AGPS sucks, any methode to remove it? - P3300, MDA Compact III General

SPV M650 French Rom.
30 s-10mn to get gps connexion. So want to know if any application can get rid of this agps fonction?

not just remove keys in registre. this methode just does not work, and delay could exceed 10mn.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=292178
this thread was for slow fix using Quick GPS, which is preinstalled on Orbit
Try that to see if things speed up
I get a fix in 15-30 secs, although I no longer use the above fix - HTC's servers seem to be updating properly
Hays

thanks, but french orange spv m650 does not have quickgps, but agps, i guess it is different.

Yes aGPS is supposed to speed up the time to fix with satelites by making a rough guess of the general location your in based on which phone cells you are registed to.
QuickGPS works by having an estimate of satelite positioning.

Related

GPS Navigator Quick Patch(Multi-language)

actully, it is a 50kB tiny software once came with official rom......working on wm6.
it have only a simple dialog. Auto-select Multi-language.(i see some resouse in Ita, Ger... ...)
Function:it downloads a 3-days global sattelites position data into your mobile, (use GPRS about 1kb), then in next 3 days, the navigator software(like tomtom) will get sattelites signal in 5 seconds!!! no matter how you shutdown or reboot.
i have no idea how it works, but it really works wonderful !!
After data downloaded, it can be exit (the data will still working), so it won't occupy any memory.
as i said in my other threads, my english sucks, and maybe something i am posting is a ages-old-news to others, but please dont laugh at me
Works great!!!!!!
Thanks.
Can you please clarify from which "official" WM6 rom you took that out from?
Hope you are not talking about MIO A701 and it wasn't placebo effect
ww2250 said:
Can you please clarify from which "official" WM6 rom you took that out from?
Hope you are not talking about MIO A701 and it wasn't placebo effect
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it is from a Dopod (oem from HTC) simplify chinese and China Mobile Company oem software wm5 rom. Should exist in some other language rom but so far no further infomation about souce.Delivered too many times before i get it.
nothing Copyright&About info in this software, but it is very well designed and someone spend lots of time to make it good and with so many languages. although it is old, the server which it gets data from is still working fast and the satellite position data is uptodate every hour. so i guess it must come from something big, like HTC company or a global orgnization.
it is ok for you to doubt its effect (because i did too)
For example, if you usually need about 2 minutes to let navigator working after a cold-reboot. Install this software and update once, then do as many reboot as you want, however the navigator will take only 5 seconds to get satellites, except you are staying in house or you run the navigator after more than 3 days from you last update.
the compare result should be obvious, But i am glad if u tell me it is not working on yours, cause i cant figure out how it working.
no problem to install the log on my trinity, but the download of the satellite base is impossible by GPRS or wifi !
thanks.
does it download data via HSDPA?
Just tried this on my Trinity. Installs fine and downloads ephemeris data via ActiveSync fine but doesn’t appear to decrease TTFF…
There’s been plenty of banter around why A-GPS (whether it’s from your carrier or pre-downloaded) won’t work with the Trinity driver for the GPSOne QualComm chip, but I thought I would try anyway. Love to be proven wrong
download ok after a soft reset.
but in TomTom, no change; so don't work on (my) trinity ...
Hi,i think like quickgps that is a placebo effect with qualcomm
installs and downloads the ephemeris file fine.
Not sure it actually doing anything- as posted by numerous other folks.
Even so, it was a very good price ;-)
this morning i tried once more, and it takes 30 seconds, didn't works as good as yesterday. but still faster then normal.
i believe the reginal setting should be setted to real location.
monamibouli said:
no problem to install the log on my trinity, but the download of the satellite base is impossible by GPRS or wifi !
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same thing
kalechen said:
it is from a Dopod (oem from HTC) simplify chinese and China Mobile Company oem software wm5 rom. Should exist in some other language rom but so far no further infomation about souce.Delivered too many times before i get it.
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Let me fill you with the gaps:
SeaSGEE.exe
Company: MiTAC
File Version: 1, 0, 0, 1
Internal Name: ee
Sounds familiar with you?
ww2250 said:
Let me fill you with the gaps:
SeaSGEE.exe
Company: MiTAC
File Version: 1, 0, 0, 1
Internal Name: ee
Sounds familiar with you?
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Thanks, i use the file name to search and find more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=292178&page=3
for me it's work fine : I've just instal and try it with TomTom. It take 20sec to do the cold first fix. If it's a placebo it's a good one!
My usually cold first fix was in 1 or 2 min.
ps : I use UDK WM6. Gps settings : com9, 57600baud / TomTom settings : other NMEA GPS, COM9, 57600baud
My S300+ is now as fast as my old MioA701.
Does not seem to work on my Trinity here in the UK,
still takes for ever to get a fix.
Guys, I don't want to pour cold water on to your dreams - but this cab is for Mio, presumably A700/A701 that contains a SiRF-III chip. This would be useful to P3300 aka Artemis - but should have no effect on those Qualcomm chips.
If someone do get the version from Kaiser working on Trinity, I'm more than happy to know
Just installed, downloaded satellite file.
Did a very very cold fix (a few months without launching TomTom) : took 5 min to fix.
My 2 cents : definitely placebo effect
SeeGSEE
I tried to use this on my P3300 for a couple of weeks and it never worked. Gave me some error about network connection not made. I just uninstalled it and went back to using the Quick GPS Fix file that redirects the DL from different servers (unknown) from HTC's. Don't know how effective it is but it downloads at least.
shawndh said:
I tried to use this on my P3300 for a couple of weeks and it never worked. Gave me some error about network connection not made. I just uninstalled it and went back to using the Quick GPS Fix file that redirects the DL from different servers (unknown) from HTC's. Don't know how effective it is but it downloads at least.
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after i dowload the file i close quick gps...then before start tomtom i have to start quick GPS? quickGPS no need run in background? i start quick gps only for download file?
ITA
una volta scaricato il file, prima di avviare tomtom devo avviare sempre quick GPS? oppure non serve avviare quick GPS? va avviato solo per il download? non necessita sia in background?

Artemis problem with GPS

I have got here a upgraded Artemis and it just does not want to work properly with GPS. All the satellites are in the north point and it never gets a valid signal. I have already tried to flash it to the black & blue ROM but it still happens. The navi software i am using is TomTom 6.032.
Anyone got an idea what to do? It never works, not even on the street.
This fix is for SPV M650(ARTEMIS)
sdkcerts-run first
Kulbut0r GPS Quick and Dirty Fix for SPV M650 =second
after go to options=system=external gps
1 tab=com 4
2 tab=no com=baudrate 4800
3 tab=automat
in tom-tom=gps settings= try builtin resiever if not go to=other nmea device=baudrate 4800 or 9600=com 4
sorry for my bad engl
THIS FIX IS WORK IN ANY ROM!!!
BIG THANKS GOES TO KulbutOr from France!!!
Sorry for my bad english-I AM FROM RUSSIA
Also You can try this programm to reset your gps reciever
At first you need to go
after go to options=system=external gps
1 tab=com 4
2 tab=no com=baudrate 4800
3 tab=automat
After start this progr port=4=baudrate 4800=automat===reset settings
In This plase-contacts of your internal GPS antena
when you try to connect satelites try to push this place-may be your antena have no contact with plate....
Thank you, it works! Vovander80, if you like, we can speak Chinese. Cheers!
if you like, we can speak Chinese
Sorry only=Russian+Romanian+Moldavian+Ukrainean
With GPS of my SPV M650 I fought 2-3 weeks
I have more another program-but these basic = think this is enough
I have done all of that but nothing helps. I simply can't get my GPS to work. IT shows me that all the satellites are in the north position and that is about it. I have changed the firmware and i have used all the fixes recommended here including GPS reset with no success. When i connect my BT received it works fine but that is not the point of having inbuilt GPS
I really hope someone can help me to get this damn phone working. Would it work better with WM05? If so has anyone got a link to it?
Thanks again to everyone helping in here.
I haved some problem=one satelit in north!
my problem was in contacts of antena!!!
Try to connect outside antena(back side connector!) i think you have some problem like my
http://rapidshare.com/files/21643937/Artemis-Inside.zip
On 6 page at right+up side you can see your gps antena
On 9 page you can see your contacts(problema!!!)
Try to make good connection!!!
If you speak french:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341952/#6
Otherwise, i'll explain in english cause I had the same problem:
I tried with the first Kulbutor patch (in my link)
If you install it just after the flash; there is no problem.
Moreover, if you are using Orange with AGPS, it works also. after having install the Orange.cab
Be carefull you must wait this (or these) install(s) before running tomtom; otherwise, it won't work
Hoping it will help you,
Regards
Thanks for the help. There is no Link in your Link. The link does not work at all. Please repost it. Thanks
Modified with right link
GPS problem with GPS cam
Hello,
I just installed the artemis touch 4.02 WWE on my XDA I orbit. Everythings works fine, also Tomtom and visualGPS. But the GPS cam seems to be not able to start built in GPS when launching camera for GPS photo. The first time when I started the GPS cam, a pop up appeared with message "initializing GPS" or something like that, and I cancelled it by tapping cancel button. Now GPS cam is not working any more. Will this fixes solve my problem?
Thanks a lot in advance.
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A-GPS working on TP2

If anyone is interested I have got A-GPS working on my TP2, unbranded standard WWE ROM, Vodafone UK network.
The steps performed are as follows (As always, Use at own risk, make sure you have a backup etc etc...)
Install T-Backs GPS fix http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=188959&d=1243353858
The CAB above sets the defaults for tha ATT network, the following settings are the ones I use, and should work anywhere (AFAIK).
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"EnableAGPS"=dword:00000001
"GPSMode"=dword:00000002
"TLSHostName"="supl.nokia.com"
"ServerURL"="supl.nokia.com"
"Network"="internet"
"GPRSConnection"="Contract Internet"
"DynamicURL"="supl.nokia.com"
"APN"="internet"
"CloseConfirmMsgTime"=dword:00000000
"PrivacyMethod"=dword:00000000
"EnableLocInfo"=dword:00000001
"ServerPort"=dword:00000000
"EnabledPrivacyMethod"=dword:00000001
"QosPerformance"=dword:00000059
"QoSAccuracy"=dword:00000032
"TimeBetweenFixes"=dword:00000001
"NumberFixes"=dword:3b9ac9ff
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and
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL]
"AGPSNVSetting"=dword:00000001
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Note you will need to change the APN, network and GPRS connection to suit your network
This fix definatly works on my phone, I have analysed the debug logs and the NMEA logs and can see the data being downloaded and injected into the driver.
I now get a cold GPS fix in less than 20 seconds, whereas with AGPS turned off I could be waiting for 5 minutes or more for a cold fix.
To see if it is working on your Phone, first you should see a GPRS data connection established then using the HTC GPS test tool to examine the NMEA data you should see a $GPCELL entry after a few seconds.
Hope this helps.
Tom
hey Tom, something you might find of interest,
I had already set up my agps as you have said above with nokis.supl and my agps was workin great, after reading your post i changed the Reg setting for Ril/driver to 1 and SR ( mine was set to 5) as you suggested. and although i was still recieveing the NMEA info, i couldn't get a lock, changed it back to 5 and Lock from cold in 15 seconds!!
I don't know what the decimal 5 instructs and possibly its radio related? i am still using stock 3.44.25.25.27
Anyway great post
Frogfoot, how does the performance with A-GPS enabled compare to the performance with it disabled? How sure are you a) that A-GPS actually is enabled, and b) that it is A-GPS that is making the difference? I ask, because I can get a lock in 10 or 15 seconds with A-GPS turned off. Simply installing the GPS patch did that for me!
How does the performance with A-GPS enabled compare to the performance with it disabled
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I have found that I get a much faster lock when 'cold starting' the GPS, ie after the ephemeris data has expired (if you havent used the GPS for say a week) or you have changed location by say 50 miles since you last used GPS. Without aGPS a cold start would take several minutes, however with aGPS working it takes a matter of seconds. (there is no difference in a 'warm' or 'hot' start scenario).
How sure are you a) that A-GPS actually is enabled
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I installed the debug tools and could see the procedure calls reading the registry entries, opening the GPRS connection downloading the data etc. And I also used the HTC GPS tool to log the NMEA stream and searched through to find the response from the supl.nokia.com server in a string marked $GPCELL
I ask, because I can get a lock in 10 or 15 seconds with A-GPS turned off.
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I expect that what you are seeing is what is known as a 'warm start' where the GPS chipset has cached the Almanac and ephemeris data for the last known position and uses that to jump start the connection. That is fine untill you go for a long drive/flight with the GPS off and then it assumes you at the old location or there abouts. This can cause the GPS to think that the wrong satalites are overhead and therefore take longer to lock on. The other scenario which benifits from agps is if you dont use the GPS for a while, the cached Almanac and ephemeris data expires and needs to be downloaded again. This is what causes the long TTFF (time to first fix)
Quick GPS as far as I can gather is supposed to download predicted almanac and ephemeris data for your region and inject that into the GPS driver to facilitate a faster TTFF however I have yet to notice any difference when QuickGPS is up to date as opposed to it having expired data.
Hope this clears it up a bit.
Cheers
Tom
osrix25 said:
hey Tom, something you might find of interest,
I had already set up my agps as you have said above with nokis.supl and my agps was workin great, after reading your post i changed the Reg setting for Ril/driver to 1 and SR ( mine was set to 5) as you suggested. and although i was still recieveing the NMEA info, i couldn't get a lock, changed it back to 5 and Lock from cold in 15 seconds!!
I don't know what the decimal 5 instructs and possibly its radio related? i am still using stock 3.44.25.25.27
Anyway great post
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Very interesting, do you usually connect with GSM or 3G? I have only tested this with GSM, and have not experianced the problem you describe.
Tom
For completeness sake here are two useful apps for general GPS testing
CleanGPS.cab, very useful to reset the ephemeris and almanac data and HTC GPS Test tool for diagnosing GPS fix problems
Apologies if this has newbie written all over it... What would I need to change for this to be compatible with T-mobile US service? Looking at the cab registry keys, it looks like I should be fine as is.
Thanks!
Thought I would mention what I've been using on my TP, very similar with a nice cab.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478199&highlight=t-mobile+agps
The only thing you might wanna change is the connection settings to match the name of your data connection...
For the benefit of us newbies, could someone clarify what changes (if any) need to be made to the above registry values to get this working on O2 in the UK (if this is possible)?
Already test mine using agps setting from frogfoot, but it doesn't work on my TP2,
Frogfoot may i know what Radio version you used to enable AGPS on TP2
Thanks
I know my GRPS connection, but is there anybody know what is "APN"? How can I set it?
I found here the APN setting is empty.

HTC pro2 GPS , help!

Hi guys
I got my first WM phone HTC pro2 recently from Vodafone UK. Everything is good except GPS. I read this forum carefully. I did hard reset, soft reset, set different port and baud, download QuickGPS, I also try some tweaks, buy GPS still not working. when I open Google Maps, clicked the use GPS, after “seeking satellite…” near ten minutes and Google Maps told me I have GPS problem. HTC GPS tool show me GPS signal was 0 and only a red spot on the top of circle. Other GPS programs such as “GPS test” and BeeLineGPS had same result like HTC GPS tool. Open Garmin, always said “searching satellite …” and Tomtom told me “Poor GPS receptions—are you inside the building?”
My questions are, based your guys experience what happened? It is hardware problem or the setting’s problem? When you guys talking about the GPS cannot get fix, do you have GPS signal on the GPS program (like signal strength, some red and green spots on the circle etc)? If I flash hard-SPL and other Radio Rom can resolve my problem? Are there other solutions? Warranty.
I used destinator 7 on a small trip, and was able to work.
However, looking at the settings screen where the signal for each satellite was displayed, I cannot say I am impressed. The signal strength was extremely low...
Can you install destinator and try also yourself?
Apologies if this is very basic, but I assume you are outside with a clear view of the sky when trying it out?
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Hi guys
I got my first WM phone HTC pro2 recently from Vodafone UK. Everything is good except GPS. I read this forum carefully. I did hard reset, soft reset, set different port and baud, download QuickGPS, I also try some tweaks, buy GPS still not working. when I open Google Maps, clicked the use GPS, after “seeking satellite…” near ten minutes and Google Maps told me I have GPS problem. HTC GPS tool show me GPS signal was 0 and only a red spot on the top of circle. Other GPS programs such as “GPS test” and BeeLineGPS had same result like HTC GPS tool. Open Garmin, always said “searching satellite …” and Tomtom told me “Poor GPS receptions—are you inside the building?”
My questions are, based your guys experience what happened? It is hardware problem or the setting’s problem? When you guys talking about the GPS cannot get fix, do you have GPS signal on the GPS program (like signal strength, some red and green spots on the circle etc)? If I flash hard-SPL and other Radio Rom can resolve my problem? Are there other solutions? Warranty.
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yes , i am in open field, far away from building, several times, more than 40 minutes. thanks I will try it. but I am wondering why signal strength is 0. low strength, hard to fix and no signal strength is totally diferent issue, i guess.
I am proposing the destinator, because it has a function that detects the port & some settings of the gps...
I am on Sprint in the US, but this worked for me. I am not sure if you did this.
If you have TouchFlo enabled go to the Settings Tab, then go to All Settings.
In the all settings, click the Personal then click Phone. In there click GSM/UMTS services (I am assuming you have a GSM phone, I don't know). Select Location Setting and then Get settings. Make sure it is turned on.
Then this part you said you did, but I will tell you my settings anyway. Go back to the all settings. Now go to system and then external gps. Then go to programs and select COM port 9. Under hardware it should be None and the baud rate is 4800. Then under access check the box to have manage gps enabled.
Now, when you use google maps, go to the settings in google maps and click gps settings. Change the option from let windows mobile manage my gps to manual and pick com 9 and 4800.
Then enable the gps and get a clear view of the sky and see if it works. It might take about 20 seconds for it to get some satellites the first time.
Did you notice there is a firmware update to enahnce gps fixes? Might be worth giving it a try
Thanks all.
there is not locaiton at setting, personal, phone , services.
this phone is vodafone branded, i think I need hard-SPL first to flash firmware.
sparobin said:
Thanks all.
there is not locaiton at setting, personal, phone , services.
this phone is vodafone branded, i think I need hard-SPL first to flash firmware.
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Hi,
I have been experiencing the same problem. Have read many posts. It normally happens when phone your phone displays H or 3G. For some reason the triangulation and the Gps stops working.
Try it when you have E or G showing on the phone it will work like a charm.
This is my second TP2 first one never had a problem and was vodafone branded as well. Will try and find a solution and will let you know. I have tried different radios though!
Hi
I had the same issue with my T mobile branded TP2. Sometimes (after houres) I had a fix and then it dropped again. I discovered that when you switch WIFI off, it all works like charm. WIFI somehow jams the GPS receiver.
Same Issue
I have the Sprint Touch Pro2 and have tried every patch available, several registry edits, different settings and quick GPS settings to get my GPS running properly. Just before my 30 day return/refund period had almost lapsed I decided to exchange my device. Sprint tried to talk me into some drawn out process of dealing with advanced tech support and starting a ticket on the issue which would have gone way beyond my 30 day period to exchange the phone. To make a short story long, exchanging the phone couldn't have been more convenient and upon setting up Quick GPS and trying out the installed Live Search application, my phone found 9 satelites within seconds. I guess it was the device. Just a cautionary tale that if you think you've tried everything to get your GPS working, there's no harm in getting another Touch Pro2.

Using GPS with Google Maps

I've been using the on-board GPS with Google Maps, which has worked well, but I find that I must run QuickGPS before GM will lock-in on any satellites. It will work fine during a given session, then the next day or if I change my location it will require me to run QGPS again. Is there an easier way than to run QGPS every time I want to use the GPS? Would it help to buy GPS software like iGuidance?
This is a VZW (CDMA) TP2 with the stock WM 6.1 ROM.
GM does take a while to lock the satellites. I have just gotten used to the wait. Hopefully they will look into this in future updates. GM on my Blackberry works great and locks pretty quickly.
I use GPS with maps and I get a quick fix easily.
iclick said:
I've been using the on-board GPS with Google Maps, which has worked well, but I find that I must run QuickGPS before GM will lock-in on any satellites. It will work fine during a given session, then the next day or if I change my location it will require me to run QGPS again. Is there an easier way than to run QGPS every time I want to use the GPS? Would it help to buy GPS software like iGuidance?
This is a VZW (CDMA) TP2 with the stock WM 6.1 ROM.
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Hello "iclick",
i have the same problem with my MDA Vario Pro 2 (HTC Touch Pro 2) with Windows Mobile 6.1. I would like to update to Windows Mobile 6.5 but i found the HTC GPS Tool. Now i can use my Navigon 7 and Google maps with GPS in any minutes .
Screenshots from the older Version vom HTC GPS Tool found her.
"Open Port." Press that. Then press Menu > Satellite. This will now show you satellites near you (red). When they turn green (it might take a while), you know you are attracting a satellite. Now, without closing HTC GPS Tool, open Google Maps and hit Menu > Use GPS. It should now get your location.
Nützliche Links:
Hotfix zur Verbesserung der internen GPS-Leistung im HTC Touch Pro2
nur für ROM-Versionen frührer als 1.21.000.0.
HTC - Support - HTC Touch Pro2 - Software-Herunterladung
Software-Update für das T-Mobile MDA Vario V Version 6.5
T-Mobile MDA Vario V
Windows Mobile 6.5 für T-Mobile MDA Vario V - teltarif.de News
I have noticed that GM runs on my TP2 flawlessly until I run iGO8. After this, GM can not even find a GPS hardware. The only solution I found is to cycle the power (soft reset).
jmmmmm said:
GM does take a while to lock the satellites. I have just gotten used to the wait. Hopefully they will look into this in future updates. GM on my Blackberry works great and locks pretty quickly.
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Sometimes I'll be on the road and it will not lock in any satellites unless I run QuickGPS first, even after waiting 10 minutes or more. If I don't use GM for a few days it will also not lock-in, although QGPS always revives it. Doesn't QGPS automatically download when you use ActiveSync if it is set to do so? Mine is set this way, but I don't understand why QGPS needs internet access from ActiveSync or wifi to work.
I confess I don't understand QGPS at all and can't find much info on it. Why does it need to be run at all, and why can't a program like GM do the same thing? I'm accustomed to GPS units that lock-in on their own.
ksmm said:
I have noticed that GM runs on my TP2 flawlessly until I run iGO8. After this, GM can not even find a GPS hardware. The only solution I found is to cycle the power (soft reset).
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Wouldn't iGo8 make GM unnecessary? I wouldn't mind trying iGo8 if it would eliminate the QGPS step every time I want to use the GPS.
iclick said:
Wouldn't iGo8 make GM unnecessary? I wouldn't mind trying iGo8 if it would eliminate the QGPS step every time I want to use the GPS.
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Sure, iGO8 is a great navigation tool however sometimes GM is also welcome when sightseeing or planning a trip as you can see terrain as it is.
Regarding QGPS - there is no need to refresh ephemeredes database each time you run GPS related software.
The database is valid for a week so I programmed QGPS to refresh it automatically when it expires and it works fine for me for months - I use iGO8 on daily basis (driving >30000 miles a year) and never observed any severe issues with a fix time (it ranges from few seconds to 1min max).
I never have a problem with Google Maps on my Tilt 2, and I use a mix of TomTom, iGO8, GCzII, and other GPS related programs.
I do use GPSToday so it keeps the GPS pretty well primed, but it doesn't matter it takes the same amount of time for the GPS to warm up regardless of what application is using it. If an application gives up and closes the GPS it could take longer because then you have to reopen it and it starts over, GPSTest runs forever.
I never run QuickGPS anymore, it does it entirely on its own. Every time I look it's up to date so I don't bother to look anymore.

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