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Unistall hardwarekeyboard on Blue Angel?

is it possible to switch off the hardwarekeybord or uninstall the drivers??
thanks for your help.

Start / Settings / Connections tab and select Beam, turn off the receive all beams check box and that will have disabled the hardware keyboard (the keyboard still works but this action frees up the com port) mike

M-Ster said:
is it possible to switch off the hardwarekeybord or uninstall the drivers??
thanks for your help.
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why would you want to??? :?:

I'd like to disable the KB so that TomTom5 will display its soft keyboard.
Tried the beam off and it didn't work. Must admit didn't think that it would though.
Anyone got an suggestions
Wayne

let us know how you get on. im not sure if someone has already tried it tho.
good luck
if it works i think i will do the same then i can re install tomtom5 as im back to using 3

mikealder said:
Start / Settings / Connections tab and select Beam, turn off the receive all beams check box and that will have disabled the hardware keyboard (the keyboard still works but this action frees up the com port) mike
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just read this im sure this is not right. he wants to stop the device from recognising that it has a hard wired keyboard not an external one

OK fair point, I was pointing out the easy fix to get the wired GPS receiver unit to work - turn off IRdA, this will not as you correctly indicate force TT5 to use the on screen display keyboard, nothing will until they i.e. tomtom fix the situation - its just poor code untried and released on to the market - I would love to continue with vs3 but it will not work with my XDAIIs, vs 5 does (at last) but not hapy with the interface, lack of on screen keyboard and the inbuilt POI warner (speed cams etc) is rubbish compared to CheckPOI that I use on my ipaq-4700 - mike

Received this email back from TomTom support today.
"Thanks for your E-mail.
We are working on an update to solve the hardware keyboard problems and with 3rd party GPS receivers.
At the moment we can't give a release date but we hope in this month.
Please keep an eye on our wesbite for latest news."
Hopefully we should have a patch for TT5 this month

to mikealder
Just use overlays from checkpoint (copy ovl.files in tomtom dir)
Worked for me

Anybody find a way to disable the keyboard yet?

Found it, now I can use the on screen keyboard with TTN5
In register of PDA..
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Shell
Change..
HasKeyboard value from 1 to 0

upgrade to tomtom 5.1 solves the keyboard problem with XDA2s - go to tomtom web site to download update

Where is the GPS API gateway in 1.13.53 WWE of JasJar

The GPS API gateway in I-Mate latest ROM (1.13.53 WWE) seems be missing.
If you search in JasJars help under the term GPS, you will be directed to [settings/system/GPS/etc.) but the latest JJ ROM does not seem to have it there, unless I'm missing something.
As result, I can pair a BT GPS, outbound it to P4, inbound to P8, but these ports can not be detectable by a GPS software who does not recognize these virtual ports.
Any advice ?
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Saar

Registry Editor
In HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
The add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
Soft reset
You will find the GPS icon in Settings/Connections

GPS Applet back from the dark
Thank you tekflow.
Works, now I'll see if Destinator works as well...
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Saar

Something looks wrong with the BT GPS connection on the IMate JJ, latest ROM.
- After revealed the hidden GPS applet, thx. to Tekflow !! (why hide it, maybe cause it doesn't work ?)
- Paired 2 different BT GPS devices (RT RBT1000/GS BT-338) to JJ
- Chosen as Outbound Port - Com 4/Inbound Port Com 8 (not that otherwise possible)
- On GPS Applet set common virtual GPS port to Com 9
- Nav S/W (tried 2 different) actually DOES NOT recognize either BT GPS
On the IPaq 27xx, with a Beta WM5 and Widcom excellent and user friendly BT stack, all works like a charm..
Or maybe I am doing something wrong.
Pls help..
Thx.,
Saar

Hi Saar,
I read about this quite a lot looking to find a solution for the problem. It looks like the Destinator cannot see the required COM port in the list. Even when activating the GPS API with the registry it doesn't help.
For destinator there is a solution, for NavNGo I couldn't find one so if you know something I'll be happy to hear.
What you need to do is to open the file destinator.ini with HEX editor and manually change the COM port to the one you need (same one you created when you paired the device I guess it is 8)
and then it will work.
You can find further info here:
http://www.mtekk.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7600&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10
Is DestinatorPN looking fine on your device ? When I tried the menu was all messed up, maybe because of the VGA ?
I could only work with ver 3.0.75
by the way, I wonder why you don't post a question in pocketpcfreak you prefer writing in english more than your own language?
Sagi

Just been playing with this myself, connected my BT receiver to COM:8 and share this using COM:0, TomTom V5 sees both ports but only manages to talk to the GPS receiver on the physical port ie COM:8 not the virtual port COM:0.
Also can anyone explain why most of the COM port are unavailable when pairing BT devices.
And whats QCT Data Interface & RIL Port ? ?
Thanks

Destnator PN and WM5
Hi Sagi,
Thx. a bunch. Tried it to the letter with DPN..had a moment of hope, but it was a short one. Unfortunately.
I'm hanging out here, as I doubt if anybody could answer it on the local forums...you see... I'm usually the Q/A master..so if I don't know...well, you see my point...
Anyway, the problem with the "spread" menus has been fixed.. Destinator PN "X" menus look smooth on the JJ (it's a beta of the next version to come soon). I have inside sources..
However I've used a large part of my box of tricks to make DPN work on WM5, with MS GPS API, and BT Stack, but nada...:-(
Of course we could dig deeper into this, but I assumed somebody may already'd have a clue. That's why we're here for, no ?
Again, thank you,
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Saar

No problems.
In the mean time you can use 3.0.75 it works fine with the tricks mentioned above.
When you have a perfect solution I'll be the first to try it. I like "Nehama" much better than TT5.
If you need another beta tester for the new ver on the JJ just let me know
Sagi

Thx. again.
In fact hex editing the ini fili causes the software to behave just as in your mail..... less actually connecting the GPS. I guess it's a starting point, I'll pass the info to our RD.
Regds.,
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Saar

im having the same problem
Hi Saar!
im having the same problem with Jasjar + navNgo using BT-338
for some reason the program cannot find the gps .
i tried contacting the guys at GPS&more to get support but still no luck.
Maybe you got more luck than me and can help me?

I've just tested with PocketStreets 2005 and that works allright with Jasjar and Globalsat BT-338 after unhiding the GPS in the controlpanel. I set the com port to 8.
Hoooowever... I have serious problems with getting the correct coordinates when using the wm5 gpsapi.dll (gpssample in wm5 sdk). The same sample works 100% with a wm5 qtek 2020 and wm5 qtek 9090.
Anyone noticed anything similar? Or know of a gps app that uses wm5 gpsapi?
/Cheers

JasJar GPS API
David K:
No solution yet, tried also with RBT1000 BT GPS. Outbound Port: Com4, GPS Program Port: Com 9. Same behaviour.
To further focus on the problem, we've uninstalled Destinator and installed a straightforward GPS monitoring App. (Vito Navigator 2). Auto scanning detects Port 9, but does not detect a GPS signal on this port, either from GS-BT338 or RT RBT1000. This excludes the possibility of a problem with D or NG apps.
This also seems to be a hint for a ROM/Hardware problem. I hope it ain't. We're also investigating with HW manufacturer. I'll update if resolved.
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Saar

This is very similar to TomTom, it can see the GPS COM port, but no data is received....
Maybe this is the eason why its been disabled ?

What I don't understand. seems as some JasJars do GPS OK while some other don't..
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Saar

TOMTOM
Actually I use TOMTOM now (5.1)
The software can see all COM ports and it works great with my BT GPS set to COM8 (it does not need the GPS API at all and I can disable it)
Version 5 had same problems as D or NNG and couldn't see the port. the new BT GPS cab file that came with new version solved this problem.
I still believe that it is a D and NNG software issue that can be fixed
I'll be happy to hear any updated from the HW manufacturer when you have them.

SaarAvigour;
Do you have access to an EMTAC BTGPS? I have this working.
You'll need to know the paring key to get this working for the Bluetooth GPS.
I believe you'll only need to setup an Outgoing COM port, I used 8
Microsoft Pocket Streets can be set to COM 8 and it should work.
Only after the GPS has a fix will the second port work, I set this up to COM 6 Pocket Streets can work with either COM 8 or COM 6.
Note that I had to delete the Incoming port I setup to get this to work.
Hope this helps some.

1) Start (menu) | Settings | System (tab) | Bluetooth (icon) |
2) Check Turn on Bluetooth | on Mode Tab
3 Tap Devices (tab)
4 Tap New Partnership...
5 Tap name of found Bluetooth GPS device to select, then next
6 Enter 0000 as the passkey (four zeros) for the Belkin F8T051, 0183 for the EMTAC | tap next
7 You can rename the device on this screen only | Check Serial port | Tap Finish
8 Tap COM Ports
9 Tap New Outgoing Port
10 Select Bluetooth GPS from List of Devices | Tap Next
11 Select COM Port, try 0, 5, 6, or 8 | Tap Finish

Thx. Dah54,
Been abroad, seen your posting only now. I have a GlobalSat BT 308, but the principle is simillar. I got it all working with Destinator.
thx.,
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Saar

Destinator on JASJAR
Hi Saar,
Since lots of people are trying to get it work, and tried to help you, it will be nice of you tel explain how you got it work for all other users who are still struggling ??

gps
By all means, thought I did...sorry
Pair your GPS
Start/Settings/Connections/BT
Set GPS Serial Outbound Port to Com 8 (Com 4 possible, but was not detected by some specifically tested SatNav apps.)
Unhide your GPS Control Panel (still a mistery why some OEMs decided to hide it, and others not to)
Use a Registry Editor
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/ControlPanel/GPS Settings
Unhide the GPS Control Panel by modifying from (1) to (0)
Confirm by exiting and saving (OK button)
Your GPS Control panel will feature now, in its all grace, in Settings/System
There's another modification suggested,that will put the pannel under Settings/connections, but why change the original setup
Set your GPS Virtual Port
Start/Settings/System/GPS
Leave Hardware as ("None")
Set Programs to Com 8
Save and Exit (OK)
Soft Reset
Probably a reason to lots of failures. Suspectedly, the GPS control panel makes changes to registry. No SR, and changes are non active.
Works for me with various SatNav apps. Here, case closed....
Saar

How to Programm the GPS?

Hello,
does anybody know how to programm the GPS Modul?
I tried to change GGA to 1.
Can somebody help me?

Have a look here ...
www.franson.com They sell a module which you can easily program to with visual basic. They demo programs work without a modification. With Visual Studio you can start programming in a hour or so, after having had a look at the samples.

I think meer wants to adjust the SIRF-III-Chipset, which is used in the Orbit.
Most tools "Sirfdemo" etc. wont work on the Orbit. :-(
I'm searching for a tool which can toggle SN (Static Navigation) off on this device.

Hi,
I tried almost everything to program the internal GPS receiver of my P3300, but did not succeed :-(
First, I tried to get direct access to the hardware GPS port (COM 3), but failed to open this by any way. Eventually, I even sent my device into the Boot-Loader mode, redirected the GPS receiver to the USB port by using the GPSRouting command and connected via USB the SirfDemo 3.81 program. Results were very strange:
Using GPSRouting without a parameter gave me binary output data which SirfDemo was not able to handle.
Starting the the receiver at 57600 baud (by using the command "GPSRouting 57600" gave me NMEA output, which SirfDemo was partly able to handle. Some messages appeared correctly in the debug window, but most output of the GPS receiver resulted in SirfDemo in error messages. Really stranges!
I DID NOT FIND ANY WAY TO SWITCH TO SIRF MODE, which is necessary to program the internal sirfIII chipset.
I finally gave up and hope that one day HTC will surprise us with a nice tool to enable/disable Static Navigation and SBAS mode.
GeenZ

Have you tried using COM4 which is where the actual GPS receiver can be found? - Mike

mikealder said:
Have you tried using COM4 which is where the actual GPS receiver can be found? - Mike
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Of course, trying to use COM4 was my first attempt.
However, COM4 is the output port of the MS GPS Intermediate Driver (GID). This is a software com port, which seems to be not the best implementation of a virtual comport splitter. There are a couple of programs out there, which have serious problems with the GID port, but do work with other (better) virtual comport splitter such as GPSGate.
Anyway, trying to program the internal GPS via the GID port did not work at all. That's why I was next trying to get direct access to the hardware GPS port (COM3), which did not work either, before I bravely sent my device into boot loader mode (unfortunately with also no success)...
Any other hints or suggestion are still highly appreciated.
GeenZ

Can i disable Static Navigation on XDA Orbit?
Any news about this?

do we have to give up any hope !? :'(

Please read my thread
Explains it, i could post some code to get you up and running, but what language are u working?

Slovek said:
but what language are u working?
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thanks but just trying right now to understand how to get rid of this infamous GPSID !

Anyone knows how to turn off static navigation now? A programmer gave me a tool which perhaps can turn off static navigation on the p3300. But I'm afraid of testing it.

Minipli said:
Anyone knows how to turn off static navigation now? A programmer gave me a tool which perhaps can turn off static navigation on the p3300. But I'm afraid of testing it.
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are you talking about spGPSView ?!

The name of the tool is SirfTech. What about spGPSview? Can you disable SN with it?

Minipli said:
Can you disable SN with it?
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Yes, Moreover, this prog. seems to be more "accessible" than SirfTech !

Are you serious? You can really disable static navigation on htc p3300 (artemis) with spGPSview? I often read that it wouldn't be possible....

Minipli said:
Are you serious? You can really disable static navigation on htc p3300 (artemis) with spGPSview? I often read that it wouldn't be possible....
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the question should be : is it effective or not ? but it can be changed !

What port do you set?

Ward said:
What port do you set?
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com4 but the gpsid implementation of Orange is different from the HTC one as they are selling the M650 with their own navigation soft...

I have an XDA Orbit, so...
I've had no luck connecting to the GPS hardware with or without the MS Software splitter. Although other applications such as Beeline and iGo work fine.

spGPSview doesn't work with htc p3300/ xda orbit ....

Direct Access to the internal GPS ??

Hello there,
Did anybody find out how to access the internal GPS of the HTC P3300 without using the GPSID (GPS Intermediate Driver)?
Although the internal GPS works fine for me with many programs (TomTom, Pathaway, Fugawi, VisualGPSce, etc.) I did not find a way to program the internal GPS using any of the common GPS tools (such as SirfTech, Aplsirf, CeMonitor, GPSTweak, etc.). In particular I'm very interested in enabling/disabling the SN and the SBAS Mode.
I'm guessing that programming the internal GPS via the GPSID is not possible (or not supported) while it might be possible by accessing the hardware GPS directly. However, I don't know how to do so...
During my investigations I found out the following details:
Based on the MS GPSID Reference the HTC P3300 must have a plug'n'play based internal GPS receiver, as there's no valid registry key found in the corresponding HKLM/System/CurrentControlSet/GPS Intermediate Drivers section.
Looking into the HKLM/Drivers/Active section for a suitable pnp GPS driver I only found COM3 (SerialGPS.dll) which for me seems to be the corresponding hardware driver for the internal GPS. However, accessing COM3 always fails for me with any program.
Does anybody know how to get COM3 (SerialGPS) to work?
Or does anybody know how the GPSID talks to the internal GPS and why I can't do it directly (or how I can do it directly too)?
Any help and discussion is higly appreciated.
Thanks, GeenZ.

Have you tired to delete the gps driver in registry, and after a softreset tried to access direct on com 3 ?

pklein90 said:
Have you tired to delete the gps driver in registry, and after a softreset tried to access direct on com 3 ?
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I already have tried disabling the GPSID. This can be done either by the GPS control panel or directly in the registry by setting the key HLKM/System/CurrentControlSet/GPS Intermediate Driver/IsEnabled to "0".
The effect was that the virtual GPS COM port from the GPSID (COM4) was no longer available, but COM 3 still did not work.
Does deleting and softreseting make a difference to disabling?
How could I "completey delete" the GPSID in the registry?
Thanks, GeenZ

I'm interested in this too since I've found reading from COM4 using CF 2 is really buggy and hangs the device. I wanted to see if talking directly to the GPS instead of the intermediate driver would speed things up a bit.

Hi,
As I reported in this Thread I did not find any solution to get direct access to the GPS port.
GeenZ

indiekiduk said:
talking directly to the GPS instead of the intermediate driver would speed things up a bit.
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it would also probably solve the problem of M650 users stucked with a different firmware version of this internal GPS which doesn't work under wm6

If you would take a look at my following thread
it explains the problem.
Alot of people think they cant connect to the GPS device, but actually it is connection but just nog receiving data the right way.

Slovek said:
If you would take a look at my following thread
it explains the problem.
Alot of people think they cant connect to the GPS device, but actually it is connection but just nog receiving data the right way.
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Thanks Slovek
Should we Thank HTC for this great feature ?!

Already had contact with them, initially they put this up as a 'feature' but about a month ago i received a short list of questions regarding the GPS module. so i hope their going to change this.

Hope so
at least for the "perennity" of this device !

samsung omnia gps problem!

I've got a samsung omnia and i have installed TT7.
TT7 works with a external gps mouse, but the enhanced gps doesn't work. Can anyone help me with this problem?
Is there a tool,to fix this?
Greetz Snake

gps in omnia
snake-eyess said:
I've got a samsung omnia and i have installed TT7.
TT7 works with a external gps mouse, but the enhanced gps doesn't work. Can anyone help me with this problem?
Is there a tool,to fix this?
Greetz Snake
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i use igo8 in omnia and gps signal work in port 3 baud 38400 but first time i wait 1 houre outside whit clear sky for satellite....just wait....

Use "gpsgate 2.6"
i use gpsgate 2.6 and to get signal and position take maximum 5 minutes with very heavy raining condition.
GPS setting
1. Configure WM6.1(OMNIA) (Settings - External GPS):
- Programs : COM2
- Hardware : COM9 baudrate : 9600
- Access : activate the check box
2. install GPSGate 2.6
3. Configure GPSGate :
- Input : COM2 baudrate : 4800
- Output ADD : Virtual COM Port . NMEA Filter
Active : Virtual COM6 / (All NMEA) Filter
4. Configure Tomtom :
- GPS Settings : Other NMEA, Speed : 4800, on Franson COM6
This is my setting for TOMTOM7 and i hope igo8 setting work same

I use iGuidance 4.0
The GPS sw has an auto GPS port detection and it works really good except once in a while, the screen went blank if left untouched for more than one minute (setting) even though the buttons were still working. It could be a power mode saving (turn off LCD after 1 min) a compatibility issue with Omnia's higher resolution WVGA screen and the 4.0 ver is more than one year old to work well with WM 6.1.

SOS PLZZZ
i also have the samsung omnia ( i900 )
ive tried to use google maps and few other apps but my GPS just does not want to connect. ive tried all com ports etc , on default google maps does say roughly aftyer 2 mins 3 or 4 satalites connect but only for few seconds and it seems i NEED to connect to gprs 1st.
this was outside on a clear day. am i missing something?
has any1 solved this problem ?
ive checked google and this does seem to be a bit of a problem. im with orange (seems vodafone has enhanced settings?)
are there any updates or programes that can fix this?
plz help.

just............
Go to setings to disable external gps, after that use tweak and let windows set your gps mode, because omnia is built in gps reciever.

There is a good post here on working Omnia GPS software and some users with first hand experience.
They helped me a bit,
http://www.omniadevelopers.com/known-working-gps-software-for-the-omnia-t4.html

hi there
hi mate even i did the same thing but i am afraid to say that TOMTOM is no good for OMNIA. IF U WANT TO USE NAVIGATION ON OMNIA THEN BEST ONES ARE iGO OR BETTER THEN THAT GARMIN XT...TRY THAT...AND U CAN FIND GARMIN HERE ITSELF JUS LOOK AROUND.

when u say tweak u mean playing about with the com ports till it works?
and thanks for the link about omnia GPS..explains alot.. will have to tryin running faster :s

Have you tried typing in *#1472365# into their Omnia2?
It brings up some extra gps settings, some of which are similar to settings that can be reached in registry but some are unique.
The main one that was of interest to me was the start up mode of GPS.
Mine was set to cold start which meant that every time i started my tomtom it did so by deleting all previous data.
This meant i was on a cold start each and every time i used it which was why it took forever to lock sometimes.
I have now changed this setting to "hotstart" and my locks are instant.
See post 95 onwards at the following link for more info on tomtom with omnia
http://www.modaco.com/content-page/2...omnia/page/80/

route66 läuft 1a ohne portsplitter etc =)
out of the box!