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Back when I had the base Cingular WM5 rom on my phone I was able to talk on the phone and have my data connection going at the same time. Since upgrading to WM6, XDA Live .20 and Black 2.0 I have not been able to get that feature back. To make a call it has to disconnect me. Then once I get off the phone call the data connection connects again. I tried the Allways On option in HTweakC that came with the WM6 releases but that doesn't appear to be what I am looking for. Does anyone else notice this or have a fix?
My device maintains a data connection whilst I am on voice calls. I receive emails fine whilst talking. Its on Black 2.0
KanosWRX said:
Does anyone else notice this or have a fix?
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yes.. try your phone and data in a 3G area... voice and data only works in 3G not edge......
I have tried it in a 3G area, right by my work I have 4 bars of 3G. But everytime I try to call or get a call it always closes the data connection.
try using bandswitch and manually fixing the phone to 3G only.. just to make sure its really on 3G and not secretly on Edge..
When I select the WCDMA Network I get the 3G Icon, when I select the GSM Network I get the E Icon. So I think it knows the difference between 3G and E just fine. I leave the "band" setting set to Auto.
BTW I am using radio rom 1.38.00.10 now, but even when I had the factory 1.16.00.00 I still had this problem with WM6. It only seemed to work with WM5. Another strange thing, in the phone app it says UMTS Cingular, just another sign it is actually using UMTS (3G).
Its just so annoying if I am online doing anything, slingbox, browsing the web, then when I want to make a call, it usually fails the first time while it disconnects then it goes through
Another odd thing probably just part of the new radio rom, when online and it starts to load data it switches to an H icon, I guess for HPDSA or whatever that abbreviation is.
Are you sure its really closing the data connection? Ignore the icons. Send yourself some emails and see if they arrive whilst on voicecall.
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When I select the WCDMA Network I get the 3G Icon, when I select the GSM Network I get the E Icon. So I think it knows the difference between 3G and E just fine. I leave the "band" setting set to Auto.
BTW I am using radio rom 1.38.00.10 now, but even when I had the factory 1.16.00.00 I still had this problem with WM6. It only seemed to work with WM5. Another strange thing, in the phone app it says UMTS Cingular, just another sign it is actually using UMTS (3G).
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i was saying to do this as a test, just to make sure the phone wasnt doing something funny... just some basic troubleshooting to help find the problem...
kinda like if your car wont start.. there are different problems that could cause it, maybe its out of gas, maybe the fuel filter is clogged, maybe the battery is dead.. different things can cause similiar problems, its better to eliminate all possibilities
I tested it this morning, data and voice works fine at the same time. Called voicemail and then opened up IE and was able to load several pages while on the call.
Edit, where are you located? Is it possible there is a problem with the network there? Try downgrading back to the Cingular software and see if that works.
Shogunmark, I figured thats what you were getting at, and I tried all the options I could that would give me a connection to the network, but I still couldn't do data and telephone at the same time. Everytime I was connected online then went to place a data call it would have to disconnect me first. I tried doing a phone call then connecting online, but nothing would load.
I guess I could try going back to WM5, but I have hard spl 1.4 on so I gotta do a little rom editing of the cingular rom to get WM5 back I guess. didn't realize it was that complicated to go back to factory after installing hard spl.
Im surprised no one else has this issue. Its been like this for me pretty much as long as I have had WM6, so I doubt its the cingular network.
KanosWRX said:
Shogunmark, I figured thats what you were getting at, and I tried all the options I could that would give me a connection to the network, but I still couldn't do data and telephone at the same time. Everytime I was connected online then went to place a data call it would have to disconnect me first. I tried doing a phone call then connecting online, but nothing would load.
I guess I could try going back to WM5, but I have hard spl 1.4 on so I gotta do a little rom editing of the cingular rom to get WM5 back I guess. didn't realize it was that complicated to go back to factory after installing hard spl.
Im surprised no one else has this issue. Its been like this for me pretty much as long as I have had WM6, so I doubt its the cingular network.
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not at all, just drop a WM5 NBH into a folder with CustomRUU and use autodetect. it'll flash quite happily
How would I take the HTC Cingular rom (found here, http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html) and get the WM5 NBH? Or will I have to use another WM5 version?
Just chiming in to say I don't have this problem and I've used both those roms and still using WMXL 0.20 now and use data and calling all the time. I am using the same radio ROM as you now too and it still works ok.
What apps do you have installed? anything that would end the data connection for some reason? Maybe put a list of apps and customisations you've made since installing the WM6 rom you have?
You could also try it with a blank WM6 rom, manually add the data connection settings and try and see if that works? Just to eliminate 3rd party apps and thing's you've changed.
The only other similar thing i can think of is I do remember there was an issue where data would disconnect when changing between 3G and EDGE. I don't remember who had this problem or why but it could be related.
Let us know how it goes?
Maz
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This would be great to add to the bug tracker website when I finish it.
http://maz.net.au/
KanosWRX said:
How would I take the HTC Cingular rom (found here, http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html) and get the WM5 NBH? Or will I have to use another WM5 version?
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Use this guide to go back to the Cingular ROM.
http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/Downgrade/index.html
Here are the apps I have
Resco File Explorer
Core Media Player
Slingbox
Don't run to many apps on my ppc as you can see. I mainly just use it to stream media from home (orb, slingbox), and internet connection sharing. I'll probably find some time tonight to revert back to WM5 and let you know what I find.
Well I just flashed back to the cingular rom, and guess what it's working again, can talk on the phone and be on the internet at the same time. So weird. well I guess I will try going back to Black 2.0 and see what happens.
Kanos,
Your problem is definitely not WM6. As in WM5, I can concurrently browse the internet during a voice call. As Mark said, there may be other issues specific to your case -- you'll have to methodically eliminate one-by-one... you'll have to decide if the process is really worth the time yourself.
FWIW:
Radio 1.34
HERMES 200 HT625 (in use since 7/4/2006)
Network: Manual (Taiwan UMTS)
Band: Auto/GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
Cheers
I believe it's not truly a problem with WM6, as people obviously have gotten it to work. I will definitely look into it more and keep you all updated on what I find. Right now I am still on WM5 but I will flash back to WM6, no apps installed, right after a fresh hard reset and see if it works or not for me.
I decided to try LVSW this time. Guess what it worked, I was able to both data and phone at the same time. Next test will be to install Black 2.0 again and see what happens.
My theory is this, I had XDALive .10 and maybe that version had this issue, then when I upgraded to .20 it carried over somehow and then carried over to black 2.0. Then once I went back to WM5 it reset everything. Don't ask me how, but obviously I have a lot more flashing to do to test this theory.
the imate site on wm5 proclaim this as a problem. when u r receiving data at a specific point in time u cannot receive a call.
the aust. telstra latest release says the upgrade fixes this.
to bypass going back to wm5 i just used the xda radio only upgrade to try and bypass. this was i believe only when receiving data and a call inwards simultaneously.
otherwise i have never had ur problem n likely a flash issue.
there is another i have noticed in recent releases is activesync now asks to allow data to be received when activesync this is a 4.5 change so perhaps looking for this setting may also help ur simultaneous data issue. just a guess but it might have been easy to not allow this when u upgraded to wmg which rwquired 4.5 to do this.
anyway goodluck with it.
Hi,
Just upgraded my rom, and for some reason, when i go the the orangeworld site in pie, it only displays a text version. No graphics or anything.
Any ideas?
all these fantastic genius's here, and no ideas?
I have noticed this too, and it must be something to do with what PIE reports itself as for User Agent.
The sites work fine with Opera, but cant see if that reports as Mozilla for whatever.
We need someone with WM5 to look....
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I have noticed this too, and it must be something to do with what PIE reports itself as for User Agent.
The sites work fine with Opera, but cant see if that reports as Mozilla for whatever.
We need someone with WM5 to look....
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I use PIE+ and tried all the user agents, but no change. Also noticed gprs/3g connection is real unstable! I'm in london, so definately a good coverage!
Erm....?
Any ideas?
What is the URL? Assume you have "show pictures" set etc ? I have black 3.1 on T mobile (well, virgin) and connection seems stable. This is on a m3100
Yeah I noticed this before too... I've only installed Black up to 3.0, so it the problem existed in at least version, maybe earlier.
http://wap.orange.co.uk for orange world. WEorks in opera fine. in PIE every other site i look at displays correctly, only orange so far is appearing as plain text.
As for the connection, i'm using the latest radio upgrade. to be honest, the connection was pants when i had the standard os installed, but then upgraded the radio, which improved it. But now i upgraded the os, the connection is worse than ever.
Also, Skype refuses to log in!
I'm pretty much ready to the sell piece of $h1t on ebay and get something else!!
So nobody able to help me?????
I don't use Orangeworld. Sorry. Have not had this issue. What apn are you using, the orangewap one or the orangeinternet one?
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I don't use Orangeworld. Sorry. Have not had this issue. What apn are you using, the orangewap one or the orangeinternet one?
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orangeinternet
crazyC said:
I don't use Orangeworld. Sorry. Have not had this issue. What apn are you using, the orangewap one or the orangeinternet one?
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I dont think its down to that in any case, coz it works fine with Opera.
yeah I know, just grasping at straws. I seem to remember that some of the orange sites only worked via the orangewap apn. never use them so dunno really.
Hi, sorry am unable to help as I have same on orangeworld, but would just recommend that before you sell, you try reverting the radio version to 1.38.0.10 or .01.
Makes it a whole different phone, no dropped signals, better battery.
gibster said:
Hi,
Just upgraded my rom, and for some reason, when i go the the orangeworld site in pie, it only displays a text version. No graphics or anything.
Any ideas?
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Yeah, no problems - orangeworld works fine in PIE for me WITH graphics (after I fixed it of course!!)
First I would recommend the latest Orange Radio ROM which is 1.38.00.01 - works best for Orange UK (this is not necessary for my fix to work though.)
See my cab file which installs the Orange UK MMS and internet settings as well as fixing the voicemail icon issue and the orangeworld graphics issue
If anyone needs it, I suppose I could create a cab file containing just the fix for orangeworld on PIE
Ok, here is the cab to just fix the Orangeworld site on Orange UK - it also fixes the voicemail icon since this is kinda essential
This should work on all WM6 ROMs on Orange UK
ps. you DO NOT need this file if you are using the cab file in the post above
Thanks alot Rabdo!!! I'll try the radio downgrade when i get home!!! Orange now works a treat!!!
Thanks!!
Just a quick question. What was the problem? It almost looked like it didn't pick up the css or something, but the strange thing was the fact every other site i looked at was fine. Would be nice to know exactly what was up with it.
rabdo! my wife can have your babies if you like!
radio fix and settings cab have sorted me right out!
keep getting the "H" symbol. did a quick test and was close to 500kbs! not sure how reliable that is, but just browsing now is a dream, and no connection dropped!
thanks a lot!
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Just a quick question. What was the problem? It almost looked like it didn't pick up the css or something, but the strange thing was the fact every other site i looked at was fine. Would be nice to know exactly what was up with it.
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I have a similar problem on 3 UK in that none of the icons on Planet 3 show up - is this cab something generic that might fix my problem? My phone is working nice and smoothly and the moment so don't want to install it just in case.....
Anyone know how to turn the GPRS off so that it never comes on?
What you need is this ......... creates an icon called No Data, with it you can toggle on and off your GPRS, I've been using for a while and it is excellent, stops GPRS connections altogether until you want it...
Activesync it somewhere on your orbit and then click on it within File Explorer
Ah! Stew! Saviour! A million thanks... exactly what I was looking for...
Why?
Hi
Why turn GPS totally off? does it use more battery when your not using it?
MicTh
Hi there MicTh...
I'm with O2 and their data tarrifs are somewhat expensive.
I use wifi a lot so don't need GPRS. There has been the odd occasion where I've lost wifi signal and the phone started connecting with GPRS...
The above program put a stop to this!
SG
Ohhh.. stupid me :O)
I thought u were talkin about turning GPS off.... My bad
thanks i have also been looking for app like this
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Anyone know how to turn the GPRS off so that it never comes on?
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This can be done easily by:
Settings->Connections->Connections->Advanced->Select Networks->(in the first ComboBox) select "My Work Network" and click OK
No GPRS does it much simpler, simply toggling between on and off....GPRS can sometimes connect on demand, the phones demand not yours when receiving messages or when Quick GOS has become outdated, NO GPRS is the simplest solution I've found.......
Thanks - I've installed this - one question
I have disabled Mobile Web and O2 Active
Will I still receive MMS messages ???
Hays
hays said:
Thanks - I've installed this - one question
I have disabled Mobile Web and O2 Active
Will I still receive MMS messages ???
Hays
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No, MMS is sent and received over O2 Active which is WAP.
where do i copy files to
im new to orbit could you tell me where i place the files please
Copy it to you memory card and run the program. It will install itself.
thanks
thanks for your help ive got it sorted
now ive installed it and i click on the nodata icon it shows gprs as deactivated but if im usin wifii it says connecting to gprs is that normal or have i done something wrong.
also if it says connecting to gprs while nodata is installed does it still run up the bill,orbit is all new to me so im still trying to find my way around it im used to normal phone.
Hi,
just a question on this wifi-gprs. Is there a way to include a priority on one of the two?
I would like my phone to connect through wifi is it finds free or known connections, otherwise it should use wifi.
Anybody know of a setting to get this done?
Patrick
I have a Hermes and I can stop my GPRS connection instantly.
Please try this (also on other HTC models)...
When you still have a GPRS connection press and hold down the hangup button for 3 to 6 secs. (the red phone you use the end a phonecall) until the little GPRS icon disappears.
GPRS as a service will stay available.
Hi.
I'm sorry but I am having a noobie moment.
I have transferred the 3 NOGPRS files into My Music (cos I couldn't think of anywhere else to put it) and clicked on the "setup" file which opens revealing lines of code. But that's it, how do I install it? Where do I find the icon?
Sorry, this might seem basic to you but it is very complicated and difficult to understand for me.
Garneth said:
Hi.
I'm sorry but I am having a noobie moment.
I have transferred the 3 NOGPRS files into My Music (cos I couldn't think of anywhere else to put it) and clicked on the "setup" file which opens revealing lines of code. But that's it, how do I install it? Where do I find the icon?
Sorry, this might seem basic to you but it is very complicated and difficult to understand for me.
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u went one step too far.
just extract the NOGPRS.cab to your device,
then take your device and click on the .cab file!
Icefeldt said:
u went one step too far.
just extract the NOGPRS.cab to your device,
then take your device and click on the .cab file!
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You Sir, are a star! Thank you. Installed and running. <beer>
I have just added TNT's 6.1 rom but when I install TomTom 6, I can't get Plus services working.
Checked the username/password/device ID, reset the device on tt.com but it seems to bomb out with network error and not get off the hermes
I have the 6.0.030 version of TT
Any suggestions?
I'm having the same problem. Anyone have any ideas, could it be something on the SD card for the TomTom that needs to be changed or removed?
check to make sure your connections are configured properly. I was having issues with Pay's 6.1 ROM and I found that the 'ISP' connection wasn't working. I had to change the server in the ISP connection settings.
l3it3r said:
check to make sure your connections are configured properly. I was having issues with Pay's 6.1 ROM and I found that the 'ISP' connection wasn't working. I had to change the server in the ISP connection settings.
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All my other data stuff works so I don't think that's it.
l3it3r said:
check to make sure your connections are configured properly. I was having issues with Pay's 6.1 ROM and I found that the 'ISP' connection wasn't working. I had to change the server in the ISP connection settings.
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This is acting more like there is a method of connection being used by TT that is no longer there with 6.1
As above, everything else about data (email, IE etc) all work fine
I am running Dr. Faria Clean 6.1 and I just added Nav 6 today (still waiting for my BT GPS). I was able to download some new voices via Plus today without any issues. I also downloaded a new color scheme. I am on the AT&T network. I hope this helps.
Hmm, interesting. I ran Pay's 6.1 and ran into the same problem. I also ran Dr. Fari's full ROM and had the same thing as well. I'll see if I have time today to download and load the Dr. Faria Clean and see what happens.
Did you try to start IE and surf to a page to make sure data connection was working before starting tomtom?
I know some software doesn't seem to be able initiate data connection and will only work if it is already available.
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Did you try to start IE and surf to a page to make sure data connection was working before starting tomtom?
I know some software doesn't seem to be able initiate data connection and will only work if it is already available.
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That's not it. Everything else works fine. I was actually streaming internet radio stations when I tried to do it so it's not it.
One more clue.....
Looks like there is some values not being set correctly for connections on AT&T
In the case of the TNT 6.1 rom, it would seem that some apps were defaulting to "The Internet" not Media Net for the connection and not working.
So it would seem that TT might be defaulting to a value that some ROMs are not setting correctly
If someone could tell me where to check my settings I would be more than willing to post them. I would be curious if you could get it to work with faria's clean ROM though. It seems to work great for me.
ricrellim said:
If someone could tell me where to check my settings I would be more than willing to post them. I would be curious if you could get it to work with faria's clean ROM though. It seems to work great for me.
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tt and I did some more testing and ran the CINGULAR WAP cab that I keep for instances such as these. It fixed the problems with some of the applications that weren't connecting to the data network (MobiTV, XMRadio), but Slingplayer and TomTom both had troubles. The funny thing was that when it went to connect it kept trying to connect via the ISP even when MediaNET was selected for both options. Something is definitely not set correctly on TNT 6.1 so I'm pretty convinced that it's a TNT problem and not a 6.1 problem. I've posted the Cingular WAP settings cab for ease of use.
Problem solved......
The problem turns out to be that the Connection Config added an AT&T proxy server.
Delete the proxy server and it all starts working ok
I had MediaNet and 'My ISP' I simply changed the 'My ISP' server to match the one from MediaNet. Everything works. XM, MobiTv, TT6, Google, MS Live, Youtube, etc..
Hello All,
First of all, I'm sorry if I open new thread. I already tried to search similar problem here but could find anything. Btw, I'm still new to Windows Mobile platform.
I've got problem with GPRS.
First GPRS connection is very slow (compared to after Hard reset), and after connected, Internet Explorer shows "Locating..." on status bar. Then message box appears "The page cannot be found. Check the name and try again."
All applications also could not access internet via GPRS.
I guess that DNS is not properly configured during connection.
I found two workaround solutions currently:
- Use Work connection, instead of ISP Internet (Setting -> Connection -> Advanced -> Select Network -> "Connect internet using "Work""). This solution is not really stable.
- Hard reset solve the problem. Last option which is very bad.
- Does anybody have similar problem? Does anybody know how to fix?
- How to find like "ipconfig" in Windows?
If somebody knows link / reference with similar problem, please kindly provide it.
I would really appreciate it. Thanks!
Best regards,
TwoAce
ROM: FInixNOver 3.1.1 -> Wow ROM!
Radio: 1.38.00.11
goto start-settings- tab connections - wireless lan
then goto tab power mode, and put slider to "best performance"
press ok.
it works for me.
Hello stormyb,
May I know what is the correlation between GPRS and Wireless LAN?
Do you also have problem with not working ISP Internet connection?
Thanks.
Best regards,
TwoAce
Have you tried to re-run the Network Wizard to see if it will rebuild your settings for you? I've had a few occasions when I've needed to do this, and it sets things straight.
I don't see the correlation between the Wi-Fi and GPRS either, but stormyb might know something we don't.
I get negative result on what stormyb suggested.
Thanks a lot for your input!
SuperSport, I already tried, too before and get negative result.
Thanks for your input.
This is what I did:
1. Remove All Connections setting (both Internet and Work).
2. "Enable Auto Configuration" on Connection Setup
3. Shutdown
4. Turn on and receive notification about empty connection.
5. Create manually Internet setting on Connections (I created manually because Ukraine is not on the list of Connection Setup.
6. Check via Internet Explorer and receive negative result
7. Workaround solution -> Create manually Work setting on Connection and redirect all connection to Work. Works perfectly!
Did I miss something here?
I wonder how to check network configuration (like ipconfig in Windows desktop).
Best regards,
TwoAce
Btw, I just read some articles.
Is HTC Connection Setup the same as Network Wizard?
Best regards,
TwoAce
twoace said:
Btw, I just read some articles.
Is HTC Connection Setup the same as Network Wizard?
Best regards,
TwoAce
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As far as I know, they do the same thing, but Network Wizard is older. I have to use the HTC Network Wizard to get the correct settings for my network. HTC Connection Setup does not work for me. I just checked HTC Network Wizard, and found it has WellCOM listed under Ukraine. Is that your network? If so, you might try installing Network Wizard and see if that helps. It can be uninstalled if it's no good.
Attached below: NetworkWizard.cab
sorry my mistake, i thought you were talking about wireless lan,... but for that you have to do what i typed before.
gprs just works fine by me. i used the connection wizzard which came with the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364972
like the one above here from supersport.
stormyb said:
sorry my mistake, i thought you were talking about wireless lan,...
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No problem, I was really hoping you had a new trick up your sleeve that we didn't know about.
I'm with MTS / UMC provider.
My current HTC Connection Setup also has Welcomm listed under Ukraine.
I'm still lucky that I have workaround solution. If not, I'm already crazy.
Thanks SuperSport and stormyb! If you have any idea later, please let me know.
I really appreciate for your reply.
Best regards,
TwoAce
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No problem, I was really hoping you had a new trick up your sleeve that we didn't know about.
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nope, sorry, i am not a genius....
i'm more reading this forum and learning instead of giving my knowledge. everything i wanted to know is on this forum....
so i spent much time searching.....i need a new search button...
BTW: Twoace: i see You use: Radio: 1.38.00.11
maybe if you upgrade your radio rom ?
You can find radiorom here:
http://trinityguides.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=38&Itemid=66
Yes, I know I'm using 1.38.00.11.
Among 3 of 4 Radio version, unfortunately only 1.38.00.11 works with USSD support (e.g. *101# to check balance).
I haven't tried 1.46.00.11. Will try it in the weekend and report.
Best regards,
TwoAce