How to repeat Text Message Notification - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Is there a way to repeat "Play Sound" until you acknowledge the incoming text message? Repeat is grayed out in the notification area. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, Allen

Hi Allen
I use DontForget for this and its a pretty good freeware/donationware program
http://blog.softimage.cz/?page_id=83
Its designed for WM5 smart phones but will work on any WM5 with a small registry tweak:
quote from developer Hujer:
However, you are running DF on the PocketPC device and it is intended for Smartphones in this version.
The next release version will run on PocketPCs as well (even this is not "real" PPC version).
For now you can try to "fix" it by adding following registry entries.
Please add following keys to you device registry:
Create the key HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles
Create the key HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles\Silent
Create the key HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles\Loud
Create the key HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles\Normal
Create the key HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles\Meeting
Now you should be able to run the DontForgetAdmin and set up all parameters.
Please note that due to missing Profiles on PocketPCs you have to switch off following options in the Admin:
- deactivate in following profile:
- switch to following profile (in both deactivation and re-activation section)
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Enjoy!

"Dontforget" "dont" work for me...
I installed it and made the reg entries. But never have been able to get it to work. When I start the admin app I get...
"An unexpected error had occured in DontForgetAdmin.exe.
Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more infomation."
For Details...
DontForgetAdmin.exe
Exception
MISC::HandleAr+0x5b
ComboBox::set_SelectedIndex+0x13
MainForm::MainForm_Load+0xa7f
Form::OnLoad+0x15
Form::_SetVisibleNotify+0x1d
Control::set_Visible+0x1f
Application::Run+0x7
MainForm::Main+0xa
Oh well... I guess I'll have to wait for the upgraded version unless someone has any idea about this???
Thanks,
-Pad

Found this hack on another website, which seems to do the trick (and yes, I did try it first ) - only problem is, the notification seems to carry on "for a while" after you've read/deleted the text message.
Give it a go, see what you think.
Mark.
Repeat notifications for text and email messages
Under HKCU/ControlPanel/Notifications find the following keys for Email and Text messages:
A877d65Axxxxxxx
A877d65Bxxxxxxx
Also find Key 15F11F90xxxx for reminders.
Copy the Options value from the Reminders key and overwrite the options value in both email and text message keys with this value (1073741853)
Once you do this, go to start - settings - sounds and notifications - notifications.
Under events, select new email message OR new text message and you'll notice that the repeat option that was greyed out is now enabled and can be selected.
You need to power off (NOT Soft Reset!!) your device to ensure that the HKCU registry hive is written away correctly.
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I personally use phoneAlarm. Don't use this feature, but it can do the trick.

Great. But how do I...
Mark, Great reg hack but I have a question...
How do I tell which key is for what message applet?
Email ?
SMS ?
Palm SMS ?
Etc.
You have listed them for email and sms but is there a way to tell from within the key which one is for which msg applet?
Also, does anyone know where the value of "1073741853" is derived from?

@Padawan,
Each of the keys has a description field - just click on it in PHM RegEdit (or whatever you're using) and you can see what type of message action it relates to; e.g. A877d65B-xxxx-xxxx has "Messaging: New Text Message" as the value of the "Default" key.
The value "1073741853" is equivalent to 0x4000001D, and it's obviously some sort of bit mask - don't ask me what each bit means, coz I ain't found that out yet!
One other thing - the "Duration" key seems to be the length of time (in minutes) you want the notification repeated for - as I said earlier, it keeps going even if you've read/deleted the message, so it might be prudent to set it to 5 minutes in the Start | Settings | Sounds & Notifications | Notifications screen (it's the "Flash light for" setting). Setting it to zero/ seems to keep it going forever (well, I got bored of listening to it after 15 minutes and did a soft reset to shut it up ). You can also change it to another value (mine's set to 2 at the moment) using the registry editor.
Bit of a long reply, hope this explains everything in a bit more detail
Cheers,
Mark.

Repeat notifications for text and email messages
Under HKCU/ControlPanel/Notifications find the following keys for Email and Text messages:
A877d65Axxxxxxx
A877d65Bxxxxxxx
Also find Key 15F11F90xxxx for reminders.
Copy the Options value from the Reminders key and overwrite the options value in both email and text message keys with this value (1073741853)
Once you do this, go to start - settings - sounds and notifications - notifications.
UNder events, select new email message OR new text message and you'll notice that th repeat option that was greyed out is now enabled and can be selected.

Read, read, read and read again......
I already posted that...about 8 hours ago.....if you'd bothered to read the thread, you would have known that.....
sigh

ok you're right, 1 unuseful post on 237 is acceptable... excuse me :emb:

Fair enough....apology accepted, you're free to go

Mark, Just got the "long reply"...
Outstanding! I thought it was probably a bit mask too.
I owe you a pint if your ever in Indiana.

WM6
Mark, I just realized you are running WM6.
I'm still using WM5 on a Wiz100.
Must be why these mods dont seem to work quite right for me.
Please excuse my momentary lapse of stupidity...

WM5 or WM6....shouldn't matter
@Padawan, I don't understand why these don't/aren't working with your WM5 device - I only upgraded to WM6 over the weekend and I had tried the registry changes before that (though I lost them after a soft reset and never bothered to put them back in) when my Hermes was running WM5.
I don't think the registry changes are the definitive answer - I'd like to find out what all the bits in the 0x4000001D value mean....that might help the solution be a little more elegant.
What is happening to you to make you say "these mods dont seem to work quite right for me" - do you get repeated notifications, or nothing at all??
Mark.

Testing...
Mark, I have not had time to do any real experimentation on what is working and what is not. I'll get some data in a couple of days.
For a little rant... I have tried apReminderPlus- joke, SuperAlert-joke, DontForget- didn't run, PhoneAlarm- bloated, slows my device. Why cant someone make a simple, small footprint, reminder config app that actually works? I love everything else about my Wiz100 except for the awful reminder/notifications disfunction. I would gladly pay for something that worked.
Rant over.
;-)

Don't Forget Does Work
But you have to use a small WAV file. I tried using a ring wav for it and it freaked out. When I used an Alarm1 -3 it's fine. It's working great.
What I don't understand is why do they have to Gray out the Repeat option thats already built into the OS? Seem's like that would be the easiest way for it to work.
Thanks, Allen

Original settings?
Mark, What were the original settings for the registry entries under:
HKCU/ControlPanel/Notifications find the following keys for Email and Text messages:
A877d65Axxxxxxx
A877d65Bxxxxxxx
Also find Key 15F11F90xxxx for reminders.
Copy the Options value from the Reminders key and overwrite the options value in both email and text message keys with this value (1073741853)
(Per your posting). I lost my notes. I thought it was "16". You were right... the notification seems to keep going after you have acknowledged it or dismissed it. Its a little annoying.
Anyway, I found this and am trying it out.
http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=6d01b99b3c3f6d40c466801ad6bee953&board=41.0
Found it on another posting on xda. Small footprint, lean app just for notifications.

Nice little app, will give it a try myself!
@Padawan,
Thanks for your response; as far as the original values for the Email/SMS registry keys go, I thought they were both set to "1" Theoretically, if you go back into the Sounds & Notifications applet, select the New email or New text event and turn off the repeat tick box, the values should revert to their default. I'll give that a try in a few minutes.....
EDIT: The above doesn't work!! What you need to do is to go into the registry keys again and rename "Options" to "XOptions" (or whatever). Then go back into Start|Settings|Sounds&Notifications again, select the Notifications tab and find the "New email" and "New text" events; you'll find that most of the options are un-ticked and that the repeat option is grayed out again - just tick the options you want and the "Options" key get re-created in the registry - mine was set to 13.
Hope this helps....post back with your experiences of the new app - I'd be interested to hear!
Cheers,
Mark.

alarmPal from Pocketmax
Mark, I have started a dialog with Penguin at pocketmax to add support for the PalmSMS and Emoze email inbox event. I'll keep you posted how it turns out. The "normal" sms and email event repeat notifications work fine so far with alarmPal. Give it a try and see what you think...
Pocketmax told be they'll try to get back to me by Monday.
Looks promising so far...
-Pad

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Can't read text messages on Dash 6.1 - Only Header

I searched all the forums about this issue but all I can find is things dealing with setting up text messaging. I have no network problems with data, text, or voice I just used the HTC network wizard.
Whenever I get a text message I can see the the beginning of the text in the selection screen but when I click on it the message is blank? So I can't read the whole text. I searched this Forum but couldn't find any people with similar problems. It seems to send them fine I just can't read the whole message for some strange reason. I have been clearing my memory and then flashing my Tmob Dash for the last three Kavana releases, they all exhibit this behavior. Any help appreciated with my problem.
What Rom are you using?
jdoggraz said:
What Rom are you using?
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Kavana 080408. The texts that I get show up on the main screen with a little bit of the text but when I click on them they don't show anything. I tried pressing all the buttons I can but it doesn't seem to do anything.
See is UNthreading them helps.
Uhm, just a silly guess here, but next time you're on the blank screen, click menu (right softkey) > 5 (Folders) > change to inbox, at least if it's not on inbox already. My friend changed his to sent and couldn't figure out why he couldn't see new ones either hehe
I looked everywhere in the messaging app and also the regular phone settings I don't see anything for unthreading. Also MMS can be viewed and sent normally. Just whenever I try to send or read a recieved text I have problems. When I try to send a text it doesn't let me type anything in at all. Not recipient and not the body of the text.
No I have already gone to all the folders. The inbox folder is where I can see the messages. You can read the begining of them, and who it is from but when you select one it doesn't show anything.
I had the same issue before, the problem disappeared after I uninstalled CE-Star (Chinese-reading problem).. do you have it installed?
Yianaki said:
I looked everywhere in the messaging app and also the regular phone settings I don't see anything for unthreading.
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Check in Accessibility Folder for unthreading.
DON'T Turn off the Damn active x
I finally fixed this problem.
I had a problem with WM 6.1 will only showing the headers and not allowing you to read the contents of : Text messages, Emails, MMS. This errors would also not allow you to write emails or text messages.
I thought Kavana's ROM had some big error with it but no one else was complaining. I downloaded Ricky's rom but same problem. So this weeked I fooled around with my phone believing it was some program I was installing. Even though I only install Google Maps, TCPMP, YGo, and Windows Live. I would install something then restart. I tried installing them one by one then it seemed to work but still after a time was becoming broken. I thought it had something to do with synching corrupted contact data. So I didn't synch but after a while it still came back.
This morning I finally realized that if you turn off active x it breaks the email and text which I assume both use IE active x The bad setting is.....
Main Settings Menu->IE Settings->Advanced Options -> NEVER TURN OFF ACTIVE X CONTROLS.
I think if Kavana, my personal hero, rolls another ROM you should take out this option.
Yianaki said:
I finally fixed this problem.
I had a problem with WM 6.1 will only showing the headers and not allowing you to read the contents of : Text messages, Emails, MMS. This errors would also not allow you to write emails or text messages.
I thought Kavana's ROM had some big error with it but no one else was complaining. I downloaded Ricky's rom but same problem. So this weeked I fooled around with my phone believing it was some program I was installing. Even though I only install Google Maps, TCPMP, YGo, and Windows Live. I would install something then restart. I tried installing them one by one then it seemed to work but still after a time was becoming broken. I thought it had something to do with synching corrupted contact data. So I didn't synch but after a while it still came back.
This morning I finally realized that if you turn off active x it breaks the email and text which I assume both use IE active x The bad setting is.....
Main Settings Menu->IE Settings->Advanced Options -> NEVER TURN OFF ACTIVE X CONTROLS.
I think if Kavana, my personal hero, rolls another ROM you should take out this option.
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I am glad to hear that you fixed and resolved your problem, and haha I hope that Kavana makes another Rom, he is awesome. But then again I got to thank Ricky for this rom to I love it.
hello i am having the exact same problem i checked all advice given i.e. make sure it is on inbox folder, check ie active x is enabled, and no change.
any advice
also when u do see the message headers like yianaki but when you select the message and then press a soft key it says"message cannot be signed and/or encrypted"
You need an encryption key for your email and you don't have it on your dash email, maybe. Just a guess. Is there documentation as to what you need to set up your email. What steps did you need to take to get your email on your home computer.
i actually have kavana 6.1 version 080408 so i just used the connection setup for US tmobile. and it was working previous to this problem. i did a hard reset now and its back to normal for now
SWEEEET!
Thanks "Y" you saved my life, I had the same problem. Keep Active x controllers checkmarked "On".
change IE option.
I had the same problem only can view the header of a msg, but can
t see the content. Here is what I did to solve it: go to IE\tools\option\general\encoding\change to Unicode
Cant Open Text Message.
Hi, I'm from Jamaica, I bought my HTC S621 from Digicel Jamaica [here]. I followed the instructions and installed WM6.1 80408 Kavana and it was totally amazing, I did it on Saturday and it worked great, everything was working GREAT. On Sunday I realized I was unable to open my text messages for viewing. When I click Text Message, the colour wheel shows and it starts to open then it closes. I did all the suggested this in this thread but nothing works, any more suggestions please, I really need to send text messages to my work crew and this is a major hindrance. I dont know how to soft or hard reset and would like to try that first, any other suggestion would be great. Thanks.
PLEASE dont laugh or throw tomatoes, I fixed it. In my attempt to load a Yahoo messenger app I installed an SMS application that was causing the issue. Problem solved, sorry to be a bother.
Yianaki said:
I finally fixed this problem.
I had a problem with WM 6.1 will only showing the headers and not allowing you to read the contents of : Text messages, Emails, MMS. This errors would also not allow you to write emails or text messages.
I thought Kavana's ROM had some big error with it but no one else was complaining. I downloaded Ricky's rom but same problem. So this weeked I fooled around with my phone believing it was some program I was installing. Even though I only install Google Maps, TCPMP, YGo, and Windows Live. I would install something then restart. I tried installing them one by one then it seemed to work but still after a time was becoming broken. I thought it had something to do with synching corrupted contact data. So I didn't synch but after a while it still came back.
This morning I finally realized that if you turn off active x it breaks the email and text which I assume both use IE active x The bad setting is.....
Main Settings Menu->IE Settings->Advanced Options -> NEVER TURN OFF ACTIVE X CONTROLS.
I think if Kavana, my personal hero, rolls another ROM you should take out this option.
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Just wanted to voice my agreement with Yianaki about "Never turn off Active X controls". The whole issue lies in the fact that the text messaging app is basically an Active X control. But I wanted to add the reminder that you need to make sure that the "Text Messages" app gets closed then reopened after you make the change, or it will not appear to work. (Use the task manager/celetask to close it)
I had the exact same problems with text messages: I could send an MMS, receive an SMS, but not send an SMS. When a text message came in, it showed up in the list as expected, but an attempt to view it resulted in a blank area with no useful menu options. I also couldn't send text (SMS) messages out because the create-new-SMS screen was blank and non-functional. It has nothing to do with the threaded vs unthreaded Accessibility settings for the phone, nor do you need to worry about configuring your WAP settings (GPRS and MMSC Settings); the "Connection Setup" app takes care of everything for T-Mobile perfectly. It's all an Active X issue.
PS: This is all on Ricky's v24 "Vanilla" ROM of WinMo 6.1 running on a T-Mobile Dash.

email being hidden/deleted after X days??

Hey, my boss and I just got the Rhodium and I am in charge of setting everything up to his wishes. However, we seemed to have run into something strange: the email on his phone seems to be hidden or deleted after a certain amount of days.
He is connecting using IMAP and all the mail is still on the server, but this morning his phone seemed to have hidden/deleted all mail from 3 days ago and before.
I can't find anything relating to these settings in the phone, can anyone help me with this problem?
You will need to alter the settings which can/should be found as:
Go to the email screen where you would read your mail. While there go through the following options:
Menu -> Tools -> Options -> [select the required account] -> send recieve schedule
From there the option is available in a drop down menu.
Hope that will work.
they aren't hidden, but deleted. But it's just a copy. the idea is that you don't need all the emails, only the recent on on your phone. it could (if you work with a lot of attachments) fill your memmory.
But waht music art1st said, you can said you want the email from the past 3 weeks or some other period.
Thanks a lot, I managed to find the settings now. I was a bit confused because the phone is in Dutch and I am only really used to running all my OS's in English so things were a bit difficult to find.
What you said worked perfectly though!
i had the same problem, and the solution was changing my configuration to IMAP not POP
emails
may be some one had this problem as well:
When you receive an Outlook e-mail message that was sent by using a russian version of Windows mobile, the name that appears in the From field may not appear correctly.
Email is ik, i read all and topick appears ok, but person name and address are shows like lots of letters: "njdnfjdnjfnd" if i press on it them it will show me the address.
On TP1 i didnt have this problem. but in TP2 i have it and i dont know how to fix it.
Thank you for help in advance.

Settings don't stick

I keep having to reset my phone preferences (such as my ring- I only want it to ring once) but it keeps resetting the settings to the default for the phone.
Is anyone else having this happen on their Sprint TP2?
***bump***
are you changing your ring settings through the touch flo 3d shell (settings>sound) or going through the traditional windows mobile settings (settings>sounds & notifications)?
My ring settings stick for both methods (or my phone says). I don't get calls enough for me to notice if settings stick.
maybe your ringtone is very long, so it sounds like it's ringing more then once?
I do experience a setting that I want to stick but doesn't. when you open phone, you choose menu > view. Default is "calls and contacts" but I only want "all calls". I can choose it and it'll filter, but when I close phone and reopen, it'll reset to "calls and contacts". =/
Thanks, Tone.
The ring is not long- it's an old fashioned phone ringer. The actual setting changes fron "Ring once" to "Ring."
I am setting it under the options on the dialer screen. I haave also gone through "Settings"; makes no difference.
So I recently hard reset my phone due to some other issues, but I tested if your problem again, and the settings are still fine on my end.
Out of curiosity, do you know what Manila version you have (along with what phone version)?
Mine is Sprint, Manila version 2.1.38416.1.
You can find the manila version with Reg Edit and go to "
HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila"
String Value "Version" tells you the Manila version.
If you don't have reg edit, or don't know how to do it, that's ok, just phone version should be enough. I've been discovering from customizing my phone and researching on XDA, that Manila may have different bugs depending on what Manila version you have (and most likely a different Manila version is attached with different carriers).
Same Manila version.
Has been hard reset twice, but the problem persists...
oh boo, that sucks. if you have a phone replacement/repair plan with sprint, I say go to them and tell them the issue. I always ***** at sprint with whatever problem that can't be solved. it's a defect in the software/hardware and if you have the replacement/repair plan, they won't charge anything for repairs. and if they can't repair it themselves, they'll send out a request for a 'new' phone replacement. sometimes its brand new, sometimes its refurbished. depends what they have in stock.
I can not get my phone to filter contacts by just device contacts it always defaults back to all contacts making me have dupes. Anyone else have this or know how to make the setting stick?
bonestock said:
I can not get my phone to filter contacts by just device contacts it always defaults back to all contacts making me have dupes. Anyone else have this or know how to make the setting stick?
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this is what I do (if you have contacts on your sim).
enter phone app (call button).
press "contacts" (left soft key) to open contacts (manila shell).
press "menu" (right soft key).
choose "view".
listed is "all", "contacts" and "sim". choose "contacts" to list only device stored contacts.
settings stick for me. but I don't have contacts on my sim card to verify. however, the setting itself doesn't change back.
if you go to contacts (windows app version), I believe you can't do this, because there is no option for it.
this is one reason why I think manila is kind of retarded. it just covers up windows mobile, but there are still multiple front ends / GUI for the same things.
no real help, but i set my phone to ring and vibrate, and every now and then it reverts to just ring!!!
I was having the same problem until I noticed
the Single Volume control. It is above the Phone
controls on the settings panel. I turned it off
and now the phone ring settings stay the way I
set them.
it's a known issue for Sprint TP2's. it will be fixed with ROM update to WM6.5. in the meantime, check out this thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=83378&highlight=jfrancisny&page=4. Post #36 fixed it for me.

Location & Time stamps

Hi All,
Searched high and low but can't find the answer and I'm a complete newb.
I have two small problems with my unlcoked AT&T HTC Tilt 2
1. After trying numerous radios 'my location' still does not update in the weather feature (currently using vers 4.48.25.20), just hangs then with USB I get 'connection error' message
2.Time stamps on SMS and MMS are way out of whack with when messages were actually sent or recieved.
Useing NRGZ8's ROM version 21.FEB.2010 WWE. I'm in AUST
Any help appreciated
Steve
1. Why are you getting a usb error when using weather?
2. Are your time zone and dst settings correct in settings-clocks and alarms?
If so then try this reg edit:
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\
set the value for TrustTimeZoneField to 0 (decimal)
If that key isn't there, then go ahead and create it and soft reset.
fone_fanatic said:
1. Why are you getting a usb error when using weather?
2. Are your time zone and dst settings correct in settings-clocks and alarms?
If so then try this reg edit:
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\
set the value for TrustTimeZoneField to 0 (decimal)
If that key isn't there, then go ahead and create it and soft reset.
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Thanks fone_fanatic,
1.No idea why I'm getting a 'connection error' when the USB is connected and I try to update location or even if/how it's related. I've since tried another Radio (4.49.25.05) and found in another thread that I need to have wifi enabled even if not connected...that seems to work..for now.
2. All settings are correct, looked at reg edit and seems that I need to create Trust time zone bit as you suggest...beyond me at the moment so I'll read more on reg edits.
thanks for your help
oh so you had the device plugged in via USB and were trying to update weather/location while its plugged in.
Yeah, activesync/device center will kill your data connection when connected to the device unless you change the settings.
as for reg edits. They're quite easy, not too much harm can be done, unless your just browsing through the registry and changing/deleting values that you don't know what they do.
Don't let it intimidate you.
a popular free registy editor is PHM registy Editor or Total Commander (which is also a powerful file explorer)
Whichever reg editor you use, simply browse to the folder (folders in the registry are called keys)
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\PhoneSetting\"
then create a new "Dword Value" and name it "TrustTimeZoneField" and give it a value of 0
exit it out, Soft Reset (generally a good idea to soft reset after editing the registry) and you should be golden.
Also there is a cab floating around, just can't find it at the moment, that adds the value for you, search for Message Time stamp and it you might find it.
best of luck
regedit worked for me, also try searching for "text message driving me crazy" it has the cab file i believe.

[Q] Spell Check woes

Hi, I have got a UK Touch Pro 2 branded Vodafone but it has the latest standard HTC WM 6.5 ROM installed (after Hard SPL).
I have installed TomTom and fixed the BTTrayCE error that created and also patched the clock which annoyingly wants to always show a time 1 hour and 2 mins behind, before flipping down like a 70s alarm clock to the correct time. I’m sure the programmer thought this was fantastic, but it’s just annoying and pointless! (/rant).
My problem is that I can’t find the spell checker. On my older XDA phones and my Touch Pro 1, in text messaging after typing a message, I just did Menu --> Spell check. It even allowed me to add words which it stored in the custom.dic file which I have been carrying from device to device as I upgraded phones.
However, even using the ‘proper’ text messing in Messages-->All Messages --> new message, when I click on the menu button all I get is “Add Recipient, Insert >, Quick Text, Save as Draft and Discard”. There is no spell check option!
The Vodaphone ROM which was slow and full of bloatware and incorrect settings for my network did have a spell check under menu – as did all the previous versions of WM.
I have tried enabling the XT9 feature and it does the XT9 thing of suggesting words and selecting them when you press space. This is quite rubbish for two reasons, it doesn’t auto correct i to I and you have to watch each word carefully, because if you type “hell” it might autocorrect it to “he’ll” depending on what you last chose. This results in having to go back and change about 5 - 10% of words, which is really annoying.
I have fiddled with the XT9 settings under Start/settings/all settings/personal/input/options and the only selectable input method is “Touch Input” although the hardware keyboard works and the options don’t seem to make much of a difference.
I have been searching for 4 hours now and hope that you might be able to help, please!!
Does anyone have a similar problem? Does anyone know if the standard HTC ROM should have a spell checker or not?

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