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Orange UK Only - What's Best Radio with WM6?

Could I please be so greedy as to have a Orange-UK only thread?
I am been reading and searching in earnest to see what other peoples experiences are with the various Radio ROMs. It seems most people are happy with 1.38.00.10, although seems to be a few instances of people sticking with older versions because of battery life/drop outs/data freezes. But I am unable to establish what other people are experiencing in the UK on Orange's network.
I am well familiar with the Radio ROM 1.38 + WM6 - good or bad? thread, but not many people in there commenting on Orange UK.
If you are on Orange UK, please can you share you experiences here?
My own experience has been thus.
Before upgrading to WM6, was on stock M3100, which had Radio 1.06 I beleive. This worked flawlessy with push email (Exch 2003), and never had any problems at all with it. This was also the case when I upgraded to LVSW 20070315, leaving Radio Rom as was.
Then I upgraded to Black 2.0 last week, and did the Radio to 1.34 with it. I didnt notice any problems at first, or rather didnt take much notice of not getting email notifications whilst at work. But on Friday I realised the Data connections were freezing.
I have tried going to 1.38.00.10, to 1.35, back to 1.06, even 1.27. Have also tried going back to LVSW 20070315, and am now on LVSW 20070408
I have narrowed it all down to the "common" problem in swicthing between GSM and 3G. At home I seem to be between 3 transmitters, and swicthing is common. Hence the problems I was having Friday.
The Excellent commmgrpro has helped here. Also Bandswitch.
Anyway, with Phone set to GSM only I have no problems. Odd thing is, driving to Sheffield and back yesterday (dont mention the football!!), with phoen set to Auto, I had no problems at all.
Yet at home, and at work, on auto the data connection freezes.
So.... Whats everyone else using on Orange?

i've been using rom 3.23.0.2 with radio 1.38.00.10 on a spv m3100. this device is been freezing like you described in your post, thing is, it's become unuseable since you have to reboot after the freeze and it happens almost continiously... driving me insane.
if anyone knows of a way how to get back wm5, i'd appreciate it!
freben

When I upgraded a while ago I was wondering the same thing. The only negatives re 1.38 at the time seemed to come from orange UK customers so I went for the 1.27 radio and it seems fine.
Have not yet stepped up further, and at the moment, see no reason to.
Especially as I can even get the H now and then. (If it aint broke...)

@Phil, I've "gone black" (v 2.0) with Radio 1.38.00.10 - only since Saturday, so it may be too early to tell. I've got a push email account with Mail2Web, which I don't tend to use that regularly - it's good for aggregating lots of mail stuff when I go away on business, but my data package ain't up to much (don't get me started ) so I only switch it on when required.
Since installing the new ROM/Radio/SPL, my M3100 seems to be much better than it was prior to the update. I've reinstalled all my apps (apart from PPCProfilesPRO - I'll do that tonight) and the phone seems really stable - no more random lockups when taking it off charge and only a couple of "slowdowns" when ending calls, or if Activesync'ing....can't really complain if I'm honest
I'll keep an eye on things - and maybe switch on the Exchange push email for a couple of days - and I'll post again if the situation changes.
Cheers,
Mark.
PS - Message for @freben; read MrVanx's guide on downgrading to WM5 - see THIS POST for details of how to find it.

MrVanx kindly provides a guide here: http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/Downgrade/
Do please read very carefully before trying it

Yep...1.27 for me. No real radio problems to report.
Spent a couple of weeks with WMXL 2.0 and the last two weeks with Black 2.0. Both work fine with Orange with 3g (inc HSDPA) and voice. Direct push/web/pop email all fine.
One freeze this morning (first one in two weeks) but dont know if it was radio or os or an app?
Can;t compare with other radios but simply can say am happy with 1.27 (hence why I havent tried 1.38 etc)

Having no problems with set up in sig.
had the freezing with the stock set up.
Could/should we be more scientific here and use one of the many web2.0 survey sites to do a ROM/OS survey to find the right mix?
with a little effort we could then find the most reliable Radio ROM and view by Country/OS/carrier/etc.
just a suggestion..

Mark Crouch said:
but my data package ain't up to much (don't get me started ) so I only switch it on when required.
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@Mark,
try Orange World Browsing, 8ukp for unlimited data access 24/7
Give O a call on 150 and then the billing option, 4
Orange World Browsing is what is what the O rep told me it was listed as. I think one of the key points is the cost, it’s 6.81 exc VAT or 8 inc VAT, that’s the way to check you have the right package.
And you need to be on a 35ukp per month tarif or more to get it.
apologies for off topic post!!

(I was told it was Orange World Unlimited)

unwired4 said:
(I was told it was Orange World Unlimited)
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My bill confirms it as Orange World Browsing -although I too thought it was OWU.
Not sure if it is still so hard to get as it once was.

Sheep_Head - Well, I am definetely up for using a survey site - any recommendations?
I gave re-flashed my phone back to Black 2.0. Seems to be what most people are using here (IMHO). Have tried Radio 1.27, 1.38.00, and right back to 1.07.
With a totally clean device (i.e. straight after flashing), setting up the orangeinternet connection manually, the thing just wont connect to 3G. Only when I have Band set to GSM will it connect.
Jeez!
I am now in the process of going back to an Orange WM5 rom, to see if it makes any difference, (albeit the Romanian one, so will have to reset the internet connection).
Getting mildly frustrated now.

OK, I'm now back to Orange Radio version, and Orange WM5 -(Romanian!)
Entered Orange Internet settings. And have gained nothing. COnnects via GSM, but not via 3G.
Grrrrrr....
Spoke to Orange CS - no reported 3G problems in my area (well, what about me???).
What's the panel's opinion on sending a phone back to O with OliPro's bootloader on it? (well, and the Romanian Rom, but they prob wouldnt spot that).
I have insurance etc, so would get a replacement in advance....

philg2000 said:
OK, I'm now back to Orange Radio version, and Orange WM5 -(Romanian!)
Entered Orange Internet settings. And have gained nothing. COnnects via GSM, but not via 3G.
Grrrrrr....
Spoke to Orange CS - no reported 3G problems in my area (well, what about me???).
What's the panel's opinion on sending a phone back to O with OliPro's bootloader on it? (well, and the Romanian Rom, but they prob wouldnt spot that).
I have insurance etc, so would get a replacement in advance....
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dude as a last ditch attempt can you try out flashing LVSWs latest ROM?? Make sure your settings are good and post the results?? (it wont take long)

Hey guys - mega useful thread.
I 'thought' I had solved all of my woes and was feeling bloody smug with myself as I thought I had managed to keep the stupid questions down to a minimum. After reading this obviously not .
I am running Black v2.0 (happily) and the rest of the handset is as per my sig block but I have removed spb pocketbooks and replaced it with shell. I thought it was all working correctly but I am suffering the same connectivity issues as yourself (gprs and not 3G).
Also - and I have read the threads but still not working (was going to try again after a re-re-re build I still have no VM notifications.
Anything I can help with or test let me know and I will do what I can.
Bezman.

wberesford said:
Also - and I have read the threads but still not working (was going to try again after a re-re-re build I still have no VM notifications.
Bezman.
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I have just tested the voicemail fix again since my reinstall and the certificates cab plus installing the sms dll has always worked for me.
Are you having any specific issues with it?

CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions. I have attempted using Activesync but keep getting a response saying that the destination is in use. I have tried directly on the handset (not expecting it to work) and it doesn't and finally I tried by using Total Commander. Still no joy. I will keep going with it though as I was thinking about building again from fresh anyways, and then attempting the vm notification from clean.
Gonna wait out for black v2.5 before I do that however.
Cheers for getting back to me though!
Bezman.

mrvanx said:
dude as a last ditch attempt can you try out flashing LVSWs latest ROM?? Make sure your settings are good and post the results?? (it wont take long)
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Hmmm... I dont think that will achieve anything. I have had the latest LVSW ROM on there a while bad, with the same problem.
I'd really like to hear from anyone who has returned a flashed M3100 to Orange.

wberesford said:
CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions.
Bezman.
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The only way I have done this recently is using Resco File Explorer. You need to go into the Options menu to ensure you can see all files, then copy the sms_providers.dll into the \Windows directory. It warns you, but if you say yes it lets it happen. I have done this numerous times (have flashed my phone about 10 times recently!) without any problems!

wberesford said:
CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions. I have attempted using Activesync but keep getting a response saying that the destination is in use. I have tried directly on the handset (not expecting it to work) and it doesn't and finally I tried by using Total Commander. Still no joy. I will keep going with it though as I was thinking about building again from fresh anyways, and then attempting the vm notification from clean.
Gonna wait out for black v2.5 before I do that however.
Cheers for getting back to me though!
Bezman.
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First few times I did this, it just copied OK with the file explorer. Most recently tho it gave me the same error - so I went to the zip file on my ppc and told it to extract directly to the windows folder, said yes to overwrite and it did. Maybe worth a try. (install the certs first incase it makes a difference.)

SMS Providers CAB
To make my life easier I put the sms_providers.dll from WM5 into a CAB. To install make sure you've installed the sdk certificates (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35814&d=1174572298) first and then install this cab - a soft reset is requested at the end of installation and is required.
I've tested this on the latest LVSW ROM and it works perfectly, hopefully will overcome peoples issues with copying this file.

Anyone installed Black 3.0.1 on Vario II (T-Mobile)?

I'm currently running Black 2.5 (the T-MOB variant) and everything is fine.
But I'm tempted to upgrade to Black 3.x before I re-install all of my apps on my Vario (the speed improvement sounds good).
Has anyone with a Vario/T-Mobile installed Black 3.x? I see that there isn't (and will never be) a T-Mobile variant. What will I lose with a generic install? How hard is it to customise it for T-Mobile (UK)?
Thanks in anticipation.
Bobby

bobbyelliott said:
I'm currently running Black 2.5 (the T-MOB variant) and everything is fine.
But I'm tempted to upgrade to Black 3.x before I re-install all of my apps on my Vario (the speed improvement sounds good).
Has anyone with a Vario/T-Mobile installed Black 3.x? I see that there isn't (and will never be) a T-Mobile variant. What will I lose with a generic install? How hard is it to customise it for T-Mobile (UK)?
Thanks in anticipation.
Bobby
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Yes and it worked perfectly.

bobbyelliott said:
I'm currently running Black 2.5 (the T-MOB variant) and everything is fine.
But I'm tempted to upgrade to Black 3.x before I re-install all of my apps on my Vario (the speed improvement sounds good).
Has anyone with a Vario/T-Mobile installed Black 3.x? I see that there isn't (and will never be) a T-Mobile variant. What will I lose with a generic install? How hard is it to customise it for T-Mobile (UK)?
Thanks in anticipation.
Bobby
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Its fairly easy, all you really need are the internet and mms settings, look for a thread with operator settings in the title and find a cab file called t-mobile uk fixed.
Just drop it on to a storage card and run it whenever you do a hard reset or flash a new rom version.
Cant see why you would need the other t-mob customaizations as they mostly suck eggs.
Edit:cab file attached below

Here's the cab
Just drag to your Vario and run it.

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Its fairly easy,
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Thanks Chris.
Let me get this right. Upgrade to Black 3.x. Copy CAB to device. Run CAB. Voila? This sets everything I need?
I agree most of the T-Mobile extras are crap but I need the settings for Internet/GPRS/MMS/SMS etc.
Cheers.

yes, working fine here, all connection settings set manually.

bobbyelliott said:
Thanks Chris.
Let me get this right. Upgrade to Black 3.x. Copy CAB to device. Run CAB. Voila? This sets everything I need?
I agree most of the T-Mobile extras are crap but I need the settings for Internet/GPRS/MMS/SMS etc.
Cheers.
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Yep. I actually have a directory setup on my sd card called rebuilds with the cabs I need to reset my ppc up after flash/hard reset. Generally takes me about half an hour now to set up everything, including restores of pim records

chrisjasper said:
Generally takes me about half an hour now to set up everything, including restores of pim records
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I'm with Orange and my flashing routine now is:
1) flash new rom
2) run pimping changes
3) manually enter gprs and mms settings
4) sync with 4smartphone exchange server
5) run smsproviders cab off Storage card (to sort voicemail)
6) install spb pocket plus and customise today launchers
7) set up two pop mail accounts
8) sign in and configure windows live messenger
Got it down to about 15 minutes now (but it does help that exchange server syncing is so damn quick.)

I tend to install things like Reader that like a soft reset so it takes me a little longer.

sinmae said:
yes, working fine here, all connection settings set manually.
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Is it as fast as people say? Did you notice a speed improvement when you installed it?

MDA Vario II works with Black 3.01, what about rSAP?
Hi there,
Just as it has already been mentioned earlier (upgrade to 3.01 on T-Mobile MDA Vario II). I took the plunge today and installed version 3.01 straight from WM5. I was initially a bit apprehensive being my first update since I got the phone and I can confirm that it works well. I simply had to add the 3G and MMS settings back or just use the T-Mobile cab to get everything back to normal.
Speed actually seems faster than before. The question I have got now is what happened to the rSAP (Remote Simm Access Profile) as I need to ensure that I can use my phone in my "troublesome" Mercedes CLS. Never was able to pair it with the car so i'll be testing it tonight. I just noticed that the rSAP seems to be missing.
Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
Vido.

It works a treat, however when i goto use Live Messenger it cannot connect and doesn't present me with a login form like it did with Black 2.0... Is anyone else having trouble with this? I'm using a Vario II, i've tried connecting over 3G, Wireless and through ActiveSync, all with no joy,

The service may be down, mine works without any hitch. Then again, I haven't and never do install any other third party software.

bobbyelliott said:
I'm currently running Black 2.5 (the T-MOB variant) and everything is fine.
But I'm tempted to upgrade to Black 3.x before I re-install all of my apps on my Vario (the speed improvement sounds good).
Has anyone with a Vario/T-Mobile installed Black 3.x? I see that there isn't (and will never be) a T-Mobile variant. What will I lose with a generic install? How hard is it to customise it for T-Mobile (UK)?
Thanks in anticipation.
Bobby
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All working ok for me, web'n'walk back working and exchange server sync'd ok. TomTom OK. Calls OK...
Only problem I have is connecting to a WPA2 WLAN.... maybe me.... maybe the Black 3.0 (2.5 worked ok). Need to spend sometime looking this evening.
Justin

TomTom
Justin, I take it you have the app TomTom on your mobile, rather than being a 910 or similar?
I took one of the other WM6 ROMs and the DUN (data transfer) has been removed so I can only use it as a hands free device and not to update traffic over GPRS.

vido said:
Hi there,
Just as it has already been mentioned earlier (upgrade to 3.01 on T-Mobile MDA Vario II). I took the plunge today and installed version 3.01 straight from WM5. I was initially a bit apprehensive being my first update since I got the phone and I can confirm that it works well. I simply had to add the 3G and MMS settings back or just use the T-Mobile cab to get everything back to normal.
Speed actually seems faster than before. The question I have got now is what happened to the rSAP (Remote Simm Access Profile) as I need to ensure that I can use my phone in my "troublesome" Mercedes CLS. Never was able to pair it with the car so i'll be testing it tonight. I just noticed that the rSAP seems to be missing.
Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
Vido.
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I gave rSAP a try with an earlier black build, and I'm sorry to tell you that it behaved exactly the same as WM5 with the Merc car kit - i.e. just doesn't work (even once you've hacked the stack to make the Hermes look like a phone). If you get anywhere, it would be great to hear, but I'm afraid I think the Merc kit is just toooo limited in what it supports.

vido said:
I took the plunge today and installed version 3.01 straight from WM5. I was initially a bit apprehensive being my first update since I got the phone and I can confirm that it works well. I simply had to add the 3G and MMS settings back or just use the T-Mobile cab to get everything back to normal.
Vido.
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Hi Vido.
I hope you read the extensive guides mr Vanx has done on upgrading. If not, consider this a stern warning to do so *now* (link in my sig)
Your post suggests that you did not put on the olipro bootloader which means you are taking a risk flashing any OS rom onto your phone - if something went wrong, you would brick your phone.
For you and anyone else reading this, please read Mr Vanx's guides and save yourself, and everyone else, the headache of trying to recover your phone as this stuff voids your warranty.
Cheers,
Smiffy.

ok guys im on tmobile usa and mms doesnt work at all on any of the new wm6 roms. do you guys suggest that i try the uk settings

Hi, you need to check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299023
If USA not on here go to your T-Mobile website and do the settings manualy or get them from tech support...
Then post in the above thread!
Martyn

Hi Smiffy/All,
I actually followed all the instructions regarding upgrading to WM6 by flashing all the instructions in Mr Vangs guideline and used the 1.40.olipro bootloader. I just didn't type in all the details because of space. What I meant was that this is my first attempt at upgrading to WM6 after reading all the instructions in this forum.
Like I said my phone still does not work with the Mercedes Bluetooth UHI which is a pain and one of the reasons why I performed the upgrade. The other thing I have just noticed is that my ohne now finds it difficult to connect to my wifi at home using simple WEP key. I was only able to connect to my wifi at work only once after which it doesn't connect anymore. Has anybody else encountered this problem or is it only me.
Last question, is it possible to have the VOIP (Sip) work with T-Mobile? it shows up as "Service Blocked" and I read it somewhere that this can be tweaked. does anyone have the settings for testing this?
Apart from that the Black edition 3.01 is really cool.
Regards,
Vido.

CRC 6.1 ROM issue with Telstra WAP site

HI, I am just starting out with the flashing of ROM's on my Telstra JasJam. I actually went to a Imate Ultimate 9502 and put the JasJam back in the box but after that failed and went back to Imate for repair, we all know how "quick" they are at repairs I pulled the JasJam out and went looking for a new 6.1 ROM for the JasJam.
I found CRC's ROM and flashed HardSPL before flashing, got CRC's 13.3 stable normal ROM on and all was going along great.
Issue I am having is when I go to the Telstra WAP site to access my Foxtel subscription I get a different telstra homepage. It is the old blue and white checker page that has icons down both sides. It is not the new homepage that has the icons with "free to browse" and "foxtel" tabs.
I installed the Telstra 5.5 cab and the My Place cab which didn't fix the issue. After a lot of looking around and reading I found the streaming URL for Foxtel and when I try to access it is says that my handset is not compat and to call Telstra.
It reminds me of the time back in WM5.0 when Foxtel first came out and the JasJam did not support it, it took an update to fix it.
So I am leaning towards a radio?? version issue maybe???
Can anybody help?
I PM'd CRC himself and he pointed me here.
Can anyone shed some light, had the same problems?
thanks in advance..........

I'm not sure of your exact issue, but it wouldn't be in the radio.
I'm guessing they might be using a proxy. My provider has a proxy to access their internal pages, and without it enabled it just never shows them. I'm on Cincinnati Bell.
Hopefully this will help you search, or someone using the same network will chime in.

Thanks for the reply.
Yeah Telstra do use a Proxy and you can set it either with their software package or via the network connections. I am doing this as without it you can't even get to the Telstra homepage.
Turn the proxy off and the Telstra homepage times out .....of course!!
But this is where my issue is, with the proxy on the homepage that loads is not the current one even though I am getting the http://wap.telstra.com/wap site via the "Telstra My Place"
Over night I flashed my spare JasJam, I purchased a JasJam off ebay for
"el-cheapo", its been abused but still works OK, and loaded the official WM6 on it. Put my SIM in and got straight to the telstra homepage where I can access the Foxtel website and the "free to browse" tab.
I can only assume that is has something to do with the radio.
Can somebody please explain the radio and how it works. I am struggling with this part as I am unable to find any good info on it.
cheers

The radio just handles the packets of information. It doesn't have anything to do with where the info comes from, or goes to.
Just like a different network card, or, network card firmware won't get you to a new web page.
I'm sure it's something to do with a network setting or proxy setting.
Hopefully someone on Telstra can chime in.

OK, so how do I understand 2 JasJam's with exactly the same settings via Proxy and network setup go to 2 different web pages?
I put WM6 on one and then insert my SIM, I get to the correct page when you browse the http://wap.telstra.com/wap and then I put CRC's ROM onto the other with WM6.1 and insert my SIM and then get to the incorrect site.
So I thought, as a wild guess, its the phone. So I did the opposite with flashing. I flashed the JasJam that had WM6 and was getting to the correct site with CRC's ROM and as I suspected I could not get to the correct site.
The error message tells me my phone is not compat with the service. I put the WM6 ROM onto the JasJam that could not get to the telstra WAP homepage and yep, it worked flawlessly.
It must be something to do with CRC's ROM, is there anyone else out there, PLEASE, that is on the NextG network and using CRC's 13.3 normal ROM and can get to the telstra WAP homepage that allows you access to Foxtel and the "free to browse" tabbed content???
Or anyone using one of CRC's ROM's, any version of WM6.1 that is working as it should?
Can anyone suggest a WM6.1 ROM that will work with Telstra Foxtel service?
Any help would be appreciated?
I know it all works on WM6.1 as I have, in the repair shop, a Ultimate 9502 that has no problems browsing the WAP site.
thanks again.........

Ahh, It might be something with the way the browser is reporting itself. That, I'm not sure how to fix. Might be able to use schaps advanced config to see what each of them are reporting, and try to make it match.

yeah I am unsure about that one. I installed Opera as well and get the same page.
This is definitely one for CRCinAU himself. I did PM him but he said to go to the forum. So far that hasn't been much help.
I searched for the other ROM you mentioned, schapp? I am not having much luck.
can you point me in the right direction for that, I'll give it a go and see what the differences are.
thanks for your replies. Seems that there are not many local users of the CRC 13.3 ROM on the Telstra network, or they don't use this feature and are unawares of it.
I ask again, if anybody can help with this one I would really appreciate it.
Can anyone tell me if they know of a WM6.1 ROM that is fully working on the Telstra NExtG network and able to use all the features provided by the "MyPlace" and WAP sites?
I cannot even look at any of the features on the WAP site, when you click on the icons to go to say, ringtones or movie info I get a web page error saying my hanset is not compatable. Very frustrating for such a lean, fast and app packed ROM!!!
cheers

Here is his xda dev post about it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151 but the download link seems to be broken or is down at the moment.
Here is my copy of advanced config http://www.filedropper.com/advancedconfigurationtoolv33
all kinds of settings in there, also, you should be able to load advanced config from crc's device update(should come in crc's rom).

I think you will find your answer Here you need to change registry setting for compatibilty issue
Regards

Thanks that fixed it. Exactly the issue.
Its funny I looked at that string before and tried a few different options but nothing changed. Knowing the exact string did it!!
Thanks to everyone who replied and thanks to CRCinAU for a very nice ROM, which is now working as I want it to.
cheers

Cannot connect with any browser, even though I have acces to th internet

(At&t's HTC Tilt 2 Unlocked, original ROM, win 6.5
)Guys, this is driving me nuts.
When I connect to the internet, via EDGE, both my browsers can't download data at all.
It's really weird.
I can send email on all of my accounts, use my facebook app, etc. It's just the browsers (IE and Opera) that are dead.
I have soft and hard reseted my device, and nothing changes.
When I'm WiFi, everything works Ok.
Any known issues about this?
Thanks,
Dan from Costa Rica
(as soon as I solve this, I'm planning on starting some serious mod of the phone... coming from an old HTC P4350, it's a huge step fwd).

perhaps, you have disabled the "proxy" - try enabling it.

My connection doesn't require a proxy... it's really weird, it was working OK a couple of days ago.

Shot it the dark, but look at Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Connections
Look at the Advanced tab and click on "Select Networks"
Make sure both drop-downs are set to use the correct connection. Not sure what it'll be called on yours, but on mine (T-Mobile) they are both set to "T-Mobile Data"
Also make sure your Wifi isn't on, but not connected to a network, when trying to browse. I find that if my wifi is on, but not connected, all browsers still try to use the wifi and fail.
Good luck,

notaliberal,
Thanks for the tip.
For some reason I had one of them set differently, BUT it's still dead.
Again, I'm pretty sure it's no the phone, since my emails work efforrlessly.
I'm pretty sure something happened with the config.
Damn, it's driving me crazy.

guys, Ok, this is driving me nuts.
I have discovered a couple of details that I think are important.
I have managed to make the BROWSERS work... but it's no a definite solution.
When I turn on the DATA CONNECTION, I was able to check emails, and use Facebook App with no problems at all.... but no browsers worked.
I found out that if i turn on my WiFi, but DO NOT connect to any network, now the browsers work perfectly. This gives me like 10-30 minutes of my browsers to work, but after that time I loose acces to data again.
I have to turn on the Wifi, and turn it off, to gain access again.
It's so confusing and weird, because I haven't read anything like this in the whole forum.
It seem that it's not a hardware thing, but a firmware or software issue... or am I missing something here?
Maybe this will help:
At&T Tilt 2 Original ROM
When turned on:
B 80
R 4.48.25.20
G 61.39tc.25.30h
D 1.59.67150

I had a similar problem and it turned out the carrier had put a bar on my internet usage, from long ago without my consent... Funny thing was, I could access the weather, update time and emails with no problem from my old Hermes but once I got the rhodium I couldn't.
Might be your carrier doing funny things....

Ultramag, and by any chance do you know what should I do to solve this? or what did you do?
The problem is that I don't know anyone with another Tilt2 to check if it's the phone or what.
Tonight I'll be checking with my old HTC P4350 to see if I have any trouble conneting.
Thanks.
Neu

Are you using a Tilt2 with stock AT&T Rom on a non-AT&T network? If so, maybe the best solution would be to install a custom rom. The old AT&T network connections might be getting in the way of your carrier settings. If you don't want to flash a custom ROM, go to settings, Connections, Advanced (tab), Select Network, and check that the programs are being directed to your carrier's connection. Also check on your browsers that they are set to connect to Internet, and not Work Network or anything else.

Jose, yes, I'm using AT&T ROM on a non AT&T network.
I did as you said, on the Advance tab set BOTH to connect to my carriers settings, and I still have the same problem.
I trid to do the second thing yu asked me to do, but I don't know where to find those settings on my browsers (IE and Opera).
If I have to install a costum ROM, I'd like to try first a ROM that's really basic... maybe an official HTC 6.5, to start. Any one like this that you could recommend?

Had to contact the carrier. Got stuffed around a lot. Luckily for me I knew someone who worked in a store, they got in contact with the faults department and 3 weeks later it got fixed.... Was a major pain in the arse though...

I just saw on the HTC page, that there is a ROM that is newer than the version I'm using.
Mine is from 09/25/2009 according to the Device Info, and HTC has a version from 02/05/2010
It's REALLY driving me nuts, so I hope this thing solves the issue.

Neuralgia said:
Jose, yes, I'm using AT&T ROM on a non AT&T network.
I did as you said, on the Advance tab set BOTH to connect to my carriers settings, and I still have the same problem.
I trid to do the second thing yu asked me to do, but I don't know where to find those settings on my browsers (IE and Opera).
If I have to install a costum ROM, I'd like to try first a ROM that's really basic... maybe an official HTC 6.5, to start. Any one like this that you could recommend?
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A guy from India posted about a month or so with a similar problem, he had an unlocked T-mobile programed it with his carrier settings yet the browsers were not working, had to install a custom rom to solve it. I think some registry keys have the browsers going through different network settings. Have you tried using Skyfire, or Opera 10? Maybe a browser that didn't come with the phone will work.
Regarding custom roms, I've only used Energy's since I flashed my Tilt2, and they've worked great for me. If you want a clean rom, I've heard Da_G has one, and he's pretty well respected here. Just in case you're not aware, before installing a custom rom you have to install HardSPL and do some reading. Check the sticky threads in the roms sections. And Tilt2 phones need a CAB before they can be HardSPLed, check this page http://tilt2.blownfuze.org/.

Guys, I just updated my ROM wit the AT&T one, and the problem is still there.
I guess I'll have to install a costum ROM.
I'll follow the instructions from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
But they never mention any CAB before the HardSPL? :?
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Last dumb question:
Since I'll be testing new ROMS, once I HardSPL the phone and try a new ROM, i f I don't like it, I just have to flash a new ROM on top of the old one right? no more HardSPL? (aka HardSPL must only be done once?)
My main concern is that at first, I want a ROM as close to the original, but without all the AT&T crap.
Obviously, now I want something that solves this stupid problem with my browser, and now that someone in India had the same issue, I now it's not a matter of hardware.
Thanks.
Neu from Costa Rica
PS: Myphonw came both with Opera and IE. Actually Opera gives me much more trouble that IE with this issue. Unfortunately, now Skyfire only works on certain countries, and Costa Rica is definitely NOT one of them

It's not hardware or a ROM issue. Most likely that it'll be fine with a custom ROM, but I only use official At&t ROMs.
I had the same issue, as I don't use At&t as my network, and I fixed it. My IE and Opera, and other built-in phone services work fine.

Neuralgia said:
Guys, I just updated my ROM wit the AT&T one, and the problem is still there.
I guess I'll have to install a costum ROM.
I'll follow the instructions from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
But they never mention any CAB before the HardSPL? :?
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Last dumb question:
Since I'll be testing new ROMS, once I HardSPL the phone and try a new ROM, i f I don't like it, I just have to flash a new ROM on top of the old one right? no more HardSPL? (aka HardSPL must only be done once?)
My main concern is that at first, I want a ROM as close to the original, but without all the AT&T crap.
Obviously, now I want something that solves this stupid problem with my browser, and now that someone in India had the same issue, I now it's not a matter of hardware.
Thanks.
Neu from Costa Rica
PS: Myphonw came both with Opera and IE. Actually Opera gives me much more trouble that IE with this issue. Unfortunately, now Skyfire only works on certain countries, and Costa Rica is definitely NOT one of them
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The CAB before HardSPL is mentioned here: http://tilt2.blownfuze.org/
Some people have posted on Energy's thread saying they can't use HardSPL with a Tilt2, and they were told that a Cab is needed, I assume the one posted on that website. HardSPL is only needed once, after using it you can flash and reflash TP2 roms and radios as long as they are for GSM phones.
Using Task29 is recommended before flashing roms, some people claim that flashing a new rom might not clean everything from the previous one, which causes glitches. For safety purposes I've start doing that, but I've never had any trouble when Task29 was not available.
Regarding a rom close to AT&T stock, I can't help you with that, you'll have to look at the different ones available. Since AT&T just came with a new version it's likely that many chefs will use it as base, but how far they modify it will depend on each one.

Grahammm said:
It's not hardware or a ROM issue. Most likely that it'll be fine with a custom ROM, but I only use official At&t ROMs.
I had the same issue, as I don't use At&t as my network, and I fixed it. My IE and Opera, and other built-in phone services work fine.
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Graham, the question is HOW to fox it without a custom ROM.
I finally figured it out.
It seems that it's a PROXY issue.
Looking more into xda forums, I found out that there is a small program under START>Tools> Proxy Manager where you can Disable Proxy Settings.
Unfortunately, that ONLY fixes Internet Explorer.
Reading some more, you can fix Opera by entering on the address bar "opera:config" (without the ") in the proxy settings, remove the HTTP proxy and HTTPS proxy (leave blank).
The only problem is that this settings are removed in Opera with a soft reset.
the only way to change Opera settings permanently is to edit \Windows\Opera\opera.ini and set the Use HTTP and Use HTTPS proxy settings to 0, then soft reset.
Thanks to user Moltenfire (original post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5120862&postcount=3)
Thanks for all the help guys... Thanks to you, now, after all this, I'm decided to give the Simplicity ROM a try
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Edit: It seem that after Opera 9, which is the one that came with my Tilt2, the settigs changed through opera:config STAY even though you reset your device.
I realized this because I didn't install Total Commander yet, did quite a lot of reseting, and Opera is working perfectly... so is IE!
PS: Just in case, in Opera9 the settings are called "HTTP server=" and "HTTPS server=" and must be left BLANK... in case you need to edit the opera.ini

Whatsapp On Android Port?

Firstly I just want to say thank you to all the developers who are working hard on bringing us Android on our Touch Pro 2.
Basically I want to be able to use Android for the sole purpose of accessing "whatsapp," but whenever I go into the app and click on "accept" the user terms, it says it requires a mobile data network to access whatapp? I've tried this with wifi and 3g seperately and also with both of them combined. Have also tried a few different Android ports for the Rhodium and I get the same problem.
The strange thing is though is that this app worked with a kaiser port I was using before on my old phone.
Does anyone know of a solution? Thank you

Okay this is probably because I cant seem to get a 3g signal and only a gprs one. So instead, does anyone know a way to get 3g to work?

3G
3G works seems to work fine on just about every other rhodium out there. So it's probably something specific to your phone. What's your rhodium model#? What carrier's 3G are you trying to use it with? What android build are you using? What's the date of that build? And have you updated any of its components (kernel, rootfs, system.ext2, etc...) since?

F22 said:
3G works seems to work fine on just about every other rhodium out there. So it's probably something specific to your phone. What's your rhodium model#? What carrier's 3G are you trying to use it with? What android build are you using? What's the date of that build? And have you updated any of its components (kernel, rootfs, system.ext2, etc...) since?
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Thanks for your response. I'm unsure how to check what model this is but it is an unbranded UK Touch Pro 2 and I'm using it on the Vodafone UK network. On the Android startup screen I select the "Rhod100_uk." So I'm hoping this is the correct one for my model.
The Radio is 4.49.25.91 and I'm currently running Jackos latest SkrobPRO rom.
The Android build is the: ProjectAndroid2.2Froyo (11.22.10) and I havn't updated any of its components to my knowledge. I've also tried several other builds and seem to have the same problem, but my 3G connection is fine in WinMo.
Any suggestions on what I should do?
Much appreciated

fade2black101 said:
Thanks for your response. I'm unsure how to check what model this is but it is an unbranded UK Touch Pro 2 and I'm using it on the Vodafone UK network. On the Android startup screen I select the "Rhod100_uk." So I'm hoping this is the correct one for my model.
The Radio is 4.49.25.91 and I'm currently running Jackos latest SkrobPRO rom.
The Android build is the: ProjectAndroid2.2Froyo (11.22.10) and I havn't updated any of its components to my knowledge. I've also tried several other builds and seem to have the same problem, but my 3G connection is fine in WinMo.
Any suggestions on what I should do?
Much appreciated
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Your Rhodium model # can be found by popping off the battery cover, removing the battery and looking at what's written underneath.
I'd recommend that you update to the latest kernel, system.ext2 and rootfs. In particular, kernels built between 10/23 and 11/23 were known to have problems on Rhodium 100's which I suspect you may have.

fade2black101 said:
Thanks for your response. I'm unsure how to check what model this is but it is an unbranded UK Touch Pro 2 and I'm using it on the Vodafone UK network. On the Android startup screen I select the "Rhod100_uk." So I'm hoping this is the correct one for my model.
The Radio is 4.49.25.91 and I'm currently running Jackos latest SkrobPRO rom.
The Android build is the: ProjectAndroid2.2Froyo (11.22.10) and I havn't updated any of its components to my knowledge. I've also tried several other builds and seem to have the same problem, but my 3G connection is fine in WinMo.
Any suggestions on what I should do?
Much appreciated
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Did you check all the settings (I mean APN and maybe user pass) for Voda UK, both in WinMo and in Android?
For example, default APN for my carrier is correct for consumer, not for business. Have to set it manually.

sad0felix said:
Did you check all the settings (I mean APN and maybe user pass) for Voda UK, both in WinMo and in Android?
For example, default APN for my carrier is correct for consumer, not for business. Have to set it manually.
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This is good advice. It's possible that there may be an issue with the default APN setting. fade1black101, you may also want to talk to snalbansed and ask him if he's experienced a similar problem. He's using a rhod100 UK with Voda too. Things seem to be working for him.

I'm usually not the paranoid type, but I wouldn't want all of my text messages going thru some shady third party...
What's the advantage of using this app? Sorry, just curious.
Ah, I see. More for smartphone-to-smartphone messaging if you don't have a txt plan. Move along, nothing to see here

Lol thanks for all the replies.. Hopefully it'll help someone else with a similar problem. However, the solution was far more simple than I expected. Basically all I did was download an app from the Android market called "Any Cut"... From there you make a "New Shortcut" using "Activity." Then you select phone info and scroll down to the drop down list towards the bottom and select "WCDMA only".
This worked for me and forced a 3G connection, and I was then able to access whatsapp!