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Will we see WM6 for HTC Trinity ?!

Everybody these days is discussing the upcoming GPS ROM for our favorite Trinity, but the next question is: will a new ROM come out to upgrade our baby to the newly announced Windows Mobile 6.0 ?

WM6?
mo7al said:
Everybody these days is discussing the upcoming GPS ROM for our favorite Trinity, but the next question is: will a new ROM come out to upgrade our baby to the newly announced Windows Mobile 6.0 ?
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Will keep my fingers crossed and hope for it ... On the Himalayas & Blue Angels which started off as WM2003, there are ROMS (unofficial) for WM2003SE, WM5 (latest AKU 3.5) while on the Magician it has always stuck on WM2003SE.
So in short, pray hard. I will join you in praying as I would love to have WM6 on my trinity as well ;-)
PS : Now we got the GPS to work on the trinity, any luck to 'enable' the FM radio as well? There has been speculation on the FM Radio being available on the Trinity. :-D that would make this one of the most feature packed PPC on earth ..

I agree. I don't see Trinity's successor being released anytime soon so they should just go ahead with keeping their latest phone up to date.
As for the FM radio, hell yeah, if it's there, why the hell not enable it? Oh, wait, don't tell me... is the FM radio conflicting with the Bluetooth?

i do also keep my fingers crossed!!

forcedalias said:
I agree. I don't see Trinity's successor being released anytime soon so they should just go ahead with keeping their latest phone up to date.
As for the FM radio, hell yeah, if it's there, why the hell not enable it? Oh, wait, don't tell me... is the FM radio conflicting with the Bluetooth?
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if we can DUMP an original Hong Kong ROM from Trinity we can make a FM Radio test with European or American version

mo7al said:
Everybody these days is discussing the upcoming GPS ROM for our favorite Trinity, but the next question is: will a new ROM come out to upgrade our baby to the newly announced Windows Mobile 6.0 ?
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I can create WM6 Rom for Trinity! But now mamich tools work incorrectly with Hermes & Trinity!
addfile.exe not working with Trin & Herm

lvsw said:
I can create WM6 Rom for Trinity! But now mamich tools work incorrectly with Hermes & Trinity!
addfile.exe not working with Trin & Herm
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Where did you get the build files? Is there an image for the windows device emulator too?
edit: Found it!
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...74-18b7-4af8-9fe1-0de049b6b3e9&DisplayLang=en

lvsw said:
I can create WM6 Rom for Trinity! But now mamich tools work incorrectly with Hermes & Trinity!
addfile.exe not working with Trin & Herm
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Would be great!

greatsokol said:
Would be great!
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Would be great if mamaich create new build "mamich tools" with new addfile.exe
Without new version addfile.exe I can't create new FirWare

Floriz said:
Where did you get the build files? Is there an image for the windows device emulator too?
edit: Found it!
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...74-18b7-4af8-9fe1-0de049b6b3e9&DisplayLang=en
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I think theres a fair chance of a WM6 tom given that the Trinity is reasonably new, from all accounts there is no Trinity successor on the horizon, and with all their variants im sure the Hermes/Trinity will recieve user-made WM6s.
Fingers crossed anyway.

Fingers crossed for all that bought it sure, but there ARE trinity/tytn successors in the horizon.
For example look for HTC Kaiser, a thinner Tytn with GPS (i.e. everything that tytn and trinity is now).

Don't expect an official update. This is the reply I received from HTC:
Thank you for your enquiry concerning the HTC P3600 mobile device.
Unfortunately we will not upgrade our current devices to include the Mobile 6 software.? However, there will be new devices out which will include the software.
Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at Http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Best regards,
HTC Support
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com

quite strange! Microsoft annunced yesterday WM6 saying it will be possible to upgrade some "old" devices like t-mobile dash with WM6!

The question is: when will they release an official P3600 successor?
And how much it will cost. And if it is worth waiting for it.

Tytan you are not very long in the PocketPC world eh?
"possible to upgrade" doesn't mean "the vendor will do it"
same happened in the past (more than once)

Well ... if they in fact do not release a WM6 update for the D810, then it will only hamper their sales in Australia, seeing that they only released the D810 on Jan 16th (1 month ago). So, as new WM devices are released with WM6, it will make it hard to compete if they do not provide a WM6 update ... regardless of all the functions this puppy has.

ZakMcRofl said:
The question is: when will they release an official P3600 successor?
And how much it will cost. And if it is worth waiting for it.
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We have already talked about that. Look at google.

Couple of announcements started coming out from 3GSM on upgrades, Imate to upgrade a few, Palm to upgrade Treo, nothing from HTC so I doubt it.
I've found HTC to be follower not a leader in these type of things, same goes for their products, they are only inavative if they have to be. I guess if enough people complain and they get enough bad rap they might but from everything I've seen with HTC, they couldn't give to <fill in any explicit word here> about their customers.
Doesn't matter, Trinity will tied me over until some of those new Imate devices come out, if they live up to the specs coming out of 3GSM, there will be some pretty amazing devices, I can't want to see the clamshell one, hope it comes in HTC killing black as well as gold

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http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...47-6e06-4a0c-8cac-ca7d4c09cb56&DisplayLang=en

Here's what HTC say about WM6

Asked HTC about WM6 for my tytn this morning and here's what they say:
Good Morning,
Thank you for contacting HTC Europe regarding a query about ROM update.
We are currently awaiting an official response from our Head Office on the matter of ROM updates from Windows Mobile 5.0 to Windows Mobile 6.0. We hope to have an answer for you soon.? Please contact us again in a few weeks and we may be able to give you an update.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Regards,
HTC European Support team
callserv[email protected]
HYPERLINK "file://www.htc.com"www.htc.com
How awesome is that?! Lets hope they say yes!!

perhaps, but unlike others at least they're talking about it.

maninwhitecoat said:
Asked HTC about WM6 for my tytn this morning and here's what they say:
Good Morning,
Thank you for contacting HTC Europe regarding a query about ROM update.
We are currently awaiting an official response from our Head Office on the matter of ROM updates from Windows Mobile 5.0 to Windows Mobile 6.0. We hope to have an answer for you soon.? Please contact us again in a few weeks and we may be able to give you an update.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Regards,
HTC European Support team
[email protected]
HYPERLINK "file://www.htc.com"www.htc.com
How awesome is that?! Lets hope they say yes!!
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Was just about to post this myself

I think the crux of the matter will be, will it cost HTC anythin to supply a WM6 rom for existing devices? It will cost a bit in development, but would they have to pay MS for licensing?
I'm sure the answer is yes - so they wont do it.
Call me a pessimist if you like . . . Im relying on a clever rom cooker out there!
Rob

maninwhitecoat said:
Asked HTC about WM6 for my tytn this morning and here's what they say:
Good Morning,
Thank you for contacting HTC Europe regarding a query about ROM update.
We are currently awaiting an official response from our Head Office on the matter of ROM updates from Windows Mobile 5.0 to Windows Mobile 6.0. We hope to have an answer for you soon.? Please contact us again in a few weeks and we may be able to give you an update.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Regards,
HTC European Support team
[email protected]
HYPERLINK "file://www.htc.com"www.htc.com
How awesome is that?! Lets hope they say yes!!
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Did anybody notice that only htc vox from three new handsets (forth one has been removed from htc site) presented at 3GSM has wm6 preinstalled. I think that htc will do an upgrade of some handsets with wm5. Let's hope I'm right!
cheers

HTC released upgrades for exisiting devices from PocketPC 2003 to WM5 and is busy on other devices for update to WM6, also from WM5 to WM6 'so it could be possible that the TYN gets one from WM5 to WM6.
*fingers crossed*

Maarten_NL said:
HTC released upgrades for exisiting devices from PocketPC 2003 to WM5 and is busy on other devices for update to WM6, also from WM5 to WM6 'so it could be possible that the TYN gets one from WM5 to WM6.
*fingers crossed*
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as far as i know htc never released any OS upgrades... and i've had htc devices since the XDA 1.

Why are we all excited for WM6? They can't even get WM5 right on this device!

I dont see any reason to wait for WM6. With WM5 works solid, and i dont see any changes from WM5 to WM6!! Changes of OS from one year, are not enough from Microsoft.

dodadent;1141193 said:
I dont see any reason to wait for WM6. With WM5 works solid, and i dont see any changes from WM5 to WM6!! Changes of OS from one year, are not enough from Microsoft.
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Well for one, the email client is supposed to be better, also PIE has some updates, but the biggest thing for me is that I spend hours a day behind a remote desktop session from my TyTN, and the client in WM6 is so much better from what I have read, clipboard support..no more transferrin docs to retrieve text....also its supposed to have sound support also...I run streaming media services, and being able to preview audio before I encode it etc..that would be incredibly helpful. And also when you don't rewrite an OS completely you build upon it, work out bugs, and add improvements, plus I guess if you only talk on your device...its not gonna be much different.
I tend to see some people sayin the same thing about the PC OS's, its like they expect a whole new experience with each OS.
When you completely redo the OS everytime you only tick off software designers, There are improvements there, just take the time to look.

i agree, heavy users of their devices will have huge amounts of program data running at one time, (i do) and sometimes it lags, other times it fails to load new programs. I read that the memory paging was better in WM6 than it is in WM5 so lets hope so!

Here's sort of a kick in the pants. Check out what the article says about HTC and WM6. Hmm...http://www.pocketpcmag.com/mobile/webguide.asp

official wm6 includes office 2007?

I dont see any reference to it in the pdf that describes it.
anyone know?
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Please read the Wiki. Official WM6 ROM release doesn't come with Office2007. There maybe hope in the Europe WWE release, but doubtful.
Microsoft is planning to offically release Office2007 this fall sometime as a free upgrade to WM6 users, so I've read. If this has changed, then correct me.

Sounds reasonable - they have to use the Windows Update Util for something after all
Smiffy.

thank you
sorry, I should have tried to read the wiki first
/m

I am on Dopod latest WM6 rom and I amable to open docx files no problem?? does it mean that it is 2007 ??

does it mean that it is 2007 ??
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If you open docx and xlsx, the answer is Yes. Probably you ROm was filled with the Office Mobile 2007 appz.

Well it is standard Official DOPOD WM 6 ROM. The only thing I have installed is OneNote Mobile... From One Note App on my Lappy.

Many cooked ROMs come with Office2007. Satin does (minus OneNote, which can be installed separately).
I'm pretty impressed with O2K7. PowerPoint is particularly good. It renders presentations very well indeed, including transitions.

bobbyelliott said:
Many cooked ROMs come with Office2007. Satin does (minus OneNote, which can be installed separately).
I'm pretty impressed with O2K7. PowerPoint is particularly good. It renders presentations very well indeed, including transitions.
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Mine is not Cooked man

Official O2 UK WM6 ROM contains Office 2007...just thought you'd like to know
Smiffy.

Lordsmiff said:
Official O2 UK WM6 ROM contains Office 2007...just thought you'd like to know
Smiffy.
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Is teh O2 ROM available anywhere besides the O2 site ??

Go get it
http://rapidshare.com/files/46408789/RUU_Hermes_O2_UK_3.54.206.1_6275_1.47.00.00_108_Ship.exe

I think the wiki needs to be updated then. The dopod rom (and my flavor of it) have Office 2007 apps.

Lordsmiff!
Thanx...
Have you got any comments on the ROM ?? maybe some screenshots ?? vbmenu_register("postmenu_1409703", true);

I don't know if I'm gonna flash it yet - been a serial flasher but I'm happy at the mo with black satin
I'll probably give it a run tomorrow
Smiffy.

Here is the CAB I used for my Onenote...

I was under the impression that no released version of Office 2007 Mobile has the ability to open .%%%x documents yet, and that this would be available as a downloadable update in the fall.. I read that on Jason Landridge's blog.
The version of Office 2007 Mobile that comes in the Treo 750 WM6 ROM definitely cannot open .docx, xlsx, etc.

My DOPOD ROM I looked in the WORD Mobile Settings and I see that the default template is set to .docx so I guess it does open *.%%%X files, plus I have tryed to open docx and xlsx files and no problem

Official HTC wm6 also includes Office 2007, minus outlook :-(
So you get: Powerpoint, Word and Excel.
Outlook is the old one and OneNote can be installed from pc if you have Onenote on it.

one note mobile cab in english
does any1 have the onenote mobile cab in english?

OFFICIAL HTC WM6 ROMs REVOKED! - WHY?!

From the HTC Europe support webpage the new WM6 ROMs, published yesterday, have suddenly been revoked!
Just check it yourself! I wonder, why?!

But, quite interestingly, the roms are still avaible in HTC ftp site...

They probably needed some testers for it! And by looking at the reactions in this forum they can see if there are changes to be made?!

From internal information I was told that they accidentally made it available yesterday. The schedule is for tommorow. They didn't synchronised well with local dealers and providers.
Logically tommorow night will be up again (if the infos are corect!!)

It's already back again

Any official HTC WM6.1

Hi all!
Is there any official HTC WM6.1 rom for artemis ?

gguyaz said:
Hi all!
Is there any official HTC WM6.1 rom for artemis ?
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If you got the HTC website and login as a member, that you can download this. Whether this is 6.1, dont know
10/3/2007
Windows Mobile® 6 upgrade
By upgrading your HTC device to Windows Mobile® 6 you'll be able to take advantage of the new and improved features that will help you do more when you're on the move.
With Windows Mobile® 6 you can:
* Stay connected to your e-mail, calendar, and contacts.
* Be productive read and compose Microsoft Word Mobile files, make Microsoft Excel Mobile charts, and view Microsoft PowerPoint presentations.
* Find what you need quickly and easily including business listings, maps and directions with Windows Mobile's powerful search and filtering features.
* Get access to corporate networks for data and documents stored on file shares and SharePoint sites.
* Fit your style with a variety of designs ranging from touch screen devices with slide out keyboards to sleek full-keyboard smartphones or compact flip phones.
* Now receive HTML e-mail support, improved security and encryption, greater integration with Microsoft products including direct SharePoint® intranet access from e-mail links and superior connectivity to Windows Vista™.
This software is provided only for use with, and for licensed end users of, the HTC P3300. Use of the software is subject to accompanying end user license agreement. Any other use of this software is strictly prohibited and may subject you to legal action

To my understanding all of wm 6.1 rom posted here are all official roms, they´re just not released by htc, but by our great cookers.
So choose one that suits your needs.
Cheers.

.... and most of the times these roms are ported from other devices!
which leads to the main question of them roms: are they really FULLY compatible?
- why are there various probs. like memory leakage, apss not running?
- what about the battery drain? -due to constant polling based on ported / incompatible??? radio roms from other devices.
search, and you will find a number of issues on cooked roms....
...you say this is not true?- use the orig. htc wm6 rom, and you will see the diffrence
...you say them issues dont bother you? - enjoy the rest of the rom then!
everyone to their liking!
greetz

Thank you for your reply ! I am looking for an original HTC Artemis ROM to cook one myself. I already done that on a WM6. But 'til now I cannot find an original one. That is why I am asking for a link

gguyaz said:
I am looking for an original HTC Artemis ROM to cook one myself.
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Don't think you'll find one - your best bet will be to try Bepe's Kitchen for Artemis, which incorporates WM6.1 ported from Kaiser.

This what I was thinking for...no WM6.1 for artemis.

the one on the HTC web site is WM6.0, I initially used that. They haven't posted 6.1 yet.
But I agree on the battery drain issue, since i'm using a cooked WM6.1 ROM, my battery drains faste
r, noticeably so. but i'm happy because my Artemis is so f-ing cool now. Beats the hell out of the iPhone!

tedsandy said:
the one on the HTC web site is WM6.0, I initially used that. They haven't posted 6.1 yet.
But I agree on the battery drain issue, since i'm using a cooked WM6.1 ROM, my battery drains faste
r, noticeably so. but i'm happy because my Artemis is so f-ing cool now. Beats the hell out of the iPhone!
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always did bro,always did