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HTC Kaiser P4550

TAKE A LOOK AT THIS:
http://www.elite-electronix.com/product_info.php?products_id=1015
damn and i just got my second tytn

we know for it long time ago
but ""RAM capacity: 64 MB"" ???

will it be on T-Mo US?
A friend of mine said there's some upgrade to the mda coming on T-mo and it's in blue. I wonder if this will be the device. I'm on T-mo USA and get great service, but Cingular gets the better devices. I can't switch to cingular because T-mo is the only one that gets any service in my apartment...note even cingular, which is also gsm.

waynew73 said:
A friend of mine said there's some upgrade to the mda coming on T-mo and it's in blue. I wonder if this will be the device. I'm on T-mo USA and get great service, but Cingular gets the better devices. I can't switch to cingular because T-mo is the only one that gets any service in my apartment...note even cingular, which is also gsm.
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t-mobile is getting the herald.

jackieboy said:
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS:
http://www.elite-electronix.com/product_info.php?products_id=1015
damn and i just got my second tytn
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I'm sure this phone has Sirf III GPS too, but it didn't say that on the linked page. Actually considering that the Hermes has been out, I think this is a bit of a disappointing upgrade...
Same RAM, same QVGA screen, slightly better cam (but HTC cams are crap anyway), got WM6 on hermes already... YAWN!

yep, nothing really to upgrade for... still keeping an eye out for a new device though, none have really caught my eye. If i don't find anything soon, a treo 750 could be the winner.

mmm_ok said:
I'm sure this phone has Sirf III GPS too, but it didn't say that on the linked page. Actually considering that the Hermes has been out, I think this is a bit of a disappointing upgrade...
Same RAM, same QVGA screen, slightly better cam (but HTC cams are crap anyway), got WM6 on hermes already... YAWN!
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No SiRF III GPS, same "GPS One" which is built-In the Qualcomm 6275 co-processor in a simillar application as on the HTC Trinity.
At least this are the current plans and since launch is not that far from today (in R&D terms) it is fairly sure to belive this is not going to change.
More reading on GPS One and Qualcomm 6275 here:
http://www.cdmatech.com/products/gpsone.jsp

well,
im getting the imate Ultimate 7150 when it comes out.
it doesnt haven built in GPS (i use my globalsat anyway), but the other specs blow everything else out of the water.
ETA mid 2007.

I'm with you on the 7150 JJ, any expectation of porting black 6.5 onto it or do other phone manufacturers make it harder to flash than HTC?

Well I needed to hear reasons not to jump to the Kaiser and I got them. Honestly I like the Tytn's front and very smooth face buttons. The Kaiser's buttons looks like the Cingular 8525 which is too japanese looking for me. I prefer sleek european design personally. Also I wonder if theres a postive to having the GPS reciever un attached as it uses it own battery and saves us that power problem, in addition to having the latest Sirf Star chipset.
I work for OrigenAE and its funny but the Tytn reminds me of our S21T HT PC especially with the Aluminium accent although I wish the entire phone was one solid piece of Aluminium liek our cases. By the way any of you get electro staticly shocked when you touch youre Tytn? Happened to me twice and getin worried it may do damage. HA I have never goten shocked with my S21T case ever!
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T-mobile Wing
T-mobile is releasing a new device might call the wing aka HTC Atlas. Please check the link below for more information.
www.mymobile911.com

Looks very simmilar to the Kaiser but a 201mhz processor WTF? and the screen doesnt pivot up like the Kaiser either. I like the USB cover! but another part to wear off. Honestly the Tytn (not 8525) looks very smooth for years to come again not all plasticy and crap.

Now, my question... When the keyboard slides out, is the Hermes considered Left-handed, or Right? What about the Wing, or Kaiser for that matter? And why the difference??

I just heard about this today from my friend at cingular. he said the next ppc would be out mid summer. i like the screen tilt.

jasjamming said:
well,
im getting the imate Ultimate 7150 when it comes out.
it doesnt haven built in GPS (i use my globalsat anyway), but the other specs blow everything else out of the water.
ETA mid 2007.
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I am surprise no one is thinking about the HTC Advantage. I thought the Advantage specs were better then 7150. The only thing, there is no WM6 for it right now.

sonystyle said:
T-mobile is releasing a new device might call the wing aka HTC Atlas. Please check the link below for more information.
www.mymobile911.com
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There is nothing special about this device.

lpsi2000 said:
I am surprise no one is thinking about the HTC Advantage. I thought the Advantage specs were better then 7150. The only thing, there is no WM6 for it right now.
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yes it has better specs but its a monster of a device...

walshieau said:
yes it has better specs but its a monster of a device...
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Agreed, but I was not sure it was that much bigger than the 7150. I have my eyes on the 7150 as well. I guess I better look closer

I'll take your TyTN's
If you want to jump ship to the Kaiser. I've looked over the specs, and besides being a bit thinner, and the fancy flip, no diff. We're getting WM 6 for TyTN (but still will run black, need something to load on it when I sell on eBay).
Anyone looking at the Advantage may see a dis-Advantage in the size and weight. (pun intended, sorry). For me, the TyTN keyboard makes it the ideal device.
I don't think they have made the device that I'm actually going to fall in love with yet, but the TyTN comes real close.
Hermes bigot and proud of it.

sonystyle said:
T-mobile is releasing a new device might call the wing aka HTC Atlas. Please check the link below for more information.
www.mymobile911.com
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jackieboy said:
Looks very simmilar to the Kaiser but a 201mhz processor WTF? and the screen doesnt pivot up like the Kaiser either. I like the USB cover! but another part to wear off. Honestly the Tytn (not 8525) looks very smooth for years to come again not all plasticy and crap.
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As stated in my post on the first page of this thread the wing is the herald not the Kaiser....

Bright White Screen of Death?

My new replacement Dash, less than a month old, has a blank white screen. (See attached) The phone otherwise works perfectly, and is fully functional when the screen is echoed to the desktop with My Mobiler. (also attached).
I have been running Kavana's 80314 overclocked happily for 5 or 6 days now, and everything was functional, fast and stable. After just using it for a call, I pulled it back out of my pocket and found the screeen blanked-for-good. Any ideas?
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Have you tried reflashing it ? This was an issue with an older Kavana ROM.

No, but I will. Back in a minute or two.

I have re-flashed with 80314, 80318, and the Kavana/Ricky; no easy task with no screen! Problem continues consistently.
so: the screen stays white through
soft reset
hard reset
sprite restore
attempts at entering bootloader mode
entire process of ROM flash.
Anyone have more ideas, or links to other threads on a fix?
If a ROM flash is going to cause bricking days after the fact, I can't recommend it, to say the least.
However, I may have an insight into the common 270 error. Anytime I allowed autolock.exe to lock the keys, the ROMs would appear to be corrupted. Will post on that thread.

Here is your answer!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378906

T-Mobile Dash Hospital
Be thankful your phone isn't injured like mine. After flashing to Kavana's latest ROM, installing my programs, receiving my 8GB SDHC card, and watching a few movies stored on that card, I dropped my phone (on a soft carpet) and screwed up the LCD. You would think that after surving 10 or so concrete and hard surface hits, that carpet would be no opponent. I guess I should edit my signature.
Maybe now I have an excuse to get the AT&T Tilt.......

curtislanham said:
Be thankful your phone isn't injured like mine. After flashing to Kavana's latest ROM, installing my programs, receiving my 8GB SDHC card, and watching a few movies stored on that card, I dropped my phone (on a soft carpet) and screwed up the LCD. You would think that after surving 10 or so concrete and hard surface hits, that carpet would be no opponent. I guess I should edit my signature.
Maybe now I have an excuse to get the AT&T Tilt.......
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Wanna sell me the card?
Ebay look for a screen...or sell the phone for parts

Sorry Mikey but the Tilt has a MicroSD slot I am still debating whether to part it out or replace the screen and use it as a backup phone. I sure would miss it. Thanks to this community I have come to love my Dash!

sledwrecker said:
Here is your answer!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378906
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Unfortunately, if that is the problem, I still can't get it to stop. I've tried turning the JOGGR back on (which I normally have off), and fiddling with the lowlight options, as well as experimenting with the tasks and processes in Celetask. No luck there, either. Still white.
I am afraid to replace the unit and have the same thing happen again if I go with WM 6.1
So far, I'm limited to sticking my SIM in a beater T722i a friend loaned me. It hurts, oh, it hurts!

Wrap Up
T-Mobile has decided that the sim died, and took my phone with it, so they replaced both no charge (except shipping). Who am I to argue with that?

Same Problem...
Profezza said:
Unfortunately, if that is the problem, I still can't get it to stop. I've tried turning the JOGGR back on (which I normally have off), and fiddling with the lowlight options, as well as experimenting with the tasks and processes in Celetask. No luck there, either. Still white.
I am afraid to replace the unit and have the same thing happen again if I go with WM 6.1
So far, I'm limited to sticking my SIM in a beater T722i a friend loaned me. It hurts, oh, it hurts!
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Ihas a cracked screen...ordered onefrom Ebay - changed it ... now it is all white...phone is still working but only a white screen ?
Any Advise will be highly appreciated ....

tolgac said:
Ihas a cracked screen...ordered onefrom Ebay - changed it ... now it is all white...phone is still working but only a white screen ?
Any Advise will be highly appreciated ....
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Did you check to make sure that the connectors are all correct, try to reopen it and check it out... if ask for an exchange from the ebay seller. I believe that there is a policy and especially if you paid with paypal try going through there and say the item is defective.

BREAKING NEWS: AT&T Versions of Rhodium & Topaz Confirmed!!!

According to Engadget Mobile, AT&T will have its own versions of the Touch Pro2 and Diamond2. Some old, leaked documents indicate that these devices will come to AT&T (soon!):
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This is a leaked, most likely internal, document that summarizes its features, specs, selling points, etc. Unfortunately, as expected, AT&T butchered the keyboard from the original offset keyboard, which is a huge selling point for this device. Head on over to Engadget to read the full story. See the photographs here. Notice the "WM 7.X refresh awarded with Sept 09 launch date", it seems that this device will be upgradeable to WM7.x, although I doubt it will come in September, considering the amount of delay they've had with WM7 so far. And although it might be the proximity sensor, there also appears to be a camera on the front of the device.
One point that the article makes is that the "Fortress" will most likely NOT be released on the 25th of May according to the documents, but will probably be released later, because these documents are old and most likely outdated in terms of ETA to the network. 'Tis a very exciting day for AT&T subscribers everywhere!
Dave
PS: If this is old news, or has been posted already, please feel free to take this post down, Mods. Thanks.

I'm an ATT man, and it looks like I'll be shopping for something unlocked.

I just saw this on a twitter post from pocketnow.com and it really made my day!! I don't know if I'm digging the red keyboard. and the offset keyboard is really completely gone huh..that was a major selling point for me. but it's ok I guess. I'm still gonna get the phone.
so it'll get the 6.5 upgrade AND the 7.x upgrade when it comes out?? sorry if it's a common sense question I just wanna make sure.

Probably same here, but it's still big news for a lot of people.
Besides, since this supports AT&T's networks, it most likely means that there will be an AT&T compatible unlocked version from HTC, which I had been doubting would come.
@poppinpengawen: Nobody really knows for sure when, but the most likely answer, according to this, is yes. Besides, even if not, that's practically the reason why cooked ROMs were made.
Dave

haha yea, you make a good point. I'm sure that the cooked roms will end up being better than the actual upgrades offered thru AT&T/HTC. but at least we know that it'll be upgradeable to the new versions of WM, even without a cooked ROM [:

I knew ATT would mess up the phone, but never thought theyd mess it up THAT badly. I'm sticking with getting an unlocked, offset keyboard version.. that one looks horrible.
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Whatever, Id rather have a GSM F'd up Touch Pro2 than some jank CDMA Touch Pro that I cant use overseas.
Honestly, I dont care that AT&T changed the keyboard, because unlike Verizon, they actually dont physically weaken their phones. That plus GSM makes AT&T the best US carrier.

Why unlocked?

DrawnToScale said:
Why unlocked?
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because of the keyboard choice

hmmm I'd wanna get an unlocked one too as long as it supports the AT&T 3G bands. but I think I'm just gonna stick with the AT&T subsidized version. gotta save money I guess.. /:

uhh.... Why have the Y and the Z key changed places?
Also, the keyboard doesn't look so good compared to the unlocked version.

Very interesting point, I hadn't noticed that before. A little Wikipedia-ing led me to this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ. It explains that this keyboard configuration is used in Central, Eastern, and German speaking parts of europe. I'm not entirely sure what this means, but it's really weird, that's for sure.
Dave

http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=7454
the post talks about the switching too. the device pictured isn't even branded for AT&T, so it could be any other HTC device. maybe the keyboard won't be as bad then huh?

No, the keyboard will probably be worse than this if these aren't real. You'll probably have to crank some crank on the side of the phone 100 times before you can use it, or the letters will spontaniously re-arrange themselves randomly every 10 minutes. AT&T always, ALWAYS, ruins the keyboards.
Dave

I hope its before july
I really hope it come out soooner than later, no later than the end june. Just watch it will be in the chistmas rush November Decenber.

poppinpengawen said:
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=7454
the post talks about the switching too. the device pictured isn't even branded for AT&T, so it could be any other HTC device. maybe the keyboard won't be as bad then huh?
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I agree with Dave. If this isn't it, it will probably be worse.

Has any one seen anything from the FCC or, does a standard HTC GSM unit qualify the Att unit.

With CDMA and GSM support it looks like Sprint is still the carrier to beat for this device. I would add the keyboard configuration as another reason, but it's looking more and more like the keyboard won't look like this. Not only are there mistakes in the layout, but zooming in on it it doesn't even look like those are real keys. The whole thing looks like a Photoshop project to me.
I don't see in the specs that a front facing camera is included but is shown in the picture. This also makes me think this is not representative of what ATT will actually release.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2009/05/htc-fortress-slide.jpg
in that pic is states 5 row qwerty keyboard. maybe the pic of the phone is just a render and not final?

the ad also says its only 16mm thick, but the touch pro 2 is supposed to be 17.3 mm thick. that would be awesome if they made it thinner.

T-Mobile Touch Pro2 In Hand Pics **LOTS OF PICS**

I was able to get my hands on a USA T-MO Touch Pro2. This thing is pretty sweet! TouchFlo runs smoother than any TouchFlo I've installed on my HD.
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This one is worth waiting for, I like phones with a keyboard. I am toying with picking up a Dash 3G before the TP2 hits, just to play with.
Is this still dropping on August 12th? Any in stores yet?

Lucky I can't wait to get this on sprint!!

LeahW said:
This one is worth waiting for, I like phones with a keyboard. I am toying with picking up a Dash 3G before the TP2 hits, just to play with.
Is this still dropping on August 12th? Any in stores yet?
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I already picked up a Dash myself anxiously awaiting TP2 Day!!!!

Thanks for the pics!!

Nice pics, do you know what day it's coming now. hopefully within the next couple of weeks since it looks like it's all ready to do. Any word on pricing?

it doesn't look like the proximity sensor's still there, did they nix that too? That'll really hurt battery life if they took it away..

is it me or does it have a slot loading microsd card in the side?
in my unbranded tp2 i need to remove the battery cover to replace the sd card.
could you post a pic of the back of the device please.

faria said:
is it me or does it have a slot loading microsd card in the side?
in my unbranded tp2 i need to remove the battery cover to replace the sd card.
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ITs not just you. I Dont know how often you guys swap SD cards, but once i put mine in their it pretty much stays there. Something that small i dont want to damage by pulling it in and out all the time, so for me, i prefer the stock under the battery cover one. Plus the more things are exposed like that, the better chance of it being lost or getting dirt or some crap in it. lol.
Still not a fan of the raised buttons tho, and the keyboard is weird. If anything, the Fn key acts more like an Alt than a Ctrl so dono why those are swapped, but i like the Fn key *shrug* I also like the chrome (fake as it is lol)
Oh well, to each their own, T-Mo users seem to like it, and it is still a Touch Pro 2, so thats fantastic.

Lyian said:
ITs not just you. I Dont know how often you guys swap SD cards, but once i put mine in their it pretty much stays there. Something that small i dont want to damage by pulling it in and out all the time, so for me, i prefer the stock under the battery cover one. Plus the more things are exposed like that, the better chance of it being lost or getting dirt or some crap in it. lol.
Still not a fan of the raised buttons tho, and the keyboard is weird. If anything, the Fn key acts more like an Alt than a Ctrl so dono why those are swapped, but i like the Fn key *shrug* I also like the chrome (fake as it is lol)
Oh well, to each their own, T-Mo users seem to like it, and it is still a Touch Pro 2, so thats fantastic.
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i do swap my sd alot because i maintain several others htc devices .
as for the dust i belive the tmobile 1 as a ruber cover.
dont get me wrong i prefer mine, but it looks like we gonna have quite a few diferent tp2 ,one being a tp2 with a 3.5 audio jack that will be released on some carrier in america.

ugh... I need this in my life.
A freaking SAP
first US carrier in NY to get it automatically earns my business for the next X years

For the first time in my life I wish I was on T-mobile.
ATT needs to hop on the bandwagon...
I need one of these beautiful machines FAST...

What's with the new people tab? Could you post more pictures of that?

woeds said:
What's with the new people tab? Could you post more pictures of that?
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It's a MyFaves Tab that can be disabled.

The sooner tmob get's it, the better! I'm more than ready for this bad boy!

Chevy-n-Yamaha said:
it doesn't look like the proximity sensor's still there, did they nix that too? That'll really hurt battery life if they took it away..
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anybody?? lakers8833, Can you shed some light on the subject??

aNiMeMaN14 said:
ugh... I need this in my life.
automatically earns my business for the next X years
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... "where X is the number of years the phone remains functional" haha.. sorry.. Couldnt resist a MTG joke

as for the SD card slot, it could just be a change in the cover, meaning you could buy a Tmo cover and get that added bit of functionality if you really needed it.

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What are this 2 models comparing?
Tmob version versus HTC version? HD??
It got my atention the buttons at the bottom...

*head explodes*

Bottom Button Light Alignment

So, I just traded my Galaxy SII for a One X on Craigslist. He told me of this problem before, but hey, I didn't care. The phone functions perfectly fine. The one issue that I'm just annoyed at is the bottom button alignment. I don't know if this is common or not (I tried finding other posts but I didn't find any), but the lights behind the buttons are a bit to the bottom left. But when I press the buttons, they respond, the lights just... aren't behind it? Sorry, I don't have a great camera (used my Captivate) but I tried my best. It doesn't seem prominent, but it really is in the dark. Is there anything I can do to fix this? Or can I possibly send this to HTC (if I just tell them I bought it from AT&T, I don't know how they would figure out I didn't. I have the original box too)
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So, I just traded my Galaxy SII for a One X on Craigslist. He told me of this problem before, but hey, I didn't care. The phone functions perfectly fine. The one issue that I'm just annoyed at is the bottom button alignment. I don't know if this is common or not (I tried finding other posts but I didn't find any), but the lights behind the buttons are a bit to the bottom left. But when I press the buttons, they respond, the lights just... aren't behind it? Sorry, I don't have a great camera (used my Captivate) but I tried my best. It doesn't seem prominent, but it really is in the dark. Is there anything I can do to fix this? Or can I possibly send this to HTC (if I just tell them I bought it from AT&T, I don't know how they would figure out I didn't. I have the original box too)
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in my phone, lights are perfectly matched to buttons
well try factory reset once and if the issue is still there then you can talk to htc customer care and send it to them {if the phone is not rooted}

vivek_bhoj said:
in my phone, lights are perfectly matched to buttons
well try factory reset once and if the issue is still there then you can talk to htc customer care and send it to them {if the phone is not rooted}
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Here is my issue. I already called them and they told me that they could diagnose it and possibly fix it. If I don't want to have it fixed (due to a high price for the services) I am required to pay the $40. So basically, I'm screwed.

Looks to me like the LEDs behind those buttons somehow got shifted. Can’t imagine something like that passing quality control at HTC, perhaps the screen was replaced by the previous owner and whoever responsible did a shoddy job.
Look very closely at the very edge of the screen and the thin black strip surrounding the screen for tool marks. This is how you take off the screen of the One X, the process is likely to leave some marks at the pry points (especially if it was done poorly). If you can see marks, that is a very good indication that the screen was replaced. IMO there is nothing much you can do without taking it apart and re-aligning /replacing the LEDs.

PhoenixFx said:
Looks to me like the LEDs behind those buttons somehow got shifted. Can’t imagine something like that passing quality control at HTC, perhaps the screen was replaced by the previous owner and whoever responsible did a shoddy job.
Look very closely at the very edge of the screen and the thin black strip surrounding the screen for tool marks. This is how you take off the screen of the One X, the process is likely to leave some marks at the pry points (especially if it was done poorly). If you can see marks, that is a very good indication that the screen was replaced. IMO there is nothing much you can do without taking it apart and re-aligning /replacing the LEDs.
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Yep, I just looked and talked to the guy and he said he did open it once. I think I'm just going to leave it as is because the phone functions perfectly fine and I don't even use those buttons that much (I'll just stop them from lighting up with an App). I was also expecting a problem here and there seeing as the phone essentially cost me 160 off contract. Thanks for the help.