It happened what I feared...the purpose of my 3d was completely misunderstood ( maybe because I'm not mothertongue English?).
I have absolutely nothing against Olipro , infact when I wrote he might have been the "culprit" I wrote culprit between " "...
I think he is a great guy even if I don't know him in the flesh and I completely trust him , proof is that I flashed his boot loader myself too...
I was just trying to understand which common points are there between all of us experiencing the SOD and I thought, from the very little that I know , that this could have been a possibility but if you read my 3d you'll find that I'm doing also other considerations so , in my opinion , closing it so quickly wasn't after all a good idea.
But this is life , Olipro is correctly consider a guru inside here and I'm nothing so i can understand all this reaction to protect him even if my intentions have been over looked because as I already wrote it was not my will to offend him or his job which is always great. I just wanted to break the discussion concerning the SOD which is always rotating around the same things and possible culprits and in this way we haven't reached very much so far...
I'm confident that Olipro didn't get upset after my message, I don't see a reason why others should do.
Regards all and thanks for the flame!
Uh!...by the way, To answer to Bram87 I also did flash the new official WM6release from HTC but it didn't solve the issue I'm afraid.
SO you are adding some third party applications...?
Man, you are obstinate.....
FYI: I'm using Olipros Bootloader since some months and I flashed at about 15 Roms and I never had a SOD.
Conclusion: Olipro ist NOT causing SOD'S.
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Uh!...by the way, To answer to Bram87 I also did flash the new official WM6release from HTC but it didn't solve the issue I'm afraid.
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hmm..strange. I downloaded this HTC wm6 rom http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=IASNVPS7
well good luck..
Oh yes, many of them... the same third party apps that I installed soon after I bought the tytn and didn't give me the SOD , including Wisbar and SPB software including mobile shell...
mariner said:
Oh yes, many of them... the same third party apps that I installed soon after I bought the tytn and didn't give me the SOD , including Wisbar and SPB software including mobile shell...
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Then you really should read up on your problem.
Most of the sleep of death issues have been identified as caused by third party apps.
Sounds to me like you are either using an application that simply isnt compatible with WM6 or you haven't downloaded the latest versions (SPB particularly, you need the latest updates).
When you bought your device it came with WM5. Most of the apps are designed for WM5 and some of them are causing troubles with WM6.
If you want to check out which apps are causing troubles flash a rom and run it without any app for some days. Then start to install one app after the other and test every app carefully.
As I told you above: I never had a SOD even though I've installed Olipros bootloader
Bram87 said:
hmm..strange. I downloaded this HTC wm6 rom http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=IASNVPS7
well good luck..
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I got mine from here
http://rapidshare.com/files/40593234/HTC_WM6_Official.rar.html
gerald_s said:
When you bought your device it came with WM5. Most of the apps are designed for WM5 and some of them are causing troubles with WM6.
If you want to check out which apps are causing troubles flash a rom and run it without any app for some days. Then start to install one app after the other and test every app carefully.
As I told you above: I never had a SOD even though I've installed Olipros bootloader
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I'm glad to find that Olipro bootloader didn't ease the SOD thing...
I already did the kind of troubleshooting you suggested me without being able to isolate the problem.
My SOD started with WM5 and I decided to upgrade to WM6 for this reason but now it's back again!!!
unwired4 said:
Then you really should read up on your problem.
Most of the sleep of death issues have been identified as caused by third party apps.
Sounds to me like you are either using an application that simply isnt compatible with WM6 or you haven't downloaded the latest versions (SPB particularly, you need the latest updates).
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Now I don't have any SPB software acting in the background installed and I had the latest SOD one hour ago... Wisbar still onboard but auto start disabled and not running at the moment...
gerald_s said:
Man, you are obstinate.....
FYI: I'm using Olipros Bootloader since some months and I flashed at about 15 Roms and I never had a SOD.
Conclusion: Olipro ist NOT causing SOD'S.
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Thanks for sharing your experience with me...
Bram87 said:
hmm..strange. I downloaded this HTC wm6 rom http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=IASNVPS7
well good luck..
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I just downloaded the file...It's a different one from the other that I got out of Rapidshare...I will decide in the next days after testing some more the one that I have now... In case I need to flash the dopod one, do I need to remap the keyboard as I remember to have read somewhere or it's just flash it/use it? If yes can you point me out where to get directions or if short can you post how you did?
Regards
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Thanks for sharing your experience with me...
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I thought it had been agreed that SOD was caused by the messenging app (mail) set to check mail regularly. I had SOD when this was set and also when I had it checking an exchange account (Mail2web).
I check mail manualy now and my tytn has been extremely stable. I have not had SOD for months.
using LVSW 19-5-07 (elf edition)
Looks like the Toshiba G900 is having sleep of death issues too. So, I think it is pretty safe to that Olipro is not the cause of the SOD. Hopefully someone can nail down the real cause of SOD soon as it seems to be a widespread issue that doesn't seem to have any rhyme or reason.
smads said:
I thought it had been agreed that SOD was caused by the messenging app (mail) set to check mail regularly. I had SOD when this was set and also when I had it checking an exchange account (Mail2web).
I check mail manualy now and my tytn has been extremely stable. I have not had SOD for months.
using LVSW 19-5-07 (elf edition)
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Personally, my ollllld SOD issues were SD card related, exchange with retrieving items as they arrive has worked flawlessly for months now, I dont think there is one determining factor for the SOD's.
Since I see this thread is about Olipro, where is he nowdays, I never see him on the board, but then again I dont visit the other sections much.
One thing I noticed and it could be a coincidence...my SOD went away after I got rid of (unchecked) encryption. Just a thought...
I had a few SOD's back on Black 1.2 and I believe that was a Storage Card/apps issue. With Black Majik, I've never had a SOD and I run the same apps in the same manner I did from 1.2 with a few minor exceptions. One, I got rid of WAD. As great as it looks, it slows the device down and was a constant SR issue. Most of my main apps that need to constantly run I have stored to the device and NOT the storage card, so that too may be a hint as to why the SOD may occur. Do I think we'll ever narrow it down to a specific thing? No, cause I beleive many different things can cause it, and as all of our devices are unique, then it's up to each of us to work-out the SOD issue on our own with some of these threads as advice. I'm happy with my setup now and the SOD is a non issue.
The HTC Rom branded as pre-release (OS Build 1238 so far i remember) is known to have SOD.
Just avoid this rom and flash to another.
fun_key said:
The HTC Rom branded as pre-release (OS Build 1238 so far i remember) is known to have SOD.
Just avoid this rom and flash to another.
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Thanks for the hint, I will give the dopod one a try...or do you have anyone better to suggest???
Related
Anyone have problems with phone alarm and wm6. Everytime I soft reset since install in wm6 I get a missed call from (000)000-0000?
Which version are you using (of phonealarm)
No problems here with version 1.58 build 100. Using latest LVSW.
Try running the latest beta version (available on the pocketmax forum)
000-000-0000 is a skype. Unfortunately some networks still allow that number to come in. I got one myself today. Ridiculous because if you block it no one from skype will be able to call you.
I have pa 1.58 (build 100). Can you get a skype number if you don't use skype or have there software installed.
Still getting the missed calls from (000)000-0000. The phone doesnt ring just a notification of missed call. Happens 3-4 time a day now. Anyone have any ideas.
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Anyone have problems with phone alarm and wm6. Everytime I soft reset since install in wm6 I get a missed call from (000)000-0000?
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I am having problems with PhonelAlarm and WM6 as well. I'm running the LSVW 26-3 edition without any problems except for PhoneAlarm.
I've tried PA 1.58 (full/lite) and 1.6B9 + 1.6B10 (full/lite) and i've no reminders for missed calls and missed sms (the others i don't use).
I also tried the new app alarmPal 0.3 (which is exactly what i need), but also no luck...
(you find alarmPal (still beta) here: http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?topic=4030.0 )
No notification, no sound ;(
I've searched allready and it seems that a lot of people are running PhoneAlarm on their LVSW Phones without problems. I also made a clean install follwing mrvanx guide and installed PA as my only app, no luck.
Maybe someone running PA could point me in the right direction.
Thanks a lot,
chaos42
Am using PA 1.6 b9 on black 2.0 no problems.
How long does the Beta version last for?
I used 1.58 before and it has "tearing" screen refresh issue. I.e. when I open another program and go back to Today screen, PhoneAlarm graphics are messed up.
lanwarrior said:
How long does the Beta version last for?
I used 1.58 before and it has "tearing" screen refresh issue. I.e. when I open another program and go back to Today screen, PhoneAlarm graphics are messed up.
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Same as the final release, 30 days.
Have you tried a different skin? I've read that there are some skins that will work with WM6 and some not, i just can't remember the name ;(
Some people also reported that if you set the startupdelay in the pa-config (~10sec.) helps, followed buy one two or sometimes even three reboots....
crazyC said:
Am using PA 1.6 b9 on black 2.0 no problems.
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I just tried 1.60B9 again and still no luck.
but i am sure i saw some post, where people stated that PA works fine with LVSW. Please can someone confirm that?
Starting to feel like a stupid easter lamb.
chaos42 said:
I am having problems with PhonelAlarm and WM6 as well. I'm running the LSVW 26-3 edition without any problems except for PhoneAlarm.
I've tried PA 1.58 (full/lite) and 1.6B9 + 1.6B10 (full/lite) and i've no reminders for missed calls and missed sms (the others i don't use).
I also tried the new app alarmPal 0.3 (which is exactly what i need), but also no luck...
(you find alarmPal (still beta) here: http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?topic=4030.0 )
No notification, no sound ;(
I've searched allready and it seems that a lot of people are running PhoneAlarm on their LVSW Phones without problems. I also made a clean install follwing mrvanx guide and installed PA as my only app, no luck.
Maybe someone running PA could point me in the right direction.
Thanks a lot,
chaos42
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Have you revised the profiles for the notifications configuration?
I noted that the default sounds for notifications dosn't are the corrects WAV and WMA in LVSW cause PA came preconfigured to expecific WAVs and VMA . Perhaps this files dosn't exist in the ROM version you are trying, and must to modify to select the correct audio files.
Hope this helps you.
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Have you revised the profiles for the notifications configuration?
I noted that the default sounds for notifications dosn't are the corrects WAV and WMA in LVSW cause PA came preconfigured to expecific WAVs and VMA . Perhaps this files dosn't exist in the ROM version you are trying, and must to modify to select the correct audio files.
Hope this helps you.
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Tried, and it seems to work. the Problem seems to be that PA and alarmPal can not play sounds from the memorycard. What got me confused, is the fact that if you select the specific sound in the pa-settings the sound files are all playing fine, but you can not use them for your reminders...
I fell a little ashamed now, because this was actually the first thing i tried but did not invetigated it deeper, because the sounds were playing fine during setup.
Thanks for your help
Now it is even working with alarmPal
love it!
chaos42 said:
Tried, and it seems to work. the Problem seems to be that PA and alarmPal can not play sounds from the memorycard. What got me confused, is the fact that if you select the specific sound in the pa-settings the sound files are all playing fine, but you can not use them for your reminders...
I fell a little ashamed now, because this was actually the first thing i tried but did not invetigated it deeper, because the sounds were playing fine during setup.
Thanks for your help
Now it is even working with alarmPal
love it!
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I am charmed with having been of help.
This one is the spirit of this forum, and we all must to preserve it.
jcespi2005 said:
I am charmed with having been of help.
This one is the spirit of this forum, and we all must to preserve it.
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and exactly this spirit was preventing me from throwing my tytn out of the window back in august'06 when i bought it
I was a palmOS user for almost 10 years before, and without the help of this forum and all the people here i'am pretty sure i would have gone mad about my ppc phone.
xda-developers you rock!!!
i have no issue until v1.60 beta 6.
beta 7 > got problems. pain. pain.
couldnt get it to play nice with cingular black 2.02. WOn't install at all...
Hi guys,
My friends and me tried Black Shahow( black 4.0) today. It really got big memory as previous black version, free ROM 53M and RAM 30.4M, noticed that TOTAL RAM showing near 50M instead of 48M. The HTC home looks quite ok but for the weather panel the cities are limited for selection. THE BIGGEST BUG IS that sometime it CAN'T START PROPERLY and ALWAYS HANG during the re-starting period. You may need to reset it for several time just to start the phone.
Long time expectation but still encountered major bug.
Hope JJ can solve these bugs.
Perhaps this would be better off in the official thread? There was no need to start a new one.
Anyway, just FYI:
the original one was ok but jj added a file to fix HSDPA - this cuased a comflict with the current version of the ROM.
Apparently, if you disabled HSDPA things are better.
That's a workaround until jj releases a fixed ROM a bit later on.
try turn to landscape will be better but still need wait for new one..
most issues has been already resolved on www.4winmobile.com . if you need help, go to jasjamming forum and ask there. it was his request, and he did not answering question on two places. bye.
randomelements said:
Anyway, just FYI:
the original one was ok but jj added a file to fix HSDPA - this cuased a comflict with the current version of the ROM.
Apparently, if you disabled HSDPA things are better.
That's a workaround until jj releases a fixed ROM a bit later on.
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Thanks your guy. I think it will be better to wait for new rom..
Anyone still keep the "First release version"?
My X01HT cannot wake up after slept each time...
I cant wait...
rom has been updated
Should this be a seperate thread here or just put it with the black shadow thread?
wu_ybao said:
Hi guys,
My friends and me tried Black Shahow( black 4.0) today. It really got big memory as previous black version, free ROM 53M and RAM 30.4M, noticed that TOTAL RAM showing near 50M instead of 48M. The HTC home looks quite ok but for the weather panel the cities are limited for selection. THE BIGGEST BUG IS that sometime it CAN'T START PROPERLY and ALWAYS HANG during the re-starting period. You may need to reset it for several time just to start the phone.
Long time expectation but still encountered major bug.
Hope JJ can solve these bugs.
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No. For you maybe, but on my 8525 it's fast as hell and haven't had ANY problems or this "hang" problem either. The ROM is awesome!
I've run the rom also...I'm having no problems either. I experienced a hang during the install but after that I've been smooth and I'm HSDPA.
randomelements said:
Anyway, just FYI:
the original one was ok but jj added a file to fix HSDPA - this cuased a comflict with the current version of the ROM.
Apparently, if you disabled HSDPA things are better.
That's a workaround until jj releases a fixed ROM a bit later on.
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I tried it but it still doesn't work, previously i installed official wm5.0 rom / qtek 2.11.255.2. It works quite well and stable. Do anyone have idea how to fix the bug?
Could someone please start a new thread Entitled: 'Black Shadow Works Great'
And then another one: 'Black Shadow Works So-So.'
Infact, everytime someone wants to say something, just start a New Thread.
berdinkerdickle said:
Could someone please start a new thread Entitled: 'Black Shadow Works Great'
And then another one: 'Black Shadow Works So-So.'
Infact, everytime someone wants to say something, just start a New Thread.
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Seriously, there is a Hermes fans chatting room. In the chatting room, it is complainted as well that they got same experience as me. There is one similarity that we performed complete flash using Qtek 2.11.255.2 before updating to Black Shadow (4.0). I am thinking if there are conflictions between Black Shadow and Qtek latest WM5.0 ROM. However, we don't experience such bugs using Black Diamond which i regarded it as more stable one and faster than Shadow and some other cooked roms. Unfortunately, i can't access 4winmobile.com and can't comment this to JJ.
Should JJ read this may he give us a solution.
Anyhow, thanks for his great works and best regards.
For anyone seeing this thread now - there is an updated rom called shadow.rar already posted on wmblack.info and it fixes the problems from this morning.
wu_ybao said:
Seriously, there is a Hermes fans chatting room. In the chatting room, it is complainted as well that they got same experience as me. There is one similarity that we performed complete flash using Qtek 2.11.255.2 before updating to Black Shadow (4.0). I am thinking if there are conflictions between Black Shadow and Qtek latest WM5.0 ROM. However, we don't experience such bugs using Black Diamond which i regarded it as more stable one and faster than Shadow and some other cooked roms. Unfortunately, i can't access 4winmobile.com and can't comment this to JJ.
Should JJ read this may he give us a solution.
Anyhow, thanks for his great works and best regards.
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your best bet then would be to post at 4winmobile than here as that is where he supports it.
berdinkerdickle said:
Could someone please start a new thread Entitled: 'Black Shadow Works Great'
And then another one: 'Black Shadow Works So-So.'
Infact, everytime someone wants to say something, just start a New Thread.
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I was gonna make a new thread to discuss the making of new threads.
unwired4 said:
For anyone seeing this thread now - there is an updated rom called shadow.rar already posted on wmblack.info and it fixes the problems from this morning.
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Hi, i just downloaded and tried the shadow.rar. After flashed it is still the same, can't start properly. Is it possible because of Radio? Someone with radio 1.38 told me his phone working well. By the way, i installed CE-star.
wu_ybao said:
Hi, i just downloaded and tried the shadow.rar. After flashed it is still the same, can't start properly. Is it possible because of Radio? Someone with radio 1.38 told me his phone working well. By the way, i installed CE-star.
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ey, works great for me with 1.38 right now...so seems your issues aren't related to Radio version.
Try without CE-star (perhaps not compatible), and post results.
I find it thoroughly ammusing! all these posts dissing the rom creator and booing if the f**k up the install or the rom isn't perfect! when will you guys realise that we are in the thick of beta land! everything is a gamble! you don't put your head in the ovan just because someone else did and got away with it!
i'm pretty new to this rom business and only tried a few. I *****ed once but then came to my stark realisation. IT'S ALWAYS A GAMBLE! read the notes that come with the rom!
these guys are clued up enough to work at M$ (or Apple. imagine mobile OSX on a tytn!).
I think you guys need to chill and take it as it comes! that's the deal!
that's my 2 pence worth anyway!
I think some members of this forum just need to get laid.
Planning to upgrade to WM6, but reading some continuous loop reboot issues...
Vote Yes if you've experienced any glitches since switching to WM6, then post the glitch you experienced.
Otherwise Vote No
Thanks!
travisc said:
Planning to upgrade to WM6, but reading some continuous loop reboot issues...
Vote Yes if you've experienced any glitches since switching to WM6, then post the glitch you experienced.
Otherwise Vote No
Thanks!
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just upgrade already.
travisc said:
Planning to upgrade to WM6, but reading some continuous loop reboot issues...
Vote Yes if you've experienced any glitches since switching to WM6, then post the glitch you experienced.
Otherwise Vote No
Thanks!
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Continous reboot is when you use windows live and a storage card. I'm sure they will fix it in a new version of windows live soon enough. Theres absolutely no reason to stay on WM5, come on we were waiting so long for HTC's WM6 - dont wait any longer you're missing out!!
Is there a rom which does not have these 2 problems?
I don't care if it is official, cooked, lite, clean.
Up to now I've tried the official and the latest one from bepe.
The official seems to have the battery problem, and bepe's seems to have both.
Now I'm going to try ADW version 1.1 .
Please post your experiences concerning these two bugs so we can save time on flashing our devices constantly.
Thanks
I am using AX3L 3.1.2.c Lite for some while now and have never experienced issues like these. (free memory stable at 28 MB and battery life beats 72 hours).
To me Mary 3.3.5 SL and AXEL 3.1.2.c Lite.
These are the ones I use over and over,battery is pretty good and so is memory,maybe someone doesn´t agree with me but this is just what I think or maybe is because of the third party apps I use.
thanks for your input.
I'm now going to try the new pdaviet one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352550
even if its revision is fake, it might be worth it.
I'll post my findings
Hey guys.
I have this stupid doubt,long time ago in this forum was rumoured that one of the X-buttons was the reason of a battery leak.
Does anyone remember some of this or knows anything about?
Thanks.
What do you mean 'one of the X buttons'?
as I understand, the pdaviet rom has 3 big advantages:
*fixes the password and account corruption bug
* battery lasts more than other roms (but i'm still not satisfied)
* no memory drain
what other roms meet these specifications?
I'm very happy with this rom except from the fact that they always customize dialers, icons etc.
oh and video calling is not working (even if you change the dialer)
rekall said:
What do you mean 'one of the X buttons'?
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Sorry that´s what I call it it´s the app that we use when we tap the X it ends running the applications,windows media player etc....
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Sorry that´s what I call it it´s the app that we use when we tap the X it ends running the applications,windows media player etc....
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The X button is window task manager or HTC task manager.....
Are you sure about it? can you let me know how to check it?
widigol said:
The X button is window task manager or HTC task manager.....
Are you sure about it? can you let me know how to check it?
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Sorry widigol,I don´t know how to do it,this were old rumors posted in this forum long time ago....it was just a question in case someone remember.
I remember a battery drain due to SD Card... enabling its power management reduced the power drain.
dta1974 said:
Hey guys.
I have this stupid doubt,long time ago in this forum was rumoured that one of the X-buttons was the reason of a battery leak.
Does anyone remember some of this or knows anything about?
Thanks.
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I believe it was a setting... Some of the Rom's had the default set to minimize when tapping the "X" rather than close, switching the setting to Close on Tapping "X" resolved the problem of not keeping multiple applications constantly opened, thus many were reporting memory leaks... but it was probably just utilitizing too many resources...
However, new versions of the HTC Task Manager, can't really remember 2.xx or something had issues which did not save settings after tapping the "X".
I'm not sure if this is what you are referring to, but just my 2 cents... It's been awhile...
Good luck in your search
Thanks for your response and that nice explanation.
I guess what I mean to say I am sick of all these problems, with both stock and cooked roms, I just want a phone that works smoothly.
What I wouldn't give for ANY ROM that is reliable.
I have tried ROM after ROM, and I still have not found even one that is truly reliable. The stock ROMs, or ones close to stock are maybe better but not OK.
I am so sick of the slow HTC messenging client (I have tried the fix to disable it, but that doesn't work)
Even the regular windows messenging freezes.
In fact the phone seems to have a lot of fun freezing up all the time. It usually unfreezes after a while, but why would I want a phone that I have to wait 5 minutes for before I can do anything?
All I want is 1 reliable ROM. It doesn't have to be lightning fast, just something that doesn't waste my time.
It would also be nice to have something with a bit of cool graphics in it too, but that is not important.
I have read online about a lot of people having the same problems. Why can't we seem to fix this? I have a lot of faith in Xda-developers, so I know this can be done.
try cooking your own then maybe you'll see how hard it is to make a reliable rom. :|
Yeah, I don't mean to give any offense to the chefs, as I thank them for their effort, but I think the problem is deeper than that.
I just want to know what I can do? Or maybe how can I help to discover the root cause of these problems?
you know...i dont think its the ROMs...
honestly i think it's because the stuff that's on the phone (whether its a stock ROM or a cooked one)
it NEEDS more memory...
thats what i think at least...
well how can one build a ROM that is snappy and reliable?
Its not the RAM, its the Qualcrap MSM7200 processor. Same processor for 3 generations. Thats why.
Check my signature & words of Gandhi Ji, you will understand why we fail. Our greed always outgrows our technological developments & what we are left with in the end is nothing but frustration.
To be specific have shipped ROM & attain the nirvana.
Kind of same feelings here. I have been using modified ROMS and now I realized that some of my text messages don't go through to people. This is kind of bad because I already fired one person from our company because there was misunderstanding cause she never received the message but I didn't believe her cause I got confirmation from the operator that she got the msg
and JUST now the phone just suddenly went blank and now it says that has to reset the device completely. I didn't even touch the phone I just noticed that it had lost the wallpaper suddenly and then tried to reinstall the wallpaper didn't work. Then reset and the phone didn't get on anymore
Luckily after some waiting the screen came and said I can reset the device. Now has to reinstall everything again. Fuuuuck. Would have other things to do than this..
phony said:
I am so sick of the slow HTC messenging client (I have tried the fix to disable it, but that doesn't work)
Even the regular windows messenging freezes.
In fact the phone seems to have a lot of fun freezing up all the time. It usually unfreezes after a while, but why would I want a phone that I have to wait 5 minutes for before I can do anything?
All I want is 1 reliable ROM. It doesn't have to be lightning fast, just something that doesn't waste my time.
It would also be nice to have something with a bit of cool graphics in it too, but that is not important.
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have u tried my rom. i think i got them all covered
let me know here y it wouldn foot ur bill
cheers
Maybe we should start a quest to find that one ultimate ROM that makes this thing into a phone we can rely on.
I bought this phone because I use all of it's features heavily, I text and email and call and view documents, and surf the web and listen to music and watch videos and more constantly on this thing.
For it to be unreliable negates all the good functions it has.
How about we all work on finding/testing one ROM that is priority #1 Reliable?
phony said:
Maybe we should start a quest to find that one ultimate ROM that makes this thing into a phone we can rely on.
I bought this phone because I use all of it's features heavily, I text and email and call and view documents, and surf the web and listen to music and watch videos and more constantly on this thing.
For it to be unreliable negates all the good functions it has.
How about we all work on finding/testing one ROM that is priority #1 Reliable?
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lol...seems kind of a self defeating goal. Can there be anything such as the one perfect Rom when we each have our individual preferences and priorities? Also, we have to factor in the reality that the networks themselves are not reliable. So, if ATnT or Verizon drops calls and text messages, can we really say it is the Rom that is unreliable?
agent_47 said:
have u tried my rom. i think i got them all covered
let me know here y it wouldn foot ur bill
cheers
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hehe, wonderful suggestion... but... this is the ROM I currently use and it has all the same sort of problems.
I really appreciate the ROM though, thank you for making it.
mcfarlan said:
lol...seems kind of a self defeating goal. Can there be anything such as the one perfect Rom when we each have our individual preferences and priorities? Also, we have to factor in the reality that the networks themselves are not reliable. So, if ATnT or Verizon drops calls and text messages, can we really say it is the Rom that is unreliable?
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I was thinking of making one that can be the basis ROM from which all others are birthed. Or at least find what formula or tricks we could apply to make the ROMs better?
lawlz. Good Luck finding the 100% perfect rom.
If you look at each rom's thread, each new rom they release more likely has a new OS build. Then each new build has their own issues, either from previous version or new issue entirely.
IF the rom the chefs release is just plain unusable, they normally release a FIXED rom with the same build.
Known issues are just that, chefs normally don't fix them because they just can't. So hoping for a new build of the software might fix it.
Each of the roms' issues can be fixed with patches, there are general patches that can be found all over or a patch by the chef when they sometimes forget to fix an issue unique to their rom.
From what i've been noticing, no chefs has cooked up the same rom more than 5 times to fix some issues until it is 100% perfect. By the time they do that, there's a new build of the software and they'll be cooking that instead. Not only just the OS build, they'll also add/remove some programs, change programs to newer versions.
All of these combined will introduce new issues.
Then the cycle continues...
There's about 20 or more Rom selection out there that you can choose from. There's gotta be one that is close to your preferences.
A rom that is deemed 100% reliable to others may not be the same to you.
corepda said:
Check my signature & words of Gandhi Ji, you will understand why we fail. Our greed always outgrows our technological developments & what we are left with in the end is nothing but frustration.
To be specific have shipped ROM & attain the nirvana.
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Well the shipped 6.5 ROM on the Tilt2 seems to have the same freezing problem according to countless reviews on the web.
f1ip said:
A rom that is deemed 100% reliable to others may not be the same to you.
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Perhaps then we should deem what is reliable. Firstly, 100%, I know, is too much to ask for, but I want as close as I can get.
So reliability to me means: I can use the phone as it was meant to be used.
This means: no freezing, no need to reset constantly, when someone calls me I can see the caller ID, etc
Simple and easy.
Now is that too much to ask for?
phony said:
hehe, wonderful suggestion... but... this is the ROM I currently use and it has all the same sort of problems.
I really appreciate the ROM though, thank you for making it.
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really???
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1.I am so sick of the slow HTC messenging client (I have tried the fix to disable it, but that doesn't work)
2.Even the regular windows messenging freezes.
3.In fact the phone seems to have a lot of fun freezing up all the time. It usually unfreezes after a while, but why would I want a phone that I have to wait 5 minutes for before I can do anything?
4.It doesn't have to be lightning fast, just something that doesn't waste my time.
5.It would also be nice to have something with a bit of cool graphics in it too, but that is not important.
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1.i don have HTC clent cooked in to begin with.
2.source of sms hanging is the showcase suite, which is not cooked in
3.well i don share that with u
4.hmmm...let me think
5.hmmm...let me think
sorry i tried helping u out but i don think u are on my rom coz then u would know that leo sms client is not cooked in. nor is showcase suite
thnx for ur input though
Well there are Roms that are really reliable and very fast. I'm using the same custom ROM for a long time now... I never had to reset, no freezing. It just works.
It's more stable then stock even. Just search in the first 3 pages of the rom thread for the touch x roms.
So no it's not to much to ask. I think this thread should be closed because it's only about whining. Nothing constructive.
EDIT: and that's not the only ROM that is stable. And let me remind you that al cooks are doing it for fun and free willing. As end user you can't complain. You have no right. Asking and making requests is fine, but I'm getting sick of people saying nobody is listening or will respond on questions asked multiple times and awnsered multiple times. The same is for people screaming other people don't make them what they want while they have to knowledge about the subject at all.
This is not ment offensive in any way to anyone.
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Well there are Roms that are really reliable and very fast. I'm using the same custom ROM for a long time now... I never had to reset, no freezing. It just works.
It's more stable then stock even. Just search in the first 3 pages of the rom thread for the touch x roms.
So no it's not to much to ask. I think this thread should be closed because it's only about whining. Nothing constructive.
EDIT: and that's not the only ROM that is stable. And let me remind you that al cooks are doing it for fun and free willing. As end user you can't complain. You have no right. Asking and making requests is fine, but I'm getting sick of people saying nobody is listening or will respond on questions asked multiple times and awnsered multiple times. The same is for people screaming other people don't make them what they want while they have to knowledge about the subject at all.
This is not ment offensive in any way to anyone.
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Well, as I said in the first few post, it is not the fault of the chefs, and I appreciate greatly all their efforts. I never complained about the chefs and their ROMS, it is the system itself. Perhaps I am asking Windows Mobile to be better.
It think it boils down to Microsoft building a system that is not up to par, then HTC trying to hack on their software which creates a system that is is inherently flawed.
I fully support and am grateful for all the custom ROMs out there. At least it gives us more interesting choices.
CandyAndy said:
Kind of same feelings here. I have been using modified ROMS and now I realized that some of my text messages don't go through to people. This is kind of bad because I already fired one person from our company because there was misunderstanding cause she never received the message but I didn't believe her cause I got confirmation from the operator that she got the msg
and JUST now the phone just suddenly went blank and now it says that has to reset the device completely. I didn't even touch the phone I just noticed that it had lost the wallpaper suddenly and then tried to reinstall the wallpaper didn't work. Then reset and the phone didn't get on anymore
Luckily after some waiting the screen came and said I can reset the device. Now has to reinstall everything again. Fuuuuck. Would have other things to do than this..
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Wow dude you honestly owe her an apology. You sound like a total douche for ****ing up your phone and firing someone for it.
I'm just saying man, the rest of her life she's going to remember you as a douche for your own mistake.