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LVSW Whitescreen... the truth

OK, the LVSW ROM was deliberately built with the faulty tadzio toolchain in order to prevent people editing it, and I'm pretty sure this is also the reason it's causing issues with the new SPLs... therefore, I can only suggest everyone avoid LVSWs releases till he uses the new toolchain.
jasjamming's ROMs are a good alternative and are recommended.

Good info!!
Somehow LVSW's edition runs SPB without an issue. I like SPB Pocket Plus, weather and Shell, but it wont run smooth under Black edition.... Hope the next release improves...

Hmm that sounds kinda messed up...
I like both ROMs...honestly I just want a "clean" ROM where I can add all my stuff...
Black is nice but I think its loaded with too much stuff I don't use...like vjtools and such (tho they are nice, it sure makes a mess out of my programs screen).
I'm just waiting for 2.0 so I can use Live Messenger again ^_^
Just my 2 cents

Olipro said:
OK, the LVSW ROM was deliberately built with the faulty tadzio toolchain in order to prevent people editing it, and I'm pretty sure this is also the reason it's causing issues with the new SPLs... therefore, I can only suggest everyone avoid LVSWs releases till he uses the new toolchain.
jasjamming's ROMs are a good alternative and are recommended.
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The 0326 LVSW edition can be edited with no problem. I use 0326 LVSW as a based and cooked a few roms and flashed/booted with no problems.

@akarandomjames
Yeah I agree... Right now I'm using LVSW because it's the cleanest I can get: only the useful hacks have been done (especially the last version), no adding useless programs. I tried 3DES yesterday as well but definitely too many programs there. The BIG problem I have with LVSW is that I can't find IP telephony, which is and should remain a part of WM6.
But I agree, what I would love is a ROM that has the problems and bugs of WM6 worked out (like LVSW), so that I don't need to touch the registry (actually I do, but that's only because I'm adding Japanese input and removing the others) or install any hacks. AND this ROM should keep the features of basic WM6 (IP telephony, like Black or 3DES). AND this ROM shouldn't add any programs! I mean whenever I install Linux on my computer, I choose what programs I want. I don't want to get programs which I can't even erase!
This sounds like a lot of complaining, and I'm sorry it does, but I think it's more of a critic that these cooked ROMs are getting already too bloated. It's a typical Geek/Engineer problem to want to add as many features as possible in one package... But let people choose by letting them install the programs they really want.
I'm sure the answer could be "cook your own ROM"! And I guess I will. But right now I don't have time... just starting to work, moving to Japan in 10 days, etc. busy busy... And I respect, admire, and love the work the ROM cookers are doing. You're incredible, guys!
Yannick

As I understand it and please correct me if I'm wrong (will help me avoid a blind alley) The basic WM6 OS with HTC drivers and apps could be included in the main rom and then all the fancy bits that we may or may not need/want included in the extended rom. Then those who don't want it need not install it and either can install the bits they do want the hard way or if they feel brave can cook there own extended rom so hard resets only need a quick resync...

Olipro said:
I can only suggest everyone avoid LVSWs releases till he uses the new toolchain. jasjamming's ROMs are a good alternative and are recommended.
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Disagree.
I'm using LVSW since some days without any problems and as far as I remember the white screen is also reported with jasjamming's black edition, for instance here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1198178&postcount=950
But maybe I'm just a lucky guy without troubles and the problem described in the link above is a different one
Nonetheless I'm waiting for kyphurs new rom, hope he will release it within the next week.

Damn, and just after I decide to go to LVSW yesterday (I was still on XDA Live 0.10).
I think, thanks to the RUU Wrapper and Hard SPL I avoided any issues with the white screen (fingers crossed) - so thanks for that - but I'm definitely waiting for XDA 0.30 and hopefully a cab for Windows Live as Black doesn;t really suit me.

Agree with gerald_s. Same here. No issues at all with either of the 2{5,6}/03 versions. Maybe this comes down to hardware differences (i.e. G3/G4 DOC flash etc.). My JASJAM is a recent one, S/N HT649.

No problems with a HTC TyTN and LVSW 20070326. No blank screen at all.

I am also doing well with the ROM and installed SPB Mobile Shell, Pocket Plus, Wather, Palm thresded SMS... all working fine, i need to Hard reset after the ROM flushing as it was requested on the forum..

ey, i noted this....
A week ago + or - i have got upgraded my TyTN to HardSPL 1.10 and the upgraded to LVSW (all the versions, minus 2(5-6)/03) and Black 1.1 & 1.2 and when take a look to info 8 have no bad block in any case.
Yesterday upgrade to HardSPL 1.40, and before upgrade to LVSW 26/03 take a look to info 8, and bad blocks appears (3 bad blocks). Then upgrade to LVSW 26/03 and works fine, all working good, no problem at all.
Regards.

jasjamming has been doing some tests, it looks like there may be further issues even with the newer versions. watch this space.

akarandomjames said:
Hmm that sounds kinda messed up...
I like both ROMs...honestly I just want a "clean" ROM where I can add all my stuff...
Black is nice but I think its loaded with too much stuff I don't use...like vjtools and such (tho they are nice, it sure makes a mess out of my programs screen).
I'm just waiting for 2.0 so I can use Live Messenger again ^_^
Just my 2 cents
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Buhwawawa...those 4 files are 8.5k, 31k, 9k and 9k...don't add up to 60k...57.5k to be exact. He even removed all the alarms and only left 3 ringtones.
Bhwawawa. His has the LEAST amount of stuff. Don't like your programs "screen" just delete the shortcuts from the menu. :rofl:

Just wondering: Why does LVSW not answering to this thread?

ok, I'm going to dump the ROM and reconstruct it, can someone who has whitescreen please contact me so I can send them a "fixed" OS for testing.

i'm trying an anagram...
LVSW (mirror mode)
MSAT ..8525...

I just upgarded my Trion 5 days ago from WMXL 0.2 to LVSW. I upgraded twice, using SPL 1.09 and Hard SPL 1.30 no white issue at all. The new rom is very2 stable and fast. I love it.

xultar said:
Buhwawawa...those 4 files are 8.5k, 31k, 9k and 9k...don't add up to 60k...57.5k to be exact. He even removed all the alarms and only left 3 ringtones.
Bhwawawa. His has the LEAST amount of stuff. Don't like your programs "screen" just delete the shortcuts from the menu. :rofl:
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I wasn't complaining about space...I actually just want something as close to an "original WM6" as I can get.
So I ran LSVW's and soft reset right after setting up my device so none of that 3 second crap was installed...installed fixes and tweaks myself...and everything is running fine.
I'm just waiting (a long time) for Cingular's release of WM6 for the 8525...and waiting for some new kitchens to open up ^_^
Hopefully by then, I'll be able to understand how to cook my own roms.

Olipro said:
OK, the LVSW ROM was deliberately built with the faulty tadzio toolchain in order to prevent people editing it, and I'm pretty sure this is also the reason it's causing issues with the new SPLs... therefore, I can only suggest everyone avoid LVSWs releases till he uses the new toolchain.
jasjamming's ROMs are a good alternative and are recommended.
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BTW jasjamming's ROMs are getting (or were getting?) the white screen issue as often as LVSW's

Flashing back to wm5?

How would I go about flashing my phone back to wm5? Or should I? I never really used wm5 and went straight to wm6. What do you guys think is more buggy? I have a feeling wm6 is or maybe I just need to reinstall it. It nothing specific just random bugs like sometimes the screen light wont turn off, memory running out, and just other things that happen. So should i flash to wm5 or reflash wm6 in hopes of having it fix issues.

Stay with WM6. It rocks. There are fixes for just about everything, you just have to look around a little.
Sounds to me like you hard a bad install and something went wrong. I would re-install the WM6 ROM from TMO here --> http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
After you install (W/O memory card installed) it go here --->http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1160147
Hope this helps.

So what exactly does having the memory card out do when your installing? Ill do a reinstall when I get home.

Not sure but I've read that many people choose to do a clean install without anything extra like storage cards installed. Something about an endless reboot loop. There's a big thread about in on HOFO.

May i ask what the Pros and Cons for both WM5 and WM6 ROMS are?

oldsap said:
May i ask what the Pros and Cons for both WM5 and WM6 ROMS are?
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you're kidding right?

lafester said:
you're kidding right?
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hahaha no sir. I have just ordered my DASH and while reading through the threads, ive seen lots of bugs, etc when WM6 ROM is used.
By pros and cons, i meant the essential performance of the unit when using WM5 or WM6, like battery life, speed, etc

people freak out when they upgrade and think everything is going to be the same as wm5 only better. there are very few real bugs in wm6 and those have all been fixed here.
there are still some apps that don't work but there's nothing we can do about that. i'm sure the devs will update their products soon.
speed is slightly faster but everything else is about the same performance wise. i actually have a little more memory with wm6 then i did with wm5 but programs still leak so its best to keep them closed.
all the other enhancements make it a no brainer to upgrade especially if you are just getting it and haven't loaded it up with apps and tweaks already.

thank you lafester for the quick reply

I'm staying with WM5 for the simple fact that I still have "voice tags" !!
does anyone knows if there exist a Widcom stack to hack over the MS stack ??? simply for more BT profiles ??? I also own the Axim X51V and having the Widcom stack rules !!! MS BT stack is the pit !!!

lafester said:
i actually have a little more memory with wm6 then i did with wm5 but programs still leak so its best to keep them closed.
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???
comparing the 2 ROMs ( HTC WM5 for S620 & WM6 T-mobile )
HTC S620 = 23+ MB
T-Mobile = 19 + MB
this is after a fresh ROM upgrade/downgrade ... from rogers S621.
how did you get more ????
I do agreed however ... that WM6 is a little zippier

maybe because i have the dash so we are comparing different starting roms.

ive read somewhere that there is a built in IM for yahoo,etc in WM5 ROM. If this is true, is it also available in WM6 ROM?

oldsap said:
ive read somewhere that there is a built in IM for yahoo,etc in WM5 ROM. If this is true, is it also available in WM6 ROM?
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yep but it doesn't connect over wifi, I think it might be designed to only use GPRS so t-mobile can make revenue from it.

Anyone know how to manually remove all the t-mobile programs from the dash? Mine is only sim unlocked but not cid so I can't install the HTC S620 rom.

how do you flash back to wm5 i have problems with wm6

iba12345 said:
how do you flash back to wm5 i have problems with wm6
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the same way you would with WM6 ... only this time use the HTC S620 WM5 ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288230

this is kinda OT here but may i ask which WM5 ROM is the best with regards to speed, ease of use, memory? DopodAsia/T-Mo/HTC?

WHY move to WM6? Your MUSTs?

Sorry to ask you guys, but after a lot of search in the forum, and playing for a while with a Touch, I haven't see a compeling reason to move my Trinity from my actual version :HTC SPA GPS Official tweaked and + or - working properly.
So that's my question: Why YOU would decide/reccomend WM6 over WM5?
Thanks a lot for the advice.
Regards.
PD I did download the WM6 Faman SPA ROM, but yet reluctant to install. Help me decide!

a) keep up with the times - you'll have to eventually anyway
b) update wm6 without having to re-flash it
c) html emails!
d) looks nicer
e) other stuff which i've yet to find out about -- that's right, i haven't upgraded from wm5 to wm6 yet! still waiting for an official wm6 rom. might go with indigo full if it's not too buggy and if mun fixes the poor radio signal problem.

WM6 is:
Faster
More stable
HTML email
Updated Office
More available RAM
Nicer looking
These reasons should be enough to convince you to upgrade provided that you have the time to reinstall all of your applications and setup your device from scratch.

forcedalias said:
b) update wm6 without having to re-flash it
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Please explain me this?? (maybe problem is just my english understanding)
By the way I just finnish put new PDAVIET ROM and it's going quite well!!!

forcedalias said:
a) keep up with the times - you'll have to eventually anyway
b) update wm6 without having to re-flash it
c) html emails!
d) looks nicer
e) other stuff which i've yet to find out about -- that's right, i haven't upgraded from wm5 to wm6 yet! still waiting for an official wm6 rom. might go with indigo full if it's not too buggy and if mun fixes the poor radio signal problem.
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Thanks for your info!
Granted, I will keep up with the times, but after WM2003 (full restore no longer available), the hassles of upgrading have overcomed the benefits.
I understand that what you mean by wm6 upgrades without reflashing is without reinstalling apps, isn't it?
As for html e-mails... well I don't use HTML a lot even in my desktop, nor do I check e-mail in my Trinity other than web-mail.......
For the look... you mean the gray Today screen? IT seems OK, but not to the extent of upgrading ;o))
Really, some nice points to be aware. Thanks.

Matterhorn said:
WM6 is:
Faster
More stable
HTML email
Updated Office
More available RAM
Nicer looking
These reasons should be enough to convince you to upgrade provided that you have the time to reinstall all of your applications and setup your device from scratch.
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Faster: That would be one good reason! WM5 is soooo sloooowww.....
Stable: my second best one!
HTML e mail... well, not a key point to me, but I'll take that one too.
Updated Office: I've never been able to do a lot of work on Office apps. It's nice to add some data on the go, as to expenses reports and so on, but not "real" formatting and the like. Too many compromises when "syncing" excel complex datasheets to name one "minus" point.
How much more RAM available are we talking?
As for the nicer looking, I admit it might be, but after one hour or so with an i-phone, EVERY WM device looks... well.... past century.....
Obviously, reinstalling all apps, the registry tweaks, the network settings, etc, is a big drawback, especially if I've to roll back everything, as happened too many times with the S200.
Well, thanks for pointing the issues for my, i'm getting closer to the upgrade.

Matterhorn said:
WM6 is:
Faster
More stable
HTML email
Updated Office
More available RAM
Nicer looking
These reasons should be enough to convince you to upgrade provided that you have the time to reinstall all of your applications and setup your device from scratch.
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IMHO the first two (faster, more stable) are theoretical. I've been using various WM6 ROMs, and I don't see much increase in speed compared to WM5, and the beta/cooked/hacked roms aren't as stable as well (but the official WM5 has issues too, so maybe because it's just a Windows after all...)

mikhe69 said:
Please explain me this?? (maybe problem is just my english understanding)
By the way I just finnish put new PDAVIET ROM and it's going quite well!!!
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I was referring to the Windows Update feature on WM6 that'll allow you to download updates for WM6 via the internet as oppose to flashing your phone with a whole new ROM which'll mean re-installing all your apps etc.

MrSteve said:
IMHO the first two (faster, more stable) are theoretical. I've been using various WM6 ROMs, and I don't see much increase in speed compared to WM5, and the beta/cooked/hacked roms aren't as stable as well (but the official WM5 has issues too, so maybe because it's just a Windows after all...)
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Hi,
One significant speed increase: Use File Explorer to access "\windows"
This directory contains a large number of files.
In WM5 it takes very long (10-20 seconds from memory).
in WM6 it takes 1-2 seconds, hinting at significant improvements in file system routines.
This might also have indirect impacts on other functions.
Cheers

New Rom Pda Viet Wm6.1 V3.62.61.18

pda viet wm6.1 rom,v3.62.61.18/CE OS 5.2.19199 Build 19199.1.2.0
vanila version,veeeeeeeery fast and stable.
download link 1:http://www.4shared.com/file/38244597...ified=7ed9855d
download link 2:http://www.mediafire.com/?ct2mnbmzjhl

Cool
Just flashed and errored out at 100%. I hit the reset button and it booted fine. So far it's quick.. will leave for the night and let you know more tomorrow when i've run with it a while.

mimahitna said:
pda viet wm6.1 rom,v3.62.61.18/CE OS 5.2.19199 Build 19199.1.2.0
vanila version,veeeeeeeery fast and stable.
download link 1:http://www.4shared.com/file/38244597...ified=7ed9855d
download link 2:http://www.mediafire.com/?ct2mnbmzjhl
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any more data on this rom??
memory??
screen shots??
thanks
edward

info
Not big storage
Program: 23.93 free
Storage 62.11 free.
Comes with:
Adobe Flash Lite
Adobe reader
Audio manager
Display Switcher
PsShutxp
Voice Speed Dial
Office 07, Missing one note
advance config
Flashlight,
WM5torage
PHM Regeditor
PIM Backup
Synchro Time
HTC Home
standard games
Looks extremely similar to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376223
that said I'm going back to the other rom because it's Big Storage

it's A good ROM, not as fast as faria, all is working.

Can anybody post any other download links? The link above are veeeerrrryyyy slow so cannot download

I'm wondering where the newer build came from, or if it's faked like the BA ROM that was released under the same name. I'm not saying this one is, but it has happened before.

jdc said:
I'm wondering where the newer build came from, or if it's faked like the BA ROM that was released under the same name. I'm not saying this one is, but it has happened before.
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PDAViet's 6.1 ROM for The BA is not faked. I've been using it for a week or two. It's one of the best BA ROMs. For this reason, I might give this one a try.

rambo6 said:
PDAViet's 6.1 ROM for The BA is not faked. I've been using it for a week or two. It's one of the best BA ROMs. For this reason, I might give this one a try.
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Sure, it's not a WM5 or 6 made to look like 6.1. I should explain what I'm referring to.
There is a PDAViet WM 6.0 release for the Blue Angel (I still have my angel) with a faked build number (hex edited to make it look like a later build than it was). Since this build number is later than all the others available, I was wondering if the same thing was done.
If it works, great and dandy. I'm just suspicious of a ROM that's been edited to make it look like it's a later version, and slightly suspicious of any other ROM's from the group or person who did the editing previously. Really, I see no reason to do this, so I have to wonder what the motivation is.

Jdc:
I think you're right. I think PDAViet dummied up some earlier WM5 ROMs to make them appear like WM6 when they were not. He may have also copied some of Helmi's stuff and was criticized on this forum.
However, this guy has earned some credit. His WM6.1 for the BA is nothing short of superb. It's the first version which doesn't wake up all the time to keep the bluetooth working. It's simply the most stable WM6 ROM for the BA. Xplode's is good too. Enough about the BA.
I just flashed this ROM to my wife's Hermes. At first I could not connect to AT&T's network at all. Something in the extended ROM was making it so it wouldn't connect. So what I did was go into settings and used the "Clear Storage" function. As it rebooted, I soft reset it so that the contents of the Extended ROM did not load. After that I was able to get the phone signal and configure my device manually for AT&T.
I've flashed a bunch of ROMs on my wife's Hermes. I've only been messing with it for an hour or so but so far everything works and it's fast. I'll post more as I take it through the paces. I really like the threading Text messages. They take up less space and are easier to follow.

After trying this ROM for a day, I find it very fast and stable. The only fault I find is that there's no MMS. I tried to load Arcsoft 5.0.31.7 but it does not show all the settings necessary to us it.
This ROM even works with TCPMP so that one can view videos on YouTube.

All rom chef's
Hello, seeing this rom and not knowing who "Viet"(no offense) is, makes me feel like cooking mine up and putting a link from rapishare down 'er.
I do have a suggestion - that all ROM chefs make a post, where they put their Cooking resume down all we can check their credibility (if they cooked it themselves). and also to give us (people who like to use their ROM's a feeling of safety, before actually downloading anything.
Just a suggestion.... i hope other's agree with me, considering our hardware.

IE Mobile 6

Will anyone be porting Internet Explorer Mobile 6 and getting it into a ROM for hermes? is it even possible?

I woul;d like to know that too, thanks.

me!!! =D. perhaps CRC?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/19/ie-mobile-6-cooked-into-custom-rom-for-htc-touch-hd/

It appears to be baked into [NEW] 19/12/08 [Release] 20940/build 20931 Manila2D Black FULL - Very Fast and Stable.

Really I hate Manila2D it take up so much memory, it make the phone run slow.

austinsmartie said:
It appears to be baked into [NEW] 19/12/08 [Release] 20940/build 20931 Manila2D Black FULL - Very Fast and Stable.
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You Sure? is there a non-manila version of this ROM?

Yes, pls see thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458456. I don't know if IE6 is in that version. Perhaps you can pm the developer and ask for a cab???
See also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461680, just posted.

Anyone have the components to add into my kitchen?? chefs out there?

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/11/11/internet-explorer-mobile-6.aspx
just read a few comments u'l see it is crap
i have it coocked in rom 20755 somwhere on hermes there was it working the first time
on kaiser its on newer builds standart but nobody uses it for its lasyness the opera builds are all much faster . youtube is working only in desktop mode not mobile mode so u can not really use it.

Here you go chefs, Enjoy, But i do agree with anryl
http://rapidshare.com/files/175196550/IE_Mobile_6_0409.zip

opera is way better for mobile browsing

joshkoss
OK, downloaded file, now what?

caseyhales said:
joshkoss
OK, downloaded file, now what?
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add into sys folder of your kitchen and kook a rom.

it's actually cooked inside the already linked rom, but it doesn't work so good. You can't open sites like m.facebook.com or m.youtube.com... It says they don't exist.
Nice finger scrolling, but it is not breaking news...

I think MS was right in not making this available as an update and only integrated with new phones. Really is a POS running on a Hermes... previous version works much better for these units.

so it's more bloatware =(

joshkoss said:
Here you go chefs, Enjoy, But i do agree with anryl
http://rapidshare.com/files/175196550/IE_Mobile_6_0409.zip
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Do you have this in .cab form?

skippyd77 said:
Do you have this in .cab form?
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Sorry man! i don't.

TAI_Sw already built it in his manila roms.
better then old IE, consume less RAM than opera but a little bit buggy. As for me - very similar to opera, but whithout nice interface and whithout multitabs.
As for me - Netfront is the best browser.

I think that you need to taste the Skyfire...
It runs well but it dont have sound for flv player on usb activesync conn.
Over 3g GPRS edge or WIFI works very very nice!!!!