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BLUETOOTH STACK - please please help me

I have read every post about MS bluetooth stack vs widcomm etc....
I know someone can build a cab file that will uninstall the MS one and replace with the newest widcomm stack.
I LOVE my universal but I carry TWO phones with me because the universal's connection via bluetooth is not PERFECT for phone calls like the blackberry (oh i fking hate the blackberry for everything else).
I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to use only my Universal but the static on bluetooth KILLS me because I am on the phone 10 hours a day.
PLEASE please help me. Fish

This file fix Blue Tooth

Bluetooth stack
I would second Fish's comments about the Univerasl and the Bluetooth stack. I have bluetooth in my car and it is great WHEN it works. When it doesn't work it takes a lot of tinkering to get the car to recognize the phone again. I'm of course not sure if the issue is on the Universal side, but Bluetooth turns it self off, so there is some kind of problem. I have tried different radios, currently 1.13 (tried 1.14 as well, but went back). I'm very interested in finding a solution (not using two phones), can you please provide some detail on what the CAB file does to Bluetooth?
Thanks,
Sven

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This file fix Blue Tooth
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What exactly does this file fix/change ?
I've just installed the WM6 crossbow helmi_c version
do I still need this file ?

This is a Stack changer to change from MS BT stack to Cambridge Silicon Radio BT stack. Originally developed for Dell AXIM (about what I've found). Seems to work fine there, but need to uninstall/reinstall after every soft-reset because of a volume lock bug.
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=392&more=1
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=108767&page=1

UPDATE
Do not install this patch yet. It is over a year old.
Follow the development/information on Widcomm BT Stack instead. Following links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279236
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285696
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1073003

SO this is a different BT stack then the original MS and the widecomm ?

Daelyn said:
UPDATE
Do not install this patch yet. It is over a year old.
Follow the development/information on Widcomm BT Stack instead. Following links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279236
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285696
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1073003
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True
reading the posts in the forum he linked:
12-12-05, 09:57 PM
I'd rather go with the widecomm BT

I installed the Hermes Widcomm BT stack on my Universal. Sound is great, but the rest is troublesome. We need a developer to fix the code for us so it works on the UNiversal .
Check my thread in UNiversal/accessories. Or move that thread over here please!

Daelyn said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419&page=20
Tried out BT Stack change for Hermes patch/program.
TEST RESULTS ON UNIVERSAL WITH WM6 (Midget aka Helmi unreleased)
Sound IS great. But other than that, this program does not work very well on my device. Of course this is designed for Hermes but I gave it a shot.
Issues:
1:
Screen flickers (only when this BT is turned on).
Flickers really bad and unable to use device.
Fix: set the device to standby (power button) and wake it up again. Flickering gone
2:
Once BT is deactivated for a few minutes I can't start it again.
Fix: No fix found yet. Only a Soft-reset and directly activate BT works.
3:
I can't use my GSM/UMTS connection anymore. Trying endlessly. Even after soft-reset's I can't connect. WiFi works fine though.
Fix: No fix found yet.
4:
Unable to uninstall this program. Tried several times. I get to the "Soft Reset Device Yes/Cancel". I soft reset, program still there and working.
5:
Hard-Reset, complete setup with WAP, MMS, MAIL etc.
Installed Widcomm BT Stack again.
Soft-reset:
Screen flickering (fix)
No 3G/UMTS connection avalible anymore. Even when BT stack is completly shut down.
We need a specific one for our Universal. Who's up to fixing this for us?
KEEPING this post updated.
EDIT 06: 18:40 @ 21/01/07
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Quoted from my A2DP/AVRCP thread in accessories.

Even with the new WM6 roms - I have tried ALLLLLLLLLL of them the bluetooth phone quality sucks.
I am using the new Pdaviet 2.0.03 (something like that) and i have tried
THREE different headsets
Jabra BT250v
Jabra BT500
Jabra BT500v
All have the same crackly sound issue. But with my blackberry (ass phone, i HATE it) the sound is PERFECT.
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of carrying two phones with me - i can not live without my memory (or i mean the universal, which i use as my personal assistant). But my clients can not live with the quality of the phone call connection. Now if I do not use my bluetooth and hold the GIANT universal up to my head (kinda like a military field radio) then the clarity of the call is great.
It is the Bluetooth stack i am 100% sure of it.
OMG Helmi_c let me have your widcomm stack PLEASE I will even pay you for it.

xixfishxix said:
Even with the new WM6 roms - I have tried ALLLLLLLLLL of them the bluetooth phone quality sucks.
I am using the new Pdaviet 2.0.03 (something like that) and i have tried
THREE different headsets
Jabra BT250v
Jabra BT500
Jabra BT500v
All have the same crackly sound issue. But with my blackberry (ass phone, i HATE it) the sound is PERFECT.
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of carrying two phones with me - i can not live without my memory (or i mean the universal, which i use as my personal assistant). But my clients can not live with the quality of the phone call connection. Now if I do not use my bluetooth and hold the GIANT universal up to my head (kinda like a military field radio) then the clarity of the call is great.
It is the Bluetooth stack i am 100% sure of it.
OMG Helmi_c let me have your widcomm stack PLEASE I will even pay you for it.
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try this link
it may help
http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/increase_bluetooth_volume
frz

Thanks for the info
I changed the channel in the registry of the device to channel 5 as suggested on that webpage. It was the same quality. I then tried a few other channels and the same results - connection quality still staticy.
Thank you very much for trying to help me though. Fish

xixfishxix said:
Even with the new WM6 roms - I have tried ALLLLLLLLLL of them the bluetooth phone quality sucks.
I am using the new Pdaviet 2.0.03 (something like that) and i have tried
THREE different headsets
Jabra BT250v
Jabra BT500
Jabra BT500v
All have the same crackly sound issue. But with my blackberry (ass phone, i HATE it) the sound is PERFECT.
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of carrying two phones with me - i can not live without my memory (or i mean the universal, which i use as my personal assistant). But my clients can not live with the quality of the phone call connection. Now if I do not use my bluetooth and hold the GIANT universal up to my head (kinda like a military field radio) then the clarity of the call is great.
It is the Bluetooth stack i am 100% sure of it.
OMG Helmi_c let me have your widcomm stack PLEASE I will even pay you for it.
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I'm also worried with the same issue, because I've exactly the same problem. But I don't think only altering of BT stack should fix the problem. My understanding is, something is also to be done in radio (rom) side itself. Because I was using a different radio rom last year at about May or June and my BT headset worked perfect. But I can't remember now about what build that was, because later on I've updated my radio to few other releases.

Radio rom has NOTHING to do with the Bluetooth or Wifi - It's ONLY the firmware for the GSM chip.

xixfishxix said:
Even with the new WM6 roms - I have tried ALLLLLLLLLL of them the bluetooth phone quality sucks.
I am using the new Pdaviet 2.0.03 (something like that) and i have tried
THREE different headsets
Jabra BT250v
Jabra BT500
Jabra BT500v
All have the same crackly sound issue. But with my blackberry (ass phone, i HATE it) the sound is PERFECT.
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of carrying two phones with me - i can not live without my memory (or i mean the universal, which i use as my personal assistant). But my clients can not live with the quality of the phone call connection. Now if I do not use my bluetooth and hold the GIANT universal up to my head (kinda like a military field radio) then the clarity of the call is great.
It is the Bluetooth stack i am 100% sure of it.
OMG Helmi_c let me have your widcomm stack PLEASE I will even pay you for it.
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We know the MS BT stack is crappy. I found out today that Helmi_c is developing one. But, still, this thread should be more about how to resolve the BT stack change (or just shut it until our friend Helmi_c finishes his school stuff and gets back to being the ROM-N3rd in need of more RAM that we all love so much) than bringing up more issues about the MS BT stack.
Thanks.

guys,tried almost all roms on my universal,some of them works a few days,after 3 months i flashed with the good old official rom,better and stable than all
anyway,the only reason for this waste of time was this a2dp issue,being not able to listen music to my motorokr(tested with 2 laptops and 2 htc,working great)
so i think is just some kind of incompatibility motorokr-universal(yes,i try all the a2dp hacks/registry editing found here

Using PAN and Internet Sharing

Maybe I am missing something here. I used to use the DUN with my 8525 and never had a problem with my laptop. I flashed today with XDA .20 and can not figure out how to work the new PAN. I tried everything and just can not get it to work. Am I missing something?

Use the internet sharing app. If you are tethering via USB make sure to disable bluetooth or your device won't get a DHCP lease from the PAN driver.

I have a problem connect Via bluetooth using Internet Sharing with all version of WM6. When pair with the PC, the PC can only transfer file with my 8525 only. But when using Cingular 3.3 aku my PC can find Serial port profile and connect to Internet Sharing.
Does anyone know a registry fix for this?, I am using a Sony laptop with build in toshiba bluetooth stack. When went back to 3.3 aku internet sharing Via bluetooth work again.
Thanks

tandao said:
I have a problem connect Via bluetooth using Internet Sharing with all version of WM6. When pair with the PC, the PC can only transfer file with my 8525 only. But when using Cingular 3.3 aku my PC can find Serial port profile and connect to Internet Sharing.
Does anyone know a registry fix for this?, I am using a Sony laptop with build in toshiba bluetooth stack. When went back to 3.3 aku internet sharing Via bluetooth work again.
Thanks
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Now I dont feel so bad - this is exactly what is happening to me.

bluetooth PAN does NOT works with toshiba stack! upgrade your laptop to Vista and don't install toshiba stack! Vista (microsoft) stack works!

netnerd said:
bluetooth PAN does NOT works with toshiba stack! upgrade your laptop to Vista and don't install toshiba stack! Vista (microsoft) stack works!
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I have vista and winxp with toshiba stack on the same laptop (dual boot), both doesn't work with all version of WM6 available here, but it work with 3.3 aku cingular rom.
Where can I find MS stack? when I unintalled toshiba stack, all the driver for the bluetooth is gone.
Edit: Thanks for the tips, I finally get it to work VIA bluetooth, the problem is the toshiba bluetooth stack. I uninstalled the toshiba stack, and do and manually driver installed and choose Toshiba as the manufacture, and intergrate bluetooth, Vista find a driver for it and activate the MS stack.

The issue with the Toshiba stack is this:
The auto discovery is the only way to set up services. However, the PAN service doesn't display unless the devices are paired. Toshiba can only Pair with devices seen during discovery....
Its a damn catch-22....

Sleuth255 said:
The issue with the Toshiba stack is this:
The auto discovery is the only way to set up services. However, the PAN service doesn't display unless the devices are paired. Toshiba can only Pair with devices seen during discovery....
Its a damn catch-22....
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screw the toshiba stack! just dont install that junk, Vista will automally install Microsoft bluetooth stack!

Can someone please detail the steps on how to get Internet Sharing via bluetooth for either XP or vista?
TIA!

Interestingly, there's a help topic in WM6 that explains this! Tap Start->help and then choose "search"
Now search for "Internet sharing". How to set up the m$ bt stack on your desktop is explained there.

M$ stack
I just have the same prob. on my laptop with XP SP2 and toshiba BT stack...
how can i fix the drivers for M$ BT stack without install VISTA ???
THX in advance
vdavide

Since upgrading to WM6 Black, I can't seem to get the Wireless Modem (internet sharing) to work. I am using a USB cable but when I start the DUN on the PC, it says there is no modem installed.

found the answer elsewhere - if you are using USB turn off BT on the device!
obvious really (?)

replacing Toshiba BT stack with Microsoft
Hey, I cant vouch for this since i dont have a toshiba but thought i might pass this on. hope it helps.
http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/su/su_sc_dtlViewDL.jsp?soid=841048

Is there any way to use old wmodem from WM5 on WM6. I have public ip and im afraid that using Internet Sharing make that i will be behind nat? If i think correctly? /dont have wm6 on hermes/

warmkiwi99 said:
Since upgrading to WM6 Black, I can't seem to get the Wireless Modem (internet sharing) to work. I am using a USB cable but when I start the DUN on the PC, it says there is no modem installed.
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Hey bud, Microsoft ditched DUN in WM6. If you have the drivers installed properly (included with Activesync 4.5) you should see a new LAN connection in your Network Connections. In Windows XP it should be described as "Windows Mobile-based Internet Sharing Device" If you don't have the driver installed you will see Generic RNDIS in your Device Manager. From what i understand if you have Vista installed on your computer these drivers come stock (on the Final full version of Vista, not included by default on RC1, not sure about RC2)
hope this helps...

PAN with toshiba stack
I downloaded an updated bluetooth stack from
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/download.php
and it worked fine.
Pair hermes with computer. First turn on internetsharing then connect using pan profile.

TheLuggs said:
I downloaded an updated bluetooth stack from
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/download.php
and it worked fine.
Pair hermes with computer. First turn on internetsharing then connect using pan profile.
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... mmm interesting ... wich version of toshiba stack you used ? and wich version of WM6 on your device ?
I tried the very latest version of toshiba stack with LVSW first WM6 version but doesn't work .... only the M$ stack work ( fine too ).
Bye
vdavide

vdavide said:
... mmm interesting ... wich version of toshiba stack you used ? and wich version of WM6 on your device ?
I tried the very latest version of toshiba stack with LVSW first WM6 version but doesn't work .... only the M$ stack work ( fine too ).
Bye
vdavide
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Bluetooth stack:
v5.10.06
bluetooth spec:
2.0,1.2,1.1
with jasjamming's WM6 Black 2.0
works like a charm, couldn't get it to work wit the older toshiba stack supplied by asus (3.03.04)

TheLuggs said:
Bluetooth stack:
v5.10.06
bluetooth spec:
2.0,1.2,1.1
with jasjamming's WM6 Black 2.0
works like a charm, couldn't get it to work wit the older toshiba stack supplied by asus (3.03.04)
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i tried the v 5.10.06 too on my asus but still can't connect to my tytn WM6 LVSW first release .... maybe the different WM6 is the key of this problem...
wich options u use in the toshiba stack ( security level and so on ) ?
i tried high security level that force pairing with device ( and obviously pan enabled) but still get the message " only file tranfer service on the device ..."
i'm interested to get it to work too also if it's working now with m$ stack .
There may be some other users interested too...
THX
vdavide

Bluetooth DUN Profile

Hey all,
I've got a bit of a problem. Since the release of wm5 AKU 3.0, BT DUN is no longer present, instead we are supposed to use BT PAN. I read the articles in which microsoft explains why they removed it, and also that it is optional in WM6. I saw the .cab files in MUN's WM6 thread but I can't get them to work.
I use BT DUN to dial in to my domain with my VPN at the windows logon screen. BT PAN is about as useful as a frying pan in this case because I need to be logged in to connect BT PAN...I think they call that a conundrum
Anyway ever since I've had the trinity I have been using ICS with USB which does auto connect before logon. The thing is I prefer BT because it is just simply more convenient.
If anyone has a solution, either buy adding a working BT DUN profile or with BT PAN I'd really like to know about it.

Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307235

I already read that thread but it's a no go

I also would really need the DUN Profile, but it does not work on mine too...

I just went and tried superdave's widcomm stack for the hermes, no joy though.

I'm running WM6 SE (not TE) and my DUN profile is flawless.
Use it from my TomTom 910, laptop and work PDA.
Wish PAN was supported by other devices so I could use all 3 at once.

what's WM6 SE?
and where can I get it?

MS BT stack Vs. widcomm BT stack?

I am running Footballs WM6 ROM a03 for Axim x51V
I only run two things via BT.
1 is IGO (thinkoutside BOX Ultra trim keyboard) and the other is BT SirfIII GPS with Iguidance 3.01
I can get stowaway keyboard to work with built in BT stack, but I cant get Axim to recoginize My GPS receiver.
If I use the widcommBT stack from Aximsite I can get GPS to recognize but not my keyboard.
Currently have the Broadcome BT drivers as cab and can easily install and unintstall , But I would like to be able to use both under one set of BT drivers.
Anyone help. Thanks!

What's important to you? I have the Widcomm with my x51V Football ROM and Bluetooth GPS & DUN works great. Better interface too!

Downgrade BT stack?

Hi there,
I have HTC Universal and Dell BH-200 stereo bluetooth headset.
Situation:
- WM5 ROM (for example newest KDSkamal) - after a bit of fiddling A2DP works, also HS profile is working
- WM6 ROM (for example Tomal's 8.5, 8.2) - A2DP works after fiddling, unfortunately HS profile's not working - headset turns itself off after 5-10 second of call, during which nothing can be heard
- WM6 ROM + Broadcomm stack - A2DP works flawlessly, HS doesn't.
From what I know, no WM6 device works correctly with Dell BH-200. It's interesting though, that WM5 devices appear to work. Also, I've read here that Broadcomm stack doesn't support HS profile, so out of luck here.
Now, I was trying to just overwrite WM6 BT stack dll's with ones taken from WM5, but it didn't work either - maybe that's because I was doing it rather randomly, without solid knowledge of the matter.
As I see many skilled hackers here, maybe someone would take his/hers time to help me out a bit and figure what has to be done to have working WM5 BT stack on WM6 device?

So I've done some primitive hacking, here are the results. I've been using files extracted from newest T-Mobile WM5 ROM, on my device there is Tomal's 8.5.
First, I just used every bth* dll file I could find and overwritten ones in Windows folder:
bthutil.dll
bthusb.dll
bthuniv.dll
bthuart.dll
bthsc.dll
bthlink.dll
bthidsvc.dll
bthhid.dll
bthcsr.dll
bthasplugin.dll
bthamb.dll
BthAGPhonebook.dll
btdrt.dll
btd.dll
btagsvc.dll
btagext.dll
After this, Uni wasn't even able to turn on GSM - no idea why.
Then I tried with just
BluetoothSetting.dll
btagsvc.dll
btagext.dll
Much better stereo - it works now, before there were lots of noise; also, headphones no longer switch off when receiving phone call; unfortunately, no handsfree support.
Will try more...

OK, false alarm - just found out that I need to force pairing from the headset (using Play/Pause button) and the A2DP works, even without replacing btag[svc|ext].dll. After this sequence A2DP works, but Handsfree doesn't (but at least it doesn't turn off the headphones)

maybe some reason
i have special infomration ..
I have TOmals ROM and i found this ...
if i will turn first bluetooth on my Uni and then i switch on my headpohones - everything works great. Also in my car parrot works perfect - A2DP and also i HF ...
If i will start bluetooth after bluetooth in car or headphones ... then A2DP makes sound pause ... and HF is not so clearly as usually ...
i dont know why .. but it works like this ...so try to switch BT on pohoen first and thne accesorries and youll see ...
Bye

I tried that, but to no avail.
But now the fun part started: if I extract files from Tomal's ROM nbf, they are in different size that the ones _from the same ROM_, just installed on Uni. Even better, if I overwrite installed ones with extracted ones, radio, SD, camera and so on stops working. I wonder where is connection between SD, camera, USB connection and bluetooth...

Now I replaced only btagext.dll (however, I think that all this replacing effects only in disabling replaced dlls...) and best thing I achieved is that
- A2DP works almost flawlessly with Dell BH200 (if I keep correct order of switching devices on)
- HFP works with second device, Sony Ericsson HBH-PV708 (had to disable HFP profile in BH200)
Audio switches when receiving phone call.
Obviously, that's not the best solution (far from it), but it's at least something...