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Windows live &WM6 WiFi

Hello,
i have noticed that windows live ignor my wifi connection and alwayes start establishing gprs but when i cancel it it goes back to wifi and use it instead. how can i make it use wifi as default?
please note that all other application uses wifi when available except windows live (messenger, hotmail, etc...)
thanks.

I don't think you can the official word on the subject is that WiFi drains your battery much faster than gprs and hence it will always use gprs. I just have to remember to turn off the phone before Windows Live.
Its a bit of a pain, but hey, what can you do...

Can anyone enlighten us all?
3guk said:
I don't think you can the official word on the subject is that WiFi drains your battery much faster than gprs and hence it will always use gprs. I just have to remember to turn off the phone before Windows Live.
Its a bit of a pain, but hey, what can you do...
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Yeah, I noticed that too. Strange that. I was always under the impression that turning-off your phone (putting it into flight-mode) renders all radio communication, bluetooth, phone & wi-fi incapable of being used!?!? Never actually tried though, but then what's the point of 'Flight-Mode'?
I would have thought that a registry tweak could resolve this, but I'm not that competent as these things.

using Jwrightmcps's wm6 rom for mda pro i've been able to connect to my wifi network, but the device wont make use of it (my gprs is not setup during this testing)
ammar whoes rom are you using?

Battlestorm said:
using Jwrightmcps's wm6 rom for mda pro i've been able to connect to my wifi network, but the device wont make use of it (my gprs is not setup during this testing)
ammar whoes rom are you using?
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i am using Jwrightmcps's wm6 .08 ROM
can people who are using JW's previous ROM confirm if they having the same issue?

i am using Jwrightmcps's wm6 .08 ROM.
I was able to use windows live with Wifi, but after I configured the GPRS, it would not connect with wifi because gprs was off.
I deleted the GPRS and after I was able to sign in but no contacts were shown on messenger.
Still under investigation....

ammar said:
i am using Jwrightmcps's wm6 .08 ROM
can people who are using JW's previous ROM confirm if they having the same issue?
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it's not an issue with Jwright's ROM, it's the way Windows Live is configured by M$. If you read any of the WM6 threads, you'll see there is a CAB to disable the GPRS autoconnect. Just click on the attachments of pretty much any WM6 thread and you'll find it.

SpyderTracks said:
it's not an issue with Jwright's ROM, it's the way Windows Live is configured by M$. If you read any of the WM6 threads, you'll see there is a CAB to disable the GPRS autoconnect. Just click on the attachments of pretty much any WM6 thread and you'll find it.
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will try it. thanks for your advice.

ammar said:
will try it. thanks for your advice.
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Did the cab work for you? I was reading and it said that the cab would disable GPRS all together and not just for windows live.

WM6 Live Messenger not using wifi

Hi,
Can anyone help me, this is doing my head in! When I am connected to wifi I can browse the internet with IE but as soon as I try and sign in with messenger it tries to connect over gprs.
If i delete all my gprs settings and just have a wifi connection live failes to connect at all.
Any ideas?
Cheers

Yes there is a solution to your problem and its quite simple.
Don't use WML.
This has been a long standing bug with live messenger and Microsoft has not fixed it.
I suggest you use the older and more convenient Pocket Messenger which does not have this issue.
Up to you!

I belive the issue is fixed in .2600 build. At least mine works just fine, while .1100 build was insisting on using GPRS connection.

mutabor said:
I belive the issue is fixed in .2600 build. At least mine works just fine, while .1100 build was insisting on using GPRS connection.
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Your are right, it also let you choose if you want to sync your MSN contact with your phone contact.
This new build correct most of the flaw of the previous one

Thank you!!!!!!!!

easy 2 fix.
disable your phone, connect wifi, connect messenger over wifi, then re-enable the phone.
should continue to use the wifi....
but as soon as you go out of wifi range, or disable itwill want to use gprs/3g. so sign out 1st.

By the way, I'm looking for build .2600 CAB and I cannot find one. I would appreciate if someone could send me a download link.
Thanks.

mutabor said:
By the way, I'm looking for build .2600 CAB and I cannot find one. I would appreciate if someone could send me a download link.
Thanks.
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Same here..........

Auto disconnect GPRS/WiFi when not in use?

Hi!
Is there something that could auto disconnect GPRS/WiFi, lets say after 10 min, if it wasn't used?
I wanted setup to check for new mail every 2 hours, and it connects to GPRS and then it stays connected forever, draining the battery without purpose...
Thank you.

I found one for WM5, and not sure if it will work for WM6...
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm

[email protected] said:
Hi!
Is there something that could auto disconnect GPRS/WiFi, lets say after 10 min, if it wasn't used?
I wanted setup to check for new mail every 2 hours, and it connects to GPRS and then it stays connected forever, draining the battery without purpose...
Thank you.
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Yeah, or something that the connection isnt reconnecting after i said DISCONNECT :/

Check this great little app, it syncs your Outlook accounts when you want and disconnects the data after...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316696

m0nkm0nk said:
Yeah, or something that the connection isnt reconnecting after i said DISCONNECT :/
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Yes, this is the first and I must add the most annoying thing that I've experienced in WM6 (never had this in WM5), especially when you don't have unlimited data plan - that reconnection is just ridiculous.
It actually made me go back to WM5 for a while, until I decided give WM6 another chance. Hopefully I was able pinpoint what make it connect all the time - Windows Live service, specifically Windows Live Messenger. Basically you have to manually logout from the messenger before you close it, otherwise it will just minimize itself when you thought you closed it.
Or just don't use it...
@Sane:
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) I don't use Outlook and that app is pretty much useless for me, but sure it might be useful for others.
Speaking of Outlook, is there another good alternative to it which we could use to manage contacts? (not necessarily use it to sync with WM6 contacts directly, but perhaps be able export them to another format that later could be imported in WM6)
I've tryed NSContacts which is pretty good, if you can remmember all the time how to avoid some very nasty bugs in it that could make your 1 hour organizing contact be waste of time and you have to start over.

the best options
bandswitch or commgrpro by dan herrerra.
commmgrpro.com
these are both excellent.

[email protected] said:
I found one for WM5, and not sure if it will work for WM6...
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
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this program is not working on my HTC P3600 with WM6.1...
have someone encountered the same problem?

try reading this : http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/03/19/auto-disconnect-gprs-on-ppc.html

wmIRC

I've downloaded and installed the trial for wmIRC and it's working fine over WIFI on my HTC S621, but I can't get it to work over GPRS\EDGE ? I can use IE and Opera Mini without the WIFI.
Any ideas of what I can try, or are there other Windows Mobile Smartphone Standard IRC clients I could try?
Thank you,
Tim

tmcdoniel said:
I've downloaded and installed the trial for wmIRC and it's working fine over WIFI on my HTC S621, but I can't get it to work over GPRS\EDGE ? I can use IE and Opera Mini without the WIFI.
Any ideas of what I can try, or are there other Windows Mobile Smartphone Standard IRC clients I could try?
Thank you,
Tim
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make sure you start an edge connection before trying to log onto irc. i use wmirc daily and works through either connection. just open a browser and go to a website to initiate the data connection (for some reason wmirc will initiate *sometimes* and not others) then open irc and just hit connect. may take a sec to go through the ident and ****...but it gets there...

gixxum said:
make sure you start an edge connection before trying to log onto irc. i use wmirc daily and works through either connection. just open a browser and go to a website to initiate the data connection (for some reason wmirc will initiate *sometimes* and not others) then open irc and just hit connect. may take a sec to go through the ident and ****...but it gets there...
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I've tried that, no luck. I don't have the ident option checked, but I never need it for WIFI. I'm just wondering if it's my carrier, Suncom blocking it. It's just strange to me that my email, IE, mini-opera, etc. works. But not this.
I'm looking now to see if I can find a way to link (or echo) messages over to an instant messenger ID. Because I know that I can get Palringo or some other IM client to work.
Thank you,
Tim

tmcdoniel said:
I've tried that, no luck. I don't have the ident option checked, but I never need it for WIFI. I'm just wondering if it's my carrier, Suncom blocking it. It's just strange to me that my email, IE, mini-opera, etc. works. But not this.
I'm looking now to see if I can find a way to link (or echo) messages over to an instant messenger ID. Because I know that I can get Palringo or some other IM client to work.
Thank you,
Tim
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I wasnt so much talking about enabling indent..i was just talking about when you connect to the server and i queries the client..
what version of wmirc is it?

This probably doesn't help much but I have it working fine on another device over CDMA.
Honestly, prepare to be disappointed though. Its a very buggy program. The user lists tend to disappear, sometimes a new pm opens and switching from one to the next shows the same messages, and it randomly completely crashes.
There's also zsIRC at zsirc.com. However, this is many written for WM Pro, so there's a lot of things that you can't do if you don't have a touchscreen (also, you can't install the .cab on WM Standard and need to use the .exe installer.)

i agree. but for smartphone its really the only one that works. ive tried 3. wmirc, jirc and some other one that i cant remember.
as far as just chattin in a channel, its fine. ive had it up with no disconnects on the edge network for 8 hours. with wifi i have left on for days and it never crashed or disconnected. yea the user list is a little retarded, but thats a non issue for me. you can still use basic commands like /whois . i dont think its ever going to get better than this though. as far as i know, no one else is developing a new client.
so i guess just pick the lesser poison..if you want to run it through java (which i couldnt stand) try out jirc.
shoot me a pm and let me know what version you have. i will probably just give you a link to my site and you can try the one i have because i know it works. im running 6.1 rickys v. 24

I'm just using the standard 2.2 from the wmirc.com site.

msn live messenger problem

who is also having problems with wlm messenger? tried various versions and disabled the proxy settings but still no luck. Through outlook i can sync email, but not the messenger program for chat.
i use t-mobile and the wlm gives me an error that it can not connect to messenger and it could be the service or my phone, and that i have to try it later

I have had that issue too but it was in a poor network coverage area, when in a good area (even on standard GPRS) it seems to be pretty stable.

Adult content blocker
Hi
I've just switched to T-Mob UK from Orange UK. My sim switches over tomorrow so I've no actual experience to go from but the cust service guy said that their adult content blocker also block IM applications so needs to be removed. You can do this through T-Mob cust service.
Hope that helps, and that I don't have the same problem from tomorrow!
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

I'm also living in the Netherlands, using T-Mobile and I have the exact same problem.
On another site somebody sent me another version of WLM for the device, but after installing that my entire TouchFlo 3D was gone! (Fortunately uninstalling the version fixed the issue again.) But still I cannot get a connection.
Internet is not the problem as I'm using the phone as my internet connection the entire day.

Oops...the initial version has been uninstalled as well now!
Found it again...

andrew-in-woking said:
Hi
I've just switched to T-Mob UK from Orange UK. My sim switches over tomorrow so I've no actual experience to go from but the cust service guy said that their adult content blocker also block IM applications so needs to be removed. You can do this through T-Mob cust service.
Hope that helps, and that I don't have the same problem from tomorrow!
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
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Ahh thats a really good point, that was one of the first things I did when I got my new contract! lol
Yeah get it unblocked and the world is your oyster.

Try disabling the proxy for T-Mobile, this worked for me.
John

Also check date is correct, sometimes if date is not well you cant connect
Here a thread with multiple versions of live messenger:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334621&highlight=live+messenger
Hope it helps,

elroy944 said:
who is also having problems with wlm messenger? tried various versions and disabled the proxy settings but still no luck. Through outlook i can sync email, but not the messenger program for chat.
i use t-mobile and the wlm gives me an error that it can not connect to messenger and it could be the service or my phone, and that i have to try it later
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I have the same problem also in the netherlands on t-mobile network

I tried to connect while connected to my WLAN and it returns the same error message!
How can I determine what version I have?

Install the newest version (there is a new one out just a few hours)
I also have T-mobile (ben). I have no problems with messenger, though I have an older version. Ik know I have a HTC hermes (hopefully soon the TP2) but this seems a network problem. Are your settings right?
I only get the messsage when the network signal is low. THis can be in some houses (because of the build of the house, in trainstation (metal frame surrounding you) etc. (I have no problems in my house though).
My settings for BEN: name: Internet
accespoint name: internet.ben
Are you or the other person offline? did you leave msn on at you desktop?
it probably is just the bad network quality. Try it at a diffrent place outside.

quarintus said:
Install the newest version (there is a new one out just a few hours)
I also have T-mobile (ben). I have no problems with messenger, though I have an older version. Ik know I have a HTC hermes (hopefully soon the TP2) but this seems a network problem. Are your settings right?
I only get the messsage when the network signal is low. THis can be in some houses (because of the build of the house, in trainstation (metal frame surrounding you) etc. (I have no problems in my house though).
My settings for BEN: name: Internet
accespoint name: internet.ben
Are you or the other person offline? did you leave msn on at you desktop?
it probably is just the bad network quality. Try it at a diffrent place outside.
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i installed an old version wich is working now, but you say there is just a new version out? do you know the version number?

I installed the lates version. This time TF3D did start automatically after restarting and everything is working!
So, I guess that's the fix!

can someone give me the link to the latest one?
are there any changes? or still the simple layout with less features

disable proxy
Hi all
disabling the Proxy worked for me on T-Mobile UK.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking