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Problems with new WM6 Official or "When is WM6 becoming a reality?"

Hi folks,
Really... I don't know about everyone else but I'm getting really pissed with the general usability of WM6! There is no single ROM that would just offer all the bits and pieces of a full working, polished, feature complete WM6 implementation.
I've been trying all available ROM images (Pdaviet, Mun's, Dopod Official etc) and up to now I haven't been able to find a single solution that would "just work".
On the new Official ROM there is no VOIP support (SIP is nowhere to be found), my Memory-Stick (4gb SDHC) becomes inaccessible from time to time, all the filenames start showing up as strange characters strings and it only goes back to normal after a soft-reset.
I'm sure your mileage may vary but up to now I've had no luck with WM6. Sure it is faster than WM5 but as a software engineer I would not consider it as being more than a beta quality release.
So... any thoughts on:
- Is it possible to get SIP working on WM6?
- Is it possible to get Video calling working?
- What about a stable memory card? (Yes, I've tried TrinityHack)
Best,
M Addario
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HTC P3600

yes
yes
i think so
*lots* of posts on these issues in this forum...

racerx_ said:
yes
yes
i think so
*lots* of posts on these issues in this forum...
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Yes... I know... My questioning is more on "why in hell is an official ROM allowed out when it seems clearly not ready for the end user". Even if there is a way of fixing all the mentioned problems I strongly feel that such basic, obvious things, shouldn't be broken to start with, at least on an official release.
I just hope Mun's Indigo comes as a final solution.
:/

Would it not be better if like the Open Source Community we concentrate our efforts on a single ROM that is considered a good quality base and then improve that to the stage of a polished ROM? At the moment I would vote for:
HTC_Trinity_3.00.07.09.PV.rar
as it is updated more frequently than most. Also we can then add custom packs to the ROMs which people can download e.g.
Base WM6 Rom version (continually updated by the community with minimal pro grammes, whereby each version addresses fixes)
Pack 1 - Office 2007 Apps (6.1)
Pack 2 - 3rd Party Tools e.g. Sprite Backup etc.
Pack 3 - Customizations etc.
You get the picture...
Hawk

addario said:
Yes... I know... My questioning is more on "why in hell is an official ROM allowed out when it seems clearly not ready for the end user". Even if there is a way of fixing all the mentioned problems I strongly feel that such basic, obvious things, shouldn't be broken to start with, at least on an official release.
I just hope Mun's Indigo comes as a final solution.
:/
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dear friend, no offence to you, the cookers in xda-dev are doing it out of passion and for the benefit of fellow recipients like me. Of course they have their own preferences and flavors. if you would like to have YOUR-ALL-IN-ONE, then i think the best way is for you to cook one yourself. if not, then live with what's available. The official-official dopod rom is out for download on the OFFICIAL HTC WEBSITE. i am sure you can find some mirror sites for download.

Keeping it simple...
Nighthawk2050 said:
Would it not be better if like the Open Source Community we concentrate our efforts on a single ROM...
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You see.... I totally get what you mean. Though I don't think that the way to go would be necessarily concentrating on a single ROM version but rather in keeping each one "clean". By that I mean the current biggest problem with all the cooked versions (in my view) is exactly that each developer does what he thinks is best, adding and removing stuff at his will... well... of course they are doing it and they feel like doing it the way they please but when it comes to please everyone else it is almost impossible to keep this track.
It would be SO MUCH easier if the ROMs were provided in the cleanest possible way and alongside with them a pack of CAB files that you could use to add the features you fancy.
By the way... I just noticed that using X-Button to close any app accessing my SDHC memory card causes it to go totally nuts... If I just leave them open everything is OK so it is if I use other task manager to close them (that is using the latest official dopod ROM).
Best,
M Addario
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HTC P3600

addario said:
By the way... I just noticed that using X-Button to close any app accessing my SDHC memory card causes it to go totally nuts... If I just leave them open everything is OK so it is if I use other task manager to close them (that is using the latest official dopod ROM).
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I think I just spoke too early :/ Just left the device alone for a couple of minutes (without closing any app) and when I got back to it the memory card was inaccessible again... F*£!$&@ this :/ Damn...

addario said:
Hi folks,
Really... I don't know about everyone else but I'm getting really pissed with the general usability of WM6! There is no single ROM that would just offer all the bits and pieces of a full working, polished, feature complete WM6 implementation.
I've been trying all available ROM images (Pdaviet, Mun's, Dopod Official etc) and up to now I haven't been able to find a single solution that would "just work".
On the new Official ROM there is no VOIP support (SIP is nowhere to be found), my Memory-Stick (4gb SDHC) becomes inaccessible from time to time, all the filenames start showing up as strange characters strings and it only goes back to normal after a soft-reset.
I'm sure your mileage may vary but up to now I've had no luck with WM6. Sure it is faster than WM5 but as a software engineer I would not consider it as being more than a beta quality release.
So... any thoughts on:
- Is it possible to get SIP working on WM6?
- Is it possible to get Video calling working?
- What about a stable memory card? (Yes, I've tried TrinityHack)
Best,
M Addario
--
HTC P3600
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If you are a software engineer why dont you make your own rom how you want it. I appreciate the fact that there are developers here that make great roms and then share with the rest of the community.

I´ve also been noting that battery consumption is still crappy...
Yesterday evening I fullt charged the battery, today I have: watched a 1 hour video with Coreplayer using original headphones, made a 8 min. phonecall over normal GSM network, installed (tried to install ) comm managers and dialpads, soft resetted about 5 times and surfed the web for about half an hour. Now I have one bar left on my battery meter...
Is this normal? It seems a very short battery life for me...

IMO the official ROM is ridiculously unstable. A2DP is pure crap, WMP crashes randomly, phone will freeze randomly, ISP settings disappearing after soft reset, general slowness in GPS apps like Navigon, Destinator, IMO lower call quality; just to name a few. I did not have any of these problems with AX3L's ROM or any of the "unofficial" ROMs. I'm flashing back to AX3L's ROM tonight as the crap A2DP is inexcusable!

I'm using Dopod SEA and it has no problems

Hello,
I'm using Dopod ANZ and it has no problems.
But one question for the ANZ Radio :1.46.30.11 what is the difference with the SEA Radio (1.46.0.11) ??
Private69.
@++++

I have a problem with SEA ROM... Caller ID (Name) not detected at all... Only Caller number appear on the screen... Any help?

I had to revert back to AXEL's ROM because of all the freezing the 'official' ROM did to my phone.

addario said:
Really... I don't know about everyone else but I'm getting really pissed with the general usability of WM6!
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I use the Australian ROM and am happy with its functionality. It does exactly what was expected, considering it is really WM5 with a few enhancements. I think its easy to criticise WM6 for what it doesn't have, but perhaps you should look at the improvements that have been made from previous versions.
Granted there aren't that many (HTML mail probably being the one significant update) but Microsoft doesn't really have any comparable competition with the PDA/Phone market at the moment. Perhaps Apple might inject a bit of competition into it with the iPhone.

Which ROM should I go for?

I'm a little confused on which ROM to go for. Ideally I need it for the following purposes:
1. IT Management/Networking - For my employment
2. University Purposes
3. General purposes as I also work freelance.
I would also hopefully like it to be fully loaded with apps as I'm not going to install anything else and also fast and stable. I have a 1GB Card for storage if that helps.
If anyone can suggest something I would appreciate it.

try all roms if you hav time
im using t-mobile beta but duttys supa dupa rom is great
schps 3.60a great but just wait till 3.60b few isues now

TNT V2 is loaded. But so are some others. U need to read the COOKS rom threads / posts for information and see which one U want for yourself. Also, their are a number of rom POLL treads around.

hello friend! I already used lots of roms,, I like Shaps roms!

MrSmith22 said:
I'm a little confused on which ROM to go for. Ideally I need it for the following purposes:
1. IT Management/Networking - For my employment
2. University Purposes
3. General purposes as I also work freelance.
I would also hopefully like it to be fully loaded with apps as I'm not going to install anything else and also fast and stable. I have a 1GB Card for storage if that helps.
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There will never be a "perfect" ROM; each chef has their own favourite base applications that they cook in to the ROM, but these don't always suit everyone.
You're not giving too much away, are you??? What device do you have, what country are you in, what provider do you use, etc.....
As for "purposes", they're pretty nondescript - IT Management/Networking is my job too, but there are countless add-on applications you might need over and above the standard issue WM6 apps (like RDP client - and there are several versions of that!!). University purposes; does that mean you need Word or OneNote for lectures, or what? Similarly, Freelance covers a multitude of sins......so you're a freelance what?? Hitman, photographer, journalist, the list goes on.......
Everyone you ask will recommend their own personal (current) favourite ROM, but their favourite may not suit you at all. As for my personal recommendation, it would go something like this....I use JJ's Black ROMs - currently Black Satin, but I have also heard good reports of Schaps 3.57x series of ROMs (the 3.60 series is still being developed and there are one or two oddities still being ironed out).
Honestly, your best bet would be to start with a "Lite" ROM (one without all the extra crap built in) and then add the things you want; networking utils, productivity tools, etc....oh, and the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT thing to do before you start on your ROM flashing expedition is to READ - the guide(s) written by MrVanx (http://www.mrvanx.org) and the XDA Wiki for the Hermes (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes) are essential reading material.
Everyone who has replied to your post has given good advice - it's up to you the route you take, but there are plenty of willing people ready to help if you get stuck along the way.
Enjoy!!!
Mark.

for the time being tnt v2 is the most fastest and stable one...

I had this dilemma, I eventually went for Schaps or whatever it's called as it seems the most popular all rounder. I'm loving it and I think I'll keep it on. I get extremely nervous flashing ROMs so once a year sounds good to me, can't afford to be indesicive and brick it.

would suggest any ROM with LITE versions then you can just look around for applications that you need and install them..

hi, there are so many roms out there, quite a few have lots of added apps, some useful some not, but if you using your phone just for specific things, get a 'LITE' rom and add what you need, search for the new supa duper lite rom, its got loads of space, very nippy... then just fill up what you need.

Actually Scrub that, Supa Dupa Lite Rom is the Dogs, But in all Fairness, You want a 'all rounder', a rom with a good selection of apps, very very nice and very stable, my friend, i think that ANY schaps roms will fit the bill

i dont know why but 3g and hsdpa data works with tmobil based roms, htc one wont work just gprs and edge. is there any tmobil patches to make it work?

And to throw another option out...there are several very neat kitchens out there, if you look around. Using one (or more) of them will enable you to whip up exactly what you need/want.
Of course, learning that process is somewhat involved.
-pvs

New to the world of Hermes

as the title suggests i am very new to this world, and only was introduced to it by luck, and glad i was. Anyways just wanted to know where i could find the latest and greatest 3des.3.x for a dopod 838 pro
Also another question after some browsing it seems as though the black is the most popular, but why?? It seems to lack alot of applications in comparision to the 3des Hermes, is there any floors with the 3des hermes that i have not yet read?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

help needed
Ya i wish to find out more as well as i m using dopod 838pro, y is it after i update to the official rom of wm 6, my bluetooth can't receive file and what is the best and stable rom that you guys will recommend, pls help, i wish to enhance my hermes to top performance and what softwares is a must for it to be the best pda companion.

Welcome to a world of wonder boys. First thing that you will learn about this site is that it is large and complex and can be really daunting at first.
I recommend first starting here
And then try the guides from Mr. Vanx.
After that, just start plopping ROMs on your device and testing them out. You are bound to find one that is right for you. And if not, by the time you try four or five ROMs you will probably be ready to cook your own.
@2revup - many ROM flashers actually find that a ROM free of most software is better than a bloated ROM. It enables the user to keep most of the device's memory free to install programs of his/her choosing.

thanks for that larsuck i will do some more reading, looking forward to getting some nice ROMS

Schap's WM6 Pro ROMs will be back soon! - open to suggestions

Hi everybody!
Sorry for the delay, now I'm back on XDA-Devs forum and I hope to release soon new ROMs. I don't know yet if I missed a lot of new stuffs for our favorite device, so I ask you what you wish for the future Schap's ROMs...
Which build do you prefer? What is the most stable build from the newest ROMs? What are the newest HTC stuffs and OEM soft that I could include? Superstorage? What about other tweaks?

Schaps,
Welcome back. I hope your personal issues are now sorted.
From my perspective I prefer a lite but very stable ROM, as light as possible. Every item I then need should be availabe as a cab. That way I get my own "personal" ROM, without things I don't want (eg HTC Home). It also makes it extremely easy to update apps by simply deinstalling the old item and re-installing the latest version.
Shamanix has developed something along these lines using your 354c ROM, if I remember correctly. This has been well received by the forum. I personally have not used it asI have been waiting for your return plus you have now built a reputation for delivering rock solid ROMS, which is my no 1 priority.
I think taking the super/mega lite approach not only gives the user what they want but should cut down on your workload, and a lot of requests for different things within the ROM, all of which should be easily available as a cab.
So in summary I am looking for superlite but extremely stable ROM with your advanced config tool and all the things you would include in a ROM available as cabs, all of which should be fully tested for stability.
Hope this helps.
Thanks
WB
PS: One more thing; you need to offer an alternative way of making donations other than by Paypal. Many of us don't trust Paypal or have had problems with it.

thanks for coming back
Lite, with big storage and max memory atleast 30mb. thats it. very basic things u can cook in. pls use the latest build.
Thanks

Welcome Back!
Just one request - fix the bluetooth issue.

Hi Schaps and WELCOME back !
I hope all is well with you! We certainly missed you here
What do I need personally?
LITE LITE LITE and MEGA MEGA MEGA
Totally agree with wacky.banana statements. SOLID rom, as LITE as possible, Melted EXT_ROM (unless you think this makes the rom unstable) and all the cabs in the world to load whatever I want at any moment.
Memory leaks is a major problem for me, which steadily lead to a necessary SR. If this can be avoided or minimized to a minimum, this is a major plus IMHO.
Thanks again for all the beatiful roms you have created in the past, and looking VERY much forward to your new one

my coments suggessions are same as above
my coments suggessions are same as
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Schaps,
Welcome back. I hope your personal issues are now sorted.
From my perspective I prefer a lite but very stable ROM, as light as possible. Every item I then need should be availabe as a cab. That way I get my own "personal" ROM, without things I don't want (eg HTC Home). It also makes it extremely easy to update apps by simply deinstalling the old item and re-installing the latest version.
Shamanix has developed something along these lines using your 354c ROM, if I remember correctly. This has been well received by the forum. I personally have not used it asI have been waiting for your return plus you have now built a reputation for delivering rock solid ROMS, which is my no 1 priority.
I think taking the super/mega lite approach not only gives the user what they want but should cut down on your workload, and a lot of requests for different things within the ROM, all of which should be easily available as a cab.
So in summary I am looking for superlite but extremely stable ROM with your advanced config tool and all the things you would include in a ROM available as cabs, all of which should be fully tested for stability.
Hope this helps.
Thanks
WB

Welcome Back Schap's
Your ROMS are great which differs from many others, the best ROM from you was the 3.6 but it needed some tweeks especially the BT issue, we need to make it a superstore one, good luck we will always back you.

DO your best as allways
Make the best ROM, without any bugs, make it with as much more storage as you can and it's possible.
You cook much programms, but some of them not needed.
If it's possible make accept from any you will make one Lite version, that should have the best more free storage.

I dont know in which build you will end BUT I think you should make a 3.54d Lite because there are some customisations for non English environment which they are made on 3.54 HTC official rom and they don't work on other build, not to mention that 3.54 seems to be the most stable from others.Thanks . Glad you are back and I hope NOT to have other problems EVER.

a new lite edition
hello schaps.. I do like your work! I´d like u to make a lite edition without WMP... cos I think a few people uses WMP, for ex.. I always use Coreplayer that uses less RAM...
Thanx bro!

Just make sure you include the keyboard while on phone fix
that is the only reason I had to flash away from your rom.
Welcome back!

My suggestions:
-Ext-ROM melted into Mainstorage with Lite-Version (70+MB available free mem. after HR)
-Advanced Config with no Ext-ROM Options (if melted and not available)
-HTC Streaming Media left inside (for stability with 3G Dialers, no working Streaming Media cab for Hermes at the moment)
-3G-Dialer with Smartdialer
-Internet Connection sharing with new "W-LAN Router" hack (patched dll and settings, maybe over Advanced Config switchable?)
-IR-Beam disabled by default
-No Standard File Explorer if possible (this is the worst app ever)

I have found the AT&T 3.62 build works great, and 1.54.07.00 radio seems to only work properly with this build (the missing signal problem, i mean).
The other things that need to go: stock file explorer, WMP, and the default calculator.
In my experience, mega storage ROMs hemmorage memory, so if you could make it more stable that would me killer.

Hi Schap:
I suggestion a new Schap's WM6-Pro ROM with ExtROM 3.62 with CE 5.2.1622Build 18128.0.4.4 (last one for AT&T) and check the last version for each OEM application and additional.
TecMan

What about TouchFlo?

PAPPL said:
My suggestions:
-Ext-ROM melted into Mainstorage with Lite-Version (70+MB available free mem. after HR)
-Advanced Config with no Ext-ROM Options (if melted and not available)
-HTC Streaming Media left inside (for stability with 3G Dialers, no working Streaming Media cab for Hermes at the moment)
-3G-Dialer with Smartdialer
-Internet Connection sharing with new "W-LAN Router" hack (patched dll and settings, maybe over Advanced Config switchable?)
-IR-Beam disabled by default
-No Standard File Explorer if possible (this is the worst app ever)
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I totally aggree with this post.
Just do your work and create a stable, fast ROM

Mr.Schinko said:
I totally aggree with this post.
Just do your work and create a stable, fast ROM
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What about total commander as a real replacement for file explorer ?

AT&T 3.62 is stable

Runs around office shouting for joy
Sweet!!! I am so glad you are back!! (Just not the same without you). Whew suggestions well lets see
I disagree with most of the posters here about super lite, there are enough super lite roms on these forums and I generally get better performance with ROMs with cooked in apps (45+ MB of storage would be great if most critical apps are cooked in)
1. Add Internet Sharing over Wifi (per fluxist) in advanced config or as a standard setting, this is HUGE!
2. If there was anyway you could cook in any of the newer stuff off the touch dual (contact mgr, full screen keyboard, pic view, etc) that would be incredible
3. Storage is great but super storage... not so much, I think I get better performance with cooked in apps
4. This is a matter of personal taste (and I usually mod it with cabs) but the kaiser comm manager/dialer/audio manager is easier for me to user one handed than the comm/dialer/audio manager included in the base 103.60
5. Get rid of WMP and standard file explorer (replace with something better)
6. ATT 3.62 as base
7. Oxios
9. If the new HTC keyboard/contacts is not available could you talk to the pocketcm folks about cooking in their apps?
10. Audio Equalizer (HP put one out it is on these forums somewhere)
11. Touchflo!! (I can't believe the alpha is working after all this time) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334965
Thats it WELCOME BACK

Bluetooth
Hi Mr. Schap!
Your ROM is really wonderfull, i just hope you can fix the bluetooth problem in the new version!
Thnx!

SPB Mobile Shell 3 / diamond theme?

Hi,
I haven t flashed my diamond yet.
But yesterday I installed the spb 3 and it s amazing.
I even think it s faster...
Well, so my questions:
is there a diamond theme for spb3.0?
i ve seen there s one for 2.1, but it s not working on 3.0
Should I put a ROM for my diamond?
I want it to be as fast as possible (and possibly the touch screen to be more sensitive)
Which ROM would you advise me? (and can it be compatible with SPB3?)
I m not asking how to do it, just the latest ROMS avail that are faster and smoother.
i haven t properly understood how i can see what is inside each rom.
basically i want GPS working, i want tasks and calendar, internet and wifi and radio.
maybe a better video player cause the ones i have do suck.
That's it, thanks guys!

EDIT:
i have WM 6.1 how should I update to 6.5? is it easy? free?
i can t update weather data with SPB MS 3.
I have internet, it works.
but when I click UPDATE it does nothing...

Yes its free.
Yes its easy.
Run hardspl on ur diamond, and download one of the roms in this forum, then connect ur phone via activesync, start the program.
Then ur set to go.
Sry if that was a little hard to read, but i just woke up

ok thanks.
so you're telling me that WM6.5 comes preshipped inside some ROMS, is that correct?
Any ROM compatible with SPB MS3 and super light (but with GPSToday, Tomtom, Coreplayer or similar, wifi and some extra apps?)
Cheers

iorga1 said:
Hi,
I haven t flashed my diamond yet.
But yesterday I installed the spb 3 and it s amazing.
I even think it s faster...
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Flash ANYTHING else than the stock ROM and you will see about speed and smooth... And THEN compare it with SPB...
iorga1 said:
ok thanks.
so you're telling me that WM6.5 comes preshipped inside some ROMS, is that correct?
Any ROM compatible with SPB MS3 and super light (but with GPSToday, Tomtom, Coreplayer or similar, wifi and some extra apps?)
Cheers
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Win 6.5 is NOT OFFICIAL YET, so you can't have it in "preshipped" roms. What;s' out there is leaked betas.
Fast 6.1 Rom - Nataly (check Pietrucci's benchmarks), comes with kitchen so you can set it up the way you want.
Fast 6.5 rom - well, they are not THAT fast and consume more memory.
If you have manila CFC compressed, and a fast rom, then SPB doesn't offer any real advantages. It's just something different. I tried it, and, hmm... came back to TF3D. it's functional, smooth, etc. I tried to put out "i got used to it" factor, as you can get used to spb shell too. it's just that I didn't found any real (speed or memory) reasons to use SPB. And fork extra money for it on the top of it... TF3D is free after all....
As well, when it comes to the applications -you install what you want, don't expect to have tomtom in rom, apart from other things it's illegal.... ROM is a base. then you customize it (in kitchen ) or install what you want after.
Good luck in search for optimum config!

thanks for your answer.
ok so basically you're telling me SPB is not that fast compared to ROMs avail out there, and its functionnality is not that evident.
I like it a lot (though no way to update weather)
And my ROM is 1.93.,,,, radio 1.25... so it s not that outdated, is it?
which ROM should I put in order to have at least the same than what I have?
Cause it seems ROM development was huge some time ago, and you guys had the HTC diamond a long time ago... mine has 4 months, and this means it might come shipped with an already decent ROM. I wouldn t like to flash it with an older ROM and see some features/apps disappear... do you see what I mean?
Am I wrong? cause the google entries only show roms from 2008... is there anything newer out there?

SPB is just a today app, u can still use spb after installing new rom.
Belive me, if u install other roms like Energy ROM, it will be faster, smother and better.
After installing new rom just install SPB again.
Even if it looks like its older roms here, it aint.
Hope this answer will help you.
Cheers mate!

iorga1 said:
thanks for your answer.
ok so basically you're telling me SPB is not that fast compared to ROMs avail out there, and its functionnality is not that evident.
I like it a lot (though no way to update weather)
And my ROM is 1.93.,,,, radio 1.25... so it s not that outdated, is it?
which ROM should I put in order to have at least the same than what I have?
Cause it seems ROM development was huge some time ago, and you guys had the HTC diamond a long time ago... mine has 4 months, and this means it might come shipped with an already decent ROM. I wouldn t like to flash it with an older ROM and see some features/apps disappear... do you see what I mean?
Am I wrong? cause the google entries only show roms from 2008... is there anything newer out there?
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I STRONGLY suggest the use of searh feature:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Upgrades
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512505
It helps ENORMOUSLY....
And in general - from the posts above I would suggest that you do first some reading. there's a lot of decent FAQ's here, as well as tutorials. Just read for 2 -3 evenings. It will be VERY beneficial to you, I hope.
After all, none of us was simply born with the knowledge.. And all of us had the 1st day with diamond, then some time on this forum, and then a lot of things became self-explanatory...
Good luck!

thanks guys
i read all this info a long time ago, did not upgrade, so I forgot a lot.
But I understand the ideas and the vocabulary
You said 2 things:
- upgrade the HTC site ROM. ok but it is not recognised when I type in my serial number. cause telefonica movistar SPN is a bit annoying for this.
as far as i remeber my readings, this would be solved when hardspl and ROM flashed.
- the numbers taht appear on the table, do not correspond to mines. So I guess this means I should get one of those, and try to proceed to the upgrade.
Is is worth? (i think it s better to get rid of that annoying logos and themes and crappy heavy processes shipped in the movistar ROM and grab the ENERGY one, or another one like Rhodian (have to read)
Anyway thanks for your answers.
I ll try to flash the ROM. First have to make a backup.
also i might have a dump of the ROM for guarantee purposes, done few months ago
cheers,

Hi,
Because speed is important, My suggestion is BsB ROM Specially Version J.(Windows Mobile 6.5)
Version L is slightly slower (Because of 10mb pp instead of 16mb-not big difference)
I'm using BsB ROM+SPB Mobile shell V3 and it works like a charm.
Good Luck!

When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640

mjaxa said:
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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I agree, but I must say that SPB 3 with a standard rom is a lot faster than any rom with TFLO that I've tested.

mjaxa said:
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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Hi,
Thanks for the benchmark, but i have to say :
1) Bsb 6.5 ROM isn't in benchmark . i also can't see Energy WM6.5 ROM in this benchmark. These two are fastest available 6.5 ROMs for diamond (in my opinion)
2) in my personal experience, spb mobile shell 3 on Bsb ROM, is faster than any Other 6.5 or 6.1 ROM.(specially if you change pp to 16mb-default is 10).
3)I think Bsb ROM is Quick because of Excellent Memory Management. with Mobile shell 3 running, i have more than 50MB free Memory after Boot(pp=10MB) and without SPB More than 61MB.
Give it a try, i'm sure that you won't be disappointed.
Good Luck!

OK, you may be right, but still, in order to say "is fast" you need to compare it to hard data. If you want to bother you should install SPB Benchmark and run it on this ant that rom, and ONLY then you will really see.
Having said that, at the end it doesn't really matter. What matter's is user comfort/feeling
And about memory - so you say "i have more than 50MB free Memory after Boot(pp=10MB) and without SPB More than 61MB." hmmm. In my configured rom (including extra apps like lumos, keyboard switcher, etc) after reset I have 56MB free. Without TF3d 64MB. So... this is rather standard for me Nothing special here...
But ultimately it comes to personal preference. I like Nataly, because there is kitchen and I can "trim" the ROM to my personal taste. Of course, the speed and LOTS of memory doesn't hurt...

SPB Benchmark Results for BsB 6.5L + SPB Mobile Shell
mjaxa said:
OK, you may be right, but still, in order to say "is fast" you need to compare it to hard data. If you want to bother you should install SPB Benchmark and run it on this ant that rom, and ONLY then you will really see.
Having said that, at the end it doesn't really matter. What matter's is user comfort/feeling
In my configured rom (including extra apps like lumos, keyboard switcher, etc) after reset I have 56MB free. Without TF3d 64MB. So... this is rather standard for me Nothing special here...
But ultimately it comes to personal preference. I like Nataly, because there is kitchen and I can "trim" the ROM to my personal taste. Of course, the speed and LOTS of memory doesn't hurt...
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Hi,
I agree that it comes to personal preference Completely.
SPB benchmark Results : (first after a full day working , second after soft reset)on BSB6.5L + SPB Mobile Shell 3 Running
Keep it in mind that Nataly is WM6.1 and BsB is WM6.5.
1)
Spb Benchmark index 741.55
CPU index 1766.19
File system index 344.06
Graphics index 3551.07
2)
Spb Benchmark index 765.9
CPU index 1776.53
File system index 359.16
Graphics index 3336.17
I also attached XML Result Files.
Good Luck!