Folks,
Sorry if this is real basic stuff, but hey we all gotta start somewhere!!
Work is buying me a O2 Orbit for some development (actually buying 2) and I have just a handful of questions that I'd really appreciate an answer.
1) Is The Artemis 3300 the same name for the 02 Orbit? I'm 99.9% it is, but some big-headed person I work with is causing all sorts of grief saying the phone must be a genuine Artemis 3300 and the Orbit is a cut down version. True or false?
2) Is the GPS on it Magellan / Garmin compliant?
3) OK, touchy one this, I'm hearing great reports about Crossbow and want to know if 'flashing' the WM5 ROM that comes with the O2 Orbit is legal or not (don't worry, I'm not clean cut, just don't want to cause any problems with the boss!). And likewise, if I mess up the installation, is it easy to revert back to WM5?
In a nutshell, we've a dozon or so bespoke programs for SmartPhones, all developed on a SPV M3000. These SPV's are getting old now, cracked, chipped, damaged and the O2 Orbit looks perfect (especially as we're just doing GPS stuff, hence why I ask if it's Magellan / Garmin compliant).
Whilst WM5 is still widespread, naturally it would be an advantage to use the latest technology and to ensure compatibility (have one Orbit running WM5 and the other running WM6), but obviously need some roll-back if things go wrong.
Would really appreciate some feedback before I make a purchase.
Cheers.
Folks,
Sorry if this is real basic stuff, but hey we all gotta start somewhere!!
Work is buying me a O2 Orbit for some development (actually buying 2) and I have just a handful of questions that I'd really appreciate an answer.
1) Is The Artemis 3300 the same name for the 02 Orbit? I'm 99.9% it is, but some big-headed person I work with is causing all sorts of grief saying the phone must be a genuine Artemis 3300 and the Orbit is a cut down version. True or false?
No, the orbit is not a cut down version
2) Is the GPS on it Magellan / Garmin compliant?
Its a std Pocket PC serial emulated GPS feed. All pocket PC software that works with WM5 would work.
3) OK, touchy one this, I'm hearing great reports about Crossbow and want to know if 'flashing' the WM5 ROM that comes with the O2 Orbit is legal or not (don't worry, I'm not clean cut, just don't want to cause any problems with the boss!). And likewise, if I mess up the installation, is it easy to revert back to WM5?
O2 has not released an updated ROM for the Orbit, let alone an update to WM6 (crossbow). It is very unusual for providers to provide an update to a major version of Windows on a current model, so would assume this won't happen. Flashing an WM device with an unlicensed OS is technicaly not legal. In terms of reverting back, it is easy unless you have screwed the boot rom, in which case you have a new brick
In a nutshell, we've a dozon or so bespoke programs for SmartPhones, all developed on a SPV M3000. These SPV's are getting old now, cracked, chipped, damaged and the O2 Orbit looks perfect (especially as we're just doing GPS stuff, hence why I ask if it's Magellan / Garmin compliant).
There are two types of Pocket PC with phone functionality. Those that use the OMAP chipset, and those that use the Samsung/Intel chipset. The OMAP ones normally have more reliable phone sides (although this is changing with the latest Samsungs and Intels) but far slower for running applications (although, again, this is changing with the latest OMAP chipsets). The Orbit is an OMAP chipset, and although works well as a phone and GPS device, you should check whether any custom software runs at satisfactory speed.
Whilst WM5 is still widespread, naturally it would be an advantage to use the latest technology and to ensure compatibility (have one Orbit running WM5 and the other running WM6), but obviously need some roll-back if things go wrong.
Would really appreciate some feedback before I make a purchase.
Cheers
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Has anyone attempted to port the OS onto the XDA yet?
I know this is still very early days - but I was so happy with by Yorch ROM kitchen WM2003 upgrade for my XDA1 - I was wondering whether we are likely to see the second edition upgrade here at some point.
Is anyone looking into the feasability - I know certain IPAQ devices have already been given the upgrade by the OEM and that certain models are not compatable due to ROM size??
Also - is there the possibility that the windows media centre mobile OS may make it onto the XDA?? I only ask because I have read that the 4gb microdrive from the muvo2 works in the backpack CF slot - byebye mini Ipod.
I know there are legal issues involved - but I am more interested in the logistical factors and possibilities at the moment?
Let me know what you think.
Jayman :shock:
i dont think that any of the 2003 versions were portet from another type of pda
they were as far as i know all based on 2003 versions beta and otherwise from tmobile, o2 and siemens
not sure if one could port a rom from like an ipaq
since it may have a different hardware
maybe O2?
I've read several time on the web that O2 will release the WM2003SE upgrade. Seriously. Don't know how reliable this info is though :?
I have been reading up on the upgrades to blue angel and WM5. For some reason it does not give me a lot of confidence in taking the risk of upgrading the system.
I use the PDA for absolutely everything and dont want it to be a paper weight once im done with the upgrading.
Anyone else have this fear? Did you take the plunge to install it? Did everything work as normal?
Currently TOMTOM 5.1 is the most important software that I use on it. Although, the phone is equally important.
Oh by the way, anyone want tomtom 5.1, let me know, ill hook you up.
Hi
The WM2003->WM2005 and WM2005->WM2003 migration of 100% safe if you follow instructions carefully.
The current best WM2005 for BlueAgel is TuMa 1.3
It's excellent work, but still buggy (and much slower than WM2003).
I flashed to WM2005 and back several times (testing newest WM2005 relases).
I learned that some nice features of WM2005 are not worth all the disadvantages. It's getting better, but just not yet.
Have fun.
yeah, the wm5 is slower than a bit but have more features on it, look nicer...if you're satisfy with your old rom, just keep it then
I've used both versions of WM2005 (Himalaya port an Wizard port) and I just find it too slow when compared to WM2003SE. The BT on WM2005 was terrible which is a main reason I keep to 2003.
I think I can settle with the more "boring" look of 2003 for the sake of reliability.
I know i talked about this earlier, and i`m well aware that there is not a single Wm6 Rom available for this kind of pdas. There is also almost no chances that manufactures would offer any WM6 upgrades to current pdas that do not have phone functionality, since the market is now moving cellar. So, could somebody, please make one? I personally own Dell Axim x50v running Wm5. (I know it requires huge amounts of work). But i don't see you guys having too much trouble making one for the Universal or Hermes. Is that really that much harder to develop roms for the classic pdas?
(i used my nintendo wii to type this.)
So, is there anyone out there who could answer my question???
Not going to happen. People don't hack WM6 to work on devices, they use leaked ROMs from manufacturers. Dell will not release WM6... ever.
i currently have a Wizard, and im happy with it, but i always had my eye on the motorla mpx 300 , because its such a rare phone, problem is its running PPC 2003 2nd edition, and i wish if someone COOKED or perhaps knows a place that offers one? its crucial, before i invest money into buying the phone
Is it still possibly to flash WM5 on MPX300? THanks!
I would be interested in this as well
Yes, I really like the design and function of MPX300 and still using it right now, even there's so many WM5/WM6 devices in the market now. Just one more step if someone can upgrade the MPX300 to run WM5, either software or hardware upgrade would made this phone prefect for me.
If I could find a Wm6 upgrade for this phone, I would start hunting one down today. That would be cool..... Never saw the phone before this post, very cool
wm5 anybody?
reviving this old thread...
i've heard of rumors, but never actually seen a wm5 for the little...
???
I found a post from someone that has gotten wm5 on the mpx300
Yahoo Id: coockie_monster26
AIM: CooCkieXP
Seems like a reputable source....
Find his post here:
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=265391&highlight=mpx300
I'm trying to contact him for tips...
He replied the post in 2006, that's 2 years ago. Not sure if he still using MPX300. However, he is still an active member there. Hope he still have the WM5 files for MPX300.
hello all.
But Device like mpx300 have 32mb Ram so WM6 or later is not recomendet for this device its something like put wm6.1 to MPX200 working but very slow ;(
chears
However.... we just need of wm5.... that's much bettere than 2003se.
Hi
I am totaly new in this line of hardware, i just received an qtek 2020i to try if i like pda.
but this thing is running on win ce2003
can i upgrade this PDA to wm 5 or wm6, and if it's possible how dies it work?
and what do i need?
Hi,
Congratulations for Qtek 2020i. It is one of the best PDAs available, hardware-wise.
However, I am afraid that there is no upgrade to WM 5 or 6 available...
Some say that there never will be...
Head off for the Alpine forum, for more details.
Regards,
P.
pdc4 said:
Hi,
Head off for the Alpine forum, for more details.
Regards,
P.
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what is the alpine forum?
and why is it so good while it cant be used voor wm5 or 6, it's a rather old PDA I geuss and i have to soft reset quit often.
i read in some forums it should be possible to upgrade using w, 5 from another system like an htc.
and another question what kind of software could be used on it?
cause after every reset i've to insert my appointments again
Here, at xda-developers, we have several generic sub-forums (like Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking, where we are currently posting) and other sub-forums, model specific, where the model is discussed in detail.
Alpine is the internal HTC codename of the Qtek 2020i. And, yes, here we have model specific sub-forums for the Alpine/Qtek 2020i. Here is the link to them: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=249
Qtek 2020i, despite the 2003SE that it was shipped with, has very good hardware details (fast 520Mhz CPU, 128 RAM, Wi-Fi, large screen...) that might make it a good solution for someone who is not dependent on the latest operating systems... Even today, is is still competitive, which is rather interesting.
Also, keep in mind that many great software still run in 2003(SE). For instance, Resco Explorer, Tomtom6, SK tools, most of SPB software... etc.
The Alpine could never be upgraded to WM5 because no WM5 OS drivers for the CPU and other details were ever released or found... There are several threads in the Alpine sub forums about this.
If you have issues with yours, like spontaneous (soft) resets there are several possible causes, like depleted (back-up) battery, conflicting software, etc. Use a good back-up software, like SPB backup, and read a lot in the Alpine forums.
Regards,
P.