Hi,
Im currently in the process of setting up Mail2web mainly for the purpose of having email "pushed" to me.
When its all up and running mail will be "pushed" to me automatically via GPRS obviously at a cost to myself for the data. What happens if i'm in range of a Wi-Fi connection, can the mail then be "pushed" via the Wi-Fi connection. If so, whats the process of switching between GPRS/Wi-Fi for the purpose of "pushed" mail from mail2web. Is it as simple as turning the GPRS off while in range of a Wi-Fi connection or will it default to Wi-Fi when in range.
I think this is a stupid question (but i'll ask it anyway). To get "push" mail working correctly I assume that both the device and email provider need to support it? I couldn't get my XDA to receive "push" from a any email provider...........sorry this is all new to me!!
Rob.
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Going away next week so I want to bea ble to check my POP3 NTL email via GPRS.
At the moment I have my XDA iiS set up so I can check the email via my WiFi connection at home. This works ok, and I can send or receive with no problems.
However, when I try to create a new Messaging account, I'm really struggling.
FYI, my mobile company is Virgin and my email ISP is NTL.
I've already created the standard GPRS connection through Virgin, which works for for internet browsing etc.
So far i've:
1 - created a new messaging account called "NTL via GPRS" (to differentiate from the wifi account)
2 - Input my NTL email address
3 - User Information - my usual NTL user name & password
4 - Account type is set to POP3
5 - Incoming Mail Server is set to POP.NTLWORLD.COM
6 - Outgoing Mail Server is set to SMTP.T-EMAIL.CO.UK (i believe this is because Virgin actually runs on the T-Mobile network?)
When I click on the send/receive button, the GPRS conection is made, but then all that happens is the progress indicator just says, "connecting..." for ages, then I get 2 error messages - "timed out waiting for server - please retry" - and "Messages cannot be dwnloaded to your mobile device. Make sure you are connected and that your email account settings are correct."
Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong? Any help would be massively appreciated - thanks.
3 - User Information - my usual NTL user name.... did you set name only? try set [email protected]
Was anyone able to help here. I have exactly the same robelm with Tmobile in the UK. I would like to be able to send mail via GPRS but can't. I can receive it and I can do both on wifi.
The problem is some weard logic from the ISP's. You probably have an email account with the ISP that gets you your internet connections as well at home.
When using WiFi @ home you still send your email via your own ISP.
When you send email via GPRS, the email will be send via your GSM/GPRS provider of your sim-card which will be another telco/isp.
For some reason telco's/ISP won't allow you to send mail, using the smtp (outgoing mail) server of your own ISP. This is why it won't work via GPRS.
It very much depends on your telco company to get this working. I know the trick for vodafone in the Netherlands, but that won't help you I think. Most of the time some smart "googling" will help.
I my case the trick was to get an free account via the website of MyVodafone.nl
and on the PDA I defined an email account with an outgoing mail server that requires autentication and as autentication I used the u/p I created on the vodafone website. And the address of the outgoing mailserver in my case is authsmtp.vodafone.nl
Can anyone help.
I use the ordinary pre-installed outlook program on my MDAIII. I have always been able tos end and receive pop email over wifi and I can receive email no probelms via gprs. However, when I send messages via gprs they come back as undeliverable. I don't think it used to happen all the time but I think it is doing now.
I have never changed the rom versions or done anything like that so I shouldn't have done it any serious damage.
Any help anyone?
Check if your e-mail acount provider needs password for outgoing emails. If so, probably writing your user name and password which you use to read your incoming mails to outgoing mails section will solve your problem.
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Check if your e-mail acount provider needs password for outgoing emails. If so, probably writing your user name and password which you use to read your incoming mails to outgoing mails section will solve your problem.
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Thats sounds logical - although wouldn't that affect me sending mail via wifi? it works fine via wifi - just not GPRS?
That's also logical. :wink:
If your mail account provider needs an SSL connection and specify the incoming and outgoing ports, your GPRS carrier may not support this kind of connection.
SOrry to be dim but I am not sure I am quite with you. I know that some of my emails have previously got through but have no idea why this has changed. DO you know how I need to check these settings as I am not sure about it at all.
thanks so much
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Can anyone help.
I use the ordinary pre-installed outlook program on my MDAIII. I have always been able tos end and receive pop email over wifi and I can receive email no probelms via gprs. However, when I send messages via gprs they come back as undeliverable. I don't think it used to happen all the time but I think it is doing now.
I have never changed the rom versions or done anything like that so I shouldn't have done it any serious damage.
Any help anyone?
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The problem is some weard logic from the ISP's. You probably have an email account with the ISP that gets you your internet connections as well at home.
When using WiFi @ home you still send your email via your own ISP.
When you send email via GPRS, the email will be send via your GSM/GPRS provider of your sim-card which will be another telco/isp.
For some reason telco's/ISP won't allow you to send mail, using the smtp (outgoing mail) server of your own ISP. This is why it won't work via GPRS.
It very much depends on your telco company to get this working. I know the trick for vodafone in the Netherlands, but that won't help you I think. Most of the time some smart "googling" will help.
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Although it was long winded andnot exactly easy I have solved this by the most logical method.
I have kept my settings the same for my 3 pop email accounts (same ISP) for wifi and set up one new one called gprs etc. for sending mail by gprs with the outgoing server as smtp.t-mobile.co.uk rather than that of my isp. Thanks very much for sending me in the right direction.
Warning to anyone else struggling with similar probelms - you need to keep the acounts seperate I think. have one for wifi and one for gprs as the outgoing servers are going to be different and the blasted machines can't cope with automatically switching.
thanks to all concerned.
Hi all,
Recently joined the world of PDA's after realising the smartphones werent really that smart or good at anything, just average at a bit of everything.
Got myself and MDA iii which is on my t-mobile contract. I also have a google mail account.
I've managed to set up my PDA to receive my gmail emails but I can't send, every time it's saying "Unable to connect to the outgoing mail server. Verify the server name is correcnt, then try again to send and receive mail."
But I'm receiving mail. Can anyone help. I'm glad I got this far to be honest, I'm a complete techno muppet normally!!!
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Mail has two sides to it, sending and receiving.
If you get your mail your pop settings are fine
If you dont get your mail your SMTP settings are NOT Fine.
Inorder that users do not use a smtp server for releying mail many porividers block the sending of mails if you are not on there network or need you to authenticate on that server.
here is a home example.
My PDA is connected over wifi to a ADSL from my internet provider FASTNET
My pop mail I get over wifi (thus the ADSL) from my pop provder POPMAIL.
Thus I am no the FASTnet Network and need to send via FASTNET smtp.
If I try to send over POPMAIL it wont work as it is blocked by POPMAIL as I am comming from a differnet network (that of FASTMAIL).
So set up your account over your network provider.
Hope that helps
You could also try the Gmail App midlet for checking/searching/sending mail. Go to gmail.com/app on your PDA, and try it out. You use the Midlet Manager to run it.
Hello
I didn't find any info this kind of problem what i have after updating mobile 6.
So i have email account on internet and i can receive mails to my tytn but cannot send any mail. i also try to start internet share and send mail with my computer but i get error what says "cannot connect smtp server" what the hell is wrong.
If i connect normaly my tytn to active sync i can send mails and receive mails with same setting thru my DSL. But with 3G or GPRS i cannot send mail. everything else is working and has been working before update to wm6.
B.R
Seppo Somppi
What SMTP server are you using?
You should be using the one from your internet provider, which - when
using your mobile phone as internet acces device - is your mobile
operator.
Jörg
I use my DSL internet provider mail service, It has been working exatly with same settings before, and now i'm able to receive all mails from imap.netikka.net mail server but cannot send email outgoing SMTP server "mail.netikka.fi"
I can send and receive emails with my computer thru DSL normaly so that mail server should be ok. Something has to be wrong in wm6 settings some security problem maby.
The mail server is ok, but quite often one cannot access an smtp server
from outside the providers' network (sometimes access is possible from
outside with a logon and a password). This is a common security measure to
avoid their mailservers being used for spam.
So if you connect via a provider A, you can fetch mail from anywhere, but
you should send mails via the smtp server provider A has (regardless of
where your mail comes from). If you then connect via a provider B, you can
again fetch your mails from anywhere, but you cannot use the smtp server
of provider A; you need the one provider B has.
Try first using the smtp server from your mobile provider, if that doesn't
work it is indeed something in wm6.
Jörg
Thanks for info, I set now my phone operator outgoing smtp server address and now mails are going out also.
So case closed.
sompse said:
Thanks for info, I set now my phone operator outgoing smtp server address and now mails are going out also.
So case closed.
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Actually, the smtp stuff gives rise a problem I also want to warn you for... If you connect to multiple networks with your TyTN (e.g. wifi and 3G), you basically would want to be able to change the smtp server to suit your needs (e.g. on wifi you need the smtp server of your dsl provider, on 3G the one of your mobile provider). There is no mechanism foreseen in Messaging to achieve this.
As a workaround, I duplicate my mail accounts, but with different outgoing settings (most just go back 3 days or so): i have for instance "mymailbox (provider one)" and "mymailbox (provider 2)". Depending on the network via which I connect, I need to select the appropriate mailbox before choosing "new" or "reply". This way, the correct smtp server is used when I send a mail. It is not an elegant solution, but I haven't found another way. If you have an smtp server that requires you to log on to send mails, chances are you can access that one from anywhere.
Jörg
Yes i have now that problem that in 3g network mail goes out but not my DSL wifi but i can live with that. But still it is quite weird that with WM5 my DSL provider smtp server works even 3g and wifi but not with WM6.
If you can log on to the smtp server, it could be possible to use it regardless of your connection.
Perhaps you can test it when you use your laptop to send emails, but connect via your mobile operator to internet. If that works, it ought to work with wm6;
but I doubt it to be possible without logon.
Jörg
V J said:
Actually, the smtp stuff gives rise a problem I also want to warn you for... If you connect to multiple networks with your TyTN (e.g. wifi and 3G), you basically would want to be able to change the smtp server to suit your needs (e.g. on wifi you need the smtp server of your dsl provider, on 3G the one of your mobile provider). There is no mechanism foreseen in Messaging to achieve this.
Jörg
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Agreed this is a flaw in WM6, shoul be possible to quickly toggle between different settings for SMTP.
I have the same problem, two years ago this was not an issue I could then use the smtp settings from our domain on phone and in office (dsl), this no longer works even with the DSL connection in the office we have to use smtp of the internet provider.
Hay,
my phone only checks email when wifi is enabled. when i am at school, i dont get my mail.
is this a known problem or is there a fix for it?
It would be an epic fail for a business device of the TP2's calibur if this is a widespread problem. Most likely, it's probably just your email settings that are giving you problems. What's the setup type? POP3, IMAP, Windows Live mail, or Exchange? Remember to check the polling intervals.
indeed it would be.
My pop3 mailbox gives this trouble, but it would be realy strange that it is working with wifi and not without wifi.
And i know for sure that my provider doesn't blok it, because i can enter my mail by webbrowser, but that is to much work to check every time.
anybody got an solution for this?