Hi,
I used to use an O2 EXEC and was happy playing around with ROMS as I could always download the origonal from o2
I cant find a simular download from T-Mobile so am uncomfortable trying the new HTC WM6 Rom as my phone is new!! and I cant go back (in case of warranty claim etc)
I've seen various threads on backing up Roms but they state you cant restore using these backups
So is there a download (like the o2 one?)
Or can someone post step by step instructions of how to do it manually (if possible)
Many thanks
Jonathan
Check the wiki. many original shipped roms are there.
Something like wiki > hermes > original shipped ROM.
If you use the google search tool linked in my sig and search for something like:
hermes rom original
you will probably find it too. Also, mrvanx.org has a good guide for this.
Checked there alreay there is only a Hungarian English Rom (so still not able to reset to default!)
Guide on Modaco
There's a guide on Modaco that I successfully followed. After my first flash to WM6 I had to downgrade to WM5 to restore a SPB Backup (forgot to activesync first, and spb backup wouldn't restore on WM6 from WM5).
http://www.modaco.com/Paul-s-guide-to-backin-t255090.html
Also, you may want the t-mob splash screens as these are not extracted, I've attached them for your pleasure (use the guide on mrvanx's site to convert and flash them, paying VERY close attention to the instructions, do it wrong and you'll have to reflash).
Also, it goes without saying, make sure you have installed HardSPL
The guides on MrVanx's site are good for newbs (it's what I used first time around)
Thanks Philjohn,
Thats EXACTLY what I was after!!
I've already got a backup of the OS and ExtROM for T-Mobile - and I'm sure IPL SPL are available.
The only thing is if you upgrade the radio rom past 1.28 (I think...) you can't go back as there is currently no way to downgrade the radio bootloader...i doubt anyone in the warranty\whatever dept. would notice that though...
If you get stuck, PM me
Smiffy.
I want to know how can I roll back the JASJAM to the original shipped state. I mean the same CID lock, IPL, SPL and the OS.
I have not upgraded as I want to know how to fully backup all these things so that I can always go back.
Regards,
Alber
Well, you need to read through the wiki - it will help you out.
You can always try to dump and then repackage the ROM on your phone. However, your best bet is to find a ROM image from the list of shipped ROM's available in the wiki. Then, you just flash that back, with it's IPL, SPL and splashes and all using the directions at THIS SITE. MrVanx's guides are the best.
Hi All,
I've been playing around with various WM6 ROM's but I have now decided to sell the phone (I want a Kaiser!), anyway whats the best way of reverting back to the original HTC booloader & WM5 ROM. I ask this because I still have valid warranty but only if HTC never find any traces of different ROM's??
I assume I would use ROM
HTC English HTC__001 1.23.405.2 1.07.0000 1.38.00.11 ??
but what about the bootloader??
Any advice would be a real help
Cheers
Ody
You should have the original ROM on your phone just hard reset it using the key combination to reinstall...
odyseus said:
Hi All,
I've been playing around with various WM6 ROM's but I have now decided to sell the phone (I want a Kaiser!), anyway whats the best way of reverting back to the original HTC booloader & WM5 ROM. I ask this because I still have valid warranty but only if HTC never find any traces of different ROM's??
I assume I would use ROM
HTC English HTC__001 1.23.405.2 1.07.0000 1.38.00.11 ??
but what about the bootloader??
Any advice would be a real help
Cheers
Ody
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incorrect.. hard resetting will just wipe your data, not revert your ROM to original factory ROM
if you have the official ROM from your manufacturer, it should come with SPL packaged in it.. run SSPL manually and then run the official ROM update
I thought that part of the ROM comes with a hidden partition of WM5 so that in event of problems you could reflash back as it says in the manual? This is quoted in many threads! ie. Flash WM6 as much as you want and in event of problems just restore back to original state.
Yes but by flashing the orginial WM5 that cane with the device...
If you flash with WM6 the "Hidden" section will restore WM6 i.e. whats on the device..
so what would be good then is if there was a simple tool for backing up a rom to a PC like the one Orange used to do instead of all the command line converstions etc...
if one enter the bootloader and format the reg and storage that way
it's like an old fasion hardreset
everything will go back to the org rom settings
but never to a former rom if one have flashed it to a new one
hence is the a way we can simply backup our present ROM exactly as we have it now before flashing?
you can do a dump of your ROM to make a backup of it.. although it's a bit troublesome. Depending on your carrier, they may actually have your official ROM on their site, or it may be in the wiki, so not everyone needs a ROM dump
yep.. but if you changed WM5 and installed progs exactly as you wanted it then its good to get a backup...
umm.. yeah... i guess that goes without saying. you could use sprite or something.. then flash the same original wm5 rom and restore your backup
yes but would be more handly to create a flashable rom backup
Hi Everybody
My hermes is the following:
Vodafone 1605 ITA WM5
ROM: 2.07.165.1 (02/13/07)
Radio: 1.32.00.00
I don't know If I'm going to tryu the wm6 update, but, before even thinking about it, I want to make sure that I can restore it back to what it was in the beginning, in case anything goes wrong...
How can I save my Rom, radio and everything OR where can I find my exact rom and all the necessary stuff to revert it back?
I noticed a guide for wm5 downgrade, but that wolud probably only bring back wm5 in some form, and not MY wm5 and everything that comes with it...
I hope you understood what I mean
Is that even possible?
Thanks in advance
Happily, it's easy mate.
Download your original rom from the archive so you've got it to reinstall from. (Check your current versions of rom, radio, etc. to make sure it's the right one.)
When you want to downgrade, just plug in your phone and run the downloaded exe. It'll take LOADS longer for the 'old' rom to install than your upgrade to wm6 did. This is mainly because the 'old' (original) rom you download will install spl, ext rom, os, plash 1 + 2 and radio all at once.
Thats the easy way.
You could extract just the bits of the original you need to save time, but there are instructions in threads, wiki and downloads for that so I won't repeat it all here. It's Dutty's Good NBH Tool you'll be using (start your search with that if you want to go down that road).
Thanks for the quick reply
By "archive" do you mean this?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
So I guess my rom should be this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298541
It also matches my ROM and Radio version.
There's just one thing I don't understand... I looked at the WM6 guides on mrvanx.org, which show many many steps. Are you saying that I could just grab the latest original HTC exe update and launch it and it would update everything? And still only launch another exe to revert to the old stuff?
Then why do people take the risk and flash all the components separately? Just to use homemade roms?
Thanks
No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
all your questions answered here!
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No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.
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Ok that wes pretty clear
Let me just see if I got it right.
To go WM6:
- Upgrade CID to an unlocked version
- Either
1. Use HTC official exe upgrade, which updates ROM, ExtROM and Radio
or
2. Update Radio first and then ROM+ExtROM with a custom version
To revert to Vodafone WM5:
It's not assured that my radio can be safely downgraded (http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27), so:
- Use Dutty's tool to extract my Vodafone ROM+ExtROM (no Radio) from the exe
- Downgrade SPL (not mandatory)
- Flash Vodafone ROM+ExtROM
Kinda?...
Yep, kinda!
But if you're planning to upgrade to WM6 with the correct VODAFONE release for your device you do not need to CID unlock your device and all that crap!
Sorry, I am not trying to confuse you!
Here an example:
Lets say you have an HTC Hermes from Vodafone UK with WM5 on there!
If Vodafone UK provides you an WM6 upgrade on their site (or if you find it in the 'archive' here in the Wiki then you do not have to CID unlock but you can run the upgrade without doing anything more than downloading the ROM and running it.
After you upgraded with the Vodafone UK WM6 you can 'downgrade' again with the Vodafone UK WM5 without any problems - even here a CID unlock is not necessary! Both ROMs contain the same CID code because of they are from the same provider.
A CID unlock is only necessary if you are planning to flash your device with ROMs which are not from your network provider, as example you want to flash a Hermes ROM from O2 UK to your Vodafone UK device. O2 UK is a different network provider and has a different CID code. Therefore your phone would refuse the upgrade and give you an error message WRONG VENDER ID!
CID unlock will trick your phone and it just does not care anymore about the VENDER ID (CID code) submitted by the ROM you're trying to flash!
The best way for you to play around with that stuff for a while might be to use SOFT_SSPL.exe to temporarely 'CID unlock' your phone. If you think that you really need it permanently CID unlocked because of you're going to flash it a lot then download the Hermes_Unlocker_3a which will do the job for you!
Please keep in mind that you will lose all data in your device when flashing!
Thanks again, and no, you are not confusing me
In fact, the only reason why I skipped that solution is because there's no official WM6 upgrade from Vodafone IT
Actually I like that SOFT_SSPL.exe thingy... Does it mean that my CID is unlocked just for the time of flashing or what?
And... it seems that you talk about CID and SPL like if they were the same thing... what's the difference?
Thx
Yes.
You will have to copy the soft.sspl.exe to your pda and run it from there. Just have your stuff ready for flashing before doing so.
The soft_sspl.exe is not writing anything to your ppc permanently. After flashing it is gone.
Please read the UPGRADING FOR BEGINNERS section in the Wiki carefully, even about bootloaders and all that crap before starting to flash!
TAKEN FROM THE HERMES WIKTIONARY in the Wiki section:
CID
The CID (Carrier ID) of the device is a setting which determines which carrier ROMs should be allowed to run on the device, a table of valid CIDs can be found in the wiki pages. All bootloaders (apart from HardSPL and SSPL) will only allow a ROM with the correct CID to be flashed onto the device. A device which has been CID unlocked will have 'SuperCID' which allows ANY ROM to be loaded onto the device, SuperCID also unlocks the Ext_ROM and allows it to be mounted.
SPL
See Bootloader.
SSPL
SSPL is a modified bootloader (by Des) which is loaded into RAM when run, this allows us to overwrite any aspect of the ROM, Radio or Bootloader far easier than using mtty. See the official thread for more info.
Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)
chunkymonkey said:
Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)
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Thanks for this really helpful advice!
I'll try to do some research on this option before doing anything, just to make sure that I know all the options before taking a definite road...
I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.
If all radio functions seem good and reliable you could leave the radio upgrade.
On a 'new radio version' thread try to find any references from a user from your own country, region within that country and provider as regards any radio versions. each new one is simply the most recent that a provider somewhere has brought out. the latest version number by no means that any given phone on X provider in X region of X country will be improved. It could easily be worsened.
Another way to do it, and very long-winded, is to flash the latest radio and, if dissatisfied, go backward thorugh the versions till you get it performing satisfactorily.
If you're happy wwith your radio performance don't change it tbh. Just my opinion on that, some people may differ.
Gatz said:
... I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.
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HardSPL will be permanently written (hard-coded) to your phone! This can be a problem if you have to mail in your phone for service! You would lose your warranty!
SSPL is just temporary for the moment. It executes from the RAM until the flash job is finished. Afterwards it is gone!
BTW: I made some experiments on my 8525:
It was not very difficult to 'undo' HardSPL! I simply took my original shipped ROM image file (nbh) and flashed it entirely with CustomRUU - afterwards HardSPL was gone.
If I ever get a new device I will use SSPL only. All you have to do, is, to copy it to your SD card and run it when you want to flash your device. That makes it only 1 more step compared to having your phone HardSPLed ...
Mmm, considering both your answers, I might go for SSPL, at least for the first time.
I thought that the official HTC update contained also a new radio version, so there should be no difference between carriers... that's a point that confuses me a bit.
I mean, are there HTC radios as opposed to Vodafone radios and so on?
I have to return my UK Vodafone TP2 to HTC but need to know which SPL to put back on. Anyone know which version was originally shipped? 0.79, 0.84 or 0.87?
It’s going back on Fri so I’m really desperate to get this sorted.
Please help!
I got one of the first Vodafone UK TP2's and one of the first things I did was dump the whole ROM including SPL using the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501871
I have the dump here if it will help but it's not like you can just click install, I haven't done anything beyond dumping it.
Maybe an idea if no-one knows the answer off the top of their heads is to get raw dumps of the different SPL versions and see which file matches this one I have here.
Might be on the PC again later if so I will open what I have in a hex editor and see if a version number pops out at me.
If you want the raw dump it's 512k uncompressed so no problem, or if you want md5 hash etc let me know.
Had a look in hex editor, the one I dumped from mine is 0.79.
Whether they all shipped like that I can't say, but mine did.
Mine was 0.79. However, none of the manufacturers have ever mentioned that the Stock SPL was the wrong version - they only complain about Hard SPL's - well no-ones reported them doing that so far.
Ta,
Dave
Cheers all.
Thats a big help.
Hope I'm not without it for too long. Back to my old Nokia 6100 backup for a week or so