I was reading all I could about my phone, since I bought a non working one from ebay, and when I read the info about the qualcomm 6250 chip it says that there is a gps receiver built into the chip. I'm wondering if anyone has thought about what it would take to get this gps engine working. For instance is anyone working on the linux version trying to get the gps up and running?
Furthermore I ran across this post
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3756
Is it possible that htc will enable the gps engine in an update for the universal? These may be newb questions, and if so sorry about that, but if I can save $85 on a bt gps receiver, I figure it's worth asking. Lemme know what you people know/think about this.
As far as i know the Universal does not have a hardware gps receiver and will not be able to ever pick up a gps positioning signal because of this.
It's true that in atleast one HTC model there was a gps receiver in the chipset which was disabled at first due to driver issues, and later activated.
I'd buy the BT gps receiver
This has been debated in the past but the old threads seem to have been removed. There is apparently a suggestion that the Uni has limited GPS hardware but it has no GPS antenna so it could never be used.
According to Mamaich, the Universal *does* have GPS, but the unit is missing the necessary amplifier and antenna to make it work.
See this thread for details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298564
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Universal *does* have GPS
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LOL. it has the gps processing software but
does not have the hardware LNA.
Very useful indeed.
My Universal now has built-in GPS!
@gliven: Yes, the Universal does have its own GPS hardware, but it is useless. However, you can try my mod below. My Universal now has built-in GPS! It was a lot easier than I had thought.
The Universal still works fine after the modification, even as a phone.
PS: use Blu Tack.
he he I appreciate..may we could try a smaller gps unit.
SiRF make a gps engine the size of a postage stamp (footprint) dunno if it'll fit into the case, if it could, wire it to the irda input, power, and get a micro patch antenna, hmmmm. It could work!!! well maybe not...
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I (literally) just hung up with WAYNE ACHACKA at Siemens San Francisco. I expressed my disappointment with the update in that if did not really fix the problems associated with the device.
The issues I SPECIFICALLY addressed were the lousy BT signal (noisy & short range) and the poor WIFI performance.
He expresses a high level of concern over the issues that I spoke with him about, and it was suggested that everyone who is having problems to call the Siemens call center and put in a complaint/trouble ticket. Only in this fashion can they address the issues and try to get HTC to fix the problems with the hardware.
Here is the phone number (US): 1-888-777-0211 / Toll Free
Website: http://communications.siemens.com/cds/frontdoor/0,2241,us_en_0_76051_rArNrNrNrN,00.html
(you may have to highlight hte text, cut & paste into your browser)
I hope we can all work together to resolve the issues through Siemens - they certainly seem interested in making us happy!
Tom McElvy
I've gotten the impression that the BT problems are more hardware-related than software. Having gone through several BT patches, upgrading from 2400 to 3500 to 3900, I've noticed no significant difference in BT performance.
Two things that make me think it's a hardware issue:
Someone else has posted either here or over at HoFo that the antenna in the BlueAngel is poorly positioned; this may also explain the poor WiFi performance, as both BT and WiFi use the 2.4 GHz band, so it'd be possible to use one antenna for both.
I've used a couple BT devices (headset & GPS) with both the BlueAngel and my laptop, and the range with the laptop is at least twice that of the BlueAngel.
If the problem is in the hardware, there may not be an easy solution, although it may be possible to devise some kind of antenna booster that would help.
That is correct! It is a hardware issue. As for the device turning on automatically, that in fairness was a bluetooth stack issue. All the "BlueAngel" Devices should be recalled and everyone given a refund! They are crap!!!
Mike
Hi,
I am new to Universal (but not to HTC units ), so when I got a used one with a broken LCD last week I was very excited. But after I replaced the display and played around a bit with this toy - I thought it was not worth the hype.
But I got more & more suspicious about its wifi antenna and yes it definitely has some problem. It has 50% of the signal strength a half meter from my wifi router. From three meters it drops to 25%. And after 5 meters it's dead.
I upgraded the Radio stack to 1.14.10, but nothing's changed. Has anybody any suggestion?
The unit was taken apart by the previous owner and it is missing some screws - but all the screws around the antenna is in place...
If somebody needs photos I can post some.
Please advise!
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Have you tried going into wireless lan settings, then click on the power mode tab and change to best performance. That should do something. Maybe its set to best battery which would give you crappy performance and range. I am able to log into the internet wifi within my block.
HTC UNIVERSAL wifi power is very very ow i have the same problem and way to solve it. when my laptop says what signal is excelent my ppc cannot connect.
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Have you tried going into wireless lan settings, then click on the power mode tab and change to best performance...
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Thank you for your suggestion - now it's in midway position. It should do better - 4 meter is deadly! I have tried out with an Alpine and a Wizard as well and both done a better job!
Can you do me a favour and test it? I measured it at 0.5 m - 1 m and 4 m without _any_ obstruction (no wall whatsoever) between Universal and my router... That is why I suspected a hw failure.
Thanks,
ym
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HTC UNIVERSAL wifi power is very very ow i have the same problem and way to solve it. when my laptop says what signal is excelent my ppc cannot connect.
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But _that_ low?!?
Very strange however, since both Alpine and Wizard do a better job than my Asus laptop with built in wifi. So this would be a big surprise for me from a HTC unit...
Today I will test it with a Pretec SD wifi card - if this beast let me install the card's driver at the first place
i can use my exec in bed which is 10 meters, one floor and one wall away.
the signal is at about 1/3 strength at that distance which is ok but not as good as my laptop.
have you changed any settings on your wireless base station as this could also be the problem.
Continuing Uni WiFi problem
Sorry to post in an old thread, but there doesn't seem to have been any resolution here. I have the same problem as the OP, in that my Uni will only detect WiFi about two metres from the router unobstructed. Any further, and the Uni loses the signal. My Laptop gets the signal up to 15 metres away, through walls & floors, and my desktop is in another room using the wireless aswell. If it's any use to possible helpers, i'm running KDS WM6, previously standard WM5, and the router is a TP-Link branded thingy.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, it's intensely annoying being unable to use the WiFi functionality on the PDA.
Thanks in advance.
No real help sorry, but my Exec has terrible WiFi performance too. Within a couple of metres of the router it has max signal, but this drops off to 1/2 after 5m. (Laptop still shows full) And anything over 7/8m you may as well forget. Laptop seems to get twice the range. My old HP Ipaq 5xxx series PDA used to get much better perfromance than the exec, but lasted a lot less on WiFi. Maybe HTC have deliberately sacrificed range for battery life? Even with the device set to max performace? I wonder if anyone could do a registry hack to up the power to the WiFi, or would this potentially burn our the device?
Range issue - power of PDA or router?
Thanks for the reply anyway Steve. I reckon my range is even worse than yours - I mean, seriously, I have to be sat right nest to the router to get a signal. As may be apparent, i'm more of a 'consumer' than a developer when it comes to my Exec, but to continue your line of thought, is it an issue with the power coming from the Universal's Wifi, or from the router itself? I imagine if there are very few of us with this problem, then it's down to some poor router setup/cheap hardware on our part...
But yeah, if anyone with a little more knowhow could shed some more light on our problem, i'm sure we would all be very grateful.
Regards
wow i thought i only had this problem, a friend of mine said upgrading might help. any way i've posted a thread about the same problem here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321872
doesnt it kills you not being able to use the wi-fi in such a device???????
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is it an issue with the power coming from the Universal's Wifi, or from the router itself?
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I would bet the Universal, as I've always had the same router, in the same place with every wireless device I've used. The Uni is the worst performing of the bunch by a noticable margin.
Then again, I wonder if it has something to do with where the WiFi antenna is in the Uni itself? If the phone is pointing the wrong way the the phone itself blocks the signal? Every other device I have used has an external antenna (even the Ipaq)...
Hmm help needed from some experts here me thinks!
Expert Help needed, I agree
I doubt it's anything to do with the orientation of the antenna in the device, my lappy has an internal antenna and gets the signal just fine. Also, to add to the list of 'working' wireless devices, even my Nintendo DS picks up the signal throughout the house... Does radio version have anything to do with Wifi reception? I'm using 1.10 - y'reckon I should try 1.18 see if that helps? Rhetorical question, sorry - I'll TRY 1.18 and let you know if it helps.
Regards
not only poor wifi signal, the gsm signal also poor at uni, any solution of the gsm signal become stronger??
Hey all, I did the ultimate no-no and bought a cheap, wired gps antenna off Ebay. It plugs in to my phone, and I get google maps to start, but I can't get the settings right for my gps to actually work. It keeps coming back telling me it can't locate satellites. I even go as far as to put the gps on the top of my car instead of inside to try, but it still won't work, no matter how clear the sky is, even if im in the middle of the parking lot with no buildings over a story nearby. im getting frustrated, and the guy I bought it from sent me here. so, im hoping somebody can help me out?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120209369095
this is what I bought,so yeah. I'm hoping somebody knows more than I do, and im certain someone does.
If you look at the devices supported in the description the Wing/Herald/p4350 isn´t mentioned. The connector on the back of you device is for external phone antennas i e GSM/GPRS and nothing to do with GPS.
This antenna is only a GPS booster, your phone must have an internal GPSchip and the Wing doesn´t. (and the TyTN mentioned doesn´t either).
Use a bluetooth GPS reciever for you Tmobile Wing
Hey man, that sucks.
I do know for a fact though you can use the bluetooth function for a bluetooth GPS Reciever. I use it and it works beautifuly!!!! I've gone places I've never been too with mine, using google map, live search thats on the phone or you can download has a better maping service, its free too, tells you the gas rates near you too, good thing to have right now...but anyways...works super easy, no muss no fuss just connect like you would your bluetooth headset..just set the "external GPS" in your settings for hardware to com6 and whatever baud rate your GPS has to whatever it says your reciever has(in programs leave port to none, in "access" check the manage GPS and your good to go anywhere, also make sure google maps or live search gps settings match the com6 and baud rate. Need help ask me its cool I love the crap out of my phone its like a little laptop so friggin sweet. anyways
they sell em here, this is where I got mine.
http://www.buygpsnow.com/bluetooth-gps_9.aspx
the one I have is this one...
http://www.buygpsnow.com/OnCourse-B...o-OnOff)-(Your-Choice-of-Free-Mount)_896.aspx
Not very expensive either, I thought it would be.
I use mine to even track myself jogging, get my miles ran, how fast when I slowed down and all with Active Trace, you can download that, no maps but shows like the direction you went. but yeah bluetooth it, no wires put it in your pocket, dash whatever and go....
have fun
PS I only signed up on here cuase I was looking for accesories for my phone and ran across your post, figured I know how you feel and thought I'd help you out..
Angel
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i saw on a fourm it's said
the 838pro does have a GPS reciever but doesnt have a GPS antenna ... their are reports of successful attempts of soldering a GPS antenna but this will void the warranty
is it true?
anyone know?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_GPS_FAQ
Give up on the idea. Get yourself a Bluetooth GPS. Much easier on the brain, and you won't completely kill your hermes...
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Give up on the idea. Get yourself a Bluetooth GPS. Much easier on the brain, and you won't completely kill your hermes...
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u try before???
Nope - but after seeing what is required, I'm not even thinking about doing it
Please let us use this thread
GPS-Thread
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u try before???
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total waste of time, the ammount of shorts put onto the chip by HTC shows there never was any intention of allowing it to be easy....you are VERY likely to kill the thing before getting anything working.
mrvanx said:
total waste of time, the ammount of shorts put onto the chip by HTC shows there never was any intention of allowing it to be easy....you are VERY likely to kill the thing before getting anything working.
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i got another question if i bought a bluetooth GPS will it work with pc too?
my pc got bluetooth too
Yes
Just google how to use BT GPS with PCs with BT antennas/radios.
ov2rey said:
i got another question if i bought a bluetooth GPS will it work with pc too?
my pc got bluetooth too
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ov2rey said:
i got another question if i bought a bluetooth GPS will it work with pc too?
my pc got bluetooth too
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are you going to drive around with your pc
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are you going to drive around with your pc
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Ive been writing some experimental software that relies on GPS. It will run on standard PCs, not mobile phones. GPS isn't just for positioning. It also gives you a VERY accurate clock. I use my bluetooth GPS on both my laptop and my desktop all the time.
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Give up on the idea. Get yourself a Bluetooth GPS. Much easier on the brain, and you won't completely kill your hermes...
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I don't know how the map data is for where you are, but I run Garmin Mobile 10 XT for me here in the States. It's pretty nice and for only about $100 US. For that you get the GPS reciever, the maps and the software, and it's all prertty easy to use. Not too bad compared to some of the all in one units that cost up to $300...I use this every day and with all the POI's i use it all the time just for phone numbers and to see where a place is. I love how it lets you click the number to call it. 2009 maps are supposed to be out in a couple weeks.
Great site (sorry, the only site) for all things GPS - http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/default.asp?group=2
Hi,
EDIT: Fixed it by myself, resoldered the GPS Antenna 2 times, now it works
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Hi,
EDIT: Fixed it by myself, resoldered the GPS Antenna 2 times, now it works
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Do you have any pics, tutorial ? or know a link. Just for knowledge sharing.
You can use FasterFix free app to choose your continent/region and get better GPS results
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Do you have any pics, tutorial ? or know a link. Just for knowledge sharing.
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I used this one and some Pics of the Backcover to look where the contacts from GPS Antenna are.
now GPS Problems again :/
Replaced my LCD (was broken), all worked fine, but this week i needed GPS and i saw that it didn´t work.
I thaught ok, i already had contac Problems, so i soldered 2 wires to the GPS Antenna, but still no GPS Signal
Then i thought its Kernel related, so i reinstalled ROM (without Wipe) and the Stock Kernel. (ARHD 19.2) but still no GPS..
I deleted AGPS Data, no GPS also ((
Now i don´t know what to do, or test now :/
I measured the wires from One X Board to GPS Antenna, all ok, soldered good.
I have no idea what i can do now, but i want really a working GPS :crying:
no one has such silly problem like me???
How can i test if GPS works properly and its just a AGPS Problem?!?
How can i test GPS Antenna and the Hardware without getting a Sattelite??
The only thing i am sure is that the Antenna has contact to the Board, because i soldered 2 Wires in...
The antenna is is the same concact, so both wires are connected to the one contact antenna, right?
don´t know where the problem is
but im sick of searching, all things i thought could be didn´t help till now...
changed base, changed kernel, soldered wires directly to antenna and and and.. now i have no ideas
Even though you say you are sure you have soldered the wires in correctly, it sounds to me like a hardware issue as opposed to anything else. On my old hd2 my touchscreen broke and I sent it to a repair shop, had it fixed but then a week or so later had no gps, couldn't get it to work no matter what. My guess was that maybe one of the wires had been snipped when they had put the case back, I couldn't prove it without taking the back off, which I wasn't prepared to do. Can you not send it in for repair?
Sent from my HTC ONE X
if i send it to repair, they only can change motherboard or antenna, right? The price for this will be a new One X i think, so thats not rentable for me. But soldering something in and out should not be a problem for me, but i want to know whats not working, The Antenna i cant Mesure if it works correct or not, right?!? If its a Software Problem, i don´t know what i can do to solve it.
I tested, then after long time, GPS Test showed me 3 Satelites for 1 Second and then again nothing and nothing and nothing...
So what would be great, if i can look or do something to be sure its software or hardware related....
I even shortened all wires to let them very short, the are max. 3-4 cm long (Wifi. GPS, and 3G)
So i wired connectors top left, top right and middle down...
But on one side in near of NFC connectors (they are bigger) there are also 2 small connectors, for what are they? Should i wire them too??
Are there any things i can do, like delete some files or reset something, delete cache of definited apps or somewhate else? Reflash Rom with FULL Wipe, also didn´t work
AW: GPS dead?!? No GPS Signal
Is there any manual what connectors to check such are used for GPS? The 2 on the antenna I know, but perhaps there is a flat cable such is not connected good? And where can I buy a new antenna, I didn't find one yet.
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Nobody knows?
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yaaaaaaaaay, it finally works
after flashing to stock with full wipe, trying other kernel, other baseband, did different soldering tries (with cable, without cable) and nothing helped, i was shortly before to sell the one x (not really, but i was angry about it) and i tried lot of apps and gps.confs.....
resetted x times agps data etc, nothing helped...
then i tried GPS Aids from playstore and tadaaaaaaa -> now GPS works....
if i found it earlier, it would have saved me a lot of nervs and time and angryness ^^
what files are responsible for GPS? I played around a little bit, but now i have no Satellites again, and i tried all i did before, i tried different gps.confs and different ntp servers, no succes...
what files can i change again the stock ones to test if it works without a full wipe?
i didn´t think that the GPS is actually such complicated ^^
makes me crazy
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is it possible to solder a bridge between the 2 Contacts responsible for GPS on the Board? So that even if one contact has contact to the Antenna, the other one also has... Because the Antenna also is only one Contact, so they are bridged there, or do i understand something wrong?
hm, nobody knows?
so i think i have to live without GPS
I'm also having issues with gps.. i get 0 maybe 1 sattallite with gps test.Running ARHD 21.0
is there a way to test if its problem with contacts on the motherboard (similar to sqeeze test for wifi) ?
I dont want to open my phone (its pain in the a**)
I hope there is a solution for our problem, would be great but at the moment I dont know what we can do. The only think what I didn't test was to flash stock ruu....
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Later on i even opened the phone and putted some solder to the contacts for the gps antenna and yet the result is the same. I don't think it's hardware,becouse i would't get any sattalites at all,
but i do get sometimes 1 sattalite (no fix to it though). So gps hardware itself probobly isn't defected, so it must be a software issue of some kind.
@W0RSCHD
yeah try the stock rom and report back...
The solder I already did, and tried lot of gps apps and installed Rom with full wipe, all doesbt work. I also sometimes get one sat. But only for a second or two then it loose it and then it doesn't find any sat.
At the moment I have no time to test with ruu, so I have to live without GPS or hope that someone has a solution for it.
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it looks like we have the exact same problem....
hopefully a fix will come someday ..