Hi Guys, first post so take it easy!
I recently purchased an Asus P535 with the primary intended use as a PDA that can interface with the Rockford Fosgate 3Sixty.2 Processor that runs the Audio system in my car. The 3Sixty software is best run from a Palm or WM equipped PDA, and connects via bluetooth. Unfortunately, it seems that the Software written for the 3Sixty will only run on Windows Mobiles that have the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack, which so that counts out the P535 as it uses the Widcomm stack. I wouldn't have bought this model PDA if I was made aware of this minor foible.
I don't care if I have to pay for some software or an emulator as I have already outlayed AUD$700 on this phone, and am not too keen on getting rid of it in a hurry...
Cheer's.
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What a fantastic site. The pda is so incredibly clever and on the i-mate site I have recently upgraded the rom version which includes a radio upgrade.
Can anyone explain if it will be possible to upgrade the telephone to have the voice activated facility that allows you to speak in to a bluetooth handsfree kit and set up a unique number to get the telephone to dial automatically ?
I know that in Canada and the USA Microsoft have a new ?? [not really new now] product called Voice Command which I can't wait for which will allow you to do all kinds of amazing things with the telephone, the appointments and other parts of the pda which will make it much safer to use on the road.
The only poor part of the upgrade from i-mate [i-mate.com] is I am sure that the Bluetooth Navman 4100 GPS unit and the GPS TomTom3 software are 'hanging' more often which is annoying - any suggestions please ?
Than you for an excellent site.
Charles
look for the vidcomm bluetooth stack maybe it support it
ms bluetooth stack dont and i'm not sure if they are planing on inc their profile support ms dont seem to like bluetooth much as with other techs they dident have a hand in bringing about
cccfood said:
What a fantastic site. The pda is so incredibly clever and on the i-mate site I have recently upgraded the rom version which includes a radio upgrade.
Can anyone explain if it will be possible to upgrade the telephone to have the voice activated facility that allows you to speak in to a bluetooth handsfree kit and set up a unique number to get the telephone to dial automatically ?
I know that in Canada and the USA Microsoft have a new ?? [not really new now] product called Voice Command which I can't wait for which will allow you to do all kinds of amazing things with the telephone, the appointments and other parts of the pda which will make it much safer to use on the road.
The only poor part of the upgrade from i-mate [i-mate.com] is I am sure that the Bluetooth Navman 4100 GPS unit and the GPS TomTom3 software are 'hanging' more often which is annoying - any suggestions please ?
Than you for an excellent site.
Charles
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I was using MS Voice Command on my iMate PPC Phone edition. It wasn't a very happy marriage. My iMate would hang to the point where it needed a hard reset about once every or every other week. After a call to iMate tech support and removing the MS Voice Command as suggested, my iMate is much much more stable. Prior to using MS Voice Command with the iMate, I was using it with a T-Mobile PPC Phone Edition. It worked flawlessly. So based on that and other similar experiences (SimCity2000 worked on the t-mo device but not on the iMate) I can't help but suspect the iMate for not being terribly compatible with several different software titles.
Thanks for your information about the voice command - really sad to hear the i-mate doesn't work with it - I won't buy it !
Kind regards
Vito
Why don't you try Vito Voice Dialer PE ?
Guys what are you talking about !! Can't you see that everyone of you is using different ROM!!! But the hardware is still the same !! HIMALAYA.
Imate,XDA2,T-Mobile MDA2,Qtek2020... has the same hardware!
Microsoft Voice Command works with WM2003. It is good as long as the quantity of contacts you have is limited. In larger quantities, confusion starts! (besides the fact that you have to pronounce the names in a typical american accent)
Vito Voice Dialer has 2 different phone edition versions (one for XDA and one for XDAII). Each number has to be trained, but then you can use nicknames and aliases, and it works.
I just bought my htc p3600i preloaded with WM6 yesterday. I intent to use this device as my pda and data device only, while I am having another phone, i.e nokia 8800 black as my talking phone (1st phone).
Well, probably i am not quite 'alone' using 2 phones together with me all the time, but I feel that it is so convenient that way, talking only using my 1st phone (nokia 8800) while the pda (htc p3600i) was used only to take notes, appointments, accessing the web, downloading my e-mail and I am enjoyed using my 3rd party sms software (Simple SMS v5) which was installed in the pda to send and receive sms via my 1st phone, nokia 8800 through bluetooth connection. I usually left my pda togeher with my working headache on sunday, and just bring my handphone, which makes me happier having it that way.
My problem is, since i bought the htc p3600i yesterday, I couldn't use my pda to send and receive sms via bluetooth through my 1st phone anymore, just like using my previous Asus P535 running WM5. I realise that there is not much 'Bluetooth Serial Port' services shown in any of its communication port anymore, not like the previous Asus P535 having WM5, while connecting and pairing it to my nokia phone. The only bluetooth service available on my new pda was 'Serial Port' and 'Dialup Networking', compare to 'Com 1' on my previous WM5 device.
Could somebody help me on my silly problem that I have, before I drop a bricks on my new pda, and start telling me what to do next. I got a feeling that the WM6 doesn't allow the connection anymore, rather than the device is not compatible due to some reason. Or, shall I downgrade my device back to WM5, but how?
I feel that the technology is changing TOO fast, without letting me make any savings to purchase another new device.
Thank you fella.
Hmmm..very sad that nobody have answered my question..
Until I finally found myself the answer, HTC Trinity Plus (p3600i) is using 'Microsoft Bluetooth Stack', comparing to my previous device using 'Widcomm Bluetooth Stack'..
But where can I found Widcomm Bluetooth Stack which is compatible with HTC Trinity Plus (HTC P3600i) running WM6 to hack MS Bluetooth Stack?
I want to be able to tether my Axim x51v up to my cell phone using bluetooth so I can access the internet occasionally. I tried to install the WIDCOMM bluetooth stack and then the x51v was no longer visible by Vista's Windows Mobile Device Center. I ended up doing a hard reset and am back to the Microsoft bluetooth stack which is so limited in comparison. Anyone have any suggestions?
I am using WIDCOMM bluetooth stack install work with Dell Axim x51v WM6 (Football), I can connect to my cell phone using bluetooth and access the internet...
rolwu: can you go into settings --> connections --> usb to pc and try to uncheck 'enable advanced network functionality' and tell me what happens please? also, do you still have a 'bluetooth explorer' icon in programs? what happens if you click on that icon? just a couple of the problems that i had right off the bat with the widcomm bluetooth stack and want to see if you have them as well. it is very possible that i installed it wrong or just did something incorrectly. thanks!
Broadcomm stack works on my ROM and works fine
Football said:
Broadcomm stack works on my ROM and works fine
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Yes it works!!!!
Hi Football, are you planning to remove the old Microsoft Stack ? It would be nice to release also a Widcomm enabled ROM...
Cheers!
Football: first of all, thank you for the work you did to create the great WM6 image for the Axim x51v. You have breathed new life into my old device.
If you would not mind Football, would you please give me a link to the Broadcomm stack that you installed and instructions, or a link to a thread that provides instructions, on how to install it? For some reason the one that I installed, Widcomm (which I assume is the same as Broadcomm), did not work properly.
Oh, and do you have a paypal account Football? I would not mind sending you a small gift as a token of my appreciation for your efforts.
I went ahead and tried to install the BroadcomBluetoothStackX51V05 from aximsite (which I assume is the correct one to use) and performed a soft reset as instructed. I then made the change to the registry to set the flow control value to '0' (not sure if that is still required). However, I have a few problems using this bluetooth stack:
(a) The Axim will no longer synchronize with Windows Mobile Device Center (using Vista Ultimate). If someone can please explain how to get this working I would appreciate it.
(b) If I go into Settings --> Connections --> USB to PC, I can not uncheck the 'Enable advanced network functionality' or I get this error - "Failed to disable RNDIS to use Serial." It was suggested to uncheck this in other posts related to troubleshooting failed connections with WMDC.
(c) Programs --> Bluetooth Explorer, when launched tells me that "Bluetooth radio is turned off. Do you want to turn it on?" Bluetooth is already on but I select 'Yes' and eventually it tells me "Failed to turn on Bluetooth radio."
These are the problems I have noticed so far. Do others who are using this Bluetooth stack have the same problems with the WM6 A03 ROM? Can you synchronize with Windows Mobile Device Center?
I appreciate you help and feedback.
Hi djlenoir...
I installed the Widcomm stack from Aximsite and I also experienced same problems as you...
The '0' in the registry is not required for normal operation I think. The Hardware Flow Control must be disabled only if you connect an A2DP device to improve performance and stabilty. I'm having issue about point (c) as you and I think the BT explorer only works with MS Stack... When I tried It, also created a useless bluetooth device folder(same as CF or SD) in the file explorer wich I had to remove deleting a startup menu shortcut created by the system. Another issue is the BT Obex file transfer speed wich cannot be sustained at so high default speed (I'm having chopping between 2 and 60 KB/s. Reverting to slow speed using BTSpeedSwitcher seems to solve the problem but speed si only 28-30 KB/s. Tryed with MANY BT dongles and different PC stack (Widcomm, M$, Bluesoleil).
Cheers
Football Add The BroadCom Bluetooth Stack To Your New WM6 A05 ROM
Yes, the broadcom bluetooth stack works perfect with the X51v running Football's wm6 RTM A03 ROM. Now Football all you need to do now is add the broadcom bluetooth stack to your new wm6 A05 ROM! It's got the perfect setup for SKYPE!
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Yes, the broadcom bluetooth stack works perfect with the X51v running Football's wm6 RTM A03 ROM. Now Football all you need to do now is add the broadcom bluetooth stack to your new wm6 A05 ROM! It's got the perfect setup for SKYPE!
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I feel the opposite and prefer to leave MS BT stack since we can always install the Broadcom stack whenever we like. In fact, I found the A2DP sound quality a lot better from the original stack
BroadCom Bluetooth Stereo Sound Quality, The Better Of The Two!
jackleung said:
I feel the opposite and prefer to leave MS BT stack since we can always install the Broadcom stack whenever we like. In fact, I found the A2DP sound quality a lot better from the original stack
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With out a doubt, the broadcom bluetooth stack has better stereo sound quality, than the Microsoft bluetooth stack, that's plain to see and hear. Plus I use the broadcom bluetooth stack to make VOIP (SKYPE) phone calls but I cannot do that with the Microsoft bluetooth stack.
Bluetooth {DUN"} Via Smartphone And The x51v Running The BroadCom Bluetooth Stack!
rolwu said:
I am using WIDCOMM bluetooth stack install work with Dell Axim x51v WM6 (Football), I can connect to my cell phone using bluetooth and access the internet...
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Read my thread in the Excalibur forum on how I installed the bluetooth Dun.cab file on my T-Mobile Dash, now I can pair both devices (my X51v and my T-Mobile Dash) via bluetooth Dun, go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340762 and get the bluetooth Dun.cab file download and complete details, works like a charm...............!
Technology said:
With out a doubt, the broadcom bluetooth stack has better stereo sound quality, than the Microsoft bluetooth stack, that's plain to see and hear. Plus I use the broadcom bluetooth stack to make VOIP (SKYPE) phone calls but I cannot do that with the Microsoft bluetooth stack.
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It's only without "your" doubt. Not to mention a serious bug in broadcom A2DP (across all PDA I tested) which system volume adjustment is not working. I found my SE HBH-DS220 a lot worse than the original MS stack on x51v. (But the same handset works very good w/ my Asus P525 which also has use broadcom stack. Maybe some tweak is need...)
Since different people got different need, it's better to leave it and have the user to install broadcom stack as needed
Menneisyys And Mike Spikle Were The First To Come With The Broadcom BT Stack!
jackleung said:
It's only without "your" doubt. Not to mention a serious bug in broadcom A2DP (across all PDA I tested) which system volume adjustment is not working. I found my SE HBH-DS220 a lot worse than the original MS stack on x51v. (But the same handset works very good w/ my Asus P525 which also has use broadcom stack. Maybe some tweak is need...)
Since different people got different need, it's better to leave it and have the user to install broadcom stack as needed
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I have been using the Broadcom bluetooth stack way back before Dell ever thought of a x51v! We only had the X50v back then in those days! (Old School) Menneisyys and his friend Mike Spikle were the first ones to introduce the Broadcomm bluetooth stack and I still have the same download of their first original fix with the bluetoothspeedswitcher.zip and the flowcontrolhack.reg on both of my x51v's. I have never had a skipping problem, the stereo sound is perfect. Menneeisyys uses the Plantronics 590A bluetooth headset and I also use the same headset for that perfect stereo sound quality. Maybe, you are using a different broadcom bluetooth stack, than what we are using, because I have no problem using the volume control (high or low) again it works like a charm and always has.................!
Hi,
I´ve bought a car with a 7" multimedia radio made by "Timeless".
The software of this receiver is based on a windows mobile 5.0 OS.
Unfortunately the radio software ist without RDS and AF.
Does anybody know, how I can upgrade this software?
Do I need a completely new rom or is ist possible to install a new radio software?
Thanks in advance
Greeetz
Micha
This stuff is completely outside of the scope of xda-developers.com. We only deal with phones here
I have several Axim X50, X50v, X51, and X51v PPC's that I could really use with some older measurement devices, using bluetooth to transfer from the devices to Pocket Excel. Some are running WM2003 (latest ROM A06) and some are running WM5 latest ROM A12). There are 2 versions of Bluetooth running on these devices, and some of each O/S have the version I need.
The devices which use Broadcom Bluetooth for Windows CE (BT-PPC Version 1.7.1 Build 3400) work perfectly. The Bluetooth Icon brings up (literally) a menu with choices 1 - Turn Bluetooth On or Off, 2 - Bluetooth Manager, and 3 - Bluetooth Settings). Pairing devices with this particular stack is quick and stable. This version is also installed on several Axim X30 units I have, and all of them function well. This version is installed randomly on the X50/X51 units, and is not linked to the O/S version (some 2003SE have it, some WM5 as well, but most of the X50/X51 units have the version described in the next paragraph.
Other units with a different version of Bluetooth (not described on the devices) have choices for setting up devices, Inbound and Outbound ports, etc. from a full white screen with radiobox choices only to turn Bluetooth ON or make the unit discoverable to other devices. This version works, but is very unreliable and drops connections repeatedly.
Since all links to WM5, WM6 and later ROM's seem to be dead on all sites such as xda developers and aximsite is gone, are there any remaining sources for these ROM updates or firmware to install or upgrade/downgrade the Broadcom Bluetooth to the version listed above?
I realize that there are probably very few of these in use nowadays, but I own them and they could be very useful if they all had the Broadcom Bluetooth version I have described, or one that works in a similar fashion.
Any insite would be most appreciated.
Thanks!