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Amidst all the furore about the availability of 3 similar crossbow roms for the Universal, I have become increasingly amused by the number of comments from various people in the various threads, complaining about certain things not working, which sometimes work for others and then qualifying their complaints by saying that it is critical that the failing apps work on their devices and are desperate for help....
At the end of the day, if any of your apps are that critical then you shouldn't be upgrading - particularly to Crossbow, as it is very much in its infancy at the moment. I have no doubt that within a short while, the various Rom magicians here will have a number of alternatives available that are 'relatively' stable but anyone who depends on the functions of their Uni to the degree where they cannot survive without them should leave well alone....
Just my opinion
I entirely agree.
Guys, the WM6 roms should not be used.
If you happen to use it, backup first, bolt your windows, and suck it up if you loose your device, your data, or your innocence.
You will of course screw your warranty and a puppy will die. C'est la vie.
V
captainsensible2002 said:
Amidst all the furore about the availability of 3 similar crossbow roms for the Universal, I have become increasingly amused by the number of comments from various people in the various threads, complaining about certain things not working, which sometimes work for others and then qualifying their complaints by saying that it is critical that the failing apps work on their devices and are desperate for help....
At the end of the day, if any of your apps are that critical then you shouldn't be upgrading - particularly to Crossbow, as it is very much in its infancy at the moment. I have no doubt that within a short while, the various Rom magicians here will have a number of alternatives available that are 'relatively' stable but anyone who depends on the functions of their Uni to the degree where they cannot survive without them should leave well alone....
Just my opinion
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I agree with you, it was the same situation back in the days when WM5 popped out
How true! By upgrading to WM6, you implicitely accept any shortcomings, bugs, missing functionality etc. Period.
(We should stick something along this line in a large fontsize on both the frontpage and the forum frontend. Maybe even in blinking red
Can I downgrade to WinCE 2.11 and get a version of active sync that will work on Windows for Workgroups 3.11 please?
Just want to make sure I am using something well established with all of the fixes, and years of background knowledge available for it
Oh, and I will need a serial to USB adapter so I can sync hehe.
Well, there are a lot of people around who want to upgrade to WM6 despite the fact that they have no idea what they're doing. If the average user sees an upgrade to a "New OS" they're probably more likely to give it a go than they would if it was just an upgrade for a bugfix or a re-arranged contacts database (rightly or wrongly).
The intelligent ones will do a bit of reading before deciding whether to even attempt the upgrade. But there will always be some who get themselves in a mess because they've rushed into it.
Fortunately, everything they need to know to get themselves out of their mess is on this forum somewhere - Unfortunately it seems many can't even be bothered to search - so the same old quetions are bound to be asked a hundred times over the next couple of weeks...Still, we all try to be helpful, don't we? (Even if it does get tedious at times!).
lol, no, it bugs the hell out of me, hence the reason I posted this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290234
I was a n00b once, I don't think I posted any lame questions, maybe some, I can't be bothered to go back and look, but from memory, it was only after I couldn't find it with the search that I asked somewhere.
I don't have anything critical I just have to run. Sure, there's software I have bought, and would be irritated if it didn't work immediately after an upgrade, but I am happy to take the risk, I have a Univeral and a Wizard, so I can always use the other if I have problems on one.
It's like this on anything though, something new comes out, everyone thinks they are an instant expert, messes it all up, and then begs for help because they were too lazy and stupid to read a few pages that would have explained it all to them.
Help, I just flashed my Universal to WM7 (Photon) that I downloaded from your website, and now it does not come past the bootscreen anymore ... I need my machine yesterday because my life depends on it, and I did not make a backup and now Microsoft has caused me to ruin my machine causing me to go out of business and you have to help me since I got the rom update from your website!!
(hehehehehe)
Well if you can get to the boot screen, all is not lost.
Get some superglue, and put a few drops into the USB socket.
Plug it in, and give it at least an hour to dry.
Now carefeully hold your device in one hand, and the cable in the other.
Now pull the cable out as fast as you can.
This shold prevent any further upgrading issues, or problems from ever happening to your device again.
Partially I agree, but i mean normal (lame) user who wants to upgrade only to show his palls couple of different # on boot screen. but i think helmi, ivan, indra or all else would never do good,working rom (like ivans aku 3.2, helmi 3.5), which are stable w/o feedback.
worst is here is helluva lot of people with prob."i tried 2 upgr. 2 wm6 & got COUNTRY ID err)
I love wm6 http email function. And somebody get the wm6 messenging in wm5?any hacks?
My mate sent me this, just some info that most people Know.
Testers of Windows Mobile Codenamed Crossbow (or Windows Mobile 6.0) have leaked at least 2 versions of the pre-release online,
According to our source betacollector the pre-release is incomplete, missing a few functions but working fine.
No Windows start orb here, that seems to be cropping up on everywhere on Microsoft software now, but then again WM6 is not yet final -who knows if that will be included in the final release.
The leaked version specs: WM6PreRelease.rar (54177kb) Build date 1/12/2006 (15341.4.2.0) Rom 2.00.02.pv / External Rom 2.02 PDAVIET
Theres also a second one WM6CB.rar weighing in at 59608kb for the MDA Pro / Universal or qtec 9000 that one is older than the above mentioned leak.
AlanJC said:
Well if you can get to the boot screen, all is not lost.
Get some superglue, and put a few drops into the USB socket.
Plug it in, and give it at least an hour to dry.
Now carefeully hold your device in one hand, and the cable in the other.
Now pull the cable out as fast as you can.
This shold prevent any further upgrading issues, or problems from ever happening to your device again.
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Hahahahaha!!
Don't try this at home!!
I did an upgrade to WM6 on a fairly new 9000. Took me almost 6 hours to complete. The damn thing got stuck in the bootloader, lost my RADIo ROM, got it "bricked", managed to un-brick it again, lost my EXT. ROM, but at the end, it worked out and now the "damn thing" works fine on a brand new WM6 ROM. Exept for video calling and a few minor bugs I have no complains.....
Moral of the story. I am a man. Men like to do technical stuff. If you do not know what you are doing, stay off the damn thing. If you like to inflict pain on your self, but know what you are doing, just do.
Fooling around with some new gagets is cool. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't........
In my case, it worked out. Me is happy.........
AlanJC said:
Well if you can get to the boot screen, all is not lost.
Get some superglue, and put a few drops into the USB socket.
Plug it in, and give it at least an hour to dry.
Now carefeully hold your device in one hand, and the cable in the other.
Now pull the cable out as fast as you can.
This shold prevent any further upgrading issues, or problems from ever happening to your device again.
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errrr .... will this speed up my UMTS connection? I tried searching the board on superglue+umts but I can't find anything ;-)
onlineemails said:
I love wm6 http email function. And somebody get the wm6 messenging in wm5?any hacks?
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I thought it was great until I got two eMails in the space of 3 hours that caused it to crash when trying to view them...
Cheers,
Steve.
It got an limit for email for example 10kb and after that it doesnt get the email in full and you can request to get it full,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1104565#post1104565
Hey Guys
i just considered installing the new WM6 Update for my German O2 XDA Orbit...
but as far as I read, I came to a conclusion, its not yet worth installing because of the very poor battery life? Or is this "registry hack" mentioned in another thread really working?
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\ TRUEFFS_DOC1] "Bootphase"=dword:00000002
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\ TRUEFFS_DOC1] "MountHidden"=dword:00000000
Did anybody have a good experience? I am still unsure.
Thx for your hints!
Vic
i have edit, customized and write to XDA Orbit extrom, this is work perfect and i have not problem with battery !!
look this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296276
I'm with you on that nicknicker. It is tempting to do the WWE WM6 but it doesnt seem like it would be as stable as I would need it to be. I travel a lot and relay on the calender/wifi/and email functions of my phone and risking stability is not in my budget. I guess one could ask why I even bother playing with it in the first place...but what I have accomplished thanks to this board has been worth it. I am going to wait for the HTC or O2-UK WM6 release.
I am however very impressed with the fact that these people were able to do this...
i did the WM6 english update as it is described in this forum 5 days ago and the only thing i can say is that its AMAZING !!.. everything works fine , super FAST and i have absolutely no problem..
i havent noticed any battery problem and definetely i will keep this rom.
i recomend it!
My P3300 is running faster than with WM5 before. The battery indeed seems to drain a little faster than in WM5.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\ TRUEFFS_DOC1] "Bootphase"=dword:00000002
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\ TRUEFFS_DOC1] "MountHidden"=dword:00000000
Not realy working for me.
After one night battery goes down with 20-30% only in standby
wakke said:
My P3300 is running faster than with WM5 before. The battery indeed seems to drain a little faster than in WM5.
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Is this not because you're playing with the phone more now that its WM6? I know that when I first got my Artemis the battery life seemed appalling after my previous SE device. After a few days once I'd stopped playing around with it so much the battery life seemed to get better (possibly the battery becoming better conditioned after a few charges?) and even now when I use it more it obviously lasts less time.
Have to say, no issue with battery life since WM6 upgrade here.
I did the OS upgrade only as my device is still CID locked. Perhaps it's something in ther radio flash from the rest of the full package.
I did the upgrade, battery life is worse, but machine is pretty faster than B4.
Another issue is that the call-auto recorder Vitonote software ainta able to record calls anymore. I am waitin for un update.
Each time I did the registery hack my ppc goes bad, with new "extendROM" appears in my storagecard??? wondering why?
Is there a way to flash the windows mobile 6 part only and keep the existing radio version 02.67.90 ?
TIA
Blackfire said:
Is there a way to flash the windows mobile 6 part only and keep the existing radio version 02.67.90 ?
TIA
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This WW6 doesn't touch your radio version at all cuz it aint complete ROM, so Don't worry about Radio here.
markquinton said:
Is this not because you're playing with the phone more now that its WM6? I know that when I first got my Artemis the battery life seemed appalling after my previous SE device. After a few days once I'd stopped playing around with it so much the battery life seemed to get better (possibly the battery becoming better conditioned after a few charges?) and even now when I use it more it obviously lasts less time.
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yes, that can be true what you are saying.
- one thing I noticed is that I am not able to install the gmail midlet... anybody else has this problem?
o2Customer services and WM6
Not sure if this is too relevant to the thread but thought i would share anyway!
I spoke to th lovely people at O2 UK whom suggested the proper release of the WM6 rom for the XDA Orbit (Artemis) will be the back end of the summer!
This being my first XDA, is the the kind of support you get from O2 UK? I mean, Germany have the ROM already available as a download, not only that but their site is far better and far more informative!
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Not sure if this is too relevant to the thread but thought i would share anyway!
I spoke to th lovely people at O2 UK whom suggested the proper release of the WM6 rom for the XDA Orbit (Artemis) will be the back end of the summer!
This being my first XDA, is the the kind of support you get from O2 UK? I mean, Germany have the ROM already available as a download, not only that but their site is far better and far more informative!
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Damn, really hope HTC releases their WM6 sooner, if not i'm gonna send it to Smart Mobility for repair
Gajet said:
Have to say, no issue with battery life since WM6 upgrade here.
I did the OS upgrade only as my device is still CID locked. Perhaps it's something in ther radio flash from the rest of the full package.
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Followed this up. Reinstated the original t-mobile ROM then did the OS upgrade keeping my old radio 02.49.90.
Seems to have worked well. There doesn't seem to be any issue with the CPU being ramped up and so far the battery life seems much better.
Maybe the t-mobile devices don't get on with the latest radio version?
ps does anyone which drains the battery faster exchange server or imap checking every 5 min?
Cheers
Matt
Just recieved this from elf and ported it for artemis - fully working
http://rapidshare.com/files/68159784/Artemis_GSM_Radio_3.07.90.zip.html
ha ha lol - i just see bro tom posted it in upgrading forum
Tom is quickest than you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342807
aje_fr said:
Tom is quickest than you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342807
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I know i just saw it
Well he is younger than me!
meschle said:
I know i just saw it
Well he is younger than me!
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lol, well, so we are both old guys
Good job anyway from you two !!!
lol...
All friends here
running on it now, seems to be no problems with it
that`s great for Artemis,
Flashed 2 days ago, seems no problem,working fine for me
I'm using meschle artemis touch 3.0... any imporvement upgranding this radio version?
TY
Bye
Wow, I had just flashed 2.98.something and now a 3.xxx version. Does anyone know what's new in it?
Can i update straight from Radio rom 02.94.90 ?
meschle - is it worth falshign this on your touch 3 full?
Yes guys flash ahead - in theory should have better reception & battery life.
In my tests its looking good.
Ensure you are uspl cid unlocked before flashing i.e. spl is 1.11.0000
sure thing, will do, tahnks again
can i flash savely in my Vmware?? i am at school now
and can anyone upload it elsewhere? i have to wait 111 minutes :S f*cking rapidshare.
upload it here http://www.speedyshare.com/ its fast and up to 30 MB
ah tom has a mirror
ok upgrading doesnt work with Vmware
Flashed, first time i test call the phone get stuck and i have to do a soft reset. After soft reset the phone stuck on the todaypage, after second soft reset everything seems to work . Thnx Tom
UPDATE: There is a conflict with the Iphone Dialpad Skin, when you are calling and bring up the keypad the phone get stuck.
i use it since yesterday and the battery lifetime is recognizable better.
for speech quality and receiving capabilities, no problem until now...
I I have installed yesterday and is perfectly working without some problem. Good the quality of reception and good the duration of the battery.
Hello everybody!
I'm new here and this is my first post, but i've been watching what's going on since this summer yesterday i installed this version of radio (running Vanilla 3.0 ROM with mods) and noticed that 1 minute of conversation eats approximately 1 percent of battery, so this afternoon i had to recharge my phone again to prevent it from dying. I suspect this is a new radio rom fault. Trying to downgrade to 2.98.90.
Thanks!
Uploaded. No problem so far.
Lost only 8 percent between 6.00 pm and 10.am with no use of the phone.
A friend of mine, stil on 2.98.90, lost 12 percent in the same time with a call of approximatively 10mn.
We are both on Aje1.8
I think that they are equivalent regarding battery drain.
Note that I removed 'battery status' because I lost 5 percent in only 1 hour. This program is a real pain for battery life.
Very very thankyou ppls for your hard work... i really appreciate the hard work of the devs.. but can some1 tell me that when the battery metter is fixing.....i only bought this to use android on it but due to unstable battery indcator i m not able to properly get the fun of android on this device.....seriously i have no intrest to use winmo..i liked the keyboard and read that its android compatiable so i bought it .... i know some ppls will say that go buy something else ..... all i need is battery fix and i think many of the ppls here will agree with me....well i for me i m w8ing more 15 days to see if the proper battery fix appears then i will continue it else i will go for Motorola Milestone...i m not saying that these ppls are not working .. all i m saying that all we need is a battery fix with Wifi
w8ing for the ppls opinions
Thanks
honestly man, whats the point of this post? The devs know whats working and what isn't and I'm sure they're working on fixing and improving things. The fact that you can even boot up and run Android on a Windows Mobile phone shows the dedication and work they've put into this so far, its just a matter of work and time until everything is working, have faith and wait it out
dont be surprised if u start gettin some negative responses.
first off, the battery fix wrks great and is very accurate. there must b something u not doing right. i even posted my initial battery readings in the thread with this new build. actually the battery fix is almost dead accurate. i got 8+ hrs. outta of it yesterday. with overclock, with constant use. so nonoverclocked build will probaly bring even longer use.
second, wifi wrks perfectly.
third, why would u buy a device just to run a project build then if u wanted everything wrking? i understand the keyboard thing but unless u got ur device on a good ass deal, kind of silly to buy it just to run something not even fully completed yet. come on now.
Fourth, b4 u bought ur device, did u thoroughly read everything going on with this build or u just jumped in head first?
this is why so many people getting flamed cuz they dont do the research or homework. then come on here posting about why this or that isnt wrking. or what ASSUMPTIONS they have.
dont take this post the wrong way cuz this will probaly be one of the nicer posts towards u. lmfao juss way too many people jumping in and complaining when they wouldve already known the known issues with the build. which in ur case is incorrect. there has to be something u did wrong.
these are questions to ask self why batter fix and wifi not wrking for u.
Am i using the latest builds? Did i thoroughly follow instructions on installing it? Did i install the build with the battery fix in it? Did I break my battery fix by updating the zImage and modules?(which will break the battery fix). if thats not the case, then, Did i update the latest roofts and inirtd files? Did i even troubleshoot the problems b4 posting saying they dont wrk? lol
im not trying to sound like a dckhead..lmfao but im sure the developers would say the same thing basically.
they might have to implement what they doing on the other threads now. if u dont have a certain number of posts, then dont download and try out builds with doing the research first. a moderator stepped in and said that. cuz way too many people complaining about stuff thats already known or complaining about stuff that wrks but they didnt do it correctly.
food for thought, try the latest build. then DO NOT UPDATE THE ZIMAGE AND MODULES AFTERWARDS. only update the roofts and inirtd files.
if u need help getting it running right, let me know. ill be more thn happy to help or assist u, seriously. srry to sound cranky, just woke up n stressed about other things in life..lol
good luck
jamb said:
... all i need is battery fix and i think many of the ppls here will agree with me....well i for me i m w8ing more 15 days to see if the proper battery fix appears then i will continue it else i will go for Motorola Milestone...i m not saying that these ppls are not working .. all i m saying that all we need is a battery fix with Wifi
w8ing for the ppls opinions
Thanks
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What the hell is the point of this post? Can we lock this thread, please?
@demandarin
1st i was prepaired for the negative response..
2nd... right now i m testing the new 2.2 froyo beta build as stock no overclocked no thing just extract to mc... and testing while calling / messing with it...very much stable rather then old builds :d.....very much stable /nice reponse / no battery warming(which i was worried of) / no force close atleast now.. / played assassin creed and many thing works preety nice.. wel right now i have'nt use wifi or data roaming /
3rd..well i got 2 options 1 was TP2 and 2nd was Motorola milestone ... well i dont like to milestone keyboard but i forgot that it was way slimmer then tp2 / also compatiable with new builds by defualt...well i was tp2 in local market then came to xda and saw the thread about android and just go for it.. as seeing the progress i thought that it will be fixed soon...now i cant tolarate windows-mo anymore just want to go to the android again asap...so i started this thread...
4th well i readed all the faqs / tips everything before buying tp2...like 50%
well its cool , its nice to get a proper postive feedback from a geek :d wel i will defenately ask for help from u if i came across with anything which i will not able to understand..
Thankyou
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What the hell is the point of this post? Can we lock this thread, please?
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the point of this post is to know about battery fix.. because i think its damaging the battery...because while turing on the android the led indicator turns on and battery start heating-up sorry dont sound to be rude but please if u cant help dont bother to post you will waste your time...
Would you all kindly stop being illiterate? English words are made of letters not numbers.
On topic, jamb, you could have dropped the silly threats (Imma buy another phone) and just asked the question.
Considering this phone wasn't intended to even run android..... and you bought it without clearly reading through and seeing what was working and what wasn't... yeah I can see peoples frustrations with your question.
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
It's called development for a reason, its still on going and there is still a LOT of work to be done and no one knows time frames on this. It's like asking when we're going to mars (all be it that might be a very dramatic example)
Regarding the battery. As was discussed... there is a fix and if it isn't working for you then you aren't doing something right. It's accurate and thats all anyone can hope for. As far as becoming warm. Well it probably has something to do with what you are using on your phone. Internet, GPS, etc etc... all at once. overclocking it is a big culprit for the warmness of phones. The more you tax the phone the more it will become warm.
It wont 'ruin' your batter by using the phone... Just be patient and understand that these fixes could come out tomorrow or could never come! Just what it is.
Considering this phone wasn't intended to even run android..... and you bought it without clearly reading through and seeing what was working and what wasn't... yeah I can see peoples frustrations with your question.
Your title isn't so much directed at andoid as it is the people who spend hours and hours and hours developing a working version for our phone. So, yes it can be taken as being insulting, with that people are going to see this post and think "who is this guy?"
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
It's called development for a reason, its still on going and there is still a LOT of work to be done and no one knows time frames on this. It's like asking when we're going to mars (all be it that might be a very dramatic example)
Regarding the battery. As was discussed... there is a fix and if it isn't working for you then you aren't doing something right. It's accurate and thats all anyone can hope for. As far as becoming warm. Well it probably has something to do with what you are using on your phone. Internet, GPS, etc etc... all at once. overclocking it is a big culprit for the warmness of phones. The more you tax the phone the more it will become warm.
It wont 'ruin' your batter by using the phone... Just be patient and understand that these fixes could come out tomorrow or could never come! Just what it is.
My battery meter seems to be working just dandy. I did a test yesterday and it was dead on. When in Android I looked at the battery meter and it was about 3/4 full. I opened spare parts and it was at 64%. I then rebooted the phone into WM (6.5, energy ROM) and opened tbattery and it was at 64%
I chared my phone to 100% yester afternoon around 5pm and after heavy use; 5 minutes twitter updates, constant facebook, automaticl gmail check, and non-stop text, I'm still sitting around 50%.
The work they are doing is awesome.
Sent from my MSM using XDA App
Any battery meter needs to have several complete charge/recharge cycles to be completely accurate (charge phone to 100%, drain until it powers off by itself, repeat at least 3 times). So I would think Android on the TP2 is no different.
Anyway, if the OP got the message that the TP2 is "Andriod compatible", that that was the wrong impression, or at least an overstatement. This is an ongoing project. Given, one where some great folks are putting in tons of work and doing a wonderful job (and much appreciated). But its not perfect, and not the same as a phone which natively runs Android. If that was the OPs intent, then big mistake and he should have done more research before buying.
And its always been posted that the battery meter has issues. I don't know how he could puurchase a TP2 for android and didn't even read the 1st post of the thread.
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Anyone tried buying those larger batteries off ebay? I saw one that's lager but isn't larger in size where you'd need a new back case.
How much difference is 1800mAh compared to 1500mAh anyway? Another hour of life?
Aaron McCarthy said:
Considering this phone wasn't intended to even run android..... and you bought it without clearly reading through and seeing what was working and what wasn't... yeah I can see peoples frustrations with your question.
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
It's called development for a reason, its still on going and there is still a LOT of work to be done and no one knows time frames on this. It's like asking when we're going to mars (all be it that might be a very dramatic example)
Regarding the battery. As was discussed... there is a fix and if it isn't working for you then you aren't doing something right. It's accurate and thats all anyone can hope for. As far as becoming warm. Well it probably has something to do with what you are using on your phone. Internet, GPS, etc etc... all at once. overclocking it is a big culprit for the warmness of phones. The more you tax the phone the more it will become warm.
It wont 'ruin' your batter by using the phone... Just be patient and understand that these fixes could come out tomorrow or could never come! Just what it is.
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1st well i completely readed the faqs that which things was working and which r not ..when i was going to buy new fone i was damn excited that the great devs make it happen to run android on TP2 and because i liked the keyboard and android compatible i thought that battery fix will come soon ... i got no interest to use winmo ..now i m fedup with winmo and just want to switch to android completely thats y i just asked for the battery fix.i m not forcing them to make it for me..just asking
2nd well i got 2 options motorola milestone(totally android ) or htc tp2 .. i was not into motorola devices so readed about tp2 is compatible ..well in my country only 5 or 6% ppls use other brand otherwise the remaining ppls use nokia or samsung so i wasnt able to use tp2 before the only option i got was to use it personally .....
i know that many many works need to be done...
well i readed about the fix but it is working without wifi and as i said earlier , i know its sound mean but all i need is battery fix with wifi...well as for battery warming without internet , no gps , no overclocking , no nothing just used with its original files it was just lying on my table and when i put it into my pocket i can feel that the battery is warming up so i have to restart the fone to switch back to winmo...
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
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well thankyou for ur help ... i really liked your suggestion so within 2 or 3 days i will switch to motorola asap....
Thankyou
1jaxstate1 said:
My battery meter seems to be working just dandy. I did a test yesterday and it was dead on. When in Android I looked at the battery meter and it was about 3/4 full. I opened spare parts and it was at 64%. I then rebooted the phone into WM (6.5, energy ROM) and opened tbattery and it was at 64%
I chared my phone to 100% yester afternoon around 5pm and after heavy use; 5 minutes twitter updates, constant facebook, automaticl gmail check, and non-stop text, I'm still sitting around 50%.
The work they are doing is awesome.
Sent from my MSM using XDA App
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i know they done an awesome job ... i simply love this forum...
redpoint73 said:
Any battery meter needs to have several complete charge/recharge cycles to be completely accurate (charge phone to 100%, drain until it powers off by itself, repeat at least 3 times). So I would think Android on the TP2 is no different.
Anyway, if the OP got the message that the TP2 is "Andriod compatible", that that was the wrong impression, or at least an overstatement. This is an ongoing project. Given, one where some great folks are putting in tons of work and doing a wonderful job (and much appreciated). But its not perfect, and not the same as a phone which natively runs Android. If that was the OPs intent, then big mistake and he should have done more research before buying.
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mate i already did these things like i charged the fone 100% in winmo then switched the android after using for a while like calling for 2 or 3 minutes and some txt msgs and fone pop-up opens of charging the device.. i know its not perfect .. i didnt asked for every fix and i do alot research before buying the device. i spend 2weeks searching about tp2 and android.... and for now all i can say is
I LOVE THIS FORUM AND THEIR HELPING PPLS
I LOVE THE DEVS HERE FOR THEIR AWESOME WORK
AND I M SWITCHING TO MOTOROLA MILESTONE(COMPLETELY ANDROID )because i was tired to use winmo...
1jaxstate1 said:
And its always been posted that the battery meter has issues. I don't know how he could puurchase a TP2 for android and didn't even read the 1st post of the thread.
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i know i know i know ...... i readed the faqs / complete post about .... i purchased the device just for its keyboard after blackberry 9700 i liked this device keyboard and android compatible i thought i going to be fun to use this device...Happy now???
Mods i got my answers and want to close this Thread
Thankyou
Might want to give this a read:
HTC Vision with Android, full QWERTY in the wild
Aaron McCarthy said:
Might want to give this a read:
HTC Vision with Android, full QWERTY in the wild
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thanks mate but its in rumors i think it will release Q4 2010 or Q2 2011... and i dont have that much time ... just fedup with this winmo....android is far far better then winmo
Hey guys,
Firstly, Thanks for taking the time to look at this post.
I bought a Desire HD last month and have been reading about how the battery adapts to your usage and eventually improves within two to three weeks. This hasnt been the case for me unfortunately. I take my phone off the charger exactly at 12 30pm before going to work and by the time I leave work around 9pm, my battery is usually sitting around the 40 - 45% mark with literally two to three minutes of usage throughout my shift! I tried JuiceDefender but didnt help at all. Also, I uninstalled all the apps I installed when I first got the phone just to check if that made a difference - it did not.
Now I'm no expert at this but from what I could make out from other threads, flashing my rom sounds like a promising option.
My question to the experts is, I have only had this phone for a month, I know it will void my warranty if I flash the rom but do I really need the warranty? I mean I never used any warranty before on any of my phones and since this is such a promising phone, I highly doubt it that something could go wrong (ofcourse with the exception of human error like dropping or losing the phone etc.) If I plan on flashing, which rom would you recommend to a rookie with almost no knowledge about flashing and roms etc but very eager to learn? Any tips, advice, anything at all would be really appreciated.
Thanks in advance to anyone thats going to contribute!
Hello,
First I am no expert . I have rooted and flashed just recently but I have learned a few things or two by hanging around excessively on the forum .
In my opinion battery life does improve ,Before rooting n flashing my overnight battery drain on standby mode was abt 9-10% n Now its abt 2-3%.
I started off with CM7 , though it is a very good ROM you won't get battery fix which you are looking for..still you should give it a try..may be it will work for you..
I tried 3-4 More ROMS before settling on MIUI..I keep coming back to it coz the battery life on it just amazing!!!...I get 20 hours+ on moderate usage..
Also radio for a ROM matters a lot...your battery life depends hugely on it...I tried about 6 different radios tll I found the correct one..
Also If you like Sense too much then you can try LeeDroid n RcMixHD both are very good Roms...though RcMicHD is better acc. to me..
So I think you should try these 3-4 Roms n see which suits you best.Hope I helped
Hi, I wholeheartedly agree with aradhyat.
MIUI IMO has all the benefits of Android & Cyanogen + Excellent UI Design.
Your warranty is safe. jkoljo contacted HTC and confirmed that software modifications do not void the warranty. Your carrier/network maybe a bit funny though.
Thanks heaps guys for such quick responses!
If flashing the rom doesnt void warranty, thats just superb. So I will give the mentioned rom a go and see how it works for me. Any tips for a guy who has never flashed a rom or anything like it? I'm pretty good with computers but just havent had any experience on this side.
Also, one question that was unanswered, is this normal for a battery to act this way on a stock rom? I mean the way its acting up for me, drains almost 60% while just sitting in my pocket or on my desk. Did any one of you also experience such a sucky battery life before flashing your roms?
No, your battery should not drain that fast under those conditions. It could be simply a misconfigured app that's hogging your juice.
What firmware are you currently using?
Andriod Version:
2.2
Baseband Version:
12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M
Kernel Version:
2.6.32.21-g66cfb7a
[email protected] #1
Tue Oct 26 15:58:17 CST 2010
Build Number:
1.32.861.5 CL277010 release-keys
Software Number:
1.32.861.5
Browser Version:
WebKit 3.1
well, no, not really, its not normal for the battery to act like that with Stock ROM.
I think it depends on your initial first battery charge time.
::The following story is copyrighted!::
me and my 3 brothers all got the Desire HD.
my first brother charged for approx 20hrs at the first time with the phone being closed, and his battery is fine.
my 2nd brother charged till the battery got full with the phone on, and his battery finishes in half a day without alot of usage.
They both warned me, 1st brother told me to charge for 20hrs, second told me to charge for 24hrs, i charged inbetween (22hrs), and my battery is good!
(but true story)
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my overnight battery drainage is 3%. once i didnt use it for a whole day, and it was still in its 90's.
I think it depends on how you intially charge your phone, it matters greatly (HTC recommends 8hrs charge at first)
Great, your firmware is Ok for rooting directly.
Follow this thread -- > HERE
Then this one --> HERE
There is some overlap, i.e Visionary so no need to perform that twice.
Once done. Install ROM Manager from the market, and flash Recovery from there.
Use 3.x.x.x for Gingerbread based ROMs
Or 2.x.x.x for FroYo based ROMs.
Now you are ready to flash some ROMs!
I turned it on the second I unboxed it (being the impatient pr**k I am). Does that mean I need a new battery? Or is there a remedy?
If you are experiencing such huge battery drain, I think you should get it checked b'coz Even when on stock I never had that much problem.t
Lol..I did the same but did you let it discharge it completely before charging it again or charged it right away after playing with it a little ..
coz I switched mine on as soon as i bought it but let it drain before charging for about 10-12 hours for the first time...
Yea, need new battery.
(try charging battery for a long time, i dont know if it'll help, but it wont hurt to try - IF that doesnt work, then i strongly recommend a new battery)
I was going mad waiting 22hrs!!!, but that meant wayy better battery power!
Search google or something on how to use the battery properly. i've had many issues in the past with batteries, but after reading articles, my batteries last longer now
Not sure if I remember what I did after playing with it, the excitement was so great I forgot about anything and everything else that mattered at that time
Sweet, thanks heaps for your help guys. Will be calling HTC and my service provider today just to double check with them too and afterwards flashing. I'm thinking of going for RcMixHD as alot of people have only good things to say about that rom. Any thoughts or ideas?
Turns out I had 28 days from date of purchase to get it swapped on the spot if there were any issues with the handset. Today was the 28th day, how fortunate!
Anyway, had it replaced and its on charge now, wont be turning it on any time soon though
just some advice
hey just a few words of advice from someone that has done a lot of flashing on numerous phones with numerous software types.
i reccomend getting a few little apps;
1. Titanium Backup (for safety i only back up apps I install + data)
2. SMS Backup and Restore (specifically for backing up sms/mms and works across different roms and even handsets)
3. Faster Fix (just in case if your phone doesnt set gps pool correctly causing a delay in time for fix
and just generally its pretty straight forward how to flash different roms especially after you do it a few times. but i do reccoment patience and time, and you will be fine and if anything happens just ask, everyone ehre is happy to help
Regards
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DHDRookie said:
Turns out I had 28 days from date of purchase to get it swapped on the spot if there were any issues with the handset. Today was the 28th day, how fortunate!
Anyway, had it replaced and its on charge now, wont be turning it on any time soon though
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Hahaha, lucky u! And good luck with ur new battery
Sent from my Desire HD
Started charging at 5pm yesterday and now its 1 30pm, think I'll take a nap before I get down to some serious flashing business. Thanks heaps for your help guys, some day I'll pay back in the form of experience and maybe add something to this community.