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T-Mobile Dash Owner and loving it!... But..

1)No flash for the camera.
2)T-Mobile has decided not to use the Joggr application.. instead the touch strip only controls volume. Any ideas on how to enable the Joggr?
Thanks in advance!

I'm probably getting a dash and an s620, hopefully I can extract the s620 joggr application and install it on the dash.
I'll let you know

I was under the impression that the T-Mobile version has different hardware, meaning they replaced the JOGGR strip. If that is the case it won't be as simple as installing an app.

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I was under the impression that the T-Mobile version has different hardware, meaning they replaced the JOGGR strip. If that is the case it won't be as simple as installing an app.
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I've heard different stories, seen pictures of it both ways. If it is the buttons (different hardware) obviously the app won't help.

I am just going to go with the S620, I am fairly certain that it still includes the JOGGR.

It's out already? I thought it wasn't due until October 16.

correct, it's not out until the 16th (T-mobile Dash). I think the s620 is out about the same time.

Well it wouldn't make very much sense for them to manufacture completely different components for the same device. I hope it is only a software mod. Either way.. the device is still pretty awesome. It a heck of a lot more stable than my MDA was.

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Well it wouldn't make very much sense for them to manufacture completely different components for the same device. I hope it is only a software mod. Either way.. the device is still pretty awesome. It a heck of a lot more stable than my MDA was.
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How'd you score one already? I destroyed my SDA, and I'm using a loaner MDA right now until the Dash comes out, but I can't stand it. This MDA is a piece of junk.

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I was under the impression that the T-Mobile version has different hardware, meaning they replaced the JOGGR strip. If that is the case it won't be as simple as installing an app.
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Someone over on another forum looked at a Dash and said it still has the touch-strip (joggr), hopefully!

the jogger is ther ebu
the jogger is certainly there but no application to control it, besides from what I ahve heard the jogger doesnt integrate properly into the OS

Bad news guys! After looking at some pics of the S620 with the joggr I can see that my Dash IS physically different. Check it out:
--Not the best pic.. had to use my webcam.. but the Dash only has 2 touch sensitive buttons on a black strip, so I had to use a blue light to get any kind of reflection. On the S620 its a silver touch strip with two buttons at the end.
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its still there
the jogger application needs to be extracted to make it work, it is there still

I'm not sure you get it, it's physically different hardware seth. There are only 2 touch sensitive areas on the volume strip, that does not respond to sliding actions at all, where the joggr has a slide strip and two buttons at the end. Regardless of the software differences, the volume strip would not work properly with joggr software. I wish it would, but I'm about 85% sure it wont work properly. If i could get better pictures I'd show you exactly what i mean.
Edit: Took a slightly better well-lit picture. Camera phones suck at macro-mode! (Too bad I sold my SE w800!)

a99tandem is right, from those pics it's physically different hardware. Man that sucks.....

there still touch sensitive and Im sure you can still use them problem is that there is no center mappings. try to get a hold of an extended Rom from an s620 you should be able to get it to function, even if its a bit gimped. it never worked right in the first place thats why they replaced it with a more usable mapping. if you really want it, see if you can get your hands on the strip from a stock s620 the connection to the mainboard is the same.

Do you know if BBConnect will run on this/is available. I really like it but need/want BBConnect

a99tandem said:
I'm not sure you get it, it's physically different hardware seth. There are only 2 touch sensitive areas on the volume strip, that does not respond to sliding actions at all, where the joggr has a slide strip and two buttons at the end. Regardless of the software differences, the volume strip would not work properly with joggr software. I wish it would, but I'm about 85% sure it wont work properly. If i could get better pictures I'd show you exactly what i mean.
Edit: Took a slightly better well-lit picture. Camera phones suck at macro-mode! (Too bad I sold my SE w800!)
Looks the same to me, from using the Dash, I can say it looks the same the only difference is the appearance of the 'Strip'.
When actually using the strip the end respond, not the middle. So in essence it's the same, just a different appearance.
Throw the joggr cab on it, and it'll more then likely run the same as the S620
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robdes said:
Do you know if BBConnect will run on this/is available. I really like it but need/want BBConnect
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I am in the same boat. I would love to upgrade to this and get rid of my e61, however having used the mda with bb connect it will probably not be the greatest experience.

I just got my Dash! I use to have a T-Mobile MDA so I do miss touch screen but the Dash is slick. And man is the screen brilliant. The screen just looks way smoother and crisper then what the MDA looked. So far I am loving the phone and I've only had it for about 20mins. =P

I ma happy once again

Switched to sprint this month after being on T-Mo for 8 years(MDA(Wizard), Tilt(on T-Mo)(Kaiser), G1) and 5 days ago found out devastating news - HTC touch Pro2 is coming to T-Mobile(i am currently on Sprint Diamons and Touch Pro but would love a bigger screen(even at the cost of a worse processor)). Well today i found out that HTC Rhodium is coming to sprint and apparently looks(is?) a lot like Touch Pro2 Happy once again!
Best video reviews: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qupbdHx5n-4&NR=1
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob79639k5V4&NR=1

as far as i know the rhodium is just a "alias" for touch pro 2 and that it is the same phone just like touch pro is equal to raphael or am i missing something? correct me if im wrong

Hojlind said:
as far as i know the rhodium is just a "alias" for touch pro 2 and that it is the same phone just like touch pro is equal to raphael or am i missing something? correct me if im wrong
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yup. correct

udgn will be banned soon for posting the same info on 4 places...
RESPECT THE RULES

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orb3000 said:
udgn will be banned soon for posting the same info on 4 places...
RESPECT THE RULES
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Did not knew about that.

pesok said:
Switched to sprint this month after being on T-Mo for 8 years(MDA(Wizard), Tilt(on T-Mo)(Kaiser), G1) and 5 days ago found out devastating news - HTC touch Pro2 is coming to T-Mobile(i am currently on Sprint Diamons and Touch Pro but would love a bigger screen(even at the cost of a worse processor)). Well today i found out that HTC Rhodium is coming to sprint and apparently looks(is?) a lot like Touch Pro2 Happy once again!
Best video reviews: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qupbdHx5n-4&NR=1
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob79639k5V4&NR=1
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Yeah, it doesn't really matter because all 4 major US carriers are getting the Touch Pro 2 (and/or their variants). SO... you are okay no matter who are with!

sino8r said:
Yeah, it doesn't really matter because all 4 major US carriers are getting the Touch Pro 2 (and/or their variants). SO... you are okay no matter who are with!
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Unless Verizon decides to gimp this phone again like they did with the Touch Pro.

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Unless Verizon decides to gimp this phone again like they did with the Touch Pro.
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Verizon's name is on the HTC spec. leak for the TP2 so you should be fine.
True they could scrap it but with the all other 3 big carriers getting it, I doubt they'd be that foolish...
htc doc with Verizon's name:
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sino8r said:
Yeah, it doesn't really matter because all 4 major US carriers are getting the Touch Pro 2 (and/or their variants). SO... you are okay no matter who are with!
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So where is it announced that T-Mobile US is getting the Touch Pro2? And when???

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So where is it announced that T-Mobile US is getting the Touch Pro2? And when???
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It was leaked not announced... look at the spreadsheet I posted. It says tmobile usa and verizon. sprint is also set to get one. and at&t. but the last two aren't on the spreadsheet but were leaked through other venues. Q3 is the release date for the USA.

Though I doubt it, I'm just hoping that the US carriers keep the front facing camera this time. I would love to have that for video conferencing. The phone is more than capable. Also, I slightly worried that the US carrier might gimp out on the Professional Speaker phone. Not that it's a major feature to me, but I'm looking forward to it none the less. Other than that I think we'll see it as is with maybe some varrying keyboard arrangements. Actually, I would be we will see some variance in the keyboard (Windows and OK keys please!!!!!!)

Unfortunately, I doubt ATT will get it any time soon. They were a way behind on the Fuze. Plus, from what i have heard and seen, they carry the WM phones for two years each. They Fuze has been out for less than 1, so they would not sell the fuze and pro2 at the same time.
I just can't decide if i should keep my tilt until then. .

tmo and att can keep der branded pieces of pie. i'll take muh unlocked tp2 now pleez sur.

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Unfortunately, I doubt ATT will get it any time soon. They were a way behind on the Fuze. Plus, from what i have heard and seen, they carry the WM phones for two years each. They Fuze has been out for less than 1, so they would not sell the fuze and pro2 at the same time.
I just can't decide if i should keep my tilt until then. .
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I don't think the Fuze and TP2 will appeal to the same people, honestly, and rumor has it ATT will get TP2 late this year. It's possible that they won't brand it as "Fuze 2", but leave the TP2 name intact (personally, I just hope they leave the keyboard intact), further distinguishing the two from each other. The fuze is already at $150 with 2yr on Amazon. By the time the TP2 comes out, I expect it will be lower. The Fuze can still make money for ATT as the more budget-minded business class device.
Users who are inclined more towards media are going to lean towards the TP2 for its larger, higher-res display. High end business users will also be wooed by the noise-cancelling conference-styled speakerphone.

we all hope that the keyboard will be intact. but theres a good chance that it wont. at&t has a notorious rep for messing up their phones hardware. i'm just gonna get an unlocked one as soon as i can be sure that it will work with at&t's 3G bands

poppinpengawen said:
we all hope that the keyboard will be intact. but theres a good chance that it wont. at&t has a notorious rep for messing up their phones hardware. i'm just gonna get an unlocked one as soon as i can be sure that it will work with at&t's 3G bands
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Me too. Think ive finally decided to get the TP2 over the HD cause of more features. (ill have to deal with out the 3.5 jack tho :| )

Lyian said:
Me too. Think ive finally decided to get the TP2 over the HD cause of more features. (ill have to deal with out the 3.5 jack tho :| )
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and the touch HD doesn't support the U.S. 3G bands anyway since it was never officially offered in the States

BREAKING NEWS: AT&T Versions of Rhodium & Topaz Confirmed!!!

According to Engadget Mobile, AT&T will have its own versions of the Touch Pro2 and Diamond2. Some old, leaked documents indicate that these devices will come to AT&T (soon!):
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This is a leaked, most likely internal, document that summarizes its features, specs, selling points, etc. Unfortunately, as expected, AT&T butchered the keyboard from the original offset keyboard, which is a huge selling point for this device. Head on over to Engadget to read the full story. See the photographs here. Notice the "WM 7.X refresh awarded with Sept 09 launch date", it seems that this device will be upgradeable to WM7.x, although I doubt it will come in September, considering the amount of delay they've had with WM7 so far. And although it might be the proximity sensor, there also appears to be a camera on the front of the device.
One point that the article makes is that the "Fortress" will most likely NOT be released on the 25th of May according to the documents, but will probably be released later, because these documents are old and most likely outdated in terms of ETA to the network. 'Tis a very exciting day for AT&T subscribers everywhere!
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PS: If this is old news, or has been posted already, please feel free to take this post down, Mods. Thanks.

I'm an ATT man, and it looks like I'll be shopping for something unlocked.

I just saw this on a twitter post from pocketnow.com and it really made my day!! I don't know if I'm digging the red keyboard. and the offset keyboard is really completely gone huh..that was a major selling point for me. but it's ok I guess. I'm still gonna get the phone.
so it'll get the 6.5 upgrade AND the 7.x upgrade when it comes out?? sorry if it's a common sense question I just wanna make sure.

Probably same here, but it's still big news for a lot of people.
Besides, since this supports AT&T's networks, it most likely means that there will be an AT&T compatible unlocked version from HTC, which I had been doubting would come.
@poppinpengawen: Nobody really knows for sure when, but the most likely answer, according to this, is yes. Besides, even if not, that's practically the reason why cooked ROMs were made.
Dave

haha yea, you make a good point. I'm sure that the cooked roms will end up being better than the actual upgrades offered thru AT&T/HTC. but at least we know that it'll be upgradeable to the new versions of WM, even without a cooked ROM [:

I knew ATT would mess up the phone, but never thought theyd mess it up THAT badly. I'm sticking with getting an unlocked, offset keyboard version.. that one looks horrible.
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Whatever, Id rather have a GSM F'd up Touch Pro2 than some jank CDMA Touch Pro that I cant use overseas.
Honestly, I dont care that AT&T changed the keyboard, because unlike Verizon, they actually dont physically weaken their phones. That plus GSM makes AT&T the best US carrier.

Why unlocked?

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Why unlocked?
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because of the keyboard choice

hmmm I'd wanna get an unlocked one too as long as it supports the AT&T 3G bands. but I think I'm just gonna stick with the AT&T subsidized version. gotta save money I guess.. /:

uhh.... Why have the Y and the Z key changed places?
Also, the keyboard doesn't look so good compared to the unlocked version.

Very interesting point, I hadn't noticed that before. A little Wikipedia-ing led me to this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ. It explains that this keyboard configuration is used in Central, Eastern, and German speaking parts of europe. I'm not entirely sure what this means, but it's really weird, that's for sure.
Dave

http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=7454
the post talks about the switching too. the device pictured isn't even branded for AT&T, so it could be any other HTC device. maybe the keyboard won't be as bad then huh?

No, the keyboard will probably be worse than this if these aren't real. You'll probably have to crank some crank on the side of the phone 100 times before you can use it, or the letters will spontaniously re-arrange themselves randomly every 10 minutes. AT&T always, ALWAYS, ruins the keyboards.
Dave

I hope its before july
I really hope it come out soooner than later, no later than the end june. Just watch it will be in the chistmas rush November Decenber.

poppinpengawen said:
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=7454
the post talks about the switching too. the device pictured isn't even branded for AT&T, so it could be any other HTC device. maybe the keyboard won't be as bad then huh?
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I agree with Dave. If this isn't it, it will probably be worse.

Has any one seen anything from the FCC or, does a standard HTC GSM unit qualify the Att unit.

With CDMA and GSM support it looks like Sprint is still the carrier to beat for this device. I would add the keyboard configuration as another reason, but it's looking more and more like the keyboard won't look like this. Not only are there mistakes in the layout, but zooming in on it it doesn't even look like those are real keys. The whole thing looks like a Photoshop project to me.
I don't see in the specs that a front facing camera is included but is shown in the picture. This also makes me think this is not representative of what ATT will actually release.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2009/05/htc-fortress-slide.jpg
in that pic is states 5 row qwerty keyboard. maybe the pic of the phone is just a render and not final?

the ad also says its only 16mm thick, but the touch pro 2 is supposed to be 17.3 mm thick. that would be awesome if they made it thinner.

If The Touch Pro 2 Didnt Exist What Pda/Phone Would You Have And Why?

If you didnt have the touch pro 2, what phone would you have instead and why?
I think i would go along with a blackberry. way before i turned to windows mobile i was a hardcore blackberry user.

charlieb620 said:
If you didnt have the touch pro 2, what phone would you have instead and why?
I think i would go along with a blackberry. way before i turned to windows mobile i was a hardcore blackberry user.
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If I didn't have my TP2, the money I put towards that would be enough to complete my time machine, which I would have used to go back 4 months and stopped the past sirphunkee from losing his Wizard, so the present sirphunkee could still have it and be happy
In other words, I'd still have winmo...just on another device, and most likely HTC.

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I'd still have winmo...just on another device, and most likely HTC.
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Yeah, what he said.

I'd run into HTC with a gun and hold the CEO hostage until a phone with a slide out keyboard, big screen, and running windows mobile or i'll blow the building up....but shhhhh you didnt hear that from me ah ha ah ha ha ah ah........ Maybe a Pure or a unlocked HD2

If I didnt have my touch pro 2, I'd still be using Touch Pro 1.
I wish touch pro 3 would come out soon with 4.3 inch screen and a slideout keyboard..

Droid/Milestone or a Nexus One
The only reason I have a TP2 is because last May/June I wasn't overly impressed with the SatNav software available for Android and was, like a number of manufacturers, waiting for v2 to be released.
I believe the Open Source model for software is the way forwards. Opens development to over 6 billion people

If Rhodium didn´t exist...
I would be still using my beloved Universal for 2 reasons:
- Keyboard is a must for me
- Universal has the best keyboard!
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Other than Uni, Probably I would be dead by waiting for Tera to be available for upgrade

I would NOT do a BB - no sense in going backwards!
Might have to think about an Android just for the FUN of it - maybe the Hero or maybe, maybe the Nexus (after they fix some of the "issues").
But for real work, probably have to find a WinMo - the John Deere of OS

sirphunkee said:
If I didn't have my TP2, the money I put towards that would be enough to complete my time machine, which I would have used to go back 4 months and stopped the past sirphunkee from losing his Wizard, so the present sirphunkee could still have it and be happy
In other words, I'd still have winmo...just on another device, and most likely HTC.
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Same but I would still have the Kaiser.

Kaiser. Definately.

Kaiser, or maybe Raphael, and would be eagerly awaiting HTC's next WinMo QWERTY slider.

if the touch pro 2 didnt come out id prolly still be on my original touch pro. if i had my choice though id prolly have the hd2. with the larger screen i realized i may not need the hardware keyboard as much. though if theres any plus to the tp2 it would be the keyboard. some times i wish i had the hd2 to i could go around smacking iphone users with it.

if i..
didnt have the TP2 i would most likely have the original TP. i wouldnt mind getting the hero or a HD2. The HD2 has a big nice juicy screen !!

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Kaiser, or maybe Raphael, and would be eagerly awaiting HTC's next WinMo QWERTY slider.
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Same here, but with my probably now dead 8525. That thing had maybe a month left before the self destruct sequence completed. In that case whichever HTC slider I could ebay for cheapest until the next one came out

HANDS DOWN...I'd find a way to revive my Wiz!!
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If I didn't have my TP2, the money I put towards that would be enough to complete my time machine, which I would have used to go back 4 months and stopped the past sirphunkee from losing his Wizard, so the present sirphunkee could still have it and be happy
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I'd second that!! My Wizard was THE BEST, and I miss it...a moment of silence please to honor and remember my beloved Wizard.
I really think that HTC broke the mold on that device...everything since then, like the Wing for instance, was just a joke until the Rhodium came along.
My gut told me to go with the TP2, but the Tmo guy managed to convince me to try the Cliq--HATED IT. Then he said try the Behold 2, HATED IT...so finally I said I want my WinMo back. He said that Droid was the next big thing, I said I wanted old faithful...and now I have my Rhodium and am as giddy as a tween girl at a Jonas concert!!

Touch Pro3

Just had a dinner with a friend of mine who is the main distributor for HTC in Europe, and he informed that they will receive the first shipment of Touch Pro3's this summer and they will be on sale in Europe third quarter of this year. This is my main contact for HTC devices and he arranges a Touch Pro2 for me 4 months before it was officially released...He told me that the device will be much smaller and thinner, and soon he will provide me with the evidence including the full specifications Do you guys think this would be something you would purchase or would you rather wait for the Windows Phone 7?

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Just had a dinner with a friend of mine who is the main distributor for HTC in Europe, and he informed that they will receive the first shipment of Touch Pro3's this summer and they will be on sale in Europe third quarter of this year. This is my main contact for HTC devices and he arranges a Touch Pro2 for me 4 months before it was officially released...He told me that the device will be much smaller and thinner, and soon he will provide me with the evidence including the full specifications Do you guys think this would be something you would purchase or would you rather wait for the Windows Phone 7?
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I'm not crazy about WP7, at least the initial release of info. They've killed everything that was great about WinMo and opted for the locked-down, iPhone-like, walled garden approach. I'd love a TP3 with WM6.5.3, more RAM, and a Snapdragon processor...and US 3G bands.

That kind of processor does sound pretty sweet. And the capacitive touch screen. But no hardware keyboard... I don't know what I'd do without it, but thats just me.

LocDogg said:
Just had a dinner with a friend of mine who is the main distributor for HTC in Europe, and he informed that they will receive the first shipment of Touch Pro3's this summer and they will be on sale in Europe third quarter of this year. This is my main contact for HTC devices and he arranges a Touch Pro2 for me 4 months before it was officially released...He told me that the device will be much smaller and thinner, and soon he will provide me with the evidence including the full specifications Do you guys think this would be something you would purchase or would you rather wait for the Windows Phone 7?
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Definately but it would have to have the hard keyboard, otherwise it wouldn't be a touch pro would it?!
totally agree with dwboston ...I'm with 6.5.# with better specs Not sold on windows 7 at all so far.

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Definately but it would have to have the hard keyboard, otherwise it wouldn't be a touch pro would it?!
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It would be a Touch or HD...The main reason I would buy TP would be because of the hard keyboard...

I'll wait for the first Windows 7 Phone that includes a decent keyboard. Hopefully HTC, but would consider SonyEricsson as well.

I won't be touching a Windows phone ever again after this.
TP2 was a major disappointment for me because of OS, underpowered processor, and (nit picky) the fact that Telus (Canada) would release the version that does not work on their HSPA network.
I'll be swapping to Palm / webOS -- ideally the newer model that will be launched around the same time with a larger display.

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I think it would depend on what those specs are... and have a hw-keyboard, of course. I wouldn't buy if all I knew was the name "TP3".

Seriously doubt if I'll be having anything WM again unless something spectacular happens. I like the TP2 hardware but WM really disappoints. I read somewhere that the HD2 is a wonderful piece of hardware crippled by it's software and that's how I feel about the TP2.
Android for me next I think

theres no pictures or specs or anything of the touch pro 3. theres no reason we really need wm7, it doesnt seem to bring much besides a new interface. ill still have my touch pro 2. and if i still have it while the current version of windows mobile dies, i hope android will be as close to 100% running on it as possible. i hope i dont get pushed into buying an iphone.

I would go for HD2+keyboard as TP3..thats my simple & easiest solution for HTC..

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I would go for HD2+keyboard as TP3..thats my simple & easiest solution for HTC..
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Same here. Actually that would be my only replacement for my tp2.

windows phone 7 4 me

The only negs have found with TP2 is
1. Weight ... but it gives a solid feel
2. Faster processor
3. The zoom bar is quite useless - either make screen bigger/create a 'dpad'/make device smaller (not screen)
Have installed ZoomBarPlus today so will see if use the zoom bar more
Other than that very happy with TP2 ...nothing else on maket that would even consider at the moment

i don't see how the tp3 would be the 'upgrade' from tp2, or even tp1 if it's the htc tera as rumoured and specs are indeed as leaked
in fact, it seems like a downgrade and a complete disgrace to the 'touch pro' line (although it only consists of 2 phones, 4 if u include the tytn and tytn 2)
wqvga and a 600mhz qualcomm cpu which STILL doesn't have proper drivers? oh c'mon HTC. our patience is running out

Isn't this old news? Also HTC Thropy is cming this summer. The Debug ROMS are already out on the web....

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Isn't this old news? Also HTC Thropy is cming this summer. The Debug ROMS are already out on the web....
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That's Trophy, I assume...

Only if the TP3 has a processor on crack
I gotta agree that unless the physical specs are much better...such as a processor on steroids, I am quite happy with my TP2.
I like the solid feel, I absolutely LOVE the physical keyboard...and I am perfectly happy with 6.1 as it is super stable (even though 6.5 is prettier). My only complaint is the processor...I want a processor on crack!! Give me that while keeping all the faboo things about the TP2 and I may consider getting a TP3...otherwise, no way!!
As for WinMo7...not impressed with the info out there about it...sounds like a step backwards!!

Tera
I don´t think we will see any Touch Pro 3 in 2010, perhaps in 2011...
As for Tera, I don´t think it´s an upgrade for Rhodium
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