311403 (thanks pof)
or here http://www.imei-check.com/c3unlock.php (costs though)
Bricked devices
If you have flashed your device and not cid unlocked it, your device maybe salvagable if you can get it into bootloader mode.
Hold down the voice speed dial button and soft reset - you should then enter bootloader mode 'multicolored' screen'
If you do, attach device to pc via usb cable (a small usb will appear bottom left of screen) and flash factory rom. (run rom executable or RUU updater from pc) You do not need to be activesynced to do this.
HTC P3300 WWE factory rom downloadable here http://rapidshare.com/files/19322112/HTC_1.12.405.01_026790_WWE_SHIP.rar
Dopod P800 WWE factory rom downloadable here http://rapidshare.com/files/21058219/ARTE_DOPODAU_1.25.707.02_026990_WWE_SHIP.rar
O2 Orbit WM5 WWE factory rom downloadable here http://rapidshare.com/files/41574866/Arteimg.nbh
O2 Orbit WM6 WWE factory rom downloadable here http://rs314.rapidshare.com/files/102261908/RUU_Artemis_O2_UK_3.4.206.2_4.1.13.50_03.06.90_Ship.exe
Before you flash again with a non-factory rom, your device MUST be cid unlocked.
If you cannot enter bootloader mode your bootloader has been damaged and your device will need to be sent away for repair.

Hi Folks,
Firstly many thanks for everyone's freely given time! Great Forum!
There seems to be a lot of confusion about who and what can be flashed with the German official ROM and then with Bepe's creation.
Can we try to clear some of the ambiguity for us simple folk? Might stop some of the repeated questions littering threads in both related artemis sections.
So, many thanks to anyone who can clarify the situation by providing definitive answers to the following questions!
(1) Can an 02 Orbit from, say, the UK or Holland be flashed with either the German and/or Bepe's ROM, even if it is CID Locked (i.e. same devcie and carrier, different country).
(2) Can a non-Orbit O2 device be flashed with either the German or bepe's ROM, even if it is CID Locked (i.e. different devcie but same carrier).
(3) Is there a fall back Rom available for non-German O2 Orbits should the upgrade fail?
Again, many thanks for your time.
Cheers - Adam.

Hi people, when I tried to upgrade to wm6, I recived a msg telling me "wrong vendor", but when I bought my HTC, it was free, no carrier sold me this device...

Pocha said:
Hi people, when I tried to upgrade to wm6, I recived a msg telling me "wrong vendor", but when I bought my HTC, it was free, no carrier sold me this device...
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Same here...
any help anyone ?
By what i read "wrong vendor" means CID locked right ? but what EXACTLY is CID locked definition ?? i CAN put any sim card inside my HTC P-3300, whether from SFR operator (france) or Proximus (belgium) one... so why do i have this wrong vendor when trying to upgrade to WM6 german rom ?

Take a look to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299154 I tried it, and now I have wm6 on my HTC P3300, it's true that you can't have upgrades to radio or extrom, but meanwhile I can use wm6

kaemon said:
Same here...
any help anyone ?
By what i read "wrong vendor" means CID locked right ? but what EXACTLY is CID locked definition ?? i CAN put any sim card inside my HTC P-3300, whether from SFR operator (france) or Proximus (belgium) one... so why do i have this wrong vendor when trying to upgrade to WM6 german rom ?
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cid = country id i.e. locked to that country/language/vendor thats why cid needs unlocking before flashing diff any of aboves roms.

imei checker
is it just me or is any one on this forum a bit sceptical of a merchant who so brazenly operates their business under the assumption that all potential customers are all fraudsters/criminal scum? is there no - more customer friendly- merchant who can perform this much valued service?
my first serious post!
xan

My HTC has no vendor since I can use all SIMs from different vendors, now I upgraded from HTC Spanish version to HTC WWE version, so Vendor and Language (plus location?) locks are disabled?

meschle said:
Noobs beware!
As a number have been flashing their devices with various roms not from their own carrier or country or cooked roms and bricking their device - I put up this sticky. Your device must be cid unlocked first before you do this. This applies to the coming wm6 roms to - if the rom is not specific to your device - i.e. if you try to flash the upcoming htc 3300 wm6 rom on O2 orbit - you must cid unlock first - with imei check or you will end up with a BRICK!
This does not apply if you are only updating the os http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299154 or radio.
cid = country id i.e. locked to that country/language/vendor
cid unlock for the artemis is here http://www.imei-check.com/c3unlock.php
Bricked devices
If you have flashed your device and not cid unlocked it, your device maybe salvagable if you can get it into bootloader mode.
Hold down the voice speed dial button and soft reset - you should then enter bootloader mode 'multicolored' screen'
If you do, attach device to pc via usb cable (a small usb will appear bottom left of screen) and flash factory rom. (run rom executable or RUU updater from pc) You do not need to be activesynced to do this.
HTC P3300 WWE factory rom downloadable here http://rapidshare.com/files/19322112/HTC_1.12.405.01_026790_WWE_SHIP.rar
Dopod P800 WWE factory rom downloadable here http://rapidshare.com/files/21058219/ARTE_DOPODAU_1.25.707.02_026990_WWE_SHIP.rar
Before you flash again with a non-factory rom, your device MUST be cid unlocked.
If you cannot enter bootloader mode your bootloader has been damaged and your device will need to be sent away for repair.[/Q
HI I TRY TO FLASH MY HTC P3300 (BRICKED) WITH FACTORY ROMS AND NEGATIVE RESULT THE PROCESS STOP AT 2%.
CAN ANYBODY HELP ?
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Hello,
I would like to Upgrade my O2 XDA Mini S with Windows Mobile 6 (localized / German version). I hardly searched for such a WM6 Upgrade but there seems to be no final version for my device and german language.
I figured out that there is an WM6 OS Upgrade for the XDA Orbit and XDA Trion (coming soon). Might it be possible to flash only an OS-ROM for WM6 extracted from one of these O2 ROM updates? I was able to extract the OS-Image and I already backed up my current ROM using aWizard. aWizard also supports flashing a single OS-ROM only.
Some people in this forum already said I might brick my device. Is it possible or not to flash the OS ROM? Is it risky to give it a try?
Do you know a final working German Upgrade for the XDA Mini S (Qtek 9100)?
Best Regards
Gabriel

Hello
I am in Bootloader mode right now and I started the updater but it says it can't connect. I see the device in Windows and my Artemis says it sees a USB connection (it says "USB" on the bottom of the screen in the white stripe).
What do I have to do for it to start working for a change?
I think I found the problem: First, it would be wise to close mtty . Then it is important to reboot and after entering Bootloader mode to connect USB not while booting. After trying it a dozen times it suddenly worked.
Please, could someone explain how I can unlock the CID with USPL? It starts the batch, when it's done I have a black screen with the Linux penguin and it says loaded. When the RUU tries to connect, though, the device doesn't respond. So I take it the process doesn't actually get finished...

I think this sticky has become useless, there is a reasonably fool-proof way to flash CID locked devices these days

Hi I Try To Flash My Htc P3300 (bricked) With Factory Roms And Negative Result The Process Stop At 2%.
Can Anybody Help ?

Just to inform you guys that i tried the USPL Method 3 times and always got an error message UPDATE ERROR (i think it was error number 270 ??).
Well, that was because after the DOS mode went until 100, and the dialog box for the ROM Update Utility appeared, this dialog box ask to wait for the PDA to be activesynced before presing the "UPDATE", so i was waiting for the PDA to reconnect to activesync (while in a black screen mode) before pressing update . THAT was the mistake. Don't wait for it to RE connect to activesync (strange right ?) and just press the NEXT and UPDATE without waiting anything.
THEN it worked i just upgrade to WM6 without VENDOR ID error anymore thanks to the USPL method

just got a dopod m700 for my wife i know it is a g4 ppc hence will this zip file work on it to get the cid unlocked or do i have to follow a similiar procedure as i had to for my wizard

sorry i got my answer
please ignore my earlier question

fout said:
I think this sticky has become useless, there is a reasonably fool-proof way to flash CID locked devices these days
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Hi there,
any pointer to this fool-proof way?
A foolish GioVAX

****ed up my artemis with this rom by upgrading stucks in loading mode WM6 screen. Can access bootloader but it always tell me upgrading again that i have the wrong rru....
CAN ANYBODY PLEASE UPLODE THE ORIGINAL WM5 ROM in GERMAN by htc for Artemis
(NOT Orbit oder MDAIII)
OR where can i get the original rom to downgrade????
Please help
thanks

Last night I flash my Dopod M700 to WM6 but after reboot it only enter to the boot flash screen showing IPL SPL 1.11 OS 3.7 etc......
I did unlock the CID but the flashing of WM6 seems not ok.
Then I enter to the bootloader mood and flash the WWE WM5.0 of HTC M700 rom. It did turn the M700 back to WM5.0 and then I flash it with WM 6.0 again.
However, I forgot to unlock CID again before flashing. Then now the device stuck in the boot screen with SPL 1.28 OS 3.7 etc......
I still can enter to bootloader mood, but I have tried to heal the device by flashing it with the WWE WM 5.0 rom of HTC M700 again. But it cannot be flashed again!!!! Error message came out that the rom is not for my device!!
Help!!!!!!!!!

Is the wm5 wwe rom the factory rom for your device or are you from another country?

SuperCID for cooked ROM?

I'm confused, and this is probably an easy-answer question:
So I've got an 8535, SIM unlocked, using it with T-Mobile. If I want to put, say, Black Satin on it, do I need to make it SuperCID too?
If not ....... why make it SuperCID?

It's always a good idea to first refer to the WIKI; most all of your answers will be found there. Yours is a basic question that has been answered many times.

Honestly I didn't see it in the Wiki .......

Yeah, I just searched the wiki's again and couldn't find anything, and couldn't find anything doing a Google search too. Everything just says you need SuperCID to flash "another carrier's" ROMs onto the phone -- does Black Majik count as "another carrier"?
And then there's sites like trinityguides.com that say things like this: "you will not need to Super-CID your device in order to upgrade with these instructions. The RUU will push SSPL on to your device which will bypass CID check, and Hard-SPL will do the same things for you as a CID unlock, without actually unlocking it." This site reads different in the wiki.
If it is in the wiki, then what page is it on because I seriously cannot find it!

- On OLD devices using NBF format for rom upgrades, you where able to flash ANY rom to your device if you had it SuperCID.
- On NEW devices using NBH format for rom upgrades, the NBH format is SIGNED, which means the device's bootloader won't accept the ROM if it is not signed with the proper HTC certificate. If your device is SuperCID you'll be able to flash ANY carrier's ROM which are SIGNED with the proper certificate, but you won't be able to flash cooked ROMs (not signed with the HTC cert). For this you need a patched bootloader, such as SSPL, HardSPL or USPL, which will allow you to bypass signature checking EVEN if the device is not really SuperCID.
Hope it's clear now, feel free to add it to the wiki yourself

Aha! Fantastic! Thank you pof! (I'll add it later, methinks -- work now).
So what is the point of using another carrier's ROM? Just having their ROM on there? From what I've been reading, it looks like the cooked ROMs are definitely the way to go -- better apps, better performance, much sleeker styling.

Imagine somoene buys a Orange device, sim-unlocks it and uses it with a Vodafone SIM card. If he's not an average user, he probably just wants to put a Vodafone rom on the device to not need to setup data connection, mms settings, and have all the operator customizations integrated in the rom. This person is fine with just a CID-unlock, does not need to flash unsigned code (which generally has more risk than flashing a 'official' rom). But of course, the bast majority of us are not happy "only" with this

Thank you for the replies pof ... not all people are around to help, but you are. Thank you.

How to EXACTLY undo a wm6 upgrade?

Hi Everybody
My hermes is the following:
Vodafone 1605 ITA WM5
ROM: 2.07.165.1 (02/13/07)
Radio: 1.32.00.00
I don't know If I'm going to tryu the wm6 update, but, before even thinking about it, I want to make sure that I can restore it back to what it was in the beginning, in case anything goes wrong...
How can I save my Rom, radio and everything OR where can I find my exact rom and all the necessary stuff to revert it back?
I noticed a guide for wm5 downgrade, but that wolud probably only bring back wm5 in some form, and not MY wm5 and everything that comes with it...
I hope you understood what I mean
Is that even possible?
Thanks in advance

Happily, it's easy mate.
Download your original rom from the archive so you've got it to reinstall from. (Check your current versions of rom, radio, etc. to make sure it's the right one.)
When you want to downgrade, just plug in your phone and run the downloaded exe. It'll take LOADS longer for the 'old' rom to install than your upgrade to wm6 did. This is mainly because the 'old' (original) rom you download will install spl, ext rom, os, plash 1 + 2 and radio all at once.
Thats the easy way.
You could extract just the bits of the original you need to save time, but there are instructions in threads, wiki and downloads for that so I won't repeat it all here. It's Dutty's Good NBH Tool you'll be using (start your search with that if you want to go down that road).

Thanks for the quick reply
By "archive" do you mean this?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
So I guess my rom should be this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298541
It also matches my ROM and Radio version.
There's just one thing I don't understand... I looked at the WM6 guides on mrvanx.org, which show many many steps. Are you saying that I could just grab the latest original HTC exe update and launch it and it would update everything? And still only launch another exe to revert to the old stuff?
Then why do people take the risk and flash all the components separately? Just to use homemade roms?
Thanks

No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.

http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
all your questions answered here!

chunkymonkey said:
No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.
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Ok that wes pretty clear
Let me just see if I got it right.
To go WM6:
- Upgrade CID to an unlocked version
- Either
1. Use HTC official exe upgrade, which updates ROM, ExtROM and Radio
or
2. Update Radio first and then ROM+ExtROM with a custom version
To revert to Vodafone WM5:
It's not assured that my radio can be safely downgraded (http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27), so:
- Use Dutty's tool to extract my Vodafone ROM+ExtROM (no Radio) from the exe
- Downgrade SPL (not mandatory)
- Flash Vodafone ROM+ExtROM
Kinda?...

Yep, kinda!
But if you're planning to upgrade to WM6 with the correct VODAFONE release for your device you do not need to CID unlock your device and all that crap!
Sorry, I am not trying to confuse you!
Here an example:
Lets say you have an HTC Hermes from Vodafone UK with WM5 on there!
If Vodafone UK provides you an WM6 upgrade on their site (or if you find it in the 'archive' here in the Wiki then you do not have to CID unlock but you can run the upgrade without doing anything more than downloading the ROM and running it.
After you upgraded with the Vodafone UK WM6 you can 'downgrade' again with the Vodafone UK WM5 without any problems - even here a CID unlock is not necessary! Both ROMs contain the same CID code because of they are from the same provider.
A CID unlock is only necessary if you are planning to flash your device with ROMs which are not from your network provider, as example you want to flash a Hermes ROM from O2 UK to your Vodafone UK device. O2 UK is a different network provider and has a different CID code. Therefore your phone would refuse the upgrade and give you an error message WRONG VENDER ID!
CID unlock will trick your phone and it just does not care anymore about the VENDER ID (CID code) submitted by the ROM you're trying to flash!
The best way for you to play around with that stuff for a while might be to use SOFT_SSPL.exe to temporarely 'CID unlock' your phone. If you think that you really need it permanently CID unlocked because of you're going to flash it a lot then download the Hermes_Unlocker_3a which will do the job for you!
Please keep in mind that you will lose all data in your device when flashing!

Thanks again, and no, you are not confusing me
In fact, the only reason why I skipped that solution is because there's no official WM6 upgrade from Vodafone IT
Actually I like that SOFT_SSPL.exe thingy... Does it mean that my CID is unlocked just for the time of flashing or what?
And... it seems that you talk about CID and SPL like if they were the same thing... what's the difference?
Thx

Yes.
You will have to copy the soft.sspl.exe to your pda and run it from there. Just have your stuff ready for flashing before doing so.
The soft_sspl.exe is not writing anything to your ppc permanently. After flashing it is gone.
Please read the UPGRADING FOR BEGINNERS section in the Wiki carefully, even about bootloaders and all that crap before starting to flash!
TAKEN FROM THE HERMES WIKTIONARY in the Wiki section:
CID
The CID (Carrier ID) of the device is a setting which determines which carrier ROMs should be allowed to run on the device, a table of valid CIDs can be found in the wiki pages. All bootloaders (apart from HardSPL and SSPL) will only allow a ROM with the correct CID to be flashed onto the device. A device which has been CID unlocked will have 'SuperCID' which allows ANY ROM to be loaded onto the device, SuperCID also unlocks the Ext_ROM and allows it to be mounted.
SPL
See Bootloader.
SSPL
SSPL is a modified bootloader (by Des) which is loaded into RAM when run, this allows us to overwrite any aspect of the ROM, Radio or Bootloader far easier than using mtty. See the official thread for more info.

Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)

chunkymonkey said:
Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)
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Thanks for this really helpful advice!
I'll try to do some research on this option before doing anything, just to make sure that I know all the options before taking a definite road...
I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.

If all radio functions seem good and reliable you could leave the radio upgrade.
On a 'new radio version' thread try to find any references from a user from your own country, region within that country and provider as regards any radio versions. each new one is simply the most recent that a provider somewhere has brought out. the latest version number by no means that any given phone on X provider in X region of X country will be improved. It could easily be worsened.
Another way to do it, and very long-winded, is to flash the latest radio and, if dissatisfied, go backward thorugh the versions till you get it performing satisfactorily.
If you're happy wwith your radio performance don't change it tbh. Just my opinion on that, some people may differ.

Gatz said:
... I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.
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HardSPL will be permanently written (hard-coded) to your phone! This can be a problem if you have to mail in your phone for service! You would lose your warranty!
SSPL is just temporary for the moment. It executes from the RAM until the flash job is finished. Afterwards it is gone!
BTW: I made some experiments on my 8525:
It was not very difficult to 'undo' HardSPL! I simply took my original shipped ROM image file (nbh) and flashed it entirely with CustomRUU - afterwards HardSPL was gone.
If I ever get a new device I will use SSPL only. All you have to do, is, to copy it to your SD card and run it when you want to flash your device. That makes it only 1 more step compared to having your phone HardSPLed ...

Mmm, considering both your answers, I might go for SSPL, at least for the first time.
I thought that the official HTC update contained also a new radio version, so there should be no difference between carriers... that's a point that confuses me a bit.
I mean, are there HTC radios as opposed to Vodafone radios and so on?

Something i still don't understand about USPL...

Hello,
So much time in the forum and i still didn't get this part properly:
I have used USPL for the Artemis, and i have been flashing some ROMs with no issues at all. My problem is that i want to try out an official WM6 ROM:
HTC_P3300_WWE_3.13.405.1_4.1.13.44_02.94.90_Ship_R
And i know this will overwrite my SPL once again. I currently have SPL 1.11.0000 (so it is CID unlocked).
Can i flash this ROM safely without bricking the Artemis? (silly question but better safe than sorry). I know that if my SPL gets overwritten i have to USPL once again in order to flash cooked roms, this part i got
Basically what i need to know is if USPL will make the Artemis flashable with ANY type of ROM (cooked, official, etc).
Thanks for any help.

yep, uspl will allow officail/cooked roms
tried flashing official rom with out uspl and my ppc was showing SPL 1.11.0000 from before, it wouldn't flash even though it was the official rom.
flashed with uspl and all was fine

Okay thank you

hey dude - did you read the uspl manual by POF
the uspl tool for artemis temporarily add files to the phone RAM so that it will allow any rom to be flashed! once the phone is immediatly soft-reseted after running the uspl utility the uspl files will be deleted (from the ram i think) and it will be protected again (locked again) the uspl tool by pof does not change the ispl it just create kind of a backdoor way! (my analogy)
from experience a hard reset is alway beneficial and necessary from my point of view after flashing roms
also soft rest is useful before running the uspl - u need ram
best wishes and happy flashing - we are flashing addicts here thanks to pof

jahrami:- not true, start_uspl thru cewrite.exe adds some files to allow Ruu to flash USPL (SPL:1.11.0000) after flashing spl is finished(correctly) U can do as many HARD/Soft resets as u want to. U can flash whatever U want as many times U want to. But u need to take care if its not SHIP rom (they flash SPL as well) While u'll use only cooked roms, u can sleep in peace. Best way is to check SPL version always before flashing.

phsnake said:
jahrami:- not true, start_uspl thru cewrite.exe adds some files to allow Ruu to flash USPL (SPL:1.11.0000) after flashing spl is finished(correctly) U can do as many HARD/Soft resets as u want to. U can flash whatever U want as many times U want to. But u need to take care if its not SHIP rom (they flash SPL as well) While u'll use only cooked roms, u can sleep in peace. Best way is to check SPL version always before flashing.
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Hi phsnake
When you use uspl does it change the spl version??
read the notes 2-6 in the uspl manual
2 says the uspl does not change imei we all agree
3 says says the uspl it does not correct cid (country id) area yeah
4 says the uspl TEMPORARILY unclock the device
5 says the uspl AFTER FLASHING the phone is set back to factory settings
dear phsnake ppl were running uspl, soft reseting their phones, then try to flash a rom (they reported that flashing did not work) so it seems that files extracted by uspl go into a temporarily memory would you say its the rom or ram?
i just offered my understanding to what i've read i am not as intelligent as pof - i am just an ordinary member i am even not senior
best wishes

The USPL is permanent unless it is overwritten by another FULL flash (including SPL). If you just flash the OS, GSM, EXT_ROM or SPLASH parts, it'll be there forever.
I tried flashing an official ROM after USPL and it still said the device didn't have the characteristics for the ROM or whatever, so i extracted OS.nb, flashed it, and it worked like a charm.
For as long as you have SPL 1.11.0000 (forever if you don't overwrite it) you can flash away as you like.

Hard SPL flashing

I have only recently found this site and I would like some information regarding flashing my Rhodium with a Hard SPL
Do I need to unlock the device before a Hard SPL flash. My device is on a t-mobile contract but it has worked with an O2 simcard.
Is there a set of instructions for flashing a ROM. I read that I need to be connected to windows mobile software but some of the hard SPL seem to be an exe file while others are RUU.

confused2 said:
I have only recently found this site and I would like some information regarding flashing my Rhodium with a Hard SPL
Do I need to unlock the device before a Hard SPL flash. My device is on a t-mobile contract but it has worked with an O2 simcard.
Is there a set of instructions for flashing a ROM. I read that I need to be connected to windows mobile software but some of the hard SPL seem to be an exe file while others are RUU.
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1 : dont need to unlock anything. (i installed Hard SPL on an HTC HD from Orange without problems)
2 : As far as i know, there are no Hard SPL for TP2 (yet).
But it shouldnt be any different from other HTC phones around.
Instructions for the TP (NOT TP2, so dont try dont download this HARD SPL, its just an example) are on the Wiki :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Raphael_HardSPL
But to sum up, yes you need to have your phone plugged into Activesync, then run the EXE file from your computer. It will then display you the instructions steps to install Hard SPL.
It takes 5 minutes, and its easy.
The only requirements is to have at least 50% battery.

confused2 said:
I have only recently found this site and I would like some information regarding flashing my Rhodium with a Hard SPL
Do I need to unlock the device before a Hard SPL flash. My device is on a t-mobile contract but it has worked with an O2 simcard.
Is there a set of instructions for flashing a ROM. I read that I need to be connected to windows mobile software but some of the hard SPL seem to be an exe file while others are RUU.
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once hard spl is realeased for tp2(currently work in progress) there will also be a security/sim unlocker available(not sure if will be free). some phones need to be security unlocked prior to flashing. all tools needed to flash will be provided. most common are via custom RUU but there may also be a micro sd methos as well. your phone seems to be sim unlocked but may need to be security unlocked before flashing new roms. put phone in boot loader mode(hold vol down and power up device when off) and it should say security unlocked at top if it is. if it doesnt say that they it may need it.
Htc Blackstone is closest device in terms of compatibility with tp2 so check in that forum so any further explanation on whatever issues you may be confused about!

my phone says, ' Rhod 100 32M SS-BC', but no mention of unlocked.