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Sorry if this has been asked before, but I had a quick scan of the forums and didn't find the same question.
Basically, I'm thinking of buying an O2 XDA IIs, but I'm planning to use it more for the PDA functions than the phone functions. I've also heard that it's phone reception is poor(ish) so I was wondering if anyone knows if the XDA IIs runs without a sim card in it.
Thanks!
It does indeed
Fantastic!
Gotta dig deep now for the £199!
Thanks wilesd
What a concept, buy a phone to use as a PDA, Gee I just wish I could use me phone which is a PDA as a phone with out the Swiesche sidh crak grusnh and I dont even have a BT headset!
Well I figured that rather than buying an HP iPAQ with Wi-Fi that would cost anywhere between £300-400, I could extend my O2 contract and get an XDA, but use it only as a PDA. I would have to continue using my current mobile phone, but since it works well, I don't have any problem with that.
XTscazz said:
Fantastic!
Gotta dig deep now for the £199!
Thanks wilesd
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If your gonna extend your contract with O2 then tell 'em you'll leave unless they can do something decent on the price. I got my XDA IIs off them for £99 by doing just that
Really? I was considering using the 'leave O2' card, but I've heard that it doesn't always work, something about them reaching their quota for the week or something.
Anyway, thanks for the advice, going to try phone them up tomorrow and try for the £99 price tag!
Think it depends who you get on the phone and like you say their "quota".
I genuinely got my XDAIIs for free by threatening to leave! only a £25 a month contract as well
I told them Orange had offered me an MPV2000 for £130 (fib) and they offfered to match it, I then said I would speak to Orange and let O2 know what they said.
Left it ten minutes, rang O2 back and said Orange were gong to do it for free, couldn't believe it when O2 said they would still match it!!
Turned up 2 days later.
Think I'm the only person in the world who likes O2 customer services!
Wow. Thats one sweet deal! Well, I'm going to try and get a good deal off them tomorrow. The MPV2000 isn't on offer at Orange anymore so I think I'll try quoting the P910i or something...
Thanks for the advice! Should be a fun call
Heres to hoping for a free XDA IIs!
loads of places are offering SPV M2000 free on orange - but you pay with a higher cost contract.
The cheapest Ive seen is £40 per month.
The new Talk 600 premium or something contract costs £55 per month, but only lasts 9 months. You can usually go down to £15 after 6 months.
try fones4free.com or mobileshop.com for free M2000's
-Anthony
Damn, it didn't work! Probably didn't help having the world's most bored man at the other end of the line. Despite saying I could get a better deal at Orange, they didn't budge on the XDA IIs price tag of £199...I think the fact that i'm on a £19 a month contract didn't help, but maybe I need to get a chirpy, upbeat person at 02 customer services to get anywhere
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Damn, it didn't work! Probably didn't help having the world's most bored man at the other end of the line. Despite saying I could get a better deal at Orange, they didn't budge on the XDA IIs price tag of £199...I think the fact that i'm on a £19 a month contract didn't help, but maybe I need to get a chirpy, upbeat person at 02 customer services to get anywhere
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How long have you been with them? I've been with O2 for about 6 years now so I guess I qualify as a long term customer. I'm also on a £25 contract.
2 years last month, i guess long term customer status has a 3+ year term requirement!
I was on a £25 a month contract, but after finishing uni, I found I used it a lot less...changed to £19pm, saved a bunch of cash, but it might be stopping me getting a XDA IIs on the cheap! doh.
i was on the phone to 02 today and was surprised by what the customer services agent told me. 02 are not charging for gprs.
i originally rang up to change my tariff as was worried about the amount of data i was downloading and getting a huge data bill. he said that i was not going to be charged for any data even though my allowance is only 100kb and i would be informed when i would be charged. seems very odd but im not complaining
i believe that someone works for 02 who uses this site just wondering he/she could confirm this
BTW im on the 02 200 tariff
sorry that this is not a BA thread but was just eager to ask
Yeh, I haven't been billed for my ridiculous GPRS usage. Good job too
Thing is, if we use it like its free, then one month they decide its not free we're buggered.
Also, I'm told if they hae been logging all your GPRS usage they're entitled to bill you for it in one massive bill whenever they choose.
something similar happened to my friend she didn't get charged for any voice calls for 3 months then 5 months later she got a massive bill. something to do with o2 computer system. so i wouldn't put it passed them.
i don't mined paying for gprs but £2.35 per meg is a ridiculous price and they give you a free entitlement of 100Kb whats all that about?????
just hoping we here from the guy who works for o2 to see if he can give us anymore details.
Try using a PayAsYouGo sim.
One day a while back all internet access got blocked. I cant use MSN anymore, or sync any of my email like I used to.
No word from O2 Why, and every single person in O2 has a different story as to why.
I wouldnt mind paying if I could actualy use it!
Im going to have to change from O2 to another company because they dont seem to offer working GPRS on PayG at all, no matter what the cost.
Orange do a good 3g bundle price, and when the new Universal comes out ill enjoy that! (contract though)
Be Carefull!!!
Be Carefull, guys!
I heard something similar and went a little crazy on GPRS, by listening to streaming internet radio one day. I phoned up to check it all, and was informed I wasn't gonna be charged.
I now have a bill for £165 (all GPRS 'Data Services')
...My phone is currently blocked, due to my inability to pay the bill.
Arf arf!!
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robboy said:
i believe that someone works for 02 who uses this site just wondering he/she could confirm this
BTW im on the 02 200 tariff
sorry that this is not a BA thread but was just eager to ask
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your correct, we do sometimes do free gprs, tho seems its most of the time these days, if u want, ill find out when it ends, but i can confirm that its free, for now.
most of the posts on here ive made are from my xda 2s and i use the gprs way too much.
i you could find out when it ends it would be great.
but its going to be a shock when it does stop. maybe 02 could sort out a better data plan. because 2.35 per mb is far to high.
i think it is important not to take the piss with downloading because if everyone starts o2 will soon change there mined
there are data tarrifs that turn £2.50 per mb to £1 per mb,
just like the text message bolt ons.........
not sure if you get it on certain tarrifs tho, ill find out prices and stuff on monday when i go back to work........... 8)
thanks joey would appreciate that, also is this through the "wap.o2.co.uk" APN?
i haven't been charged using mobile.o2.co.uk
i haven't been charged using mobile.o2.co.uk
free gprs is the only thing keeping me with O2, when it finally connects properly. :?
so why have I been charged over £150?
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well thats a strange one i assume your on o2 in the uk. what tariff are you on?
Yeah, I'm in the UK, and on O2 250.
Grr.
The o2 GPRS tariffs are not easy to find online, but if you look in the business section, there are a few options
I pay £14.50 + VAT = £17.04 per month for 36Mb free allowance and thereafter its £0.85/Mb + VAT = £1. Unused allowance rolls over for 3 months
I only use GPRS for tomtom traffic, live train timetables, light web surfing and the odd email - I do not sync with my mailbox, but use a web based email.
My useage is well below 36Mb/month
Bennage said:
so why have I been charged over £150?
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i would have them look into that, i got one a few years ago, only had a nokia 3650, and it would be imposible to download the amount of data in the time i downloaded it, apparently i had a program that connected to gprs and constantly downloading stuff...... i wasnt happy when gprs cost me 200 quid, so i didnt pay, i called them, queried it, and even they told me it wasnt right!!
give them a call mate.... 8)
Gprs mixed messages from o2
I have called frequently about it and get this answer often: "GPRS is free for light web surfing and emails", then I ask how that is, and they say that there is a 100kb limit, which, in fact means it is not free, it appears that there is some confusion over there. I have to say I am sure that I have used more then 100KB and never been billed, we'll see how long this lasts?
100 kb is nothing thats about 5 email transfers or 5 mins on the web. i think it might be that it is free to a certain limit say 50mb however im sure o2 don’t want a situation like one2one had when they said free text messages for everyone it brought the system down and nobody could send a message
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im sure o2 don’t want a situation like one2one had when they said free text messages for everyone it brought the system down and nobody could send a message
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why do you think o2 have not announced it officially ? they wont tell you its free, u use it as u normally would and dont get charged.
Spoke to a so-called "senior" person at O2 Data Services.
The BB Connect is now being tested on the XDA IIs and is expected to launch by August.
However there are no plans to launch the BB Connect on the XDA IIi due to disastrous testing.
Just thought I'd put a lil post here to help anyone who wants to upgrade with o2.
As my exec screen broke the other day and I am due an upgrade with o2 online, I decided to get the Artemis.
As I was on the online 25, 12 month contract, they offered me initially £99.99 for the phone. I asked to speak to their "specialist" department to barter for the phone
After some pointing out of facts (I like o2 and wouldnt like to have to change, I spent >£500 on phone bills last year, I would expect the phone to be free, other phone companies are offering similar phones for a lot less) I managed to work something out: £9.99 for the phone and aggree to switch to the 18 month contract with 150 minutes and 750 texts (£25/mo). The CoPilot software was confirmed to be supplied with the Orbit.
In the end, I am happy. Although I am spending an extra £150 with o2 for the 6 months, you could say I haven't got anywhere, but I like o2, and I like the Orbit!
Will post a review when it arrives (apparently before midweek)!
So I've been had then!!! Did exactly the same as you but I ended up with:
£99 for the phone
NO SAT NAV KIT (still in arguements with o2 as thought this was included!)
£15/month 18 month contract with 250 minutes - 150 texts
O2 going abroad: Spain - free for life of contract.
Total: £369 !!!
Hey it's not all that bad for £15/mo but a shame about the sat nav, IMO it completes the phone. They do still advertise it free, with what looks like no restriction on tarrif so go ahead and argue with them.
Good luck, keep us all informed!
BTW: £25 x 18 + £10 = £460
I managed to get for £24.50/pm 400 xross min and 100 texts , and the phone only cost £50 with free co pilot kit. Not bad hey.
t- mobile offer the best deal at the moment in the uk only down side is no wifi
agreed re t-mobile. as a self employed person they let you register for business use which means a dedicated helpline and manager - i have his personal email and he answers in minutes! i'm getting x network 900 mins, 1GB internet useage and international cheaper calls for £37.50 a month (32.50 for the 1st 3). considering i was getting 150 mins (orange/landline only) and 4MB of gprs with orange beforehand for £35, i am well pleased! plus the phone was free
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wombat45 said:
So I've been had then!!! Did exactly the same as you but I ended up with:
£99 for the phone
NO SAT NAV KIT (still in arguements with o2 as thought this was included!)
£15/month 18 month contract with 250 minutes - 150 texts
O2 going abroad: Spain - free for life of contract.
Total: £369 !!!
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Finally got a call back from O2, only took ten calls by myself over 4 days to get someone who can actually make decisions to call me! After explaining to the girl, "NO, I was not trying to get a free bluetooth headset, I was simply expecting to recieve the sat nav kit with my orbit"...
She replied...... "Oh is that all, not a problem, i'll order you one now, be with you in 3-4 days. I thought you were trying to get a free bluetooth headset, but they are £22. Anyway, sorry for the misunderstanding. Many thanks"
I was shocked it was so staight forward after all the hassle, but if the kit actually turns up, I will be happy!! I did get her to confirm over the phone that it was the holder, car plug adapter and memory card and she said yes it was. (Signed into My O2 and there are no new orders showing though???!!!)
Fingers crossed! If it does turn up then i'm well happy with the deal I got.
Received my orbit today!! Its all looking good however like many other people, I have not received my GPS software as is advertised, I will be calling o2 a bit later to see what they will do!
Pjtheman said:
Received my orbit today!! Its all looking good however like many other people, I have not received my GPS software as is advertised, I will be calling o2 a bit later to see what they will do!
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Unfortunately, after much hastle, I still am not able to receive my CoPilot software. Apparently, the free bundle is only available to new customers and to get this with the upgrade is £99.99. I have even argued that I specifically asked whether I would receive the software, but they have no record of me asking this.
What a ripoff.
My choice now is to either pay the £99.99 with a 1 month free line rental offer
or
Return the phone, cancel my contract, get my tenner back, pay £130 for the phone and software on a new contract
or
Go to tomtom and pay £89 for their satnav.
Anyone got an opinion on this?
Pjtheman said:
Unfortunately, after much hastle, I still am not able to receive my CoPilot software. Apparently, the free bundle is only available to new customers and to get this with the upgrade is £99.99. I have even argued that I specifically asked whether I would receive the software, but they have no record of me asking this.
What a ripoff.
My choice now is to either pay the £99.99 with a 1 month free line rental offer
or
Return the phone, cancel my contract, get my tenner back, pay £130 for the phone and software on a new contract
or
Go to tomtom and pay £89 for their satnav.
Anyone got an opinion on this?
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If you don't need the wifi I'd just move to T-Mobile, with the amount your spending on line rental they'd probably give you everything for free. Aswell as that their line rental + data packages are very attractive.
Once my O2 contract is up (Online 100 @ £25pm + 500txts all free for 10mths) in about 6 months time unless O2 come up with some decent data tariffs I will be moving to T-Mobile.
Well I've just managed to get the XDA Orbit with Sat Nav software for free with 500 minutes and 900 texts for £20 per month (12 month contract). Wouldn't stretch to a free bluetooth headset though. This was through retentions and took 4 calls, each time getting a little more offered. Just waiting for it to arrive now.
O2 Data tariff for Orbit
I just upgraded my contract (data only @£9.40 a month), they charged me £99 for the phone but I just carry on paying £9.40....I never use the data only sim because I have a company Orange sim and all my calls are free....
I can't work out how O2 make money from this...The phone on eBay is at least £350 and I have no intention of using the data sim card....12x £9.40 plus £99 = £211 over a year seems to me a far cheaper way to own an Orbit!
Well I must be one lucky Mofo, as I got my Orbit free of charge and am only on a £25 p/m contract for 12 months.
I was originally going to get a P990i for an upgrade price of £49.99. But after getting the phone I found out I could get it for free from my girlfriends Vodaphone contract so I returned my P990i and asked for the Orbit which they gave me for free and refunded my initial £49.99.
Only difference I can add is that I had not done an upgrade since I got an XDA II over two/three years ago so they seem to have given me more due to that fact?
Great phone and is even better as I am using my T-moible chip in it for the 1GB web n walk.
Co-Pilot Pack
My Orbit arrived with no Co-pilot. App only free if ordered on-line. The online system wouldn't work when I ordered so I did it by phone. I phoned up to query it and was given the brush off. I asked to speak to someone senior and I got the co-pilot 2 days later. The web-site is none to clear! But credit to O2: they sorted it.
I have upgraded today. 4 phone calls and this is what I got.
£32.50 per month for 12months.
800mins 1000 txt per month. 5mb data allowance. Orbit + Sat Nav for free.
I use my phone a lot so happy with the deal.
I upgraded yesterday from an Xda Mini S. When I rang O2 customer service to enquire about an upgrade they said £89.99.
I then walked to the O2 shop across the road from where I work & the manager originally said £40, but then he said that if I switched from O2 250 tariff (£35pm, 250 x-net mins, 100 texts) to O2 400+100 (£35pm, 400 x-net mins, 100 texts) I could have the handset for free.
Go figure...
(The Co-pilot software would have been £50 in-store but I didn't need it as I already had TT5 for my Mini S)
It definitely pays to be a bit cheeky & haggle with them!
Got mine out of O2 contract (I am with vodafone), £349 unlocked, my employer paid £100 towards a new phone and I stumped up the rest. Very happy with it, finally we have some convergence in a decent sized mobile unit.
PDA - MOBILE - GPS - EMAIL - MP3
No bad at all...
The offer I got from O2
Phone: 149.99
Tariff: Data 5 9.4pounds/month x12 =112.80
Trade in : -30 pounds
total: 149.99+112.80-30=232.79pounds only
I got a 12 month free contract with coolnewmobile phone and only take the SIM card for my Oribit!!!!!
It is the lowest price you can have Orbit from O2 shop!!!
XDA
I was with O2 previously, myself and the missus contract. Nearing the end of the year, I called asking for the code to take my business elsewhere.
I was given some options on the crappy phones which I rejected as I was currently using and O2 chip in my trusty old SPV C500 and wood not trade into another contract with a phone less then par with the SPV.
I was then given details and contact number for the redemptions team who I called and they said we can give you the phone minus the software of you go on a £50 tariff for 18 months.
I said thank you. I called every alternate days (4 times in total) and got through and they bettered the offer each time. Finally on the last day when I was on the phone, they said we can give you the phone and the software if you pay £100 for each of the lines on a £35/ month contract.
I rejected and requested the code and guess what happens.
In the end this is what happened
I got 2 XDA Orbits, 2 CoPilot software packages and the following contract. For £25 per month on a 12 Month contract (yes a 12 month contract) and get 500 minutes anytime any network and 500 text messages and the phones and software were ABSOLUTELY FREE and did not have to pay a dime at all
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Unfortunately, after much hastle, I still am not able to receive my CoPilot software. Apparently, the free bundle is only available to new customers and to get this with the upgrade is £99.99. I have even argued that I specifically asked whether I would receive the software, but they have no record of me asking this.
What a ripoff.
My choice now is to either pay the £99.99 with a 1 month free line rental offer
or
Return the phone, cancel my contract, get my tenner back, pay £130 for the phone and software on a new contract
or
Go to tomtom and pay £89 for their satnav.
Anyone got an opinion on this?
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Flash the orbit with the HTC ROM - comes complete with TomTom installed, all you got to do then is buy the maps - full western europe for 99 euro (bout£67)
or gimme a shout an i'll send you the TomTom install cab from the htc rom ;-)
Hi,
I'm off to Switzerland shortly on holiday and would really like to take my Desire and use my internet based applications (Endomondo, Picassa etc).
I'm currently with T-Mob who state that data transfer using their SIM cost £7.50 per MB, which I seriously do not want to risk.
Can anyone recommend a cheap (ish) Swiss based SIM card that has a competitive data rate. I've tried Swisscom, Sunrise and Orange, but they are either too expensive (one was 0.10CHF per 20KB!!!) or it doesn't state the cost.
I've noticed there is a Migros shop nearby who sell SIM but they also don't state the data rates.
My fall back plan is to disable data on the phone and let GPS record everything but then only upload when I find a free wifi zone.
Leaving on Sunday so would ideally like to find the answer beforehand.
Really appreciate any help / advice
I can recommend
- Sunrise Prepaid SIM Card
- Sunrise surf
www1.sunrise.ch/Angebot/Sunrise-go-dayflat-pul3bAqFI.obkAAAEkYZFQzDCg-Sunrise-Residential-Site-WFS-de_CH-CHF.html
You will pay 20CHF first and this is directly your prepaid money you can use. For the "Sunrise surf" option you pay 7.50CHF/Month and you have 250MB included.
Best ist if you go to a sunrise shop (Zürich Airport or somewhere else maps.sunrise.ch/shopfinder.php?lang=de&objID=Address&val1=8000&val2=&val3=&val4=) and tell them you want those two things and they will arrange that.
have fun in Switzerland,
Dave
JBristowUK said:
I'm currently with T-Mob who state that data transfer using their SIM cost £7.50 per MB, which I seriously do not want to risk.
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This is incorrect. Since you are on T-Mob UK, you can just get one of their Euro Internet Boosters (see here). According to the FAQ, it is valid in Switzerland.
It's probably more expensive than a local PAYG solution (£10 for 50mb), but it is much better than £7.50 per MB. I'd suggest that you keep mobile internet turned off though unless you actively want to use it to keep the usage down.
Regards
Dave
These are both really useful thanks. I may leave the data off until I can find a sunrise shop. If there isn't one local I'll opt for the T-Mob £10 solution. I've just spoken to them and apparently the phone will prompt me to purchase either of the 3 packages. Makes it quite simple and certainly cheaper than my current charges.
Thank again.
JBristowUK said:
I've just spoken to them and apparently the phone will prompt me to purchase either of the 3 packages.
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I can confirm that it does work. When I went to France a couple of months ago, I was unable to get email etc on the phone until I'd opened up a web browser and "bought" a Euro Booster.
Regards,
Dave