Is there any way to speed things up? Takes a couple of minutes or so in my car. Quick gps doesn't seem to help. I've only had the MDAC3 since june. Does it need a hard reset?
Most GPS take a few minutes to get a fix.
Roman5 said:
Is there any way to speed things up? Takes a couple of minutes or so in my car. Quick gps doesn't seem to help. I've only had the MDAC3 since june. Does it need a hard reset?
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Try without quick GPS and see what it is like. I have a TomTom GPS Bluetooth dongle and that sometimes takes about 10 minutes to get a fix.
Roman5 said:
Is there any way to speed things up? Takes a couple of minutes or so in my car. Quick gps doesn't seem to help. I've only had the MDAC3 since june. Does it need a hard reset?
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Is it quicker when not in the car?
Unlikley to be anything to do with needing a hard reset. Most likely not getting a good signal where it is mounted.
Try re-positioning it to a more open position in the car.
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My Garmin takes approx. 1 minute from a cold start but that is using an external aerial.
My Orbit takes less than 30 seconds outside the car but a few seconds longer inside the car (mounted about 15cm from the heated screen)
Get a lock before you start moving.
Stationary with good sky visibility and updated quick GPS should only be about 30 seconds, a minute if you've moved considerably from the last location GPS was used.
Alter your routine.
Get in car, place artemis in cradle, turn on, start Tomtom.
THEN get comfy, seatbelt, CD selection etc, by the time your starting the car up, Tomtom should be locked.
Also make sure software is up to date, for Tomtom thats version 6.03, I don't know about Garmin, igo etc
Thanks for the replies.
I was in a friends car recently, she was using her own pda. I can't remember what is was, not an xda product I don't think, and it had a flap lifted to allow the built in gps receiver to work. Not only did she get a fix in about 30 seconds, but she got it on the move. Her software was not one of the big names and I can't remember what it's called. I had my MDAC3 on me and while in the car I loaded tomtom. On the way to our destination it got a fix after a few minutes. On the way back, couldn't get a fix for the whole journey.
Anyway, just now I stood outside my house for about 3 or 4 minutes and tomtom wasn't finding a signal. I went inside, downloaded the latest quick gps, went outside and it got a fix in a minute and 3/4. Unloaded tomtom and reloaded it and it then got a fix within a few seconds. I suspect in an hour or so it'll take around 2 minutes again. I guess quick gps does work after all. So it looks like if I load tomtom from cold, it's always gonna take around 2 minutes. Not terrible, but just wanted it quicker.
One other thing, someone mentioned the dopod rom on another forum, and I quote:
"Has anyone else noticed that the MDACIII takes an outrageously long time to get a first fix?
Well here's something interesting... I reflashed the missus' MDACIII using the latest Dopod ROM (which is great anyway), after using imei-check's SIM / CID unlocker.After doing so, in testing so far, it gets it's first fix a LOT faster!
I'll test more over the next few days, but this could suggest a problem in the T-Mo ROM?"
Here's the thread. I posted in it at the end but noone responded yet.
http://www.modaco.com/MDACIII-long-time-fix-t251248.html
I wonder if this dopod rom makes a difference?
Different quality
I have had a HTC P3300 with TomTom Navigator 6.030.0 for 8 month and it would take between 8-30 sek. to get a signal (newer more) nomather if it was outside, in a car, or even in most houses.
I Just bought a new P3300 a few days ago.. and i had to get it switched 3 times becouse the first 2 was so terrible slow to get a signal??? - now i finally have a good one again but i´m thinking that maybe the quality from HTC is very different??
* by the way, my Quick GPS is allways updatet because it does so automaticly when i sync.
Hi there,
I recently bought my HTC P3300 few weeks ago. Considering this is my first pda with gps, i am disappointed that others are enjoying quick gps fix.
My unit takes about 2.5 to 5 mins to get a fix from cold start. A warm start within 4 hrs yields a fix within 30 secs. It gets very annoying especially when i am trying to demonstrate the gps feature to my friends..and they have to wait about 4-5 mins to see the dam thing work.
I download QuickGPS data twice a day and even tried deleting the 2 keys files it downloads and it makes no difference!!.
When i do get a fix, i usually get connected to min 5 sats and on avg get about 6 or 7 sats. So i think that proves my unit has clear line of sight without much obstructions/interferences.
In visualgps, within 30 secs it sees 3 sats. most of the time, but its the fix it that take ages.
EDIT: When ones shakes the P3300 vigorously, do you guys hear some loose piece inside the casing moving about making noise?
Should i return my device back ( although i am out of 7 days exchange period)? Any advice is appreciated!
Thanks,
Mike
Btw, I use Tomtom 6.03 with B&B V3.7 cooked rom.
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EDIT: When ones shakes the P3300 vigorously, do you guys hear some loose piece inside the casing moving about making noise?
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Absolutely not!
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Should i return my device back ( although i am out of 7 days exchange period)? Any advice is appreciated!
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Yes although if it rattles, they will try and say you've dropped it.
MicTh said:
I have had a HTC P3300 with TomTom Navigator 6.030.0 for 8 month and it would take between 8-30 sek. to get a signal (newer more) nomather if it was outside, in a car, or even in most houses.
I Just bought a new P3300 a few days ago.. and i had to get it switched 3 times becouse the first 2 was so terrible slow to get a signal??? - now i finally have a good one again but i´m thinking that maybe the quality from HTC is very different??
* by the way, my Quick GPS is allways updatet because it does so automaticly when i sync.
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Hmm, so it seems I may have a bit of a duff one? I'm not sure I can get mine switched over now, it was an upgrade with T Mobile and that was weeks ago.
How do you configure the artemis to do automatic quickgps updates when synching? I was watching the quickgps screen when I connected it to my pc and nothing happened until I manually clicked download. Also, when it's connected to my pc, does quickgps download from my cable internet connection or does it use my gprs service?
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How do you configure the artemis to do automatic quickgps updates when synching?
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Acces "QuickGPS" press "Menu" in right corner, Choose "Options". Mark the field "Autodownload when connected to PC via ActiveSync"
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Also, when it's connected to my pc, does quickgps download from my cable internet connection or does it use my gprs service?
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I´m always online with my laptop and my P3300 uses the laptops internet connection when it sync.
MicTh said:
Acces "QuickGPS" press "Menu" in right corner, Choose "Options". Mark the field "Autodownload when connected to PC via ActiveSync"
I´m always online with my laptop and my P3300 uses the laptops internet connection when it sync.
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Excellent! I hadn't even noticed the menu/options before you mentioned it. I then connected it to my pc and was expecting to see the narrow download box showing the download process as it normally does in %. But then I looked again and noticed it had already updated with the new file as soon as it was connected. Thanks MicTh.
Quick GPS lost after B&B v4 update (Artemis)?
My quick GPS seems to have disappeared since I uploaded the otherwise brilliant B&B ROM upgrade. Does anyone have a solution for this? I'm reluctant to flash back to O2's own ROM but is it possible to update selectively from the O2 ROM? Or can I download Quick GPS from somewhere?
QuickGPS is built-in in tom's roms. in B&B4, you can find it in ->start/programs/connections
Thanks very much!
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QuickGPS is built-in in tom's roms. in B&B4, you can find it in ->start/programs/connections
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As per title! Found and sorted.
Yes I can hear it dude and it annoys the shiffttt out of me..
Hmm mine quickfixes do not show up on the tt6 gps status screen (i know the spots supose to be blue things, but i only see a few gray ones.
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Absolutely not!
Yes although if it rattles, they will try and say you've dropped it.
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if it is rattling, put your finger on the track-ball and the track-wheel. This is what is rattling on my device.
Good luck
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Chaps/Ladies (do we have any?!),
I've been using TT5 for a couple of weeks now, and have a strange problem! Every now and then, randomly, TT5 will just exit whilst navigating. I drove 170 miles yesterday and it closed itself four times, the phone was off on three of the four occasions, as was wifi and BT.
I've also had it freeze once or twice. The display just stops updating, though I can still tap the screen and exit cleanly. This used to happen more frequently with TT3.
I've only run TT5 on the new 1.40 ROM.
Anyone else suffering?
TIA
Dan
I have the same problem. Also running 1.40, tomtom sometimes just exists
d3vil said:
I have the same problem. Also running 1.40, tomtom sometimes just exists
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Argh! Another quirk. I think I'm gonna sell my XDA2s on Ebay, and buy a map, a diary, and a Nokia 1110. :lol:
I use TT5 daily & have never had a problem with it exiting. The display occasionally freezes, butI think I can put this down to when the traffic info is being updated because it only happens occasionally & it unfreezes after about 30 seconds or so
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I use TT5 daily & have never had a problem with it exiting. The display occasionally freezes, butI think I can put this down to when the traffic info is being updated because it only happens occasionally & it unfreezes after about 30 seconds or so
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Are you on the same ROM as us, 1.40? I don't use TomTom Traffic, so that can't be related to my problem.
Thanks for replying
Dan
Off topic
I have a question and it's off topic (sorry guys) Can you use TomTom 5 for just driving directions? Do you need to have the GPS unit?
Are you on the same ROM as us, 1.40? I don't use TomTom Traffic, so that can't be related to my problem.
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I'm on a "standard" O2 UK ROM
ROM 1.31.00 WWE dated 13 December 2004
Radio 1.06
ExtROM 1.31.139 WWE
I have a question and it's off topic (sorry guys) Can you use TomTom 5 for just driving directions? Do you need to have the GPS unit?
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My experience is that TomTom 5 will not start calculating a route without a valid GPS device attached - I'm just going to verify that though
I have a question and it's off topic (sorry guys) Can you use TomTom 5 for just driving directions? Do you need to have the GPS unit?
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Well that shows how much I know about TomTom 5 . It is definitely possible to generate driving instructions without a GPS device attached 8) .
Go into the "Advanced Planning" option and simply pick your start and end points. You will then have a route that you can display as text, images etc, or even "demo" the route i.e. simulate it at speeds from 10% to 500% of "real time"
to: efcmandan
I had same problem. Try to switch off showing a POI. I switch it off and TT5 works fine.
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Panther16 said:
I had same problem. Try to switch off showing a POI. I switch it off and TT5 works fine.
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Ah right Which POI? Or just all POI's?
Thanks
Dan
I switch off all POI.
Thank you.
Thanks Weasel. I'll go ahead and load TomTom5 before my GPS arrives.
I have an XDA IIs with TT3, after i first installed it noticed it would crash randomly, which became really really annoying. After messing around with settings and 3rd-party software, i got nowhere. So I removed the **** O2 software that comes with the IIs, low and behold no more crashing.
Is this also the case for TT5, I would like to know before upgrading?
Don't really want to have to turn off the POI's to make it work.
This is all pretty interesting. I'm running a 1.40 O2 ROM and TomTom is not-as-stable-as-it-could-be. I'm going to do some more qualitative analysis to try and work out which of the crappy O2 software is the culprit - or if it's TomTom itself.
We've got quite a few XDAIIs here and both of the ones with TomTom are flakey. More details to follow...
[edit] Should have said - this is TomTom Navigator 5, with both bluetooth and wired GPS receivers.
AFAIK, the O2 Active software produces a memory leak. There are suggestions that TTN5 also produces a memory leak on 640x480 VGA devices. Perhaps the two are interacting? (Yes I know the XDA2s isn't VGA). Try monitoring available RAM while TTN5 is running. If it constantly reduces it will reach a point where the s/w crashes.
Where are we?
@ all:
Anyone know a solution to this problem? Apparently we need to use the POI.dat file from earlier installations, i.e. 4 or 3 and it will only crash 1% of the time. Until there is a patch for this we will have to settle for this solution it seems.
BTW, does anyone happen to have the POI.dat file for the Benelux map, version 3 or 4? I seem to have "misplaced" my cd with the map on it, anyone can help a brutha out? PM me?
Cheers in advance!
I've switched off POI ( that's NP for dutch users ) so it's stable now.
Any word on the arrival of a patch for this problem?
poi.dat
resolved poi.
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/TomTom5/poi.dat
FTP link does not work
Can you provide me with the above link that works please?
OK, so I have been reading a lot on the gps capabilities of the vogue, and have seen a lot of things out there like the virser gps dll, reg-hacks, gps kick-start, quick-gps, mmeto, and different gps drivers that can all supposedly change the speed at which the gps can get a lock. on a thread over at xda tabout the quickgps one, they were able to get fixes/locks after only about 20-40 seconds! thats the kind of thing we all need...
there is definitely an awful lot of stuff about it, and i have grown pretty confused i must say. i have a sprint vogue and would REALLY like faster connection times.
if there is ANYONE who has some consolidated facts and real numbers/evidence about what (combination) works best, i would greatly apprecaite it, as im sure would many many others.
even though you may have the urge, plz do not post here for at least 1-2 days if you do not have some good evidence/clear consice instructions on how to improve gps signal quality.
thanks a lot guys!,
Jim.
EDIT: FOUND THE ULTIMATE FIX!! look here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=26410 difference is incredible
i'm using the stock "leaked" ROM for 2+ days without the virser gps dll and without any of the GPS hacks. with Garmin Mobile XT using the GPS Intermediate Driver, i get locks on 7-9 satellites within 30-45 seconds when outside and within 120 seconds when inside. on the flip-side, when using iGO 2006+ with COM 4, it takes 3-6 minutes to get a satellite lock. i used my Sprint Touch to capture this pic on a "recent" west-to-east coast flight....notice the number in the lower left hand corner
I'm using a rom I cooked with the new 3.0x kitchen I cooked using ppcgeeks kitchen ... it's based on the same "leaked" rom .. just customized for me ... anyway ... I get the same kind of lock times listed above ... I use an old version of mapopolis when I travel and google maps while in town (no data connection 5 miles outside of town ... I live in the great wild west ... ya know ... lots of wide open spaces .. LOL) anyway, with google maps I get about 3-5 yards accuracy ... with mapopolis ... maybe a little better ... but always 6-9 satelites ... and no hacks ... I do use htc quick gps ... seems to help
Fuzzy
cortezzi said:
i'm using the stock "leaked" ROM for 2+ days without the virser gps dll and without any of the GPS hacks. with Garmin Mobile XT using the GPS Intermediate Driver, i get locks on 7-9 satellites within 30-45 seconds when outside and within 120 seconds when inside. on the flip-side, when using iGO 2006+ with COM 4, it takes 3-6 minutes to get a satellite lock. i used my Sprint Touch to capture this pic on a "recent" west-to-east coast flight....notice the number in the lower left hand corner
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hmm ok thanks a lot for your detailed response. care to attach/point me to the "GPS Intermediate Driver"? so i can see if that might help out my situation, because i am certainly not getting anything like 7-9 locks within 45 seconds.
also, is this on cold or soft boot/start of gps?
FuzzyWuzHe said:
I'm using a rom I cooked with the new 3.0x kitchen I cooked using ppcgeeks kitchen ... it's based on the same "leaked" rom .. just customized for me ... anyway ... I get the same kind of lock times listed above ... I use an old version of mapopolis when I travel and google maps while in town (no data connection 5 miles outside of town ... I live in the great wild west ... ya know ... lots of wide open spaces .. LOL) anyway, with google maps I get about 3-5 yards accuracy ... with mapopolis ... maybe a little better ... but always 6-9 satelites ... and no hacks ... I do use htc quick gps ... seems to help
Fuzzy
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hmm ok right i see. thanks. i recently cooked a rom (which i have done plenty of times) but with the newest ppckitchen.org kitchen for the vogue, and it is SOOOO SLOW so im not sure if thats what im going to keep using.
cortezzi said:
i'm using the stock "leaked" ROM for 2+ days without the virser gps dll and without any of the GPS hacks. with Garmin Mobile XT using the GPS Intermediate Driver, i get locks on 7-9 satellites within 30-45 seconds when outside and within 120 seconds when inside. on the flip-side, when using iGO 2006+ with COM 4, it takes 3-6 minutes to get a satellite lock. i used my Sprint Touch to capture this pic on a "recent" west-to-east coast flight....notice the number in the lower left hand corner
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When you use Garmin on the GPS Intermediate Driver, don't you get the time/date reset problem? The only time I don't get that problem is when I have it set to COM4. Its really annoying lol.
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When you use Garmin on the GPS Intermediate Driver, don't you get the time/date reset problem? The only time I don't get that problem is when I have it set to COM4. Its really annoying lol.
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i ran into the time/date issue once with the GPS Intermediate Driver (GPSID) when i lost the signal going into an underground parking structure. everytime i attempt to set GPS to COM 4, GM XT searches and searches and searches and seems to never connect. GM XT then defaults back to the GPSID. funny you mention the GPSID-time/date relationship: today, for the first time in 5 months, i ran into the same date/time issue today while using my Samsung BJ II. i'm inclined to believe the recent XT updates introduced this problem.
@jim256 - the GPS Intermediate Driver (GPSID) is (as i understand it) a native WinMo 6.0 driver that included with our respective Touch devices.
Cold start times are always going to be slow. That's why the GPStoday plugin is such a valuable addition! If you haven't tried it yet, you need to take a look at it...
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hmm ok right i see. thanks. i recently cooked a rom (which i have done plenty of times) but with the newest ppckitchen.org kitchen for the vogue, and it is SOOOO SLOW so im not sure if thats what im going to keep using.
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Run the updater and get the Vogue 3.0x Kitchen ... I cooked a ROM that is smokin fast ... gps works great ... I put dcd's uc module in the user section ... all in all it's the best rom I've had ...
Now if only the Vogue had a flash ... would truely love to have a flashlight in my phone ... hehehehe
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Run the updater and get the Vogue 3.0x Kitchen ... I cooked a ROM that is smokin fast ... gps works great ... I put dcd's uc module in the user section ... all in all it's the best rom I've had ...
Now if only the Vogue had a flash ... would truely love to have a flashlight in my phone ... hehehehe
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ya i had it all updated, and was of course using the 3.x kitchen. but i tried it again and all seems well now. either i put something bad in, or didnt hard reset after flashing. but o well im good to go now
thx anyway.
see edit in first post!!
does it really take this long to find a satellite on the vogue? my titan locks in under 5seconds!
t0mmyr said:
does it really take this long to find a satellite on the vogue? my titan locks in under 5seconds!
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see the first post edit, after performing the necessary steps to update the pri it locks in about 5 seconds...
Hi there.
I've searched for this problem and hadn't found much information, maybe some of you had this problem.
The problem is: The GPS software don't receive signal from the GPS receiver, sometimes 1 (to a max of 3 bars) on the satelitte options of the GPS software go up, but no fix. Other times with no apparent reason it works correctly until it goes out again (from some minutes to some days).
I've tried with this softwares, and the same results:
Tom Tom navigator 7
Garmin XT
Ndrive (don't know the version)
and
NoniGPSPlot (it's not a navitation software but should work to test)
I've tried several ROMs, same results.
I've tried to clean the internal antenna contacts and bend them in a way to make a best contact.
Any guess?
Best Regards.
Have you tried updating the quickgps to get a better fix?
Also where are you running the gps from? (home, outside etc.)
Hi, thanks for your reply.
I've tried that, but I think it wouldn't make wonders anyway. One of the times I was able to put it working, was after updating QuickGPS, but now I see it was a coincidence.
I make most of the tries at a balcony I have in my apartment where I can see about 70% of the sky (it already worked there before).
Any more guesses?
Best Regards.
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
I've tried that, but I think it wouldn't make wonders anyway. One of the times I was able to put it working, was after updating QuickGPS, but now I see it was a coincidence.
I make most of the tries at a balcony I have in my apartment where I can see about 70% of the sky (it already worked there before).
Any more guesses?
Best Regards.
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Depending on the location, i have realised you have to move around to get a good fix.
If you move around, say around 2 square meter in you balcony you wont be able to get a precise fix as the satellite will think your are still in the same place. Try walking around with it on the road and see if you get any improvements.
if you still have no luck and since you have tried various roms i would suggest you send it for repair?
I thought that it would be better to be still to get a better fix... It seems I'm wrong.
I'm now trying the original ROM from HTC.
BTW, "as the satellite will think your are still in the same place", I thought the GPS system only receives information from the satellites, am I wrong?
Best Regards.
Sorry i meant the gps reciever
Finally I solved the problem.
Sent my Artemis to service
The main board was replaced, now it works as a charm.
Best Regards.
Hi all,
I have some sort of problem with the GPS. Last Saturday it suddenly wouldn't get a fix at all. I tried taking the battery out and rebooting and still no joy. Then suddenly on Monday it started working again. I was on a flight on Wednesday and it worked on the flight too. About 2 hours later, I was on a train and again, no joy but put it down to maybe some strange coating on the glass. However, I tried again yesterday while out in my car and not a dickybird.
It sounds like a loose connection in the phone or something like this. Does anyone have any photos of where the GPS unit is or how to dis-assemble it to check the firmness of the connection ? Or is there any program that I can load on my TP2 to check what the GPS is actually doing ?
C
championc said:
Hi all,
It sounds like a loose connection in the phone or something like this. Does anyone have any photos of where the GPS unit is or how to dis-assemble it to check the firmness of the connection ? Or is there any program that I can load on my TP2 to check what the GPS is actually doing ?
C
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Having the same sort of issue with GPS on WM6.5... HTC are (well should be) working on but they have so far sent a gps test cab in the last month... which was useless... like you it will work great one minute then 'acquiring satellites' for ages... unless you have dropped and damaged radio would put the tools away for the moment as looks like software related (how WM6.5 manages GPS lock) that is the problem
I've never had a problem before and i've used it both at home and abroad. I'd use it a couple of times every week.
C
People have said upgrading the radio helped or used the GPS hotfix from HTC... Did this myself recently and must admit it seemed to fix the problem...
I'm running Energy ROM 23557 Sense 2.5 Maxmanilla.
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People have said upgrading the radio helped or used the GPS hotfix from HTC... .
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Thought the GPS hotfix on HTC site was for 6.1... so it works on 6.5 as well?...was going to flash the lastest europe 6.5 (with sense 2.5) it has a later radio but have read messaging is slow for some people, as waiting for HTC to fix on Telstra 6.5 is painful
championc said:
Hi all,
I have some sort of problem with the GPS. Last Saturday it suddenly wouldn't get a fix at all. I tried taking the battery out and rebooting and still no joy. Then suddenly on Monday it started working again. I was on a flight on Wednesday and it worked on the flight too. About 2 hours later, I was on a train and again, no joy but put it down to maybe some strange coating on the glass. However, I tried again yesterday while out in my car and not a dickybird.
It sounds like a loose connection in the phone or something like this. Does anyone have any photos of where the GPS unit is or how to dis-assemble it to check the firmness of the connection ? Or is there any program that I can load on my TP2 to check what the GPS is actually doing ?
C
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When you say you can't get a lock, is this in just one particular app, or have you tried multiple GPS-enabled apps? You may need to determine if the device actually isn't seeing any sats, or if your app just isn't playing nice with the com port anymore.
THIS LINK is for Chartcross' GPS Test (free), it can at least tell you if your hardware is getting a lock independent of any nav apps.
Excellent - exactly what I was looking for. I'll test the Chartcross software on the way home tonight.
C
OK, I've got a Yellow circle and it says "GPS Starting up" so obviously doesn't even start to pull down data
Any ideas on what I can do ? Could there be a loose connection somewhere inside the phone ?
C
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OK, I've got a Yellow circle and it says "GPS Starting up" so obviously doesn't even start to pull down data
Any ideas on what I can do ? Could there be a loose connection somewhere inside the phone ?
C
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Did you see it scan through the com ports when it started up? The next thing I would check is the settings (settings-all settings-system-external GPS) and see what it says on the "programs" and "access" tabs
The GPS hardware is a chip that's soldered to the motherboard, so I doubt that's come "loose"...the only other hardware connection that comes into play is the one to whatever antenna the GPS utilizes, but I honestly don't know if uses the same one as the phone/data, or if the chip itself is just a fully integrated receiver
It scanned through the ports and identified it as COM4 and set the speed to 9600. I assume the circle should go green even if the antenna was weak but would be going through the motions of acquiring data.
C
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It scanned through the ports and identified it as COM4 and set the speed to 9600. I assume the circle should go green even if the antenna was weak but would be going through the motions of acquiring data.
C
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If it was seeing any sats, there would be bars in the screen, like the screenshot on their site...so yes it def looks like the phone isn't locking at all. Just to be sure, is your QuickGPS data up to date?
I'd say the next step to try before trying to crack your case open would be to follow ultramag's suggestion and flash to a different radio...some users report drastic improvements in GPS performance after taking that step
championc said:
It scanned through the ports and identified it as COM4 and set the speed to 9600. I assume the circle should go green even if the antenna was weak but would be going through the motions of acquiring data.
C
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How long did you wait? I've noticed that it can take up to 10-15 minutes before it'll lock all of them in and turn green. Are the bars moving at all?
Was running over 30 mins and stayed yellow. Bars never budged. I've had the same radio for the past 6 months at least so can't see why it would suddenly become a problem now.
Looks like my only option might be to open it up and check the connections. Everyone drops their phones now and again and I'm no different so there's every possibility of something having come loose.
Has anyone got a photo of the inside so I know what I'm looking for ? Where is the GPS ?
C
com 4 is correct as is 9600 baud. Likely the issue is with the radio you are using. T Mobile radios seem quite touchy. Try a new radio and see what you get. Start gps test first, get the gps running and locked before opening any program that needs gps to work and you likely will have better performance.
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Was running over 30 mins and stayed yellow. Bars never budged. I've had the same radio for the past 6 months at least so can't see why it would suddenly become a problem now.
Looks like my only option might be to open it up and check the connections. Everyone drops their phones now and again and I'm no different so there's every possibility of something having come loose.
Has anyone got a photo of the inside so I know what I'm looking for ? Where is the GPS ?
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mine was working fine and like you was doubting my hardware... seems strange as my issues started with a software update ...some telcos (Telstra in AU) software conflicts with GPS... I installed a HTC rom from Europe yesterday and GPS is now working great... even now locks while car is in garage.. the HTC Desire just released in AU is also having GPS issues on Telstra 6.5 rom ... so have you tried a rom update? as sounds like may be your issue as well...
I'm running Deepshining Rom X6. I had the previous v12RC running since it was released with no problems. I had radio 4.49.25.17 running all the time but just decided to up this to 4.49.25.77 but still no change. It still says "GPS Starting Up". I must have some sort of loose connection since it wouldn't work last Saturday or Sunday but then worked fine on Monday and Wednesday. However, it hasn't worked again since last Wednesday.
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I just opened up my TP2. Is the GPS chip just to the left of the Camera ? (on the right is the Speaker)
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hello i bought this beautifull phone, but the ****in gps not works!!. I tried with garmin and choose GPS intermediata driver, and then of 3 hours, cant detect any satelite. Same with google maps, if i choose USE GPS. It says seeking gps. then GPS error bla bla.
HELP!! i dont know waht can i do!!
i tried with garmin in N85 and it works perfecly
jufece said:
hello i bought this beautifull phone, but the ****in gps not works!!. I tried with garmin and choose GPS intermediata driver, and then of 3 hours, cant detect any satelite. Same with google maps, if i choose USE GPS. It says seeking gps. then GPS error bla bla.
HELP!! i dont know waht can i do!!
i tried with garmin in N85 and it works perfecly
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have you tried updating 'quick gps' tool?
is 'my location' enabled?
is 'agps' enabled?
maybe try a different com type under gps settings?
sh4d086.
sh4d0w86 said:
have you tried updating 'quick gps' tool?
is 'my location' enabled?
is 'agps' enabled?
maybe try a different com type under gps settings?
sh4d086.
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settings->location-> htc location service? yes
agps-> is enabled
what port??
actually is
GPS program port: COM 4
GPS hardware port: (none) bad ate: 4800
acces: manage gps automatically
jufece said:
settings->location-> htc location service? yes
agps-> is enabled
what port??
actually is
GPS program port: COM 4
GPS hardware port: (none) bad ate: 4800
acces: manage gps automatically
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try com 3. it is a popular port.
i havent ever tried another port. though.
so. cant speak from personal experience.
sh4d0w86.
I sincerely hope you haven't got a dud. I had to have my TP2 warranty exchanged after USB sync was no longer working. The first replacement I got would not find any satellites either.
So back it went, only to be replaced with one that had a badly fitted front bezel ... so much for T-Mobile quality
hello. i tried in com 3...same not works
i did hard reset. Installed google maps, activated gps and stay "seeking gps..." for hours=(((((((((((((
jufece said:
i did hard reset. Installed google maps, activated gps and stay "seeking gps..." for hours=(((((((((((((
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I hate to be the one to point this out, but if you are using a stock ROM and it isn't working, perhaps you should think about doing a warranty repair/exchange. That would seem to be the only thing left if, as I said, you are already using a stock ROM and have done a hard reset.
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I hate to be the one to point this out, but if you are using a stock ROM and it isn't working, perhaps you should think about doing a warranty repair/exchange. That would seem to be the only thing left if, as I said, you are already using a stock ROM and have done a hard reset.
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thats the problem, i cant send it to warranty, because i am not in usa. And im not interesting to pay tax, shipping etc.
Ill have to live with that. So thanks anyway.
jufece said:
thats the problem, i cant send it to warranty, because i am not in usa. And im not interesting to pay tax, shipping etc.
Ill have to live with that. So thanks anyway.
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You always have the option of a bluetooth GPS receiver.
There's a thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523676 with GPS tweaks. Might be out of date though.
I'm not sure if it's in the stock rom but as previously posted make sure you run QuickGPS and download the latest sats. After that run HTC GPStool (google for the cab if it's not installed), click Open Port (mine by default is COm4, 56700 baud rate), then start test. Let it sit a few minutes in an open area (outside). Once satellite used starts increasing stop the test and run Google Maps. Should lock on quickly.
I don't know why GPSTool makes the phone lock on so much quicker, but without running that first i've never gotten a lock on my phone with google/bing.
Toleraen said:
There's a thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523676 with GPS tweaks. Might be out of date though.
I'm not sure if it's in the stock rom but as previously posted make sure you run QuickGPS and download the latest sats. After that run HTC GPStool (google for the cab if it's not installed), click Open Port (mine by default is COm4, 56700 baud rate), then start test. Let it sit a few minutes in an open area (outside). Once satellite used starts increasing stop the test and run Google Maps. Should lock on quickly.
I don't know why GPSTool makes the phone lock on so much quicker, but without running that first i've never gotten a lock on my phone with google/bing.
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hello i already tried with htc gps tools, a few days ago, but it couldn find any satellite in that moment.
Ill try again tomorow, thanks for help
Hmm. If you run the HTC GPSTools for several minutes (~10 minutes) does the device start to get hot? That might help indicate that the hardware is working to power GPS antenna. Just kind of a wild guess though.
Toleraen said:
Hmm. If you run the HTC GPSTools for several minutes (~10 minutes) does the device start to get hot? That might help indicate that the hardware is working to power GPS antenna. Just kind of a wild guess though.
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This is the simplest way to test for a hardware failure. The GPS in the unit draws considerably more power while trying to locate a signal. If the device warms up noticeably within about 15 minutes or so, this will tell you whether the GPS is even activating at all.
i tried again with the gps tool, and it not works. Device is not hot, and google maps keeps seeking gps
edit: hello i was scared, and maybe i did **** on my pants, but i flashed a new rom on phone, ill try with gps again on the morning
edit2: gps still not working,
Satellite Viewed: 16 Satellite Used: 0
jufece said:
i tried again with the gps tool, and it not works. Device is not hot, and google maps keeps seeking gps
edit: hello i was scared, and maybe i did **** on my pants, but i flashed a new rom on phone, ill try with gps again on the morning
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Well, if the device wasn't getting noticeably warmer while seeking, then the hardware is very likely at fault. I would recommend that you try to have it repaired under the warranty. If you would rather live with it, then there are plenty of Bluetooth GPS receivers out there that will work wonderfully.
As i say warranty is not an option for me. Well, i really dont need the gps for now.
And yeah i can live with this sh.. just kidding, i love my phone and always will love it
thanks for all help
jufece said:
thats the problem, i cant send it to warranty, because i am not in usa. And im not interesting to pay tax, shipping etc.
Ill have to live with that. So thanks anyway.
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I had a similar issue. I installed the Energy ROM and it fixed all my issues.
easy fix
The fix is very simple. Go to start/settings/home and turn SENSE/TOUCHFLO off. Now turn on google maps and set your phone somewhere and after it says active close google maps, turn SENSE back on and repeat the first step. For some reason on some roms the GPS will not work with SENSE 2.1 or SENSE 2.5 unless you lock sats with SENSE off forst then it with work with SENSE on.
porkenhimer said:
The fix is very simple. Go to start/settings/home and turn SENSE/TOUCHFLO off. Now turn on google maps and set your phone somewhere and after it says active close google maps, turn SENSE back on and repeat the first step. For some reason on some roms the GPS will not work with SENSE 2.1 or SENSE 2.5 unless you lock sats with SENSE off forst then it with work with SENSE on.
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wtf!!!! who are youu? a ****in genious
i turned off sence, then google maps, but after 1 minute i was bored. Closed it, and open the GPS Viewer that came in rom. After 1 minute it shows 1 satelite, 10 seconds later 2 sat. Ill try with google again, i think just needing the correct settings. So thanks a lot. Illpost results here, tomorow