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Universal Upgrading, questions not totally cleared by Wiki and other posts

Dear All,
I spent a lot of hours, days, reading the posts on the forum about the Universal and upgrading it. I didn't find some answers.
I still have some open questions that I request your help in order to have a safe upgrade.
I have a Qtek 9000, that is SimLock.
I would like to Upgrade to an AKU 3.5 ROM or to one Crossbow ROM ( still under assessment)
Now my questions:
To upgrade,
I will have to upgrade bootloader, because since Aku 3.2 Rom , it needs to be 1.01. That is clear.
Edit: Opsss tried bottloader for first time and my version is 2.01 So no bootloader upgrade, but new question:
Sim Unlock works with bootloader 2.01?
1 - Do I need to SIMUNLOCK before ROM or Radio ROM upgrade? If yes:
- I will need an oficial radio ROM. Which one? Are 1.13 or 1.14 is OK?
- Must I first Simunlock and only after upgrade the bootloader?
2 -Country Code error, what is it? (Solved)
Edit : About Country error, no specific answer, but i got almost what I looked for.
Thx you all for the hard work and colaboration on this site.
Cheers

TADAA... answers
I'm afraid you didnt took your best sshot at searching, cuz 3 or 4 post above yours is a topic called "problems with upgrading?"
in this topic you will find the info AND tools you need to succesfully upgrade..
I don't know about the simlock thing, i flashed mine with the simlock on, to a cooked rom, and it works, but don't blame me if it F*CKS up your mobile i suggest that you do a bit of research in that part..
Country id error:
You get that when you try to install a rom that is from a different manufacturer/country then yours, to solve this problem look at this link
(the link to the forementioned topic)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290234
Good luck!

bastiaanoskam said:
I'm afraid you didnt took your best sshot at searching, cuz 3 or 4 post above yours is a topic called "problems with upgrading?"
in this topic you will find the info AND tools you need to succesfully upgrade..
I don't know about the simlock thing, i flashed mine with the simlock on, to a cooked rom, and it works, but don't blame me if it F*CKS up your mobile i suggest that you do a bit of research in that part..
Country id error:
You get that when you try to install a rom that is from a different manufacturer/country then yours, to solve this problem look at this link
(the link to the forementioned topic)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290234
Good luck!
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I know how to solve the country error, I just would like to get more info about it.
About the other post, I will look for it, but when i made search ( last time was the last week) I didn't find the answers i look for.
Since I looked and didn't find it could you please provide a link? ( sorry)
Thx for your help.

Hi,
1. I agree with bastiaanoskam cause I think almost any question about upgrading the Universal has been answered before in this forum.
2. I don't see the need to unlock your device if you don't want to change your current provider.
3. As far as I understand the country error is due to a change in the original language for which your device was thought (look for MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe) i.e. you have a Japanese device and want to upgrade to WWE version.
4. About the bootloader, I just saw one ROM that is said it requires to upgrade your bootloader to 1.01, it was a preview AKU3.2 from i-mate but I don't really know if the upgrade is really needed. I have read it's not needed for Crossbow and also for custom cooked AKU3.5 but again every new cooked ROM usually has a thread so you can find answers there.

tripledes said:
Hi,
1. I agree with bastiaanoskam cause I think almost any question about upgrading the Universal has been answered before in this forum.
2. I don't see the need to unlock your device if you don't want to change your current provider.
3. As far as I understand the country error is due to a change in the original language for which your device was thought (look for MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe) i.e. you have a Japanese device and want to upgrade to WWE version.
4. About the bootloader, I just saw one ROM that is said it requires to upgrade your bootloader to 1.01, it was a preview AKU3.2 from i-mate but I don't really know if the upgrade is really needed. I have read it's not needed for Crossbow and also for custom cooked AKU3.5 but again every new cooked ROM usually has a thread so you can find answers there.
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1 - I do agree that there is a lot of info about the upgrade process, I just didn't find the answer for what I'm looking for.
2 - I didn't find a post where is stated that the device should be unlock to install the new ROM, but I also din't find the oposite, so my doubt.
3 - It seems that I should try first and if I get the error, go for the alternative method. I woul like to jump this step, but if there isn't other way, well, that's life
4 - Maybe it's a bad interpretation on my side of the wiki post. Porbably only some I-mate based roms need the bottloader upgrade.
thx for the help

Can i flash the new HTC official rom on my device?

I tried downloading the newest HTC ROM update---says my device is not supported for this update. ???????
I downloaded the file using a provided serial in another thread for the WWE version.
Can I use this file to flash my rom????
My diamond is an UNBRANDED and UNLOCKED version. I assume its a UK or US version. I use it with my ATT&T sim card.
It's a 1.93.422.4 WWE currently...
Any reason this 2.03 rom WONT work for me?
Can I use it?
I started the flash process just to see if it would give me an error or incompatible message and it did not. It was ready to install.
Any thoughts?
thanks

Man,
You really need to read the wiki and this thread.
Not meaning to sound rude - but your questions are answered thoroughly, providing the information you need to understand before flashing your device.

wow man, that was SO INSIGHTFUL.... thanks
I have flashed MANY phones, many times. I am very aware of how to do it and Yes I have read that page.
I am just trying to see IF ANYONE KNEW offhand if that new WWE ROM would work over my existing ROM without bricking it.
but thanks

If you got it off the Diamond page and know it's a Diamond ROM for sure, then you can flash it. If you don't know where you go it or have no idea for which device it came for, it has to be ported.
Thread closed.

unlocked AT&T tilt2 flashing question

Hi all:
Just got my Tilt2 yesterday from Negri electronics....very happy with the quality of it but hated the stock AT&T ROM. Just some questions I am hoping the experts here can help me out.
The phone came unlocked....if I attempt to flash it to another WWE ROM will the phone be re-locked?
I also need chinese input as well and currently I have CEstar 2.8 installed. Is there any other options to have chinese input instead?
Thanks!
K

no as to unlock
don't know answer to chinese

kampfer said:
Hi all:
Just got my Tilt2 yesterday from Negri electronics....very happy with the quality of it but hated the stock AT&T ROM. Just some questions I am hoping the experts here can help me out.
The phone came unlocked....if I attempt to flash it to another WWE ROM will the phone be re-locked?
I also need chinese input as well and currently I have CEstar 2.8 installed. Is there any other options to have chinese input instead?
Thanks!
K
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I don't have any answer for Chinese input. For flashing a different WWE ROM, you MUST flash HardSPL FIRST. Don't even try to flash any other ROM before flashing HardSPL. First you need to read and follow all the instructions mention in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
If you have any questions about the HardSPL ask in that thread.
For the WWE ROM's you can check this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490

Thanks guys! I am more concerned about the sim unlock.....I'll check for a WWE ROM from taiwan and hopefully that will have chinese input....otherwise I just use a english ROM and go with CESTAR.
Thanks again.

just remember to READ THROUGH the threads linked above and Hard SPL first or else it's the end of the world!!! For sim unlock, there are many like olipro who will unlock it for a price or if you're an ATT customer with good standing, you can just call them and they'll give you a sim unlock code. I do that for every phone I get - and that's free.

updating original rom?

hello guys i hope u can help me, i tried in others forums and: 0 answers
I bought a tilt 2 new, and unlocked it via imei. It have the original at&t rom with touchflo. so as u know theres a new rom since august that changes flo to sence and many other things.
So... my phone that is unlocked, if i update it to last oficial rom, it will be locked again? then i will have to unlock it again?
thanks and sorry for my bad spanglish

No, you are unlocked for good

thanks, a second opinion?

Read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540

F2504x4 said:
Read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
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i dont wanna do that interesting at the moment

hello?? experts help!!

I posted andanswer and there is also a link posted to a FAQ for flashing. What else do you want?

faq is talking about flashing custom roms and hardspl. but thats not what i want, i just want to update to the oficial last rom, from official old rom. But as i unlocked it by imei code not hardspl.
I dont wanna have a phone locked for att again. As i said 3 diferent forums and only u gave me an answer, i just wanna be sure

I suspect most people see you got an answer and move on. If you flash the new ROM the worst thing that happens is you have to unlock again, but the new ROM should not lock the phone

schmenge said:
I suspect most people see you got an answer and move on. If you flash the new ROM the worst thing that happens is you have to unlock again, but the new ROM should not lock the phone
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hmmm ok thanksss

If you have sim unlocked it, it will stay unlocked.

[Q] DHD Tmobile uk Debranding Please Help

Hello guys im new to this so please be wise. i dont know nothing on how to debrand or flash. i have DHD on tmobile Uk.. its not network locked. but its tmobile branded.. and there is alota tmobile S###T which i dont want in my phone.
Android : 2.2.1
Software Number: 1.75.110.2
How do i flash official DHD rom of an unbranded phone on my tmobile branded phone to get my phone unbranded?? Please on what i need to do ?? just a recall i donno much about these things.. so please a little detail reply will be really appreciated.
Thanks alot guys..

Leather|Face said:
Hello guys im new to this so please be wise. i dont know nothing on how to debrand or flash. i have DHD on tmobile Uk.. its not network locked. but its tmobile branded.. and there is alota tmobile S###T which i dont want in my phone.
Android : 2.2.1
Software Number: 1.75.110.2
How do i flash official DHD rom of an unbranded phone on my tmobile branded phone to get my phone unbranded?? Please on what i need to do ?? just a recall i donno much about these things.. so please a little detail reply will be really appreciated.
Thanks alot guys..
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you could try and make a goldcard and flash a generic rom, apart from that there is not much you can do, you cant root the 1.75 roms yet

ok then how do i go with the goldcard thing? btw what is a goldcard exactly ?

use search pls..there are many threads about that in the Developement Thread.
btw, mine is also tmobile branded. there are some apps ok, and the startscreen..who cares
i wouldnt install an official rom..warranty is gone and fota doesnt work as easy as now. (yeah you can flash back the stock one...)
just my 2 cents
DN41

DN41 said:
use search pls..there are many threads about that in the Developement Thread.
btw, mine is also tmobile branded. there are some apps ok, and the startscreen..who cares
i wouldnt install an official rom..warranty is gone and fota doesnt work as easy as now. (yeah you can flash back the stock one...)
just my 2 cents
DN41
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Man tmobile makes the phone run a bit slow ( talking about fastboot).. takes 2.5 sec on official rom,, takes a minute on branded rom.

Leather|Face said:
Hello guys im new to this so please be wise. i dont know nothing on how to debrand or flash. i have DHD on tmobile Uk.. its not network locked. but its tmobile branded.. and there is alota tmobile S###T which i dont want in my phone.
Android : 2.2.1
Software Number: 1.75.110.2
How do i flash official DHD rom of an unbranded phone on my tmobile branded phone to get my phone unbranded?? Please on what i need to do ?? just a recall i donno much about these things.. so please a little detail reply will be really appreciated.
Thanks alot guys..
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Leather|Face said:
Man tmobile makes the phone run a bit slow ( talking about fastboot).. takes 2.5 sec on official rom,, takes a minute on branded rom.
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I'm in the same position as Leather|Face. I know almost nothing about rooting/flashing a phone or gold cards. I also have a DHD with T-Mobile UK but want to get rid of all the branded stuff (especially the boot screen which makes booting the device take around a minute !!).
I have tried searching these forums for a solution but due to the fact I don't exactly know what I'm looking for it is quite difficult. I see a lot of "ROMs" on here for download, I don't know which one I need or if I need one at all, nor do I know how to install them. There seems to be a LOT of help guides for this kind of thing for the HTC Desire, but not the HTC Desire HD - probably because it's a lot newer, or not? This is the way I understand the process, please correct me if I'm wrong and point me in the right direction to complete these tasks;
1. First step would be to "root" my phone, which I believe gives me admin/superuser priveleges, and that's all it does right? I don't know how to do this.
2. Next I need to find the correct ROM, which would be the stock ROM for HTC Desire HD (don't know where to find this either, tried searching). Does this ROM include the unbranded version of HTC Sense UI etc, or am I on the wrong tracks?
3. Install the stock ROM, which I believe is more commonly referred to as "Flashing a ROM", is this correct? I don't know how to do this either.
As you can see from above, I have limited understanding of the process, and what I think I understand may be completely incorrect anyway! I want to find a guide to get back the stock DHD Android/Sense UI, ideally with explanations for a newbie telling me WHY I am doing specific tasks and how they affect my phone etc.
I'll be thankful for any help

mcfc4eva said:
I'm in the same position as Leather|Face. I know almost nothing about rooting/flashing a phone or gold cards. I also have a DHD with T-Mobile UK but want to get rid of all the branded stuff (especially the boot screen which makes booting the device take around a minute !!).
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1. First step would be to "root" my phone, which I believe gives me admin/superuser priveleges, and that's all it does right? I don't know how to do this.
2. Next I need to find the correct ROM, which would be the stock ROM for HTC Desire HD (don't know where to find this either, tried searching). Does this ROM include the unbranded version of HTC Sense UI etc, or am I on the wrong tracks?
3. Install the stock ROM, which I believe is more commonly referred to as "Flashing a ROM", is this correct? I don't know how to do this either.
As you can see from above, I have limited understanding of the process, and what I think I understand may be completely incorrect anyway! I want to find a guide to get back the stock DHD Android/Sense UI, ideally with explanations for a newbie telling me WHY I am doing specific tasks and how they affect my phone etc.
I'll be thankful for any help
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1. No, first step if you *really* want to do this is to look at how you downgrade from 1.7x to 1.32 (I think, check elsewhere).
2. HTC ROMs, the stock version, are just that. Networks add their stuff to customise it and that's what you're stuck with right now. I don't know which you'll need unfortunately, I'm on T-Mobile with the DHD but I got one before they were available on the site to everyone and it has no branding at all. The ROMs are RUU - ROM Update Utility but I don't think you can just flash stock over a T-Mobile branded version.
3. If you don't know how to flash a ROM then you're going to have to learn how by reading lots of threads and asking careful questions.
I can't give you links because I don't know how to go from branded to stock, I only know what I need to for my phone. I was in the middle of typing out what I think you need to do but I got stuck due to the stock ROM. I don't know if the downgrade process will work or not, and if it does work I don't know if that's downgrading to a stock ROM. I'm sorry I've just added more confusion
Suffice to say you'll need at least this information...
How to downgrade from branded to stock HTC firmware
One-click root tool at some point
Possibly / probably an install of the Android SDK to use ADB commands, not sure on this but I have it already from my G1 days.
Information on which is the stock EU or UK ROM version (RUUs remember?)
The search isn't handy when you don't know what you're looking for but hopefully this will give you somewhere to start.

Thats strange, my DHD is from T-Mobile and has no branding on it whatsoever.

right..you cant really call it fastboot on tmobile rom.
dont you think we could claim them for "doing" that? they sell the dhd with the spec "fastboot"..so its limited in its features..
DN41

Moondod said:
Thats strange, my DHD is from T-Mobile and has no branding on it whatsoever.
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thats because you bought DHD is the 1st batch of tmobile... after that all are branded..

I'll save you some time & effort...
How to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
How to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
How to get S-OFF:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
How to flash latest radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
An excellent custom ROM based on stock but with major improvements (worth rooting just for this!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
I couldn't find a link to a rooted stock ROM but see here if you really do want to stay with stock and still have root (no reason to do this though as the ROM above will totally blow it away):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
Be sure to read all instructions and FAQs in each thread as they do explain everything about each process. If you do get stuck please ask any questions in the relevant threads for a quicker response and to reduce clutter.
Have fun!

CitizenLee said:
I'll save you some time & effort...
How to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
How to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
How to get S-OFF:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
How to flash latest radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
An excellent custom ROM based on stock but with major improvements (worth rooting just for this!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
I couldn't find a link to a rooted stock ROM but see here if you really do want to stay with stock and still have root (no reason to do this though as the ROM above will totally blow it away):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
Be sure to read all instructions and FAQs in each thread as they do explain everything about each process. If you do get stuck please ask any questions in the relevant threads for a quicker response and to reduce clutter.
Have fun!
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THANKS ALOT DUDE,, YOUR A LIFE SAVER..

You're welcome mate, but all credit to the people who created the threads. I just used my excellent copy and paste skills

CitizenLee said:
You're welcome mate, but all credit to the people who created the threads. I just used my excellent copy and paste skills
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OO yeah man.. thanks to a realy hard work of those guys who made it possible.
btw is colors, battery life and performance realy faster in Android Revolution 2.0.6 ?

Leather|Face said:
OO yeah man.. thanks to a realy hard work of those guys who made it possible.
btw is colors, battery life and performance realy faster in Android Revolution 2.0.6 ?
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Dunno about colours but battery life and overall speed and performance are way better than stock

I was in the exact same position Dutch vodafone branded 1.75 softwareversion. I somehow managed to create a goldcard, downgrade, root my device and then S-OFF. I used the provided tutorials in the Android development section. Before that I just read alot untill I convinced myself I could do it. After that I used generic 1.72 RUU.exe via pc to flash my DHD. My device is now unbranded. Creating the goldcard was the hardest part, pay attention as you need to write mmc2/mmc2 instead of mmc1/mmc somewhere in the process.

CitizenLee said:
Dunno about colours but battery life and overall speed and performance are way better than stock
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Sounds odd but i have decided to go with the generic htc rom... so i downgrade, i root, then s-off.. but do i still flash the latest radio or after s-off i just flash the unbranded rom ?

CitizenLee said:
I'll save you some time & effort...
How to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
How to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
How to get S-OFF:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
How to flash latest radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
An excellent custom ROM based on stock but with major improvements (worth rooting just for this!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
I couldn't find a link to a rooted stock ROM but see here if you really do want to stay with stock and still have root (no reason to do this though as the ROM above will totally blow it away):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
Be sure to read all instructions and FAQs in each thread as they do explain everything about each process. If you do get stuck please ask any questions in the relevant threads for a quicker response and to reduce clutter.
Have fun!
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I was just about to start the first process above (downgrading) when I noticed my current Build number = "1.39.110.1 CL278886 release-keys". Now I don't know what most of that means, but in the downgrading forum it says this;
System requirements:
Desire HD with build number 1.72 or higher
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Does this mean I don't need to downgrade? Is my current build number 1.39?
Regards,
--Mike

Yeah man
EDIT: This was a reponse to LeatherFace's question Android Revolution having Sense UI. My forum view must have tripped out

MAkS1 said:
I was in the exact same position Dutch vodafone branded 1.75 softwareversion. I somehow managed to create a goldcard, downgrade, root my device and then S-OFF. I used the provided tutorials in the Android development section. Before that I just read alot untill I convinced myself I could do it. After that I used generic 1.72 RUU.exe via pc to flash my DHD. My device is now unbranded. Creating the goldcard was the hardest part, pay attention as you need to write mmc2/mmc2 instead of mmc1/mmc somewhere in the process.
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dude did you flash radio or something?? or not. i need to be clear cuz im going to unbrand my DHD tonight