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T-Mobile Dash Owner and loving it!... But..

1)No flash for the camera.
2)T-Mobile has decided not to use the Joggr application.. instead the touch strip only controls volume. Any ideas on how to enable the Joggr?
Thanks in advance!

I'm probably getting a dash and an s620, hopefully I can extract the s620 joggr application and install it on the dash.
I'll let you know

I was under the impression that the T-Mobile version has different hardware, meaning they replaced the JOGGR strip. If that is the case it won't be as simple as installing an app.

InnerGeek said:
I was under the impression that the T-Mobile version has different hardware, meaning they replaced the JOGGR strip. If that is the case it won't be as simple as installing an app.
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I've heard different stories, seen pictures of it both ways. If it is the buttons (different hardware) obviously the app won't help.

I am just going to go with the S620, I am fairly certain that it still includes the JOGGR.

It's out already? I thought it wasn't due until October 16.

correct, it's not out until the 16th (T-mobile Dash). I think the s620 is out about the same time.

Well it wouldn't make very much sense for them to manufacture completely different components for the same device. I hope it is only a software mod. Either way.. the device is still pretty awesome. It a heck of a lot more stable than my MDA was.

a99tandem said:
Well it wouldn't make very much sense for them to manufacture completely different components for the same device. I hope it is only a software mod. Either way.. the device is still pretty awesome. It a heck of a lot more stable than my MDA was.
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How'd you score one already? I destroyed my SDA, and I'm using a loaner MDA right now until the Dash comes out, but I can't stand it. This MDA is a piece of junk.

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I was under the impression that the T-Mobile version has different hardware, meaning they replaced the JOGGR strip. If that is the case it won't be as simple as installing an app.
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Someone over on another forum looked at a Dash and said it still has the touch-strip (joggr), hopefully!

the jogger is ther ebu
the jogger is certainly there but no application to control it, besides from what I ahve heard the jogger doesnt integrate properly into the OS

Bad news guys! After looking at some pics of the S620 with the joggr I can see that my Dash IS physically different. Check it out:
--Not the best pic.. had to use my webcam.. but the Dash only has 2 touch sensitive buttons on a black strip, so I had to use a blue light to get any kind of reflection. On the S620 its a silver touch strip with two buttons at the end.
Dash
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its still there
the jogger application needs to be extracted to make it work, it is there still

I'm not sure you get it, it's physically different hardware seth. There are only 2 touch sensitive areas on the volume strip, that does not respond to sliding actions at all, where the joggr has a slide strip and two buttons at the end. Regardless of the software differences, the volume strip would not work properly with joggr software. I wish it would, but I'm about 85% sure it wont work properly. If i could get better pictures I'd show you exactly what i mean.
Edit: Took a slightly better well-lit picture. Camera phones suck at macro-mode! (Too bad I sold my SE w800!)

a99tandem is right, from those pics it's physically different hardware. Man that sucks.....

there still touch sensitive and Im sure you can still use them problem is that there is no center mappings. try to get a hold of an extended Rom from an s620 you should be able to get it to function, even if its a bit gimped. it never worked right in the first place thats why they replaced it with a more usable mapping. if you really want it, see if you can get your hands on the strip from a stock s620 the connection to the mainboard is the same.

Do you know if BBConnect will run on this/is available. I really like it but need/want BBConnect

a99tandem said:
I'm not sure you get it, it's physically different hardware seth. There are only 2 touch sensitive areas on the volume strip, that does not respond to sliding actions at all, where the joggr has a slide strip and two buttons at the end. Regardless of the software differences, the volume strip would not work properly with joggr software. I wish it would, but I'm about 85% sure it wont work properly. If i could get better pictures I'd show you exactly what i mean.
Edit: Took a slightly better well-lit picture. Camera phones suck at macro-mode! (Too bad I sold my SE w800!)
Looks the same to me, from using the Dash, I can say it looks the same the only difference is the appearance of the 'Strip'.
When actually using the strip the end respond, not the middle. So in essence it's the same, just a different appearance.
Throw the joggr cab on it, and it'll more then likely run the same as the S620
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robdes said:
Do you know if BBConnect will run on this/is available. I really like it but need/want BBConnect
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I am in the same boat. I would love to upgrade to this and get rid of my e61, however having used the mda with bb connect it will probably not be the greatest experience.

I just got my Dash! I use to have a T-Mobile MDA so I do miss touch screen but the Dash is slick. And man is the screen brilliant. The screen just looks way smoother and crisper then what the MDA looked. So far I am loving the phone and I've only had it for about 20mins. =P

BREAKING NEWS: AT&T Versions of Rhodium & Topaz Confirmed!!!

According to Engadget Mobile, AT&T will have its own versions of the Touch Pro2 and Diamond2. Some old, leaked documents indicate that these devices will come to AT&T (soon!):
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This is a leaked, most likely internal, document that summarizes its features, specs, selling points, etc. Unfortunately, as expected, AT&T butchered the keyboard from the original offset keyboard, which is a huge selling point for this device. Head on over to Engadget to read the full story. See the photographs here. Notice the "WM 7.X refresh awarded with Sept 09 launch date", it seems that this device will be upgradeable to WM7.x, although I doubt it will come in September, considering the amount of delay they've had with WM7 so far. And although it might be the proximity sensor, there also appears to be a camera on the front of the device.
One point that the article makes is that the "Fortress" will most likely NOT be released on the 25th of May according to the documents, but will probably be released later, because these documents are old and most likely outdated in terms of ETA to the network. 'Tis a very exciting day for AT&T subscribers everywhere!
Dave
PS: If this is old news, or has been posted already, please feel free to take this post down, Mods. Thanks.

I'm an ATT man, and it looks like I'll be shopping for something unlocked.

I just saw this on a twitter post from pocketnow.com and it really made my day!! I don't know if I'm digging the red keyboard. and the offset keyboard is really completely gone huh..that was a major selling point for me. but it's ok I guess. I'm still gonna get the phone.
so it'll get the 6.5 upgrade AND the 7.x upgrade when it comes out?? sorry if it's a common sense question I just wanna make sure.

Probably same here, but it's still big news for a lot of people.
Besides, since this supports AT&T's networks, it most likely means that there will be an AT&T compatible unlocked version from HTC, which I had been doubting would come.
@poppinpengawen: Nobody really knows for sure when, but the most likely answer, according to this, is yes. Besides, even if not, that's practically the reason why cooked ROMs were made.
Dave

haha yea, you make a good point. I'm sure that the cooked roms will end up being better than the actual upgrades offered thru AT&T/HTC. but at least we know that it'll be upgradeable to the new versions of WM, even without a cooked ROM [:

I knew ATT would mess up the phone, but never thought theyd mess it up THAT badly. I'm sticking with getting an unlocked, offset keyboard version.. that one looks horrible.
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Whatever, Id rather have a GSM F'd up Touch Pro2 than some jank CDMA Touch Pro that I cant use overseas.
Honestly, I dont care that AT&T changed the keyboard, because unlike Verizon, they actually dont physically weaken their phones. That plus GSM makes AT&T the best US carrier.

Why unlocked?

DrawnToScale said:
Why unlocked?
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because of the keyboard choice

hmmm I'd wanna get an unlocked one too as long as it supports the AT&T 3G bands. but I think I'm just gonna stick with the AT&T subsidized version. gotta save money I guess.. /:

uhh.... Why have the Y and the Z key changed places?
Also, the keyboard doesn't look so good compared to the unlocked version.

Very interesting point, I hadn't noticed that before. A little Wikipedia-ing led me to this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ. It explains that this keyboard configuration is used in Central, Eastern, and German speaking parts of europe. I'm not entirely sure what this means, but it's really weird, that's for sure.
Dave

http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=7454
the post talks about the switching too. the device pictured isn't even branded for AT&T, so it could be any other HTC device. maybe the keyboard won't be as bad then huh?

No, the keyboard will probably be worse than this if these aren't real. You'll probably have to crank some crank on the side of the phone 100 times before you can use it, or the letters will spontaniously re-arrange themselves randomly every 10 minutes. AT&T always, ALWAYS, ruins the keyboards.
Dave

I hope its before july
I really hope it come out soooner than later, no later than the end june. Just watch it will be in the chistmas rush November Decenber.

poppinpengawen said:
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=7454
the post talks about the switching too. the device pictured isn't even branded for AT&T, so it could be any other HTC device. maybe the keyboard won't be as bad then huh?
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I agree with Dave. If this isn't it, it will probably be worse.

Has any one seen anything from the FCC or, does a standard HTC GSM unit qualify the Att unit.

With CDMA and GSM support it looks like Sprint is still the carrier to beat for this device. I would add the keyboard configuration as another reason, but it's looking more and more like the keyboard won't look like this. Not only are there mistakes in the layout, but zooming in on it it doesn't even look like those are real keys. The whole thing looks like a Photoshop project to me.
I don't see in the specs that a front facing camera is included but is shown in the picture. This also makes me think this is not representative of what ATT will actually release.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2009/05/htc-fortress-slide.jpg
in that pic is states 5 row qwerty keyboard. maybe the pic of the phone is just a render and not final?

the ad also says its only 16mm thick, but the touch pro 2 is supposed to be 17.3 mm thick. that would be awesome if they made it thinner.

If The Touch Pro 2 Didnt Exist What Pda/Phone Would You Have And Why?

If you didnt have the touch pro 2, what phone would you have instead and why?
I think i would go along with a blackberry. way before i turned to windows mobile i was a hardcore blackberry user.

charlieb620 said:
If you didnt have the touch pro 2, what phone would you have instead and why?
I think i would go along with a blackberry. way before i turned to windows mobile i was a hardcore blackberry user.
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If I didn't have my TP2, the money I put towards that would be enough to complete my time machine, which I would have used to go back 4 months and stopped the past sirphunkee from losing his Wizard, so the present sirphunkee could still have it and be happy
In other words, I'd still have winmo...just on another device, and most likely HTC.

sirphunkee said:
I'd still have winmo...just on another device, and most likely HTC.
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Yeah, what he said.

I'd run into HTC with a gun and hold the CEO hostage until a phone with a slide out keyboard, big screen, and running windows mobile or i'll blow the building up....but shhhhh you didnt hear that from me ah ha ah ha ha ah ah........ Maybe a Pure or a unlocked HD2

If I didnt have my touch pro 2, I'd still be using Touch Pro 1.
I wish touch pro 3 would come out soon with 4.3 inch screen and a slideout keyboard..

Droid/Milestone or a Nexus One
The only reason I have a TP2 is because last May/June I wasn't overly impressed with the SatNav software available for Android and was, like a number of manufacturers, waiting for v2 to be released.
I believe the Open Source model for software is the way forwards. Opens development to over 6 billion people

If Rhodium didn´t exist...
I would be still using my beloved Universal for 2 reasons:
- Keyboard is a must for me
- Universal has the best keyboard!
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Other than Uni, Probably I would be dead by waiting for Tera to be available for upgrade

I would NOT do a BB - no sense in going backwards!
Might have to think about an Android just for the FUN of it - maybe the Hero or maybe, maybe the Nexus (after they fix some of the "issues").
But for real work, probably have to find a WinMo - the John Deere of OS

sirphunkee said:
If I didn't have my TP2, the money I put towards that would be enough to complete my time machine, which I would have used to go back 4 months and stopped the past sirphunkee from losing his Wizard, so the present sirphunkee could still have it and be happy
In other words, I'd still have winmo...just on another device, and most likely HTC.
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Same but I would still have the Kaiser.

Kaiser. Definately.

Kaiser, or maybe Raphael, and would be eagerly awaiting HTC's next WinMo QWERTY slider.

if the touch pro 2 didnt come out id prolly still be on my original touch pro. if i had my choice though id prolly have the hd2. with the larger screen i realized i may not need the hardware keyboard as much. though if theres any plus to the tp2 it would be the keyboard. some times i wish i had the hd2 to i could go around smacking iphone users with it.

if i..
didnt have the TP2 i would most likely have the original TP. i wouldnt mind getting the hero or a HD2. The HD2 has a big nice juicy screen !!

UnusualSuspect said:
Kaiser, or maybe Raphael, and would be eagerly awaiting HTC's next WinMo QWERTY slider.
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Same here, but with my probably now dead 8525. That thing had maybe a month left before the self destruct sequence completed. In that case whichever HTC slider I could ebay for cheapest until the next one came out

HANDS DOWN...I'd find a way to revive my Wiz!!
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If I didn't have my TP2, the money I put towards that would be enough to complete my time machine, which I would have used to go back 4 months and stopped the past sirphunkee from losing his Wizard, so the present sirphunkee could still have it and be happy
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I'd second that!! My Wizard was THE BEST, and I miss it...a moment of silence please to honor and remember my beloved Wizard.
I really think that HTC broke the mold on that device...everything since then, like the Wing for instance, was just a joke until the Rhodium came along.
My gut told me to go with the TP2, but the Tmo guy managed to convince me to try the Cliq--HATED IT. Then he said try the Behold 2, HATED IT...so finally I said I want my WinMo back. He said that Droid was the next big thing, I said I wanted old faithful...and now I have my Rhodium and am as giddy as a tween girl at a Jonas concert!!

Nokia's First WM7 Device

Looks like Nokia's first Windows Phone has been leaked by the CEO no less. It looks a lot like the recently announced N9, but no word on what the internal specs are. It will have to blow the current generation of phones out of the water for me to give up the Super AMOLED screen on my Focus.

i didn't see any windows buttons. In the video he didn't actually turn it on.
Who knows

Full video can be found here:
http://www.technet.hu/telefon/20110624/exkluziv_video_elop_bemutatja_az_elso_windowsos_nokiat/

vetvito said:
i didn't see any windows buttons. In the video he didn't actually turn it on.
Who knows
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yeah the lack of front 3 buttons was what I was wondering about as well.

Hmm can't get the full video to load, but it's about time we get a peak of a Nokia WP7 phone. Can't wait!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1wC0pS_No
Here you go, enjoy

So does anyone know if this would work on Sprint if it had the same quadband CDMA radios as the meego version? Because I would buy this immediately, if that were the case.
PS - In the long version he turns it on, and another guy comes out and demoes it.

Thanks for the links.
Looking at this unreleased phone, and looking at the already released HTC sensation 4g. All I can say is, Microsoft is in deep ****.
Deep, deep, deep ****. SMFH.

Microsoft is in a very poor situation with regard to WP7, trying to push a new OS to a market which isn't exactly dying for one, needing hundreds of phones and friendly distribution, but the video doesn't make it any worse.

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nokia nb66

Why were they still recording when he asked everyone to switch off their camera?

Should be more coming as well.

but the here's my question....will it have a FF camera? that's the only thing I want in my next windows phone and well mango too

That's.... kinda ugly at first glance.
I don't particularly enjoy the Nx designs. Sad to see them sticking with it for wp7.
ALTHOUGH I do like the boxiness aspect. I think rounded edges are old school, boxiness is a good thing design-wise.

sure haven't said:
I think rounded edges are old school, boxiness is a good thing design-wise.
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Or, you could say that rounded phones are a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Pulling a square-edged, boxy phone out of my pocket can be a real pain, but a phone that has nice rounded corners is not a problem at all.
And personally, boxy = ugly to me.

RoboDad said:
Or, you could say that rounded phones are a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Pulling a square-edged, boxy phone out of my pocket can be a real pain, but a phone that has nice rounded corners is not a problem at all.
And personally, boxy = ugly to me.
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Hmm never thought of it that way. Would never have thought of that as I've never owned one without rounded edges.

sumdumdude said:
Looks like Nokia's first Windows Phone has been leaked by the CEO no less. It looks a lot like the recently announced N9, but no word on what the internal specs are. It will have to blow the current generation of phones out of the water for me to give up the Super AMOLED screen on my Focus.
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I like it. I like the N9 and think this model would make a good WP7 device.

vetvito said:
Thanks for the links.
Looking at this unreleased phone, and looking at the already released HTC sensation 4g. All I can say is, Microsoft is in deep ****.
Deep, deep, deep ****. SMFH.
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Yeah, the Sensation is aptly named. I would love to have one. But I can't see anything wrong with this WP7 Nokia device. Imagine it in some other colors.

SteveChou said:
nokia nb66
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Those on screen buttons are nasty looking, I can see myself now always accidentally hitting them trying to play a game or something. plz bring something else Nokia, because that is not what I want at all

havox22 said:
Those on screen buttons are nasty looking, I can see myself now always accidentally hitting them trying to play a game or something. plz bring something else Nokia, because that is not what I want at all
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Since they are on-screen buttons, they can be minimized or disappear altogether during a game or open app. This would completely eliminate the accidental press of these buttons.

[MOD][Possible Port]Silver Speaker Mod - Awaiting confirmation...

I would like to share a nice hardware mod from the Samsung Captivate Section, but unfortunately I DO NOT HAVE A GALAXY NEXUS. ALLEGEDLY IT WORKS, BUT AWAITING PROOF PICTURE.
Picture of my Captivate...
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SILVER SPEAKER MOD
WARNING: VERY DANGEROUS​
The story of the silver speaker mod: I was getting ready to go out one cold winter day in December, it was 6:30 in the evening. It was just starting to get dark. It was very quiet, aside from the furious wind whipping against the side of my house. Considering surfing with Mr. T was definitely out with these wind conditions, I sat down to reflash my phone to a new kernel. Holding a knife in one hand, as I am known to be quite the multi-tasker (Yeah, i can flash and eat, what now?) and my Captivate in the other, I accidentally knifed my phone. At first, I started to panic and soon began developing a sweat. Looking down; on the verge of a mental breakdown, I was expecting to see a possibly maimed Samsung Captivate, and little to my surprise, I immediately noticed a battle-wound. Hyperventilating, I quickly pondered on how I could handle this situation without diminishing the aesthetic appeal of the phone, and then the silver speaker mod was born.
Requirements:
1. A fingernail / knife / nail-file / any pointy/sharp object
HOW-TO:
Step 1: Scratch at it until it's silver. [Might take awhile, I had to scratch at it pretty vigorously.]
I don't know how nerdy the rest of the XDA community is, but I almost came to my knees in fear when I was performing this operation. I would recommend wearing goggles, gloves,(except for one finger, we need at LEAST one finger nail..) and possibly a bio suit. However, should you find the courage to stand strong and repetitively move your finger up and down, you will be rewarded..with....
Reminder: No steak is worth your phone being hurt over, no eating and flashing.​
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Thanks to geokhentix the originator of the mod for finding this out!
For one of the FUNNIEST reads ever, read the original thread! It takes a bit to get going then gets hilarious, then dies down... and gets funny again. Many people agree and have posted time and again, its well worth the time of reading.
So if anyone wants to try.... DO AT YOUR OWN RISK!
POST 3,300!!!!

Doing a b/u right now!

LOL thats the spirit!!!
forgot to mention.... backup highly recommended. nandroid and tibu. and back those backups to binary punch cards.....

Great idea but very bold and hard to find a volunteer! : D

you're new around here so ill let you in on a little secret..... lol... you dont know what we are willing to try just to be Speshul

no one willing to try?

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no one willing to try?
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I'm sure it would work, this happened from wear on my old eris. I could actually try it on that. But a part of the appeal of the nexus is the totally black face, no logo's or on screen buttons, so silver might look out of place.

i have 2 captivates... one with mod(and a cracked screen) and one without...
easy to tell them appart at quick glance.

but one the most sexy things about the GNEX looks is how it looks like one black brick when the screen is turned off.

Lol it works but I can't take pictures without my phone, so It's impossible for me to take pictures of my phone lolol looks great thanks.

Frostbyrne said:
Lol it works but I can't take pictures without my phone, so It's impossible for me to take pictures of my phone lolol looks great thanks.
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Front Facing Camera + Mirror = Profit.

Oh hell no. I would rather jump off a cliff while walking on hot coals while getting bitten by a cobra than willingly scratch my phone.

Pretty sure the speaker grill on the GNex is Plastic....

ahahah made my day this 3ad!cool!
i don't try that only for one reason...love my gnex without grey things,it's so beautiful when screen is off that it's all so black..but on others phone it can be good,more that with default speaker color!

TRusselo said:
Front Facing Camera + Mirror = Profit.
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Derp, I'll get the img when I get home. Also it looks more silver on the gnex than your img of the captivate. On yours it almost looks white, but the gnex has a dark look.

mine is pretty silvery but not.. "dark" as you said Gnex is.... the photo-shopped image I made might not be the most color accurate.. but close...
so i take it that its not plastic as was worried about 3 posts up? nice!.... derp.

the gnex is actually quite easy to take apart...all you need is a very small screw driver, a guitar pick and a steady hand. to bad i like the all black look unless i would try this out for you guys lol. good luck

Just be careful several users in the captivate forums reported bricking their phone, or experiencing random reboots, While other members were able to overclock their processor to 4.2 GHz... See original thread for details

Your approval rating just went over 9000!!!1!oneeleven

wheres that picture that was promised??