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WM2005 sucks?

Looks like wm2005 still not very stable, a lot of programs still not working.
For example, Xbackup, set as ringtone or Monster Chinese, etc.

well alot of programs required new versions when 2003SE came out as well

ttseng said:
Looks like wm2005 still not very stable, a lot of programs still not working.
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Using it on my Imate for a month or more and no problem so far and no lock-ups like there were on WM2003SE

I think the title of this thread is misleading... :?
The fact that it does not run several applications or crashes is because:
1.- This version is not final
2.- It's not compatible because of it's very nature, IT'S A NEW OS!!!
The same happened when we upgraded our PCs to Windows XP don't you remember?
New versions will start to come up eventually, and even if you don't see any advances "right-out-of-the-box" it's because the main improvements on this OS reside behind the scenes, so Programmers will start to develop new and exciting apps that take advantage of the new features and APIs.
For me Windows Mobile 5.0 has been very stable even with the very first version that Buzz, Toe and the gang which had very limited memory resources I had no stability problems whatsoever.
There are limitations of course, (like no MMS, mediocre video camera, sms problems, etc) but eventually Microsoft OR our very own developers will take care of that!
So, BE PATIENT!!!!! :wink:

Hi,
Using it for 3 days in my Qtek 2020 and no problem at all.
Even Jabra250 works fine, when in 2003SE was difficult to setup.
About software that don't work, we must wait until new versions come out...
I'm sure when you update you computer from NT to W2K you has software that didn't work and had to buy new versions, so why should be different here?
Be patient.... Mobile5 is ok for now.
AF

if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb

Xeon said:
if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb
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if only we could run it on magician

some0NE said:
Xeon said:
if only we can fix the camera it would be Superb
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if only we could run it on magician
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i double that

Rayan & all the rest are right!!!
I can't agree less to what Rayan wrote.
It's a new OS and a beta for that matter (check out Goras thread on "WM2005 that I can share"), If I'm not mistaken it's not also intended for Himalaya, judging on the memory problems just solved(!) by Buzz, toenailed, XdaJojo, mamaich & all the other contributors as well.
Personally in my opinion its a lot 'solid' than the WM2003 & SE since it has to crash yet on my xda II, as mentioned by Rayan even the initial release of the OS with limited memory was stable.
The problems with the apps like backup & camera are being solved one-by-one, MMS which doesn't even start before is now working (check out the threads on WM2005 in the forum).
Even now, the benefits of using the OS in terms of performance, stability & looks far outweighs its limitations (in my humble opinion) just be patient & leave it to the WIZARDS (Buzz, toenailed, XdaJojo, etc. etc. etc).
Besides, hey ttseng this is the xda-developers forum & we all are having fun testing, tweaking, & breathing new life to our "soon to be outlawed" XDA II ....... if not for the WIZARDS in the forum !!!!! Notice the request for the OS on the other xda models, aren't we lucky we have the WiZARDS working on the HIMA? :lol:
Cheers!

works flawlessly on XDA2 Himalaya!!!!!!!!
best os and most stable one ive come across ,wm200se never really happy but this WM2005 is and has been stable without a single hard reset or rest since install.even self configured the o2email and hotmail!! took the o2 uk config & connections setup file from a XDA2s_1-12-178-WWE_UK_Extended_ Rom.

Is there more than one version of WM2005 kicking about?
I successfully installed WM2005 on my XDA II, but I couldn't get many 3rd party apps to install on it. So I was surprised to see screenshots with certain utilities running ok.
I was wondering if there is more than one version of it floating about on the net. The one I installed was found on these forums, but I have recently downloaded another off usenet.
They are both himalaya.
I am sure a non-beta copy will rear its head on here sooner rather than later (I hope!)
Cam

this version is in the ftp section ,the rom has a file name of
wm2k5_XDA2_HIMALAYA_O2_fullRAM.rar

Yep!
That's the one!

That would make both copies I have the same.
Is this a late BETA or even an RTM version?
Now that the OS has been officially released I am guessing it's a race for someone to post the released version ;-)

the official full version is released?
wow!
so when can we have it for download here?
i am planning to put off my upgrade till the full version comes out.
currently i am on the win2003se which i aint very happy with!
plz advise...
thanx everybody.

It out but you cant get it.
I have a friend who is a manger in Microsoft. I sent the MS link of the offical release and asked if it can be obtained from the internal web software store. At the moment it cant and I feel it will also never be the case (2003 the end user could never buy).
So we are back to the carriers and if they will ship 2005 as an upgrade for ood devices or only on new (MDA XDA IV).
Dont think one needs to be a rocket scintist to answer that, was not one of the devices never shipped with 2003, the way I remember it it was buz that did a Chines to English translation.
So at least w on the BA side have to wait untill something gets leaked.

A little help with WM2005 upgrade please!!!!!!!
I see that most people have upgraded to WM2005 without much trouble, but not me!! I am with o2 and I've just upgraded and I can't us GPRS (it keeps trying to dial 193.113.200.195 and then drops the conx even though the IP is entered in the APN section) I can't run Worldmate pro (not compatable), TOMTOM 3 (need to upgrade to ver 4.4) pick up email etc etc.
Could I have the details that you need to enter into your XDA to connect to o2 network via GPRS so that I can access hotmail, messenger, MMS, Internet etc etc
I hope you can help as I don't want to downgrade to the old windows version.

i can send u a O2 customisation cab file if u need ,however your phone must b on contract with O2UK not payg or orange etc..

Yes Please!!
That'll be great. yes I am with O2 contract.......

where is the awesome rom !!! please
iam running w2005 in my XD2..but still MANY applications cant be installed..and i was surprised to see the screenshot (above) with many applications runing ..BUT i couldnt find the ROM...i found only the one for XDA2s..."XDA2s_1-12-178-WWE_UK_Extended_ Rom" actually is a zipped file with no rom inside..just many cab files ..can anyone help me please...thanks guys

First WWE Rom of 2008?

Hi,
Messchle's & Tom Condon & Dutch rom developpers seem to be on a new year pauze, as far as i know there hasn't been released any (WWE) rom yet in 2008, only some greek & french stuff.
What do you all like in new upcomming roms ? This to get some inspiration to the rom-creators and offcourse to keep our P3300 in the running.
Maybe some cam tool (msn live cannot start camming i think, would be nice with your p3300 via wifi
I have ordered a second P3300 (other one in repair shop).
It's the best pda-phone I ever had, gsm-gps-wifi-mp3-mp4, what more can they invent ?
Cheers,
Innovator

That's right. Im still longing here everyday for a latest and clean ROM this 2008. Artemis, my bets device Only if it had a 2.8" sized VGA screen like in Eten, nothing could beat it ever!
Regards,
Carty..

2008, maybe I change my phone

im with you new phone i need 3g

New Rom Requests
A Touch Keyboard "Add Word To Dictionary" that actually works
Hold "End Call" button to lock device

Yep looking for new phone here too.
Artemis has been amazing, but now I want 3g in the bundle so Maybe Kaiser or hang on for Polaris.
The Artemis has done well, I'm not sure of the value of writing anymore ROM's at the moment, what's new to add to them? Perhaps a Pointui ROM in the future.

I want to have rock stable and clean ROM based on HTC P3300 WM6 ROM with maximized free storage and program memory - no added applications or features (like touch and cube) - just a base for making my own system with free and commercial applications, customizations and personal data for backup and restore.
Best wishes for Meshle and Tom for their great work and happy new year.

I would like to see more roms but im looking for a new phone, whatever i get though i'l still keep my orbit

right varvocell
a clean wm6 rom would be nice indeed

varvocel said:
I want to have rock stable and clean ROM based on HTC P3300 WM6 ROM with maximized free storage and program memory - no added applications or features (like touch and cube) - just a base for making my own system with free and commercial applications, customizations and personal data for backup and restore.
Best wishes for Meshle and Tom for their great work and happy new year.
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Then you need the Vanilla ROM from Meschle. That one is stable and clean.

PointUi Rom
I agree with Gadjet, a pointui based rom would be nice with themes for pocket cm, wmp, cube, today screen ect Maybe someone with the skills (and time lol) could do a couple of versions eg : Black with cube, Blue with cube, Black without, Blue without...

About the topic
I think it's really nice to have people the create the ROMs we use but I think it would be a lot nicer to have a kitchen that enables the user to create his own individual ROM. There is a guy in a German Windows Mobile forum that created a tools that is close to that:
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=121552
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=124358 (improved version)
I think it was the pandora kitchen that made me wish that we had it too. I think in that kitchen you can select between about 100 packages which ones you want on your pda. Basically we need a kitchen and packages that work for our Artemis, then updating shouldn't be the biggest problem.
I respect the "Chefs" that cook really nice ROMs and I'm not telling them to stop their good work. But if we all had one big kitchen this would be a community again because the users could create their own packages and their own ROMs.
Once I found out how easy it is to create a package and cook your own ROM I was surprised that no one told me before. The tutorials are either overloaded or don't have enough information for the beginners to understand what the Chefs are talking about. That's why I'm going to make video tutorials in February and post them as soon as they are ready (starting in my own language).
I'd be happy if we could make this nice place a true community again where the users think about contributing. To be a good example I'll post my first tutorial within the next week.

That tool you have linked to looks awesome.....I'm into that in a big way and will give it a go when I have some time...thanks for sharing....

Registerme said:
I think...
Once I found out how easy it is to create a package and cook your own ROM I was surprised that no one told me before. The tutorials are either overloaded or don't have enough information for the beginners to understand what the Chefs are talking about. That's why I'm going to make video tutorials in February and post them as soon as they are ready (starting in my own language).
I'd be happy if we could make this nice place a true community again where the users think about contributing. To be a good example I'll post my first tutorial within the next week.
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I will be with you! thanks in advance for this video.

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Then you need the Vanilla ROM from Meschle. That one is stable and clean.
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It's my current ROM - I agree - very stable, clean, with good battery life and plenty of free memory, but as far as I know it's not based on P3300 (and I'm not sure if Java midlet manager in this ROM could be used without any legal problems).

varvocel said:
It's my current ROM - I agree - very stable, clean, with good battery life and plenty of free memory, but as far as I know it's not based on P3300 (and I'm not sure if Java midlet manager in this ROM could be used without any legal problems).
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Have you tried the last new ROM from Meschle Vaniila 4.01? This one is even
faster than the other releases. I'm working with this one for a week now and this one is also stable and very very fast.

Artemis vs Polaris
I have tried out the Polaris a bit, and it looks almost the same as the Artemis, only faster (400 MHz) and with some minor approvements. I especially like the screenshield which follows. But, I miss the full GPS package with car kit and charger, but this is just accessories, and can be bought anywhere. I will definite buy one of those in som time......I think... Depends on the next generation of ROMs from the gurus here at XDA
Greetings from Norway, especially to Tom Codon, Meschle, Bepe, Carty and a lot of other great developers on this forum.

is there a wm6.1 for dash???

dear guys, i know you are the best in upgrading our smartphones, do you know if there is, or soon will be an upgrade to wm6.1 for s620???
tnx

Not yet.. but I think that soon it will come to S620.
We are all waiting for this update

I actually got to play with a Windows Mobile 6.1 Dash but it still seemed to lag a fair amount. Just had a flashier home screen. Everything seemed to be the same. They added Copy and Paste as well.
JAmerican

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I actually got to play with a Windows Mobile 6.1 Dash but it still seemed to lag a fair amount. Just had a flashier home screen. Everything seemed to be the same. They added Copy and Paste as well.
JAmerican
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Oh man that's great news!!! I am excited. At least that confirms that there is a very high chance we will have to upgrade. Hopefully it will become more stable and not have memory leaks.
Thanks Jamerican....

did you check the new PIE how is it, does it have flash???

How about threaded sms like the PPC version has??

i'm actually really curious about wm6.1 too. I know it's out already, so where are the ROMs at? BTW, does anyone have access to HTC's downloads for the S620-621? When I attempted to register my unit with the serial # at their site, it wouldn't let me since it knew it was T-Mo Dash instead.
EDIT: well a quick search on google yielded this interesting result:
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=13800
I guess that's why we're not seeing any wm6.1 devices anytime soon...

even so, here at xda-developers you can see upgrades to 6.1 for some devices, so i guess we´ll just have to wait a little bit, but its going yo be here i´m sure

Google is your friend. Many websites have covered the new WM6.1 features. Basically it comes out to these:
* Threaded SMS - A Chat like function for your SMS Inbox
* Zoom out in Pocket IE - Enables Page overview mode and better navigation
* One Note included in Office Mobile
* Running Programs tab in Settings > Memory replaced to a better Task Manager. (But the previous running programs tab was much simple and easier)
* A new Managed Programs menu
As you can see, no mention of flash incorporation in PIE. Personally, I won't upgrade until it is as fast as the HTC ROM I'm using now. I am, however, really excited about threaded SMS.

wm6.1 does exist for the dash.
Lets put it this way. People have HTC excalibur running wm6.1. 6.1 adds a new home screen, better IE (much better IE), copy & paste, new version of active sync, etc, etc. WM6.1 is also faster. I'm not sure when this will be avaliable to everyone... but it does exist.

Actually I tried it at a M$ event at my school. The lady said it would take at least 10 months for consumers to see it. That does not include carrier customization etc. Pissed me off.
JAmerican

How come the Wing users have the 6.1 and not us! When I had the Wing the 6.1 made it SOOO much better....sucks having to wait

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How come the Wing users have the 6.1 and not us! When I had the Wing the 6.1 made it SOOO much better....sucks having to wait
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Yup, i'll vouch for this. I have open touch v3 on my wing and love it. Sometimes i like to go out with my dash since its slimmer and wow its like night and day how slow it is. Even with the new HTC rom that was posted...

Am I missing something here? When did the Wing get a system that isnt released yet? I am confused

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Am I missing something here? When did the Wing get a system that isnt released yet? I am confused
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WM 6.1 is alive and well on the PPC platform. First batch of WM 6.1 Professional ROMs hit the scene about a week and a half ago and I may be wrong about this but I believe the wing (HTC Herald) was the first to get it from our fine chefs here on XDA-DEV. Still waiting on a 6.1 Standard version for our favorite non-touchscreen devices (HTC Excalibur etc)...
Also don't forget that fortunately/unfortunately the touchscreen devices are way more popular than the non-touchscreen devices.
Personally I believe my T-Mobile Dash running the HTC ship rom is way more stable than any other Windows Mobile device I have ever owned, and I've had quite a few as can be seen in my sig.

Thats interesting, I had no idea!

I don't want to waste time flashing my Dash with a cooked 6.0 ROM (HTC ROM) if 6.1 is only a few weeks away. Any estimate from the ROM cookers on a 6.1 release for the Dash?

Microsoft Is Coming Out With An Official 6.1 Version For The Excalibur Very Soon
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I don't want to waste time flashing my Dash with a cooked 6.0 ROM (HTC ROM) if 6.1 is only a few weeks away. Any estimate from the ROM cookers on a 6.1 release for the Dash?
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This is good news to my ears, I had no ideal that Microsoft was coming out with a official released for the Excalibur very soon...........!

Haha, yeah good thing I didn't waste my time with a cooked 6.0 ROM...

This ever happed?
WM 6.1 for S621, Excalibur?
Official ROM release?

Change from WM6 t WM6.1 - advantages?

Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot

I'm interested too, and what about Battery usage & Speed (memory usage) ?
thanks

There´s quite a few threads with the same question and the answer is usually the same....Try the roms out.
To me is kind of rude when someone says"this one is better than that one" or stuff like that,because these rom cooks are using their time just for us and they don´t deserve those comparisons.....so like I said give different roms a shot and compare yourself.

bigfoot said:
Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot
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WM 6.1. can be managed from System Center Mobile Device Center (see http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/mobile/default.mspx). Thta's a big advantage for the large compagnies
The bluetooth pairing doesn't need the password 0000 toggled in.
Memory & battery usage are still the same.

Going back to WM6
bigfoot said:
Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot
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After many efforts to work with WM6.1 and with my apps I finally gave up: for the indevidual (and not companies) there still many bugs comparing to the stable WM6: annoying soft-reset, many apps are well integraded with WM6.1 etc.
Sorry, but I do not see how WM6.1 is better than WM6.

but are any of the roms real 6.1...or just lookie likey?????

i have been using PDAVIET 3.08.61.29WWE and it is excellent. I have many apps loaded and have not encountered a single problem. This rom is blazing fast and supports everything i have thrown at. 6.1 has been perfect for me i dont have any problems as i read. i literally install 1 to 2 apps per day and not a single issue. before this i was using FInixNOver WM6.1 and same thing not a single problem.

in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ... but microsoft appears to be as same as always ... just sells us old **** that hadn't changed since Windows Mobile 2003 ... poorly unacceptable ... like microsoft ... like always ... i'm just fed up with theses poors OSs, i hope the iPhone2 will get out soon, i will sell my trinity as soon as i can and get this really GOOD device !
there will never be improvements on WM from microsoft for a long time, everyone will have to wait until at least 1 year before seeing the first devices coming with WM7, so i prefer going to a brand that do good human-machine interfaces, and the iPhone is doing really good !
why would we have to stay to WM ?! the iPhone do the Exchange Sync ... i just don't understand anymore microsoft ...

Question about pocket excell and word
I red somewhere that WM 6.1 pocket word and excell documents are in PC full format and for WM6.0 this format is only pocket. Is that true?

To Simkand
Hi
Iphone ? ha ha ha ha
It's so buggy and you need itunes to use it .......
If you want another interface, try ifonz or another one available here
I use now WM6.1 on 3 devices : a trinity, a blue angel and a smartphone : so far so good
And I am not a big fan of Bill !

iPhone
I bought two 8 Gig iPhones the first day they came out. One for myself, and one for my wife. The very next day, I returned mine (10% return charge).
My wife loves it because it's VERY simple to use, and you cannot mess things up easily. But for me, you have to HACK the PISS out of it to get it to do ANYTHING! It's network is dog slow, no MMS, no GPS, no SD slot, no programs to install, (untill I hacked it), it crashes more often than my WM6 devices, JOBS Locks it down every chance he gets, iTunes SUCKS and crashes Windows! I will admit, the screen and the multi-touch is impressive! It makes a GREAT iPod, but a usable communications tool, it's not.
Even with all the hacks on it, it still does not compare to WM6. WM has litterally thousands of software programs you can use freely for just about anything. I'm sure in time, the iPhone will get closer, but for now, not for me.
My biggest pet peeve was the fact that my appointments would not show up on the main screen when I first turn it on. That's something I insist on with my WM phone.
If you want a great TOY with a fantastic screen, then it's fine.

i think differences are only little.. part of it is the sms system. 6.1 transform sms system into some kind of a chat window. well this is quite good considering it is easier to read the history messages

simkard said:
in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ...
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Why not trying the new SPB Mobile Shell 2.0?
I am very happy with this.

I apologize for getting side tracked.
iPhone does have a great GUI, it's just locked down making it hard to modify, at least for now.
You are right, WM 6.1 GUI is basically the same. Thanks Bill!
WM 6.1 adds the threaded SMS as mentioned before. It IS slower, but I prefer this layout.
The task manager now shows a LOT more information including running processes, memory consumption, & CPU consumption.
I'm not having any of the problems reported by other users (ie: program incompatibilities, crashes, bluetooth, activesync, etc...), so it's MUCH quicker running on my phone.
Bluetooth is Much more reliable, and simple to hook up (0000 is automatic).
Browsing in File Explorer is Much Quicker.
It might just be me, but my speaker phone seems a bit louder.
Managed Programs as mentioned by Stingray66.
Wireless Lan seems to have less trouble for me. Stays connected without having to set it up constantly.
Just my experiences.

6.1 is perfect for my Trinity, RAM memory avalaible about 25 Mb, A2DP is perfect and direct, without password, multitasking in best way.-
I don´t like the easy touch interface, but in fact, with SPB pocket plus interface is working perfect and with your own custom interface.-
I can see youtube and flash videos, no problem with video and audio files and 100% compatible with Corecodec media player.-
In my own opinion is the best OS for my trinity.-
Thanks Landy.-

cecrops said:
i have been using PDAVIET 3.08.61.29WWE and it is excellent. I have many apps loaded and have not encountered a single problem. This rom is blazing fast and supports everything i have thrown at. 6.1 has been perfect for me i dont have any problems as i read. i literally install 1 to 2 apps per day and not a single issue. before this i was using FInixNOver WM6.1 and same thing not a single problem.
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I agree and .NET 3.5 can be added too. With the tool of Modaco (.NET Configuration) it's possible to switch between .NET versions and even configure the version for each application.

simkard said:
in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ... but microsoft appears to be as same as always ... just sells us old **** that hadn't changed since Windows Mobile 2003 ... poorly unacceptable ... like microsoft ... like always ... i'm just fed up with theses poors OSs, i hope the iPhone2 will get out soon, i will sell my trinity as soon as i can and get this really GOOD device !
there will never be improvements on WM from microsoft for a long time, everyone will have to wait until at least 1 year before seeing the first devices coming with WM7, so i prefer going to a brand that do good human-machine interfaces, and the iPhone is doing really good !
why would we have to stay to WM ?! the iPhone do the Exchange Sync ... i just don't understand anymore microsoft ...
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Microsoft Mobile NOOB, too much alcohol or just talking bull****?
Ignore this guy ....

bigfoot said:
I red somewhere that WM 6.1 pocket word and excell documents are in PC full format and for WM6.0 this format is only pocket. Is that true?
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No, WM6 can have integrated Office 6.1 too.

mbon said:
i think differences are only little.. part of it is the sms system. 6.1 transform sms system into some kind of a chat window. well this is quite good considering it is easier to read the history messages
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Yep, threaded SMS ... another advantage of WM 6.1

Hi.
What are you all talking about. There is no official WM6.1 for Trinity, all this ROM - is home made. This is just vinaigrette, mess of different ROM, as well as WM6.

What are the differences between the versions of Windows Mobile?

I'm really sorry if this is posted to the wrong forum or is way too much of a noob question but I was wondering if any of you could explain what the differences are between the different Windows Mobile 6/6.1/6.5 versions?
I'm asking here because I have an 8525 and have been using it with the official HTC upgrade to 6.0 ever since that version was released. I have also been a long time user of SPB Pockets Plus and recently upgraded to SPB Mobile Shell 3 which I am finding to be an incredible improvement however I am wondering what the newer version's of Mobile would add to my phone?
In case this matters for the potential usefullness of different versions, I am currently using my phone as both a business phone (I am at onsites more than in my office) as well as for personal amusement so I tend to use its ability to surf the web, check my email, access logmein, read various file types including txt, rtf, pdf, lit, etc. I am considering getting a Fortress once they come out so I can have a bigger screen but I guess that will depend on the price. Anyways, if anyone could clue me in on what the benefits are on upgrading my 8525 to the various versions I would be most gratefull, thanks in advance.

Well
Im not an expert but im a user since windows mobile 2003.
Windows Mobile 2003: The OS was fast... its stability offers to the user a new experince on a usage for a phone... you know eventough in that years the awsome images from Nokia or some other phone with Symbian OS offers nicely at sees the phone contacts and you cand add a little mor programs... cause programs in a phone isnt anything important... important.... was the signal strength so... WM2003 offer all the windows apps to a new whole device... but windows mobile 2003 jumps to A phone version! it was amazing i remember wel the HTC Blueangel! it was a big jump cause even if I use a casiopedia with windows CE isnt amazing than WM2033 from the HP iPAQ it has phone signal now... not a treo cause it allows you to see and edit offiece files! the most magnifiq use of that OS was The bluetooth manager **** that was a wizard!
Lately comes the WM5
But what da heck WM5 was so ugly?
Windows Mobile 5
This is the jump betwen ne images and new performance but because of that the OS was soooooo slooooooow i remember its bar like metallic awful! lol!!!!!
But what about the performance? it was stable hard as a stone!!!! many apps mostly dissapear in that jump from 2003 to WM5 and many of new comes from wm5... i really think that if we could have another device with WM5 maybe i could be dissapointed and drop off the WM devices but fortunatly i found a HTC Wizard aka Qtek9100... it was nice but it was slow... i love the skype i love the push email with the AKU2 holy ****! was a big hit! that aku... but the most impressionant was that we can see mostly the same Inteface as WM2003 but kindly better... not so for me.
Windows Mobile 6
After fall in this big forum in 2007 i cant remember where do i get all my apps and cabs... hardly for sure... when i get here... i wasamazed how coul the WM5 looks like this awsome UI i remember the change betwen WM2003 to WM5 and a say amazing buit ugly compared to SYmbian or PAlm os, but it has a new Speed... amazing speed!!! the old lovley BT manager dissapears but the new commanager was amazing the OS was a amzing and the messenger! all that new apps with flash growin up... really muck me up... I hate in sometime this site cause i think i screwed up my phone... but i couldnt understand the entire process of unlockin a phone from an official to a custom rom... and my device dont boots anymore so... my batt drops to the bottom it has no charge to try another Original upgrade and save it... so i wait a little buy a wall batt charger and that do the trick.... So much apps came in WM6. the htc touch with the cube was so incredible!
Windows Mobile 6.1
This looks like the 6 but the only change I can feel is the Speed no the performance... but the NetCF came and save us all it gives so much stability so much speed and compatibility to some more apps and development becomes fats to show us the Visual programming... In this part... the Touchflo isnt compatible and many people try to reach the cube and get it works but nothing it couldnt happend! many Flash players do the trick but with so much ram in it... Time for the Manilla to arrives... I mean first the new Touchflo 2 in 3D with the amazing Diamond!!!!!! that was a crack!!! really all people try to hack that applet but... none can
so it must be something to do in older devices with Processors that dont has 3d acelerators... and someone did it... there is a forgotten thread a biiiiiiig thread developing the manila 2D working for NON HTC DEVICES patch and it works very well kind year ago or year and a half... the mostly change betwen the 6 and 6.1 was the threaded SMS its all about the speed to be important for 6.1 all the UI remains since wm5.
Windows Mobile 6.5
We all wait for WM7 and M$ comes with his 6.5 new UI honeycomb start menu... new titanium transparencies and so much!!!! letters from some private investigator from the developmente mobile department sayin we gonna screw you all if post anything about 6.5 comes to town in Blueangel device.... YES BLUEANGEL!!!!!! that old device with wm2003 was the first to get 6.5 and man.... THANKS really thanks to SUN DReam!!! to show us the new 6.5... its all about the UI theperformnce when every beta build comes more fast... more stable
nicely in UI they shuts off the hexagons on the start menu... and improves more things like icons... but in compatibility since wm6.1 to 6.5 the files xlsx or docx or pptx cames from office 2007 can be oppened here on our devices...
I hope you can find the answer as you wish...
But remember once you flash your first ROM you will never stop... is like an adicction.
+ Que PPC

Wow man, really well put. You just took me for a trip down memory lane. Seems like yesterday when we were all drooling over wm5 aku2 then the cube. The suspense of the porting of wm6 we all called vanila. I had almost forgoten. Time flies.

Awesome answer!!!! Good to see this explanations for us the newbies...great.
Thanks
HTC Tytn
ROM: Shamanix WM6 Ultimate v2 Final
RADIO: 1.48.00.10
History: HTC VPA Compact (Magician), Jornada 720

Yes!!!
Something to remember! nice times...
And some other in hard researching!
Its amazing how the time flies and we still have this awsome site to be indeed with old devices at top of the new OS coming!
Ah! the windows mobile 2003! was amazing but i love wm6.5, somebody here that uses WMCE or 2002?