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Hey everyone - I've had my Hermes for around a month now, and this forum has made it so much more fun than it would have been otherwise.
In the past, I've run VP3G's 2.0, 3.0, and 3.61, and now I'm running Shamanix's 3.57 with a 6 mb pool. Whenever I go to uninstall a program with the 'remove programs' tool, a message pops up that says 'program was not completely removed.' SKtools will sometimes remove them then, but not often. It's not just one particular program, and it's happened in every ROM i've used. It's aggravating, having to hard reset or reflash every time I want to remove a program. What am I doing wrong here?
you know I just had that same issue with super d lite, never had it happen before. It said after it couldnt be removed would you like to remove it from this list and then I was unable to reselect it so I had to hard reset. It was Custels cing apps. no other program gave me this issue. Im thinking It might be because it was a very light rom and I didnt reflash a carrier rom first went from vp3g to it and didnt do the carrier flash. That is the only thing I could come up with but havent had the time to test it by reflashing a carrier rom, then reflashing super lite and reinstalling custels apps and then trying to unistall to check.
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you know I just had that same issue with super d lite, never had it happen before. It said after it couldnt be removed would you like to remove it from this list and then I was unable to reselect it so I had to hard reset. It was Custels cing apps. no other program gave me this issue. Im thinking It might be because it was a very light rom and I didnt reflash a carrier rom first went from vp3g to it and didnt do the carrier flash. That is the only thing I could come up with but havent had the time to test it by reflashing a carrier rom, then reflashing super lite and reinstalling custels apps and then trying to unistall to check.
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So are you saying going from one custom ROM to another custom ROM without going to a carrier ROM in between may be causing the problem?
it is a possibility, i have not explored it yet but its the only thing that i have noticed that i did different
If WinMobile works the same as WinXP or Win Vista then all the message means is that some elements of the programme were not removed.
Most times this has happened to me I simply go into the program files folder, find the folder that contained the proramme I just deleted (be careful here), delete it, and job's a good un.
No need for hard resets, flashing carrier roms in betweem cooked roms, praying at the temple of your god before reflashing, and so on.
WB
Hi,
I've flashed my HTC Tytn a couple of times, with a "slim" wm6 in order to get rid of all the operator related stuff. Everything went fine, until 2 days after, the PDA jamed, i soft reset it, and when it started up, it asked me to align the screen. It was completly empty (same thing as a hard reset).
Then, i flashed the latest TNT series ROM to it, and, next day, same thing.
But today i've seen what happened. When i clicked the start button, it only showed the "recent programs" list. I soft reseted it, and, align the screen, once again.
This is really anoying.... any ideas?
Thanks in advance. Any kind of help appreciated....
This has been discussed in many threads.
you will need to flash a manufacturers rom (AT&T seems the best) and then flash your rom of choice.
it is best to flash via activesync, not sd card.
if it continues to cause problems, then let us know.
Oh... ok! I'll try that..
Thanks,
Fonzi
Hello,
Does someone else have a similar problem?
Intro: some month ago I have successfully flashed my first HardSPL (1.40 OliNex), new radio (Radio v1.00.25.05) and several ROMs. Usually I flashed them directly from internal memory since I’ve found this way quite comfortable and IMHO also safer.
However, for flashing this way you have to able enter your bootloader...
And this is my first problem: after entering my bootloader I’ll get (after a while and a short show up of bootloader’s colorful screen) a grey screen with a message Trigger usb host…
After a while it is getting even scratches … and search and search ... so the only soft reset helps.
Does somebody possibly have a similar experience? Any tips?
FYI: my last ROM was A.Z.T.O.R. V7, however I admit, I didn’t make any hard reset after flashing (due to a mistake). Now I wanted to install a Duttys ROM. Since he recommends a newer version of HardSPL (1.93) I’ve been trying to upgrade… btw can somebody tell me where I can find it!? (I know where is the link, I have downloaded it personaly several times from differenet places, however there’s always written “signed” version on the *.nbh file! Is btw 1.93 signed version only?
And why can I see always just 1.40 in bootloader even when I’ve flashed 1.93 already?
And however I should rather ask this question Duttty personaly in his threat, why there is mentioned in bootloader ROM version 1.99 for V3.1 Duttys ROM?
Can you help me please to get out of this mess?
Many thanks in advance!
Regards, Marek
PS: Very last important question: when should I make the hard reset after flashing? Since it seems that my button tricky thing doesn really work, I am able to reset my XDA just from the menu... is there any problem? (When letting the system to start up properly first?)
I've read lots of comments, these very unwanted random hard-resets are suppose to be a common bug, however the suggested fixes dont seem to work for me, anyone else having the same issue?
Note: The issue must be software related, it only started happening to me immediately after a ROM update a few months back.
What usually happens:
- Install a ROM -> Configure It -> Install Apps... all looks good
- At some random point (could be days or weeks) the phone will lock up (usually on the password screen)
- A soft reset is required to rectify the lock-up
(i.e. the red button on back of phone)
- Phone hard-resets itself
Suggested Solutions:
1) Upgrade to HardSPL 1.93 - made no difference
2) I have tried running MTTY a few times, also no difference
3) Try different ROM's, I thought it might be just a bug with the WWE ROM, but it happens with the Energy ROM too
Just out of interest:
Interestingly, my wifes phone, which I do exactly the same updates on (same phone, same ROM, same Radio, etc), is working completely fine...
Hi
i had the same problem...for solve the problem, just flash the stock rom...you can download from htc website...than you can flash any rom you like and everytjing will work fine.
for any help just ask!
businello2000 said:
Hi
i had the same problem...for solve the problem, just flash the stock rom...you can download from htc website...than you can flash any rom you like and everytjing will work fine.
for any help just ask!
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Hi, thanks for suggestion, although yep I tried that too. There is no stock ROM for an imported phone on Optus, but I just used the stock Telstra one that was on the forums, then after a while went back to the WWE ROM, and the same issue still occurs.
No other ideas for resolving the hard reset issues?
Next time it happens, I might try pulling the battery out instead of using the reset button on the back of the phone.. but clearly something is wrong :-/
i have had this a couple of times, about 6 months ago and last week. i just flashed a different ROM, flashing the same one again didnt help, so just downloaded a different one and went with that.
seems to be ok now
flash this rom and do a hard reset after flashing:
http://uploading.com/files/WY03RBG2/Stock rom noSPL no Radio.rar.html
I've also posted the same link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4057376&postcount=3
matrix77 said:
flash this rom and do a hard reset after flashing:
http://uploading.com/files/WY03RBG2/Stock rom noSPL no Radio.rar.html
I've also posted the same link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4057376&postcount=3
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Thanks again for suggestions so far, but above fix only lasted about 5 days before another intermittent phone crash & subsequent hard reset, much the same as I have had experimenting with a range of stock and other ROM's :-/
I don't think the fix is as simple as just putting a Stock Rom -> Hard Reset -> MTTY -> New Rom -> Hard Reset. Im pretty sure its a software problem, but I dont see how the problem can survive such rigorous formatting...
Is noone else having the problem? Sounds like most are solved with 1 use of MTTY.
I searched a lot and found your thread.
I was upgrading my friend's Diamond, when he tells me that it hard resets itself without a reason. At first I thought it was the ROM's problem, so I switched to another one. But after I flashed the ROM, during the process of setting up the phone (settings, softwares), at some random point of installing random software, the phone says that the software was not installed successfully. After several re-flash, re-install, and ROM switching, it appears to me it's not a software problem.
It seems that it's at some point when the internal storage (not the NaviNAND) reaches a specific size, the device would fail and hangs (or not, randomly, but you can't install anything further), after a soft-reset, it will hard resets itself instead, it looks like some "badblocks" (sort of) on the internal storage NAND to me.
Is there a way to figure out if my theory's correct? I'm wondering if there is any tool that can run some diagnose on the internal NAND. If I'm correct and there is tool that can do so, it must have the ability to mask the bad pages on the NAND, right?
EDIT: There's a way to re-produce the situation. Just download some big apps (several MBs big) and install them in order. It will almost always hang at the same point.
The only solution is:
1st MTTY and run task 29 to format the device to make it clean and no left over stuff from the last ROM.
2nd Install different ROM
If you have bad sectors in the device, MTTY might not help much here, I guess.
Hi maddie, yes you might be onto something, I assume you already tried the usual fixes: (Stock Rom -> Hard Reset -> MTTY -> New Rom -> Hard Reset)? You can tell it to format the NaviNAND during the hard reset.
I think my issue might be different to yours though, as mine does not happen 'when installing software' mine happens days/weeks after setting up the phone.. It usually goes down like this: I pull the phone out of my pocket -> its locked on the password screen usually (cant type) -> pull the battery out or press the soft-reset button -> bang.. phone hard-resets.
I will make 1 suggestion though, instead of using all the nice fancy mods, and SPB Mobile Shell (looks like sense ui), I went back to a boring old stock rom, and well after 1 month its still going.. I absolutely hate it, but I dont want to buy another phone quite yet, so gonna go old-skool.
Let me know how you go, and as above if you did all the standard suggestions? It sounds like you need to somehow instruct the phone not to use those bad memory spots, but ive no idea if such a tool exists im afraid.
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I searched a lot and found your thread.
I was upgrading my friend's Diamond, when he tells me that it hard resets itself without a reason. At first I thought it was the ROM's problem, so I switched to another one. But after I flashed the ROM, during the process of setting up the phone (settings, softwares), at some random point of installing random software, the phone says that the software was not installed successfully. After several re-flash, re-install, and ROM switching, it appears to me it's not a software problem.
It seems that it's at some point when the internal storage (not the NaviNAND) reaches a specific size, the device would fail and hangs (or not, randomly, but you can't install anything further), after a soft-reset, it will hard resets itself instead, it looks like some "badblocks" (sort of) on the internal storage NAND to me.
Is there a way to figure out if my theory's correct? I'm wondering if there is any tool that can run some diagnose on the internal NAND. If I'm correct and there is tool that can do so, it must have the ability to mask the bad pages on the NAND, right?
EDIT: There's a way to re-produce the situation. Just download some big apps (several MBs big) and install them in order. It will almost always hang at the same point.
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I got the same problem recently and I am still trying different way to solve it.
My Hard-reset happen:
After flashing new rom -> Installation of software ->
-> launching programs -> when some got may holding or loading without response
-> Soft-reset (red bottom) -> It automatically Hard-reset....
Similar thinking with you, I think that maybe one of those reasons leading the hard reset:
1. Device got bad sector while flashing for different roms;
2. New Radios got bug and crash with the new version of roms;
3. Too many things stored in Internal Storage;
kenleekwanho said:
1. Device got bad sector while flashing for different roms;
2. New Radios got bug and crash with the new version of roms;
3. Too many things stored in Internal Storage;
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I like this logic, im in the position of owning 2 HTC Diamonds with identical ROM, Radio, Applications, 1 works perfectly, 1 is resetting.
It 'probably' indicates that its hardware related, I doubt its Radio (due to the other phone working fine), so could be Internal Storage or Bad Sector.
Im not even close to filling up my internal storage though, so if its storage related, perhaps a particular sector is the problem (like maddie was mentioning).
Thanks for all your opinions!
It's the first time for me to think it's the Radio's problem. It comes to me now it seems this situation starts when I flashed the 1.15.25.14 radio. I will try another radio and update here.
I dont 'think' its Radio, but worth a shot.
I cant consistently reproduce my issue, so it could take me a month to find out if ive fixed the issue.. and there are a lot of variables in a month. But sounds like you have a way of reproducing it consistently, gl.
OK, it doesn't seem to work. I think that's it..
Maybe I should start looking at the bootloader commands..
ive got the same issue, but only with some ROMs, for example, the AZTOR X3 and GEN.Y D2 didnt work, but gen.y 1.4 worked for me.
I tried MTTY method to re-flashing, it seems fine to my diamond right now.
i have the same problem, i have tried about 10 different roms, but i don't think it's software related, i think it might be the phone overheating causing a faulty component, it started 2 days ago for me and usually after 5-10 min it crashes, and it started happening when the weather heated up and it will crash quicker if i try to charge it, anyone notice this?
Has anyone found a solution to this?
For me it started when I installed the Gen Y rom with the android dual booter (but not android itself). I have tried MTTY, Stock ROM but Im still experiencing the problem. I suspect it has something to do with the dual boot.
I get the same thing. soft reset = hard reset.
I have tried several ROMs but now the phone hangs on the loading screen
I'd like to ask those wishing help with troubleshooting to please help us to help you.
When reporting a problem it is useful to get as much information as possible, the more information we have, the easier it is to help.
Is it running from SD or Nand.
What radio version.
What build are you having the problem with.
What kernel/nbh are you using.
If you can, try to post any error messages.
Please try to post your questions in the thread for the build you are having issues with, it's more likely to get noticed there, and other users of that build may have the solution you need.
All this information saves a lot of time, and helps cut down on confusion, especially the SD/Nand part.
I have trouble with signal, it's weak than WM, when I used WM my radio is 1.65, I'm up to 1.71.09.01 and flash Android (NAND menthod) and the signal so weak
So Android support radio 1.65??? I want to back 1.65
I'm using TYTN 2 Kaiser _ WarmDonut version
Another Qs:
Q.How can I use my fone like a modem? I see in Menu have Modem but I don't know how to connect with my PC as a modem
Q.How can I connect to my PC via Wifi ad-hoc? (if available, please guide step by step- because I'm... chicken )
Q.GPS so slow and weak (in Vietnam)
Q.It so hard to power off (It's hang)
Best regard
I had issues with 1.71.xx radios too, and went back to 1.65.21.14 and my signal was good once more.
To change radio, download the radio you wish to use from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182, post 3 has the download links you need.
Once you have it downloaded, rename the ruu_signed.nbh to kaisimg.nbh and copy to SD card, flash using the power+camera method you used to flash the nand nbh, you will not have to reinstall Android when you do this.
The modem in question refers to the gprs modem used for data, it should be possible to use the phone as a modem, but as far as I know this is not working properly yet.
Not sure if you can do this either, I know wifi works for data transmission, but accessing the computer this way with android may not be possible, yet.
Gps problems may depend on which nbh you have installed, some of the more recent nbh's perform better than older ones. I'd recommend Kallt_Kaffes NBH's as I know these are quite good for gps, for me at least. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=660158, you will need to load the nbh into the editor and set the correct panel type, keyboard, and 3d type, ( donut in your case), then save as kaisimg.nbh and copy to SD and flash using power+camera, again this will not affect your android install.
Power off issues may be nbh related also, however this can still happen anyway, usually pulling out the battery will sort out the reboot issues.
many thank for quick reply, I love Android on my phone
thank you again
I was wondering what steps to take when the android loader gets stuck in a loop, when I install andriod right after install it boots fine but when I try to boot second time, after andriod appears on the bottom of the screen it will go into some kind of loop. I have tried different radios and a different version of hardspl, and a few nbh panels as well as reinstalling the system, any help would greatly appreciated.
Phone: AT&T Branded TILT
OS: Nand w/Incubus Super Froyo Installed
Radio: 1.70.18.02
NBH: kaisimg-panel2-320-tilt-froyo-07-07-10
HardSPL: v3.34.hard
Everything looks fine, although I haven't used that particular build, however bootloops are commonly build or kernel related.
Have you tried other builds? Or is it just this build that does this?
Generally panel type only affects the display on the screen itself, or sometimes problems with sleep mode.
Since you have a froyo kernel installed, maybe you could install this build to see if it helps? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724821
Yeah I have tried other Froyo builds and they worked, but I just like the way Super Froyo build is put together. But if it is the build then its is the build. Oh well maybe next release. Ok thank you for your time, guess I will give the GZO build or the one you suggested a try.
Installed the kernel you suggested, it works. It boot looped once, then I cleared the dalvik cache and it booted again after install. I don't know if that is what it is used for, but it worked after that.
It is a awesome build, battery life works correctly, signal is good with radio, and wi-fi works good. But I had one more questions.
1. What is up with live wallpapers, on some builds I have used some work on one build but not the other, I have looked through the forums, but can find no solution for this. Is it because of the amount of RAM in the TILT as I saw somewhere or is there a fix. Even in this build when I try to load a live wallpaper on a couple of them is just stays on wallpaper loading and stay black screen.
I would like to take a minute to thank the people that make this awesome stuff, now my TILT has more current software than my BACKFLIP, so my older phone is now newer than my new phone, and I would also like to thank the people who help others out on this forum, I don't think a lot of people like myself would get anywhere without your help.
Forgot to mention dalvik cache. oops, ah well, you found it anyway
It's another of those occasionally useful things, like fix permissions, I have used it before to fix unusual behaviour, but not tried it on a bootloop.
Live wallpapers are usually pretty buggy at best, it's complicated, memory is one problem, cpu speed another, and 3d handling yet another, some wallpapers work ok, but slow, others just won't, ever. I just delete them before install, along with a few other minor customisations such as deleting a few ringtones and notification sounds, changing boot animations, nothing that affects the core of the build, just personalising a bit
I'm using:
1)incubus's Super Eclair 6.1, with the downgraded settings.apk which enables wifi (another member offered the settings.apk from a previous version (3, I think) as an androidupdate.tar)
2) Currently radio 1.71.09.01 (thinking of switching to 1.65.21.18 to improve reception)
3.) Currently using the latest Dzo kernel for eclair (07-02-2010, I think)
My problem is that my data connection doesn't work (and this has been an issue on just about every release, save for one Froyo install where the data autostarted once, and then I never saw a 2g/3g notification and mobile internet didn't work).
I'm currently in India, and I've used the correct APN settings (they have worked on other phones including Nokias, iPhone, and a USB modem). I've tried asking the question in the SuperEclair vogue thread, but alas, no love. I'd really appreciate if you could help me on this, or at least guide me in the right direction, because android (especially eclair) is too awesome to abandon for this single issue.
By the way, everything else works, Wifi (with the mentioned update), GPS, Voice, and SuperEclair is the fastest that I've found so far.
I have seen a number of issues with data such as this, and i'm afraid none have had a truly satisfying resolution.
However I would try:
Downgrade the radio as planned, this may help, and certainly won't hurt.
Boot to installer, and run fix permissions and clear dalvik cache, this has been known to fix various issues, not certain why yet.
Double check the apn settings, especially the MCC and MCN settings, a lot of online guides seem to miss these two, but they are important.
Not sure where to point you after this, apart from a long trawl through the thread here, however if you do get it resolved please post back, and if not, try another post on it in the build thread, along with the steps you have taken to resolve it, it may convince someone to have a closer look at this issue.
data connection
I too have had this problem after installing a recent froyo build to nand....I had checked no.start data when flashing dzo's latest kernel using nbh editor and had to reset my apn settings. Remember to open your modem utility and press connect twice....this actually starts the connection......Radio type could also be an issue..Ive had good luck with the 165's with 2 different froyo builds....Hope this helps.....
Thanks for the replies! I'm going to try this out (need to recharge the data service on my prepaid) but one thing I did notice was that the MNC/MMC were different that those listed on my providers website. Hopefully this will help.
I have tried to switch on the data using the modem utility, and the utility itself says that data is connected, but it never really worked. In settings, there is an on/off switch for mobile internet, and a mobile internet settings. When I click the on/off switch, then mobile internet just goes gray and does nothing. I'll try to post back to the Super Eclair vogue board, but I think that Incubus might have moved on...
I'll update once I get my gprs service paid up. Again, thanks for the help!
The process com.android.phone has stopped
Those are my first Android experiences, so I`ve got problems .
Phone : Kaiser (TyTN II)
OS : Win Mo 6 Profess (original-not flashed)
Radio : 1.27.15.32
I`m trying to install Android on the SD card, without additional partitioning. I`m currently trying this Android version : Eclair 2.1 for Kaiser/Vogue/Polaris -- polymod 2.1 gamma [Based on OpenEclair 1.2.2 (XDA thread)]
and using this too : How to run Polymod’s AWESOME 2.1 Eclare Build and Updates (the forum didn`t allow me to post links for the Android versions). I`ve tryed this too : VaniljEclair RLS7c - A fast and stable CM 5.0.8 for Vogue/Kaiser/Polaris [2010-07-02] - the same result
I`ve done everything according the instructions... Starting Haret.. Hit D-Pad, Install, clear data... etc. etc... It actually starts to install... and everything seems fine... At some point it brings me again the install menu, I`m hitting exit, and then come some errors ?!? I forgot to type them down... Something like that some files cannot be found... And after rolling errors for a while the Android actually boots ! But then come errors too... At the first time it brings me the dial pad to enter my pin-code... I entered it , but it says it is wrong...I wasn`t wrong ofc . For the next time I simply disabled my pin in Win Mobile and try again... After the Android booted it says : The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again. , and some button like "cancel" or something like that. I'm hitting it , the Android guy appears and a message " Hit the android to begin" with a hand pointing it. I`m hitting the android - nothing happened !
I`ll be greatfull if someone can help me , or at least give me some clues !
Thank you .
p.s. sorry for my english... not my native language ;-)
Your problems are mainly in the OS version, 6.0 is not recent enough to run Android, and the radio version will also give problems, my advice would be to update to the most recent stock version, which would enable you to run Android.
This would of course wipe your present installed OS and a more recent version may or may not exist for your language, ( with the wiki down I can't be more specific with which files would suit you best).
Thanks
zenity said:
Your problems are mainly in the OS version, 6.0 is not recent enough to run Android, and the radio version will also give problems, my advice would be to update to the most recent stock version, which would enable you to run Android.
This would of course wipe your present installed OS and a more recent version may or may not exist for your language, ( with the wiki down I can't be more specific with which files would suit you best).
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Thank you for your fast response . But I`ve tryed (I`ve tryed again today) before to download an official WinMo 6.1 ROM from HTC_com , but according to my TyTN II`s serial number , they said : "Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device". And I want an original ROM... I`m not sure that I can manage to flash a cooked one on my HTC . So I guess I`ll stay with the original WinMo 6.0 withut Android .
Thanks anyway
To flash a cooked rom you would need HardSPL, it is possible to do this for WM 6.0.
Regarding an upgrade to WM6.1, this too should be possible, I'd tend to disregard the warnings about upgrades being 'unsuitable'. The unavailability of certain upgrades is more to do with them being designed for certain providers or areas, rather than their actual unsuitability for the device itself.
If you have a need for a language specific rom this too is probably available from another source, if the wiki was available then there is a table of rom upgrades that would almost certainly contain just what you would need.
Note that the wiki links are all official HTC roms, and would not need HardSPL.
@Zenity - You had given me some advice on getting the gprs working on my eclair install (Eclair problems/Android problems thread). Well, I ended up ditching Super Eclair for polymod 2.1d, and mobile data started working out of the box (which is odd, because it wasn't really working before, but who am I to question?!). Now my only issue is that if I activate wifi without first deactivating mobile data, then wifi gets caught in a loop and won't connect (i.e "Connecting, obtaining address, unsuccessful, connecting, obtaining address, unsuccessful" and on on on...). Then if I try to deactivate data or wifi, both get grayed out and say turning off, but never do. I'm fairly positive this is some conflict between data and wifi, because I've connected to the same AP without any issues while the data connection is off. Regardless, this is the most fully functional implementation that I've found. Still playing around, now that I have the time I'm diving a little further into tweaking and hacking through these releases.
Thanks for the help man. I've been on xda-devs since I first got this Att Tilt, mainly reading and learning, but I've noticed that a fair number of people don't take the time to further explicate and help people through problems and troubleshooting. You and kallt_kafee are both awesome when it comes to responding to less knowledgable users, and I for one really appreciate it. So Cheers, bro!
Thanks matcha, the main reason I still find polymod 2.1D my build of choice is that of them all, it just works, all the other builds do to, but I have found less issues from users on Polymod than the other builds, perhaps it's age has something to do with it, it has less 'new' features than the others, so less to go wrong, and perhaps also that it has grown with the whole android on kaiser project.
Anyway, appreciate the vote of confidence, really I'm just trying to give back a small measure of what Xda-Developers has given me