I guess what I mean to say I am sick of all these problems, with both stock and cooked roms, I just want a phone that works smoothly.
What I wouldn't give for ANY ROM that is reliable.
I have tried ROM after ROM, and I still have not found even one that is truly reliable. The stock ROMs, or ones close to stock are maybe better but not OK.
I am so sick of the slow HTC messenging client (I have tried the fix to disable it, but that doesn't work)
Even the regular windows messenging freezes.
In fact the phone seems to have a lot of fun freezing up all the time. It usually unfreezes after a while, but why would I want a phone that I have to wait 5 minutes for before I can do anything?
All I want is 1 reliable ROM. It doesn't have to be lightning fast, just something that doesn't waste my time.
It would also be nice to have something with a bit of cool graphics in it too, but that is not important.
I have read online about a lot of people having the same problems. Why can't we seem to fix this? I have a lot of faith in Xda-developers, so I know this can be done.
try cooking your own then maybe you'll see how hard it is to make a reliable rom. :|
Yeah, I don't mean to give any offense to the chefs, as I thank them for their effort, but I think the problem is deeper than that.
I just want to know what I can do? Or maybe how can I help to discover the root cause of these problems?
you know...i dont think its the ROMs...
honestly i think it's because the stuff that's on the phone (whether its a stock ROM or a cooked one)
it NEEDS more memory...
thats what i think at least...
well how can one build a ROM that is snappy and reliable?
Its not the RAM, its the Qualcrap MSM7200 processor. Same processor for 3 generations. Thats why.
Check my signature & words of Gandhi Ji, you will understand why we fail. Our greed always outgrows our technological developments & what we are left with in the end is nothing but frustration.
To be specific have shipped ROM & attain the nirvana.
Kind of same feelings here. I have been using modified ROMS and now I realized that some of my text messages don't go through to people. This is kind of bad because I already fired one person from our company because there was misunderstanding cause she never received the message but I didn't believe her cause I got confirmation from the operator that she got the msg
and JUST now the phone just suddenly went blank and now it says that has to reset the device completely. I didn't even touch the phone I just noticed that it had lost the wallpaper suddenly and then tried to reinstall the wallpaper didn't work. Then reset and the phone didn't get on anymore
Luckily after some waiting the screen came and said I can reset the device. Now has to reinstall everything again. Fuuuuck. Would have other things to do than this..
phony said:
I am so sick of the slow HTC messenging client (I have tried the fix to disable it, but that doesn't work)
Even the regular windows messenging freezes.
In fact the phone seems to have a lot of fun freezing up all the time. It usually unfreezes after a while, but why would I want a phone that I have to wait 5 minutes for before I can do anything?
All I want is 1 reliable ROM. It doesn't have to be lightning fast, just something that doesn't waste my time.
It would also be nice to have something with a bit of cool graphics in it too, but that is not important.
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have u tried my rom. i think i got them all covered
let me know here y it wouldn foot ur bill
cheers
Maybe we should start a quest to find that one ultimate ROM that makes this thing into a phone we can rely on.
I bought this phone because I use all of it's features heavily, I text and email and call and view documents, and surf the web and listen to music and watch videos and more constantly on this thing.
For it to be unreliable negates all the good functions it has.
How about we all work on finding/testing one ROM that is priority #1 Reliable?
phony said:
Maybe we should start a quest to find that one ultimate ROM that makes this thing into a phone we can rely on.
I bought this phone because I use all of it's features heavily, I text and email and call and view documents, and surf the web and listen to music and watch videos and more constantly on this thing.
For it to be unreliable negates all the good functions it has.
How about we all work on finding/testing one ROM that is priority #1 Reliable?
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lol...seems kind of a self defeating goal. Can there be anything such as the one perfect Rom when we each have our individual preferences and priorities? Also, we have to factor in the reality that the networks themselves are not reliable. So, if ATnT or Verizon drops calls and text messages, can we really say it is the Rom that is unreliable?
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have u tried my rom. i think i got them all covered
let me know here y it wouldn foot ur bill
cheers
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hehe, wonderful suggestion... but... this is the ROM I currently use and it has all the same sort of problems.
I really appreciate the ROM though, thank you for making it.
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lol...seems kind of a self defeating goal. Can there be anything such as the one perfect Rom when we each have our individual preferences and priorities? Also, we have to factor in the reality that the networks themselves are not reliable. So, if ATnT or Verizon drops calls and text messages, can we really say it is the Rom that is unreliable?
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I was thinking of making one that can be the basis ROM from which all others are birthed. Or at least find what formula or tricks we could apply to make the ROMs better?
lawlz. Good Luck finding the 100% perfect rom.
If you look at each rom's thread, each new rom they release more likely has a new OS build. Then each new build has their own issues, either from previous version or new issue entirely.
IF the rom the chefs release is just plain unusable, they normally release a FIXED rom with the same build.
Known issues are just that, chefs normally don't fix them because they just can't. So hoping for a new build of the software might fix it.
Each of the roms' issues can be fixed with patches, there are general patches that can be found all over or a patch by the chef when they sometimes forget to fix an issue unique to their rom.
From what i've been noticing, no chefs has cooked up the same rom more than 5 times to fix some issues until it is 100% perfect. By the time they do that, there's a new build of the software and they'll be cooking that instead. Not only just the OS build, they'll also add/remove some programs, change programs to newer versions.
All of these combined will introduce new issues.
Then the cycle continues...
There's about 20 or more Rom selection out there that you can choose from. There's gotta be one that is close to your preferences.
A rom that is deemed 100% reliable to others may not be the same to you.
corepda said:
Check my signature & words of Gandhi Ji, you will understand why we fail. Our greed always outgrows our technological developments & what we are left with in the end is nothing but frustration.
To be specific have shipped ROM & attain the nirvana.
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Well the shipped 6.5 ROM on the Tilt2 seems to have the same freezing problem according to countless reviews on the web.
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A rom that is deemed 100% reliable to others may not be the same to you.
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Perhaps then we should deem what is reliable. Firstly, 100%, I know, is too much to ask for, but I want as close as I can get.
So reliability to me means: I can use the phone as it was meant to be used.
This means: no freezing, no need to reset constantly, when someone calls me I can see the caller ID, etc
Simple and easy.
Now is that too much to ask for?
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hehe, wonderful suggestion... but... this is the ROM I currently use and it has all the same sort of problems.
I really appreciate the ROM though, thank you for making it.
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really???
phony said:
1.I am so sick of the slow HTC messenging client (I have tried the fix to disable it, but that doesn't work)
2.Even the regular windows messenging freezes.
3.In fact the phone seems to have a lot of fun freezing up all the time. It usually unfreezes after a while, but why would I want a phone that I have to wait 5 minutes for before I can do anything?
4.It doesn't have to be lightning fast, just something that doesn't waste my time.
5.It would also be nice to have something with a bit of cool graphics in it too, but that is not important.
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1.i don have HTC clent cooked in to begin with.
2.source of sms hanging is the showcase suite, which is not cooked in
3.well i don share that with u
4.hmmm...let me think
5.hmmm...let me think
sorry i tried helping u out but i don think u are on my rom coz then u would know that leo sms client is not cooked in. nor is showcase suite
thnx for ur input though
Well there are Roms that are really reliable and very fast. I'm using the same custom ROM for a long time now... I never had to reset, no freezing. It just works.
It's more stable then stock even. Just search in the first 3 pages of the rom thread for the touch x roms.
So no it's not to much to ask. I think this thread should be closed because it's only about whining. Nothing constructive.
EDIT: and that's not the only ROM that is stable. And let me remind you that al cooks are doing it for fun and free willing. As end user you can't complain. You have no right. Asking and making requests is fine, but I'm getting sick of people saying nobody is listening or will respond on questions asked multiple times and awnsered multiple times. The same is for people screaming other people don't make them what they want while they have to knowledge about the subject at all.
This is not ment offensive in any way to anyone.
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Well there are Roms that are really reliable and very fast. I'm using the same custom ROM for a long time now... I never had to reset, no freezing. It just works.
It's more stable then stock even. Just search in the first 3 pages of the rom thread for the touch x roms.
So no it's not to much to ask. I think this thread should be closed because it's only about whining. Nothing constructive.
EDIT: and that's not the only ROM that is stable. And let me remind you that al cooks are doing it for fun and free willing. As end user you can't complain. You have no right. Asking and making requests is fine, but I'm getting sick of people saying nobody is listening or will respond on questions asked multiple times and awnsered multiple times. The same is for people screaming other people don't make them what they want while they have to knowledge about the subject at all.
This is not ment offensive in any way to anyone.
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Well, as I said in the first few post, it is not the fault of the chefs, and I appreciate greatly all their efforts. I never complained about the chefs and their ROMS, it is the system itself. Perhaps I am asking Windows Mobile to be better.
It think it boils down to Microsoft building a system that is not up to par, then HTC trying to hack on their software which creates a system that is is inherently flawed.
I fully support and am grateful for all the custom ROMs out there. At least it gives us more interesting choices.
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Kind of same feelings here. I have been using modified ROMS and now I realized that some of my text messages don't go through to people. This is kind of bad because I already fired one person from our company because there was misunderstanding cause she never received the message but I didn't believe her cause I got confirmation from the operator that she got the msg
and JUST now the phone just suddenly went blank and now it says that has to reset the device completely. I didn't even touch the phone I just noticed that it had lost the wallpaper suddenly and then tried to reinstall the wallpaper didn't work. Then reset and the phone didn't get on anymore
Luckily after some waiting the screen came and said I can reset the device. Now has to reinstall everything again. Fuuuuck. Would have other things to do than this..
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Wow dude you honestly owe her an apology. You sound like a total douche for ****ing up your phone and firing someone for it.
I'm just saying man, the rest of her life she's going to remember you as a douche for your own mistake.
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Tmobile is sending me my 3rd Dash, I know this one is gonna be the same lagged out pos. They offered a shadow, but that phone is garbage. Should I just keep playing this send back the phone, get a new one and hope they offer me something better, or take this new phone they're sending and flash the rom right away?
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Tmobile is sending me my 3rd Dash, I know this one is gonna be the same lagged out pos. They offered a shadow, but that phone is garbage. Should I just keep playing this send back the phone, get a new one and hope they offer me something better, or take this new phone they're sending and flash the rom right away?
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If you flash the rom with one from kavana or rickwyatt you always have the option of putting the original rom if you need to send it back again.
word, now the tedious task of finding out the best rom and the instructions for installation, this forum is a mess lol
to tell you the truth is not too bad i upgrated mine in like 15 to 20 minutes last night, im ussing rickwaytt version 23 if u want to downloaded it have the link in my signature just make sure you unlock ur phone. if u got any question just post it here ill try to help but there is plenty of people willing to help around here
Do not get the Shadow, it is garbage... trust me...
Speed sounds more important to you than anything.
1) Use Kavana's ROM, or, even better, Ricky's Vanilla ROM
2) Do not install Voice Command.
3) Do not choose a CHome homescreen with the media goodies.
4) Install your most essential apps to the devince, never to the storage card. Install nothing non-essential.
5) Overclock it to 240. This is solid on any dash.
Do the above and your phone will be as fast as anything on the market, and as funtional, at this point in time. If it still doesn't suit your needs, get a different phone and a dedicated UMPC and 'tooth them.
p.s. I'm also on my 3rd dash,and Tmo has nothing else I would accept. I've checked. and tried a wing and a shadow first hand.
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p.s. I'm also on my 3rd dash,and Tmo has nothing else I would accept. I've checked. and tried a wing and a shadow first hand.
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Dash all the way man
so i read that my favs wont be there, does that mean those phone numbers will no longer be free for me? because i live off that
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so i read that my favs wont be there, does that mean those phone numbers will no longer be free for me? because i live off that
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There is a program install that I've read it works like My favs, but i dont use it as much so i cant realy say how well it works.
Don't Worry
It just means that the neat T-Mobile MyFaves interface won't be there. Whenever you call someone on my faves, the charges are still the same; their phone number hasn't changed so why would calling one of them by dialing their phone number change?
You can still add an app that will put a MyFaves like feature on your phone. Plus, there are ROMS with this feature built into it.
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so i read that my favs wont be there, does that mean those phone numbers will no longer be free for me? because i live off that
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so did your other dash's break???
cause i read online, before i got mine, that the screen would break if i dopped it, and i gotta tell ya ive dropped mine a few times and it doesnt even have a scratch on it.
I was wondering myself what the differences are between Rick and Kavana ROM. I have very successfully installed the Kavana 080408 ROM and it is awesome, but I hear a lot of people raving about Rickys ROM.
What version is the best (I dowloaded the v14 version)?
I love the way Kavana runs and looks. Speed is awesome and interface is fast (not overclocked).
What are the differences?
Thanks...
Run the latest Ricky's rom. I have it below. A lot of problems are fixed in this rom and its really nice. Ricky's rom is just an updated version of Kavana with the bugs fixed and all.
are there any images somewhere. I imagine it looks pretty much the same as kavanas. Right?
Thanks again. I'm downloading right now and popping it on in a moment.
Well, it is but there are some new applications and a lot of bugs fixed. Plus it has Chome slim which could be changed from the tools folder and then go to extras. (check it out you can change a lot of stuff from there and you can make it transparent and all). Check it out and mess around with it once you download it.
Yeah, I will. Cool thanks.....
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Yeah, I will. Cool thanks.....
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Let me know what you think once you start loading it ok.
nah my screen is fine, but the phone is just acting up like crazy and having a lot of lag problems etc..etc...
i just got my replacement today, so i'm gonna try this rom thing out, but my old dash isnt even starting up anymore, i wanna save the **** i got on there
I have seriously tried about 15 different ROMs for my tilt2 and I am about to get rid of it because I can't find a good ROM that has everything I need... So, here is what I need...
Youtube working
Link contacts to facebook
Contact information to save when I put it in
Location service
Ability to get hotmail e-mail on the phone
I think that is it...
Are there any ROM's that work like that?? So far everything I have tried is missing at least one of those capabilities :/ I'm getting very disappointed...
Did you not try the phone out or even read what programs work with it before you bought it?
I find it hard to believe that your phone cannot do what you are suggesting it can't do.
I could do all of that (except the location service) with the stock AT&T rom... However, that ROM was extremely slow and aggravating as well...
I also have an HTC Pure - I found a perfect ROM for that phone that does everything I need it to do...
I just can't find a ROM here for the T2 that does everything I need...
I'm not an idiot, I know what this phone is capable of and if I can't find it in a new ROM here that is better than the stock ROM I will get rid of the phone.
Please don't act like I'm stupid because I'm really not... If you're going to be rude, you don't need to post. Thank you
Hey DillyBar, I have to agree with glcK23 on this one. I don’t think he means to be making any assumptions about your intelligence. All the stable ROMs can do the things you need (which are really basic).
When I say “stable” I mean I’m excluding WinMo 6.5.1 ROMs and those with Manila 2.5. There are known issues with those and you either have to live with them or simply don’t use them.
al the roms are doing what u are looking for.... i dont know if you know what u are talking about??? or maybe u are not using TP2???
i just got my touch pro 2, it was used, but it was still new
it still even has the original plastic on the screen.
ever since ive had the phone though, everything on it is really really slow.
opening up a text, sending a text, going back to the home screen, opening up opera, clicking on the notification tab. EVERYTHING is really slow, or has some kind of lag to it. Why is this happening? What can i do to fix it?
This is really bothering me, and im about to trade for another phone because i cant take it. It takes me 5 minutes to send a text message, after i hit the send button.
ANY help is appreciated, thanks!!
First thing you want to check is which ROM is running on the device. Is it stock or a cooked ROM. Which version TP2 do you have? is there a carrier logo on it? The more information you can provide about the hardware/software on the device the better we can help you.
its the stock ROM. Original T-Mobile branded version. Its pretty much new out of the box it seems.
Since you just got it, and someone may have been using it before. i would suggest hard reset first off to remove any junk the previous user may have installed.
ok thats sounds like a good idea, how would i go about it?
(sorry for some of the questions i have been / will be asking, i just came from android to WinMo, so im completely lost)
1. While the HTC Touch Pro 2 is off, press and hold Talk/Send, End and Power until you see a message on the screen about deleting all data.
2. Release the buttons after the message appears.
3. Press the Volume Up button.
once you are done with that I would recommend disabling push internet and also the Dynamic Resource Proxy...
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once you are done with that I would recommend disabling push internet and also the Dynamic Resource Proxy...
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The T-mobile stock ROMs do not have push pages and as such I do not believe it makes use of the Dynamic Proxy.
I came from an Android device (briefly, in between my Wizard to Rhodium). The screen itself is different. This may be part of the lag you are experiencing. I actually prefer the WinMo platform over the Droid one, as it feels more responsive and stable to me. My friends however, who have the the G3 or iPhone hate my Rhodium...so again, I suspect that if, after hard booting your device, it still feels laggy, it may be the differences in how the screen responds versus a Droid screen. The Devs here could explain it in much better techie terms than I.
There is a thread here pushing for a Droid port over to the Rhodium, and I sit here scratching my head asking why. I truly believe that much of it is perception, mine being that Android just isn't for me. You may consider checking out that thread and seeing if the port over is any closer to happening.
In the meantime, I have heard that the Energy roms are quite stable and fast, so you may consider flashing one and seeing if maybe your response issues are handled. Be sure to read up on unlocking/flashing your device first so you don't brick it.
I'm sorry I'm not much help here. I do think though that perhaps some of the issue may be the screen...I could be way off base here too, though.
I am testing out the Dymanic Resource Proxy hack to see if it makes any difference to me. Will let you know what i find, so far idling at about 55%
update:
well, i went ahead and did a system restore, it was faster, but still not to my liking, so iwent ahead and flashed a ROM to make one final test. i went ahead a flashed energy ROM, and i have to say, i very much enjoy it now. ALOT faster, much smoother transition between applications, accelrometer works alot better, an overall greatly improved experience.
thanks to everyone that helped me!
one last question though, after flashing the ROM, my ALT key doesn't seem to work. Any fix? i would do a search, but im already typing a response, so i thought i would go ahead and include it here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550559, should have your solution It's a sticky on this sub-forum a few posts on top of your post =p
b1ck132 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550559, should have your solution It's a sticky on this sub-forum a few posts on top of your post =p
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haha thank you, i knew it would probably be somewhere obvious, but i was just responding and figured i would go ahead and throw it in there
I hope that I'm not speaking out of turn, but I am unable to post in developer thread...SO...I figure this gives me an opportunity to introduce myself during my probationary period, and maybe bring some entertainment to the community through my adventures as a rooting noob.
First off, I decided to root my Evo 4g which I'd kept updated through every OTA the moment it was released. I thought that was the best way to maintain my device, though after the first Gingerbread OTA...I wasn't so sure. For some reason or another, Sense UI would reboot everytime I clicked on the home button. This was obviously annoying, so I looked for alternative launchers.
The only one that I could find at the time was Launcher Pro. I immediately liked the fact that my device seemed to operate normally again, but I wasn't completely satisfied with the lack of customization options. So through some more OTA updates, I finally got one that fixed my Sense problem.
Fast forward to a week ago...I saw that HTC would not be supporting the EVO 4g with an ICS update, yet xda-developers were all over it. Peace out Sprint-HTC...Hello Rooting Community!
Before I continue this journal...I just want to make sure that the Mods/Admins are cool with a guy that is still figuring things out with rooting his own device, sharing some of the highs and lows of the journey from a stock user...to a Rooted Outlaw!!
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I hope that I'm not speaking out of turn, but I am unable to post in developer thread...SO...I figure this gives me an opportunity to introduce myself during my probationary period, and maybe bring some entertainment to the community through my adventures as a rooting noob.
First off, I decided to root my Evo 4g which I'd kept updated through every OTA the moment it was released. I thought that was the best way to maintain my device, though after the first Gingerbread OTA...I wasn't so sure. For some reason or another, Sense UI would reboot everytime I clicked on the home button. This was obviously annoying, so I looked for alternative launchers.
The only one that I could find at the time was Launcher Pro. I immediately liked the fact that my device seemed to operate normally again, but I wasn't completely satisfied with the lack of customization options. So through some more OTA updates, I finally got one that fixed my Sense problem.
Fast forward to a week ago...I saw that HTC would not be supporting the EVO 4g with an ICS update, yet xda-developers were all over it. Peace out Sprint-HTC...Hello Rooting Community!
Before I continue this journal...I just want to make sure that the Mods/Admins are cool with a guy that is still figuring things out with rooting his own device, sharing some of the highs and lows of the journey from a stock user...to a Rooted Outlaw!!
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Yeah. Cool, congrats.
But just a word of caution, Developer threads are for developers. That's where ROMs and other software gets posted. So one day, if you are able to post there...do yourself a favor and don't post something like this there. You'll get blasted.
I don't really see a question there which needs to be answered (this is the Q&A forum an all) but I guess it's more appropriate here than in a dev forum. If you want to post in the dev forum, learn to code and write something useful that you want to share.
Am I the only one that has to hit that captcha refresh about a dozen times to find one I can read? lol
Back to where I left off...
So I decided to root my device...starting first with an unrEVOked3 guide. I didn't realize until unrEVOked3 failed to root my device with the message..."Is your device too new?"...that my journey had only just begun. Through a few more failed attempts with unrEVOked, I found myself trying the rEVOlutionary method. Only, I had previously updated my Gingerbread firmware past that point.
5 hours into the process...too much invested to turn back now...must sleep however since it's 5am.
I toss and turn in bed for a good hour, still trying to figure out what to do next. Did I miss a step?
Next night, after a day of staring at my phone and googling "how to root gingerbread evo 4g", I come across the "Rooting Gingerbread for dummies" thread at the Android Forums.
5 hrs later...I'm now rooted, but still watermarked s-on.
What did I do wrong?
Another night of tossing and turning...I must of screwed up one of the Captain Throwback steps...the sun is up, and so is my daughter...I got a couple of hours of sleep. Back to the computer!
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Yeah. Cool, congrats.
But just a word of caution, Developer threads are for developers. That's where ROMs and other software gets posted. So one day, if you are able to post there...do yourself a favor and don't post something like this there. You'll get blasted.
I don't really see a question there which needs to be answered (this is the Q&A forum an all) but I guess it's more appropriate here than in a dev forum. If you want to post in the dev forum, learn to code and write something useful that you want to share.
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Thanks for the insight bro!
Not really trying to write development material yet, just post some feedback to one of the roms I'm trying in that developers thread.
I realized after creating this thread that I was in the Q&A section...lol...oh well, not quite the audience I was looking for, but I'm sure someone will find an answer to their questions through one of my own problems with the process.
Funny
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA
So I brew myself a fresh pot of coffee and get back to work (playing with my phone)...
Step-by-step I read back through the Captain's instructions...what did I miss? Is it my phone? Do I need to try the TacoRoot method?
when you run the taco root commands it will make your phone very unstable and not useable...
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Uhhh....Alright, back to the Captain!
I'm doing it again...one step at a time. Read everything carefully. No skipping the easy steps that I feel like I've done a dozen times already...adb shell...type EXIT...$
Wait, what? No $, I want #...su...#...cool...EXIT...$?!?
Screw it. The Captain doesn't mention it, so I'm sure it's supposed to happen like that.
Reboot into bootloader...yup, it says locked again...I'm feeling good. Right on track. Why isn't it asking me to update? I never unplugged. The Captain didn't say to unplug...screw it, I'm unplugging. SD card re-mounts..."do you want to start update?"...sweet!
Fast forward through the unrevoked process, and I'm FINALLY rooted!!!
So...now what? lol
I'm gonna Google that..."rooted android now what?" Look at that, someone wrote an article with that same title! Flash Roms, customization, delete bloatware, run root-only apps...
Where to begin...
I first tried the Rom that Captain Throwback has at the end of his thread...I believe MikeG was the developer...CT says with a wink that it will be the last rom I will ever need to flash.
Titanium Backup and Rom Manager are AWESOME programs for the noob rooter. I never felt nervous flashing my first Rom KNOWING that my stuff was backed up, and that someone smarter than me with that device wrote the program that was walking me through the process.
After flashing that first Rom, I was stoked! My phone was running as good as the first day I got it! I immediately starting checking out all of the cool apps that require root access that I could never run before. CPU Master, Wireless Tether, Rom Toolbox...whoa...Rom Toolbox is a kick-ass App! With a capital "A". There is really no need for a few of these other apps that I got since Rom Toolbox does all of that AND MORE.
So I spend about an hour playing with my new apps, and setting up my home screens when I realize...wait a minute...I rooted my phone to get ICS. What am I still doing with froyo?
LOL. Why stop with ICS? you really should try some of the AOSP roms. I am currently running CIUI. very nice smooth rom very lite on space. As for great sense roms... try the Energy sense 3.5 rom release 3/15/12. I used that one and it was awesome but wanted to ditch sense.
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LOL. Why stop with ICS? you really should try some of the AOSP roms. I am currently running CIUI. very nice smooth rom very lite on space. As for great sense roms... try the Energy sense 3.5 rom release 3/15/12. I used that one and it was awesome but wanted to ditch sense.
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I'm done with Sense too. I really like GO Launcher EX. The transition effects appeal to me, and ability to customize nearly everything...icon size, number of pages, item carousel, app folders...I really haven't found something that I want to do that limits me from.
I'll try that Energy sense 3.5 you mentioned though...I'm currently using Alter Rom 0.0.4 pre-release version. It's really nice! Great on battery life, and has that cool TV on/off effect when pressing the power button. I'm still trying to find that option in the settings...lol
Welcome to the dark side... Once you root you never go back to a stock rom....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424926
this is my current daily driver... i use go launcher also.. This rom has the tv on off effects on power button presses. One thing to keep in mind with any sense 3.5 rom or aosp miui(ciui) have issues wiht sprint VVM... there is a workaround but I opted for the easy route and just switched to google voice.
Glad you finally decided to root, and glad you got through the instructions relatively unscathed.
Enjoy your custom ROMs, and I'm glad to have been of assistance .
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Glad you finally decided to root, and glad you got through the instructions relatively unscathed.
Enjoy your custom ROMs, and I'm glad to have been of assistance .
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Thanks for writing that guide bro! I thought that all was lost prior to finding it. The step-by-step instructions, complete with screen shots gave me the courage to finally take the leap.
dbenney said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424926
this is my current daily driver... i use go launcher also.. This rom has the tv on off effects on power button presses. One thing to keep in mind with any sense 3.5 rom or aosp miui(ciui) have issues wiht sprint VVM... there is a workaround but I opted for the easy route and just switched to google voice.
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I'm loving this Alter Rom right now!
I might not ever go back to Sense, TBH. I'm still looking for a fully functional ICS rom...I've seen a couple that are getting close. With 20k people online at any given time here, I know it's only a matter of time.
When that time comes, I just hope that it's awesome...lol...it would be a bit of a letdown if after anticipating something so much, it turns out not to be that great. Kinda like going downstairs Christmas morning, and finding a stocking full of tube socks.
If I were you, I wouldn't commit to anything too quickly. As they say, there are a lot of fish in the sea! There are a lot of great Sense ROMs out there. I prefer SOS X Odex. Running great, and active development. That's just me though. A lot of people love CyanogenMod, and I'll surely try CM9. Others like MIUI which offers something closer to an iPhone if I'm not mistaken. Never used it. There is even a nice WM7 ROM I saw, but it's not my thing. Experiment with different combinations of ROMs, kernels, settings, mods, and tweaks.
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If I were you, I wouldn't commit to anything too quickly. As they say, there are a lot of fish in the sea! There are a lot of great Sense ROMs out there. I prefer SOS X Odex. Running great, and active development. That's just me though. A lot of people love CyanogenMod, and I'll surely try CM9. Others like MIUI which offers something closer to an iPhone if I'm not mistaken. Never used it. There is even a nice WM7 ROM I saw, but it's not my thing. Experiment with different combinations of ROMs, kernels, settings, mods, and tweaks.
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Good point. I can always restore.
I've been reading a lot about kernels...you can only use certain ones with certain roms though, right?
The next mod I want to try is setting up my sd card to ext4. I've backed up my sd on my PC, but I still think that I want to try it out with a fresh sd. I'm rocking that 8gb sd that came stock with the Evo 2yrs ago...so I'm probably more than overdue to upgrade that anyway.
I'll try those three that you mentioned. Thanks for that!
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Good point. I can always restore.
I've been reading a lot about kernels...you can only use certain ones with certain roms though, right?
The next mod I want to try is setting up my sd card to ext4. I've backed up my sd on my PC, but I still think that I want to try it out with a fresh sd. I'm rocking that 8gb sd that came stock with the Evo 2yrs ago...so I'm probably more than overdue to upgrade that anyway.
I'll try those three that you mentioned. Thanks for that!
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make sure you do the research before you partition that sd card and upgrade it to ext4. I have read, if i remember right that our phones dont support sd-ext4. just remember, with most sense 3.5 or higher roms, you may have trouble finding one that has working WiMax and Sprint VVM. This may have changed, but it was due to no sprint phones having this android version factory installed and they were all ports form other carriers.
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I'm loving this Alter Rom right now!
I might not ever go back to Sense, TBH. I'm still looking for a fully functional ICS rom...I've seen a couple that are getting close. With 20k people online at any given time here, I know it's only a matter of time.
When that time comes, I just hope that it's awesome...lol...it would be a bit of a letdown if after anticipating something so much, it turns out not to be that great. Kinda like going downstairs Christmas morning, and finding a stocking full of tube socks.
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You might want to check out Swiper's MIUI ICS? It's an aosp rom and it is one of the few stable ICS roms.
To comment on your posting privileges, I too am on my trial basis. But the thing is i'm not a developer but I have been rooting my evo since I got it at it's release. So i know a few things....I hate i can't post on the developers threads I've helped many via private messaging LOL It's frustrating....
started out using synergy/energy roms, (being more familiar with sense), once i downloaded bw, I had no more need for sense.
(Plug for Deck's ics here) once you go ics, you won't go back.
Regarding your question about kernels, just do the obvious and make sure the kernel is made for that rom (sense kernel for sense rom, aosp for aosp). Other than that, if you read through any development thread, you're most likely going to stumble across which kernels are more successful for each rom. It's usually asked by someone.
Jedi Master 16 or Tweaked 2.4? Why?
Thanks
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I had to delete the words I want to tell you like 3 times...
What are you talking about? How can you be so disrespectful?
I Have the tweaked 2.1 version now and I'm not satisfied, I want to know before leaving it hearing from others experiences...
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I had to delete the words I want to tell you like 3 times...
What are you talking about? How can you be so disrespectful?
I Have the tweaked 2.1 version now and I'm not satisfied, I want to know before leaving it hearing from others experiences...
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Just flash it and find out. Someone may sing praises about one rom but your experience may be different. Then there is personal taste. Something only you can attest to. Just give it a whirl. I was never a huge fan of jedi. Great work, just not for me. You might feel different though.
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No disrespect to the OP - but threads like these tend to be dangerous and often times lead to work for the moderators when things get out of hand. This doesn't always happen, but if I were a betting man and knew nothing more than the first post my money would be on it being trouble.
The reasons for this are what EVO-lution of Man stated - especially between those two it's a matter of personal taste (in other words both are fully functioning daily-driver type material in terms of the basic phone functionality and what not). When people start stating opinions, those opinions can be challenged, then a felt need for defending those opinions takes over and things get messy - usually anyway. It's all about what works best for you, and the only way to really know is to try and see.
That being said - if there is something in particular you are unsatisfied with in the current setup another option would be contacting those responsible for it (hi ) and see if anything can be done.
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No disrespect to the OP - but threads like these tend to be dangerous and often times lead to work for the moderators when things get out of hand. This doesn't always happen, but if I were a betting man and knew nothing more than the first post my money would be on it being trouble.
The reasons for this are what EVO-lution of Man stated - especially between those two it's a matter of personal taste (in other words both are fully functioning daily-driver type material in terms of the basic phone functionality and what not). When people start stating opinions, those opinions can be challenged, then a felt need for defending those opinions takes over and things get messy - usually anyway. It's all about what works best for you, and the only way to really know is to try and see.
That being said - if there is something in particular you are unsatisfied with in the current setup another option would be contacting those responsible for it (hi ) and see if anything can be done.
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I didn't mean unsatisfied, I wrote it because I was mad with that guy at the beginning, anyways.. It is not that, what I was trying to say is that I see that jedi has more features, more new things. At least that's my impression, I might be wrong, any ways... I'm installing the tweaked 2.4 version now because it is the one I've always used.
I want to format my phone and now I have to figure out how to install it with the new system, it would be easier with a simple installer (I'm suggesting ).
By the way, I have an extra camera, how can I delete the new one? I'm good with the old one . (I'm saying the app u use to take pics)
Oh, I forgot, I'm not demanding, this is free! and it's your work, and I'm great full to you for the time invested thanks
All right end of the post, it was a stupid idea.
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I didn't mean unsatisfied, I wrote it because I was mad with that guy at the beginning, anyways.. It is not that, what I was trying to say is that I see that jedi has more features, more new things. At least that's my impression, I might be wrong, any ways... I'm installing the tweaked 2.4 version now because it is the one I've always used.
I want to format my phone and now I have to figure out how to install it with the new system, it would be easier with a simple installer (I'm suggesting ).
By the way, I have an extra camera, how can I delete the new one? I'm good with the old one . (I'm saying the app u use to take pics)
Oh, I forgot, I'm not demanding, this is free! and it's your work, and I'm great full to you for the time invested thanks
All right end of the post, it was a stupid idea.
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No worries. You very well might be right on the feature bit - Jedi definitely has features included that are not in tweaked (his kernel work, xposed framework, etc.), but there are likely a few the other way as well - as it should be as it would be a bit redundant if they were too similar That's not to say some of the features are exclusive to one or the other (using the above examples, ptmr posts his kernel separately and xposed is also something that can be installed separately) - just prepackaged.
I'm not sure whether either of these roms lack much in personalization, but I'll take the hit on the installer bit. I still like the idea, but it's a little different and that's not for everyone. That being said I redid much of the OP for 2.4 in order to address this, so hopefully the install process is a bit simpler looking now. And thanks to Alexea - there are a few more theme options around. I am in no way a themer, so one weakness on the tweaked side is definitely my reliance on others to take up the task and share their work. This does not seem to be a weakness on the Jedi side.
I take it you installed the aosp camera? That's the only way I could see you having two at least - if you want to get rid of the aosp one you can use the modificatinator. If you want to get rid of the samsung one you'll want to delete/freeze SamsungCamera.apk in /system/app.
Feel free to PM me if you have any other thoughts/questions/etc. - and I still think you should at least try Jedi. Personally I rather enjoy flashing things to try them out and see what they are like - and you very well may like it enough to stick with it. Of those who run stock modified roms, I think most use Jedi so it's definitely worth a look.
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I didn't mean unsatisfied, I wrote it because I was mad with that guy at the beginning, anyways.. It is not that, what I was trying to say is that I see that jedi has more features, more new things. At least that's my impression, I might be wrong, any ways... I'm installing the tweaked 2.4 version now because it is the one I've always used.
I want to format my phone and now I have to figure out how to install it with the new system, it would be easier with a simple installer (I'm suggesting ).
By the way, I have an extra camera, how can I delete the new one? I'm good with the old one . (I'm saying the app u use to take pics)
Oh, I forgot, I'm not demanding, this is free! and it's your work, and I'm great full to you for the time invested thanks
All right end of the post, it was a stupid idea.
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A little to. Go to settings, tsmparts. Any feature you could possibly imagine is there. Tweaked is close to AOKP with all the options
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Well I tried tweaked 2.4 for a day and it was OK but I did not really get into it. Was going away on trip and needed something solid that I have used before. So I loaded Jedi master 16 and had so many issue with memory swap. Lost all. Oh well. Just look at last few pages of each and u can see what if any issues are in the rom. Now I gonna try tweaked but need to get hold of chef as to changing my kernel cause it did not do deep sleep at all. Maybe I missed something but need to try a diff kernel.
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Well I tried tweaked 2.4 for a day and it was OK but I did not really get into it. Was going away on trip and needed something solid that I have used before. So I loaded Jedi master 16 and had so many issue with memory swap. Lost all. Oh well. Just look at last few pages of each and u can see what if any issues are in the rom. Now I gonna try tweaked but need to get hold of chef as to changing my kernel cause it did not do deep sleep at all. Maybe I missed something but need to try a diff kernel.
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Not sure if we ever wanted to stay on topic, but since we are diverting...
Sorry to hear tweaked didn't strike your fancy - what kernel did you pick? Safest bet is go with stock - not the sexy choice I know but it won't do you wrong in terms of stability.
dwitherell said:
Not sure if we ever wanted to stay on topic, but since we are diverting...
Sorry to hear tweaked didn't strike your fancy - what kernel did you pick? Safest bet is go with stock - not the sexy choice I know but it won't do you wrong in terms of stability.
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+1 Im very happy with stock kernel running 2.4 Ive always seem to have very minor issues with the "sexy" choice....
I've been running the jedi roms since I've got my note and just switched to tweaked in the last few days. I really like them both a lot but I'm definitely liking tweaked a little more. The whole star wars thing was getting a little old for my taste but it was still a great rom. It's all gonna come down to personal preferences and that's about all there is to it.
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Tweaked is 100x better I tried all the TW roms and Tweaked and the S4 Themed one are the best
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Not sure if we ever wanted to stay on topic, but since we are diverting...
Sorry to hear tweaked didn't strike your fancy - what kernel did you pick? Safest bet is go with stock - not the sexy choice I know but it won't do you wrong in terms of stability.
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I believe I did go with stock. I went from a full charge to 20% in about 10 hrs. Just need more battery life.
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I believe I did go with stock. I went from a full charge to 20% in about 10 hrs. Just need more battery life.
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Oh wow - well the more telling stat on that one would be the screen on time. That's a pretty harsh drop if you weren't using your phone, but if the screen was on for half that time then it's much less surprising. Assuming it was off more than on, there have been a few google apps (mostly maps I think) that have been reported to cause some wake lock issues which could be at the root of it - this would be much more the case if the phone was not deep sleeping (except if you enabled the zerowakelag bit).
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Oh wow - well the more telling stat on that one would be the screen on time. That's a pretty harsh drop if you weren't using your phone, but if the screen was on for half that time then it's much less surprising. Assuming it was off more than on, there have been a few google apps (mostly maps I think) that have been reported to cause some wake lock issues which could be at the root of it - this would be much more the case if the phone was not deep sleeping (except if you enabled the zerowakelag bit).
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I gonna try it again with stock kernel and give it a few days and see from that point.
Tweaked is killing it for me
dwitherell never mind bro... I installed the last version of Tweaked and it's running perfect, oh now that I remember, there is something I'd like you to try to fix if you can. When you hack the volume and you make a call, the other person can hear his voice twice, like an echo. And the volume hack is very important.
Respect to the installer, I did the standard when it first came out on 2.1 I think, and I didn't like it that way (but it was not hard at all... my sister could do it and she has 14), then for the 2.4 I used the simple version of the installer and I liked it. So, forget what I said about the installer. Besides... you can modify everything later.
Oh... this was my question at the beginning, if I delete the AOSP camera, I will delete the gallery as well, and I really like the app for the gallery (I don't use the stock one). Is there any way I can delete only the camera?
So... 2 things:
Camera and volume hack
That's it, and they are not even issues, they work great. Thanks for everything :good:
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dwitherell never mind bro... I installed the last version of Tweaked and it's running perfect, oh now that I remember, there is something I'd like you to try to fix if you can. When you hack the volume and you make a call, the other person can hear his voice twice, like an echo. And the volume hack is very important.
Respect to the installer, I did the standard when it first came out on 2.1 I think, and I didn't like it that way (but it was not hard at all... my sister could do it and she has 14), then for the 2.4 I used the simple version of the installer and I liked it. So, forget what I said about the installer. Besides... you can modify everything later.
Oh... this was my question at the beginning, if I delete the AOSP camera, I will delete the gallery as well, and I really like the app for the gallery (I don't use the stock one). Is there any way I can delete only the camera?
So... 2 things:
Camera and volume hack
That's it, and they are not even issues, they work great. Thanks for everything :good:
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No worries
I've heard the echo bit regarding the volume hack. I'll have to add that to the list of things to revisit to see if I can chase down what edit in particular is causing the issue. Yay trial and error
Unfortunately w/ the aosp camera/gallery - they are both contained within one single apk. Unless there is a sort of fanciness out there I am not aware of (a real possibility granted) I don't think you can have one without the other. I'm not sure if they come up as separate entities in something like titanium backup - but if they do perhaps you could freeze the camera part and see what happens w/ the gallery end? Just a thought
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I've heard the echo bit regarding the volume hack. I'll have to add that to the list of things to revisit to see if I can chase down what edit in particular is causing the issue. Yay trial and error
Unfortunately w/ the aosp camera/gallery - they are both contained within one single apk. Unless there is a sort of fanciness out there I am not aware of (a real possibility granted) I don't think you can have one without the other. I'm not sure if they come up as separate entities in something like titanium backup - but if they do perhaps you could freeze the camera part and see what happens w/ the gallery end? Just a thought
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I'll try that