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Recommendation for converged device

Hi,
I'd appreciate your recommendation of a converged device (ie PDA & phone) that does everything AND does not have a camera.
Today I have an Axim X51V, that has a very large VGA screen, WIFI, BT, but is not a phone and does not have GPS.
I'm aware of the HP HW6910 and the FS LOOX T810. Both are quite large, due to the fixed frontal keyboard. Further, they have a very small, low-res screen.
I'd prefer a smaller device (possibly by having a sliding keyboard) while not sacrificing the screen size and resolution..
I also don't mind if the device doesn't have an integrated GPS, as I own a BT GPS.
My usage is as follows:
1. Sync with Outlook at the office.
2. Browse the Web via WIFI (B/G) or BT.
3. Navigation, using various navigation apps.
4. Pick up mails while travelling.
5. View/edit documents, PDFs, Excels, etc (but this is a light usage).
6. RSS feeds, weather, etc, all sorts of utilities.
7. Watch family pictures every now and them.
8. No music, basically no movies or games.
Additional considerations (in addition to the above usage):
1. I'd prefer a Quad-Band/Tri-Band device, with preference to GSM networks (as I live in Europe).
2. Support for GPRS, EDGE at the least.
3. Fast CPU, for the Nav apps.
4. Lots of memory.
5. WIFI (B/G) and BT (2.0 preferred).
6. Standard Mini USB port preferred.
7. Powerful battery.
How does the forthcoming WM OS affect my decision?
I'd appreciate your recommendations.
Thank you,
Daniel

Well the Hermes is a great device but it has a camera.

How about the Cingular 8500? i.e. The non-camera version of the Cingular 8525. I just recently(2 days ago) received my Cingular 8525, and I am EXTREMELY pleased with it.

What is the generic name of the Cingular 8525?
The non-camera thing is imperative, as my workplace won't allow cameras.

wisniak said:
The non-camera thing is imperative, as my workplace won't allow cameras.
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Well, I'm not 100% sure what you mean by a generic name, but essentially it's a Hermes 100 device(minus the camera, of course). I'm also not sure if Cingular is shipping these units yet, or if they even have any in stock. My uneducated guess would be that they release them at the same time as the 8525, but of course, I could be wrong about that. BTW, my 8525 is just fantastic! Learning more and more about it every day!

skype 2.2+WM6[indigo] -> doesnt work

Hi @all
Is there any way to get skype work on WM6 ?? chat works fine,adding contacts and other stuff except calling others....once U try to make a call, it starts to dial and then skype just switches off.....
any ideas??
ThX

bastic said:
Hi @all
Is there any way to get skype work on WM6 ?? chat works fine,adding contacts and other stuff except calling others....once U try to make a call, it starts to dial and then skype just switches off.....
any ideas??
ThX
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if you check the skype download page you will see that version 2.2 is not supported for trinity, it only allows limited functionality= chats only, no calls... try version 2.1

Hi guys.
All these 3 version that I'm uploading work fine on my device.
Try a softreset and also try a softreset for your router/acess point or whatever gets you online(if u use wifi).
That's what I do,because I use wifi.
Let me know if it works and try out the other versions. ;-)
http://rapidshare.com/files/52986378/SKYPE.rar

It didn't work for me on WM5 either. I was lucky to have an older version somewhere.

Hi,
since i found FRING, i never more use skype, msn or any other IM program.
whith FRING, i can use simultaneously MSN (whith calling function), Skype, ICQ and 2 more program.
link to fring: http://www.fring.com/
from fring homepage:
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fring is about bringing freedom to mobile communication
fring ™ was born from a concept of giving people the benefits of the internet combined with the user-culture of mobile telephony. Originating from a vision of freedom, fring gives you simultaneous freedom of speech and freedom of movement. Freedom to use your mobile phone to its greatest potential. Freedom to seek alternative mobile carriers. Freedom to communicate without boundaries. Freedom to enjoy your mobile independence.
fring ™ is focused on one simple target. Greater value for the individual. fring does this by harnessing the power of the internet to enable simple daily communications.
The fring ™ community is growing fast. It’s all about mobile communicators like you and me who are unhappy about being tied to a single provider and being taken advantage of by the all-powerful telcos. fring offers a simple alternative to communication by innovatively leveraging internet and mobile environments to serve your telecommunication needs. Join our community and become a fringster!
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vimafeje said:
Hi,
since i found FRING, i never more use skype, msn or any other IM program.
whith FRING, i can use simultaneously MSN (whith calling function), Skype, ICQ and 2 more program.
link to fring: http://www.fring.com/
from fring homepage:
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fring is about bringing freedom to mobile communication
fring ™ was born from a concept of giving people the benefits of the internet combined with the user-culture of mobile telephony. Originating from a vision of freedom, fring gives you simultaneous freedom of speech and freedom of movement. Freedom to use your mobile phone to its greatest potential. Freedom to seek alternative mobile carriers. Freedom to communicate without boundaries. Freedom to enjoy your mobile independence.
fring ™ is focused on one simple target. Greater value for the individual. fring does this by harnessing the power of the internet to enable simple daily communications.
The fring ™ community is growing fast. It’s all about mobile communicators like you and me who are unhappy about being tied to a single provider and being taken advantage of by the all-powerful telcos. fring offers a simple alternative to communication by innovatively leveraging internet and mobile environments to serve your telecommunication needs. Join our community and become a fringster!
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I didn't know about this!
But after read your post I installed the app and voila!!!
It's really a great app, and I also can use my voipbuster account!!
I'm want to say:
THANK YOU VIMAFEJE for this great tip!!!!

LoL
Thx a lot VIMAFEJE
I have to w8 till i ge home to chk calling via 3G(bad reception at place where i work) tryied it via gprs..it works but lags are too big doh

tonchek said:
It didn't work for me on WM5 either. I was lucky to have an older version somewhere.
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Running LVSW's WM5 -- Skype 2.2 works fine.

i think there is only problem whith WM6...

Last version not working on 3G phones?
isn't it a bit strange this last version of skype not supporting to place calls in phones with good processor power? Tytn and P3600? It's also strange that the supported HTC phones don't have 3G communications?
My instinct tells me that there is some kind of pressure by mobile network providers for skype not being supported by 3G phones, because people are able to place much cheaper calls than trough the UMTS (3G) provider.
Just a guess...
(Actually previous versions work very well with my trinity either trough wi-fi or 3G)

skype 2.1 works fine
but via 3G in tmobile UK its not possible to make a call...lags are just to big....via WiFi works like a charm...

Reliable VoIP on Hermes? Experiences?

Hi,
I would like to use my Hermes as a VoIP device via WiFi. To be more precise, I want to use it seriously, not just to play around. The battery time is neglectible, server-side voip configuration and codes can be adjusted.
So far I have seen Schaps WM6.0 Rom, the Voipwm6.cab's, the voip Drivers .cab and destr0`s cab (I have also tested some overfilled Rom Images with Voip support).
My experience so far has been rather disappointing, laggy connections, no reconnecting after Wlan disconnect, lack of speech codecs. This seems surprising to me, as there are other WM6 based devices, with similiar memory and processor power, being marketed as business-VoIP devices (eg. some iPAQs). So, as far as I understand, it should be possible to enable full VoIP functionality, quality and reliability by chosing the right software.
My question:
Is somebody here using VoIP on a Hermes daily? What setup are you using, which drivers did you install? Are there WM6.1 Voip drivers availible? I do not like this mixing up of different library versions, which seems to be popular with the rom kitchens.

SKYPE MOBILE FIND IT ON THE SKYPE SITE THATS what I always use I have millions of enteries and errands to run and I have to meet political connections in other countries and I know this sounds boring but here I am and I have to use VOIP NO JOKE

since you asked.....
I fooled around with the same issue for several months. While Fring and the newest version of skype for ppc both gave good sound quality, I have given up on the issue because of an unacceptable voice delay (~0.5 ). I once thought the issue was related to my internet provider - my current opinion is that this is due windows mobile issues and inadequate processing power. Calling in to a local voip dial-in access telephone # via my hermes did NOT produce the same voice delay, nor did internet skype calling via a wifi connection from my computer. I also got the voice delay when I tried calling via a 3g/umts cellular connection and when using some Viop software found on this site. Finally, using every phone 'tweak' I could find on the internet also did not improve the voice delay, nor did different 'fast' custom ROMs improve the issue. If you/or anyone else ever solves the problem of voice delay on the hermes, I would love to know how.

I've been testing NCH Express Talk: http://www.nch.com.au/talk/index.html + this little utility that forces sound output to the earpiece: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396829
I haven't done much field testing, but the quality is much better than inbuilt VoIP, works ok over 3G and unlike Fring, the communication between you and your VoIP provider is direct.

Thanks for your replies and sharing your experiences. At least now I do not feel like a complete idiot. The strange thing is that when I tried Voip on Hermes the first times (just with VoIP.cab etc). and connecting directly to a normal provider sound quality was really good and the lag was low. Some hours later it has been bad.
As far as I am concerned, I have also tested agephone (gives you a lot of configuration options) and i will test voipsurfer (uses iax) a bit more as soon as i find some time.
I will not give up now. Among other things I want to look at the network settings of the Hermes (packet size etc.) and test with a lot of free memory.
I am going to keep this thread updated, as soon as I find out more.

Tremere, thanks for the nch hint. The program gave me a warning about my network setup, which may lead to one-way or lagged audio. Hmm...

Voip
Download fring from yr htc install it and insert yr voip account.
It works like charm.

wallabyman said:
Tremere, thanks for the nch hint. The program gave me a warning about my network setup, which may lead to one-way or lagged audio. Hmm...
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I got around the warning by setting up port forwarding on my router. The audio is fine, both directions work, but the lag is still not acceptable.

I bought a Hermes (8525) about 2 weeks ago and have been trying out different voip methods. Here's my bit:
Skype
+Keeps phone from sleeping so you can always be logged in
+Best sound quality from the ways I've tried
+Very cheap rates for US calls and DID
-Very unstable on my device. I constantly have to soft reset when skype runs
-Skype contacts separate from Hermes contacts
-Speakerphone used by default, which causes bad echoing. Torca2 works to route sound to earpiece, but awkward to start/stop. I haven't managed to get audioswitch to work, which would sort things out.
-Must use +1 on calls, and the + is obnoxious to get to
Fring (with skype)
+More stable, and I can use gmail chat!
+Smoother interface (for me) than skype
-Short to medium delay, enough to be a deal-breaker
-Doesn't stop device from sleeping, so calls in don't work
-Fring contacts separate from Hermes contacts
SIP with Home Asterisk/Sisky-Skype Server
+More control over detailed options
+When at home, great call quality with little delay
+WM6 has built in voip support
+Phone automatically logs into wifi networks and connects back to my home server very well, displays status on today screen
+Hermes contacts dial using voip when available
+Easy to build on and add more phones (mobile and landlines) to the system
-Good quality but bad delay (so far) when connecting remotely through the internet
-Tricky to get set up from scratch
-Requires at least one dedicated server, preferably two
-Sisky enterprise software is proprietary ($60, free 30-day trial)
-Voip stops when the device is in standby. There are supposed to be ways around this but at the cost of battery life. Still testing...
I'm going to try the voip with voipbuster or another provider... but that's next weekend. I'm hoping my home asterisk server pans out, but there's a lot of configurations to learn and perfect.
Here's the link for torca2 again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396829
And audioswitch, which would be a gem if it worked on the hermes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469223

Mobile video audio chat with edge or adsl with bt/usb possible!and another things...

hello
first, I use skype on my hermes 200 adsl connection via a USB or EDGE connection in both cases I had not heard the voice of my interloccuteurs (voice cuts) while they are listening
will become of the weakness of my connection or there a reason?
also, I install skype mobile beta lite (for symbian s60 v.2) on a Nokia N72 to communicate with my hermes 200 but I have not the icon of the call, and in the category of aid on I said that "the call will be possible after the upgrade skype when it will be available in your country"
could I have the icon of the call before skype lite mobile beta is available in my country knowing that they have not yet?
else, the audio chat it was possible between two windows mobile user?
Finally, set apart the MIDs (see here) http://www.intel.com/products/mid/devices.htm , are there other mobile devices capable of video chat skype? if not, they are the other software can do without 3G or wifi, personally I know 5: vochat, octro, tivi, imichat (under symbian), and microsoft portrait
and another that I could not operate: tabletmedia, of whether someone else could get it to tell me how?

TP2 6.5 WiFi LAN Stream

Hi all, like many I want music/videos over wifi! Tried lots of searching, and lots of 'tips'.
I have T7373 - Rhod100, 6.5 (SEA) WWE rom (3.5 net), ASUS RT-N56U with USB drive/app, and the rest of LAN is W7. (HOMEGROUP, WORKGROUP, and LAN-USB app all work among other devices.)
WM6.5, MP will play a single song (very long path!) from LAN-USB.
With various versions of NETWORK FOLDER PLUGIN (and Network Browser) I can see the machines (but not the directories) on LAN, and when I try to attach or map I can see that WM can tell if there is a password/username active before telling me it failed. (NB will also see other routers and such.)
Since I cannot see the directories, I am using locations similar to what works in W7 for WORKGROUP - ie \\ASUS\AiDisk_a1 and also trying \\ASUS\Music to get to LAN-USB, and \\Z\C to get to W7 machine.
I think I'm (and many others) missing something very basic here. The WM6.5 tries and just does not map - can anyone help?
THX!